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Scoobz0202 03-19-2009 07:36 PM

Anybody else having a hell of a time with the buffering for the Nova-American game on MMOD, or is it just me?

EDIT: Nm, probably should have refreshed before posting :p

mauchow 03-19-2009 07:39 PM

I just turned on the Nova game... three good defensive sets in a row for Nova. American looks somewhat overmatched, but we'll see.

Lathum 03-19-2009 07:42 PM

AJ Abrahms just went on a sick run

Butter 03-19-2009 07:44 PM

Well, at least Clemson has a good class coming in next year. They are done, they have shown no heart this year in games when they've been behind.

LoneStarGirl 03-19-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1973021)
Raise your hand if you just nervously checked your brackets to see how far you have Villanova going


*raises hand* Elite Eight.... Here is to hoping American chokes

RainMaker 03-19-2009 07:47 PM

They just switched us over to the America-Villanova game. I really hate giving teams home court advantage in the tournament.

mauchow 03-19-2009 07:47 PM

That white guy on the bench for Nova needs to calm down after each bucket.

Lathum 03-19-2009 07:48 PM

With all thats going on no one has mentioned Gonzaga down by 3 at the half

Lathum 03-19-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 1973079)
They just switched us over to the America-Villanova game. I really hate giving teams home court advantage in the tournament.


yeah but it's hard to not given the economy and all. They also want to make it eaiser for people to travel so they don't have empty arenas

LoneStarGirl 03-19-2009 07:51 PM

One of my math classes I teach is doing a project on the bracket. They had to do research on each team and then make an educated decision on which team would win each game by use of statistics. Of course my males filled out their bracket before doing any research, and they all have Memphis losing to Maryland/California in the second round.

Being married to GoldenEagle has converted me to a hardcore Memphis fan, so I have them winning it all in one bracket and losing to Louisville in my other. So today in class I turned on the TV and we watched the games all day. My students were giving me such hell when Memphis was struggling.

Even though I have no money riding on any of these games, I will face massive embarrassment in class next week if my students have a better bracket than me, and even more humiliation if Memphis loses before the Final Four!

Oh and BTW I am 5 for 8 right now so I really am sucking it up

Tigercat 03-19-2009 07:51 PM

Even though I have Nova winning this game(who didn't?) I have UCLA making a nice run in my bracket, so a loss here wouldn't be a bracketbuster. So either way it will be a nice outcome to watch, good game so far.

CU Tiger 03-19-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202 (Post 1972994)
What has the general attitude been towards Oliver Purnell at Clemson? Anybody here familiar with Clemson basketball? I used to watch him when I was younger at Dayton and he loved there. I remember a lot of general sadness when he left.


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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1973019)
I went to Dayton, and my wife went to Clemson. I was sad when he left UD, but felt he would get Clemson back to respectability, and he has done that. If he loses in the NCAA's this year, it will be 2 back-to-back 1st round NCAA exits so there will be a bit of grumbling, but all in all, football is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd at Clemson, so he has a bit more leeway than a coach at a more even-keeled school would have. Just getting Clemson ranked on a regular basis is probably good enough for most at the school. He has a long term contract at Clemson, the fans seem to like him, and he seems to like the fans, so I think he will probably close out his career there.


I think you actually under sell his affinity. Most here are ready to Saint him, he pretty much has the proverbial free pass at this point. Even as the team has struggled down the stretch and spending large parts of each day listening to Clemson sports talk radio I have yet to hear a single call bashin OP...


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Originally Posted by timmynausea (Post 1973068)
It seems like Clemson always peaks a couple of months too early, limps into the tournament and then absolutely implodes once they get there. Michigan is shooting so well, though, it may not have mattered what Clemson did.


I think there is some truth here and explainably so, but it is important to remember that last year wwas the first time in a decade Clemson had been to the NCAA...so to say they always implode is a bit of a stretch. Before last year their last tourney run was a Sweet sixteen appearance with Rick Barnes as the coach.

That said we press 35+ minutes a game, and only have a handful of talented players. We wear ourselves out. That is changing though, as more and more talent is brought in by Purnell the future is bright.

In the history of recruiting rankings, Clemson has never had a 5 star player but have 2 coming in next year. So the talent level is improving and having more capable bodies will allow more rest per game and prevent the late season fatigue.

+++++

Edit this is absolutely horse shit.
If we had known this crap we could have brought CJ Spiller and De'Quan Bowers...had no idea it was a football game.
You toss a player for throwing an elbow when his opponent has two handsful of his jersey and his pulling him down, yet two players of ours get busted open and neither draws a foul.

RainMaker 03-19-2009 07:55 PM

Does that commercial where the guy smacks the guy next to him with a cake knife in the calf bother anyone else? I have to change it when I see it, that noise of it hitting the bone makes me cringe everytime.

RainMaker 03-19-2009 07:56 PM

Gonzaga is just not playing defense at all. Surprised with so many seniors they have come out so lax.

Scoobz0202 03-19-2009 08:00 PM

Um.. My CBS didn't really just go from a four point possible 14 seed upset to a 10 point 7-10 matchup did they?

Scoobz0202 03-19-2009 08:01 PM

Nm. They must have realized their mistake :p

SackAttack 03-19-2009 08:02 PM

I don't think I could ever watch the tournament on TV again - the online feeds don't cut away to different games.

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:04 PM

It's remarkable what Michigan has done this year with two walk on's as our PG's, and two kids no one really recruited (Douglass and Novak) playing significant minutes.

Next year with top 75 PG Darius Morris coming in, plus top 150 shooter Matt Vogrich, who Sporting News named their best pure shooter for 2009 and two 3* bigs, plus apparently Manny and Sims coming back, things are gonna be looking up.

Lathum 03-19-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 1973101)
I don't think I could ever watch the tournament on TV again - the online feeds don't cut away to different games.


I really enjoy the online feed.

Play poker in 2 windows, the game in one and the game on TV.

ADD heaven

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:06 PM

Dola, should Michigan pull this out, they better sure up their defense in the paint. Clemson has missed way too many easy shots down there, and Blake Griffin won't.

But it's only a 9 point game with plenty of time left so anything can happen.

panerd 03-19-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 1973101)
I don't think I could ever watch the tournament on TV again - the online feeds don't cut away to different games.



You sure about that? I have the directv package and I think it does go to close endings in previous years. There just haven't been any all day. Maybe it doesn't anymore but I am not certain of this.

Butter 03-19-2009 08:09 PM

The shots American was pulling out of their ass early just aren't going down any more.

And it doesn't help that that one dick referee is hopping around like a jackrabbit on every turnover call. Incite the crowd much?

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:10 PM

There is why Manny Harris needs to come back. Still very careless with the ball. I like Clemson's chances with not much time left. Michigan is very young and inexperienced and has been stymied at times by the press.

Lathum 03-19-2009 08:15 PM

Clemson is doing a good job of getting turnovers but they need some baskets

RainMaker 03-19-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1973113)
The shots American was pulling out of their ass early just aren't going down any more.

And it doesn't help that that one dick referee is hopping around like a jackrabbit on every turnover call. Incite the crowd much?


Was a nice game for them though and they made it interesting. I had money on Villanova -15 so I wasn't too happy with how Nova played. On a neutral court I bet America hangs on to that lead and pulls off an upset.

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:16 PM

Wow. Novak with a tough luck miss there.

CU Tiger 03-19-2009 08:18 PM

We dont deserve to win this game...but Ill celebrate all the same if we do.

mauchow 03-19-2009 08:18 PM

Michigan giving it away it looks like.

panerd 03-19-2009 08:19 PM

Michigan needs the Heimlich maneuver.

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:20 PM

Big play by Manny Fresh.

adubroff 03-19-2009 08:20 PM

Once he gets that deep, if Harris is gonna shoot, just let him. There's a ton of time left, no reason to give him three. If he scores two there it's a one possesion game.

mauchow 03-19-2009 08:21 PM

Manny Harris with a huge shot only 15 seconds into the shot clock with a 1 pt lead. LOL He's lucky that paid off nicely.

spleen1015 03-19-2009 08:21 PM

A couple of good games tonight. This is what the tourney should be.

Lathum 03-19-2009 08:24 PM

terrible last possesion

RainMaker 03-19-2009 08:24 PM

The Michigan -Clemson has been a close game, I wouldn't call it a good one though. That is some of the worst basketball I've seen in the tournament in years.

Lathum 03-19-2009 08:25 PM

It's weird to hear the Michigan fight song in March

sterlingice 03-19-2009 08:25 PM

I wish one of these games had been in the opening set

SI

JonInMiddleGA 03-19-2009 08:25 PM

clusterf*** of a last possession for Clemson

sterlingice 03-19-2009 08:27 PM

Nova out safely and the Zags starting to pull away a little

Those are two teams I really need in my brackets as they are "backstops" for other teams falling (as I think Duke will lose and I'd like to see UNC lose- Gonzaga is the big "gamble" in my bracket which, frankly, I think of more as a gamble against Lawson's foot as much as for Gonzaga).

SI

panerd 03-19-2009 08:27 PM

Are there really that many good games in the first round or do we just have good memories of a couple of games? I think the #1's, 2's, and 3's almost always win big.

panerd 03-19-2009 08:29 PM

I love American continuing to foul. 15 point cover is possible!!!

mauchow 03-19-2009 08:29 PM

time for Binghampton to pull of the upset!


Errr.....


Big 10 2-1 so far. Illinois and Western Kentucky should be a decent game to watch along with VCU and UCLA.. I could give a rats ass about the other two.

Butter 03-19-2009 08:30 PM

Clemson didn't need a 3 there, and Michigan was overplaying the 3 the entire final minute, so take the 2 and hope for a missed FT with 7 seconds or so left. Bad coaching if that was the plan, for Rivers to take a highly contested 3. Everyone knew he was going to take the shot, and he completely missed it. That'll haunt him forever which is too bad, he was a really good player in his CU career.

mauchow 03-19-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd (Post 1973144)
I love American continuing to foul. 15 point cover is possible!!!


If they run down the floor and miss another three I doubt they foul. be funny if they did.

DeToxRox 03-19-2009 08:32 PM

I cannot believe Michigan won. I have to pinch myself. Prior to this the last time I saw them play in March was when I was 13 so this is all even better for me because of the appreciation I have for it. I think OU will smoke us if we can't hit shots and slow up Griffin but I'm going to enjoy it.

CU Tiger 03-19-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1973148)
Clemson didn't need a 3 there, and Michigan was overplaying the 3 the entire final minute, so take the 2 and hope for a missed FT with 7 seconds or so left. Bad coaching if that was the plan, for Rivers to take a highly contested 3. Everyone knew he was going to take the shot, and he completely missed it. That'll haunt him forever which is too bad, he was a really good player in his CU career.

They were out of time outs....it takes 5 seconds to travel the floor.
If you dont fould in 2 seconds you lose....if they even get the ball in bounds...

yeah a 3 was a must

panerd 03-19-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1 (Post 1973149)
If they run down the floor and miss another three I doubt they foul. be funny if they did.


I think they will foul here. I love it. Never understood why you would give up. Of course I also want a cover!

Butter 03-19-2009 08:32 PM

Akron and American really had shots to win, if they weren't playing FUCKING ROAD GAMES.

Karlifornia 03-19-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1973148)
Clemson didn't need a 3 there, and Michigan was overplaying the 3 the entire final minute, so take the 2 and hope for a missed FT with 7 seconds or so left. Bad coaching if that was the plan, for Rivers to take a highly contested 3. Everyone knew he was going to take the shot, and he completely missed it. That'll haunt him forever which is too bad, he was a really good player in his CU career.


I think that's cutting it juuuust a bit too close. I mean, they couldn't get any shot off until just a few seconds before the buzzer. Plus, with no TO's, that would probably force it to be a Laettner miracle.

RainMaker 03-19-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69 (Post 1973154)
Akron and American really had shots to win, if they weren't playing FUCKING ROAD GAMES.


How about Siena tomorrow? Have a great year, end up in an 8-9 game and then have to play a road game against Ohio State.

The system is a fuckin joke. Just give the teams you want to move on byes for christ sake.


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