Oops, I was confused earlier. I'm actually three hours from EST. Glad I wasn't trying to switch. It's 3-3 now right and have we heard yeah or nay about voting after lynching?

I believe you do have to wait until the night actions are posted, at least that is standard.

u cant vote now.

I know that's what's normal but I thought racer had asked him if we could do it the other way.

ok I cant hang out. im off to bed.

Danny, what made you switch votes?

My previous votes were to illicit comments from DT and Racer. After all of the previous posts and those reactions, I felt it was more likely one person was the wolf than the other.

If DT turns out wolf, nice job because I missed it. Claphamsa joking about being a wolf had me ready to switch but then DT seemed surprised by it.

Sorry for being late. I am the judge for an alternative to the juvenile justice system and our docket was VERY VERY long tonight.

heh, I've been before that comitee before

Today is what it is all about. One person is lying, if not more. But who? the decision is hard, but in the end Daddy T is the one the crowd wants to go after, more because of the conviction of a few people than an overwhelming desire to see him lynched. As you descend he insists upon his innocence. He insists you look at racer. As he bleeds you realize that he was telling the truth. Just as the guilt is about to set in, the bloodied body of DT changes into a wolf. Fortunately someone is ready with an arrow, an arrow which kills DT.

Now in night actions until 9 AM tomorrow. As a note, for me a 10:00 deadline means votes must be in by 9:59:59.

The one I do is just for juveniles. It's a really neat program.

lucky for me I was a juvinile

Considering your ability to lie, Lathum, as we've seen here time and time again I wonder if it did you any good :D.

I bet he is lying about having been part of the program.

not at all, i wasn't the best kid

Umm, I can't access pm's

So Barkeep, I want to scan Claph

That's my official scan for the night phase.

By the way, 9 am was the deadline so hopefully my scan didn't have to be in green. Since the deadline is past, Claph's guess as to when the night kill post will be posted is as good as our's.

whocares about my guess? and who is ours?

I guess I meant to say mine.

ok, so here is what we know..... DT cleared PB (trying to buy hsi vote) so I say PB is good. I know im good. and DT was leading the vote on danny....

So vote axxon

That being said, it doesnt matter if there is a sorcerer.

It's me against you wolf. Just like it started.

Dang. Axxon. I woke up briefly around 5 or 5:30 am and there were like 4 people on the board at the time and I think you were one of them. Did you go to bed?

Good luck team!

I generally don't ever sign out of the board actually but 5 would be 2 my time and I was still poking around.

ha, youve played well for aN00b.

Thanks. It's been a lot of fun actually. I'm so glad I had some time off so I could commit to a game. You don't know how long I've wanted to play one.

yeah, this has been a particulaly fun one... I mean seriolsy I fake revelaed twice! :D

too bad the only chance we win is if the sorcerer decides not to vote!

I don't get that logic.

Oh, you're saying you're not the sorcerer. I guess you're right then. Sorry clap.

I'm off to work here in a little bit. It will be an interesting day for sure. And clap, things still are not clear cut for the sorcerer.

For now I VOTE claphamsa

Any chance you change your vote Danny because I am declaring here and it doesn't matter who's the sorcerer unless it is clap?

See, I'm the wolf. I hold any tie breakers. The only thing that could go wrong is if I selected the sorcerer. I had quiksand odds so to speak. :)

Since clap had to know that if he was the sorcerer he would have pulled the vote off me immediately and we'd still have the tiebreaker. That's why I was able to openly reveal. I win no matter who dies really unless it's me and again, the only way that could happen is if the sorcerer doesn't vote or if it's clap and he can't vote for himself.

Unless I'm horribly miscalculating this day is cut and dry.

sadly you are correct. it is preordained.

I know and I really think PB is the sorcerer, always have so I wanted to let Danny know this in case he was being clever. :)

I have to run for a bit but will be on later. I'm torn based on what happened yesterday.

vote Axxon

So, it looks like Danny was the sorcerer after all.

*cheering from the grave* oh wait...do WW's get graves?

I'm just glad to see someone post in the thread at this point.

+1

No, no grave for you wolfy :mad:

well its kinda doen, and unless he was lying about the tie breakign mechanism there isnt anythign to say :(

Don't talk about my fallen pack member like that villager.

Unvote claphamsa
Vote Axxon

Well now that the wolf is out there, here is what we have. I am a villager. The sorcerer is either Purduebrad or Clap. if its Purduebrad, we lose. If its clap, the villagers will now be able to lynch Axxon because Clap can not vote for himself.

Well, if clap is the sorcerer he played it all wrong.

Oh, I don't think so.

:popcorn:

just thoght i would toss that tout there......

I'm out until deadline.

without changing his vote....

Just to be very clear, the only way I'm not the wolf is if I'm the sorcerer ( if I was the sorcerer then I'd go ahead and vote nightfall though ). As a villager, it'd make no sense to do what I did.

Maybe I'd quickly get a vote out there to get tiebreaker but I'd only have a 1/3 chance of getting the wolf. I'd have to be certain of that vote or I'm horribly misplaying the odds and risk getting myself voted which is what is happening. I'm not that player.

The right move at that point would be to watch things develop to see if anyone outed themselves not to call myself the wolf hoping to confuse the sorcerer and risking confusing the villager.

Reality is that I played the odds. I had a 2/3 chance of winning simply by quick voting. That's all I had to do and it's what I did. Once clap voted on me and convinced me he wasn't the sorcerer I revealed and the only way I could lose is if I misread clap which I still don't believe I did or if the sorcerer actually thought I'd play the lousy 1/3 odds and doom my team.

Right now that's to PB but just in case Danny is being clever like he was yesterday playing jumping bean... :)

yeah, wierd move by PB...

Well, if he misses the deadline then you win clap. Since that could happen and since he left the vote unbalanced then who knows.

It looks like someone, whoever the sorcerer is, is going to throw the game the wrong way.

SORCERER, you do realize you can only win if the wolf wins right?? If you have doubts about me, don't wait around and just ask. I'm not moving my vote and I doubt clap will either.

nein! ich benne lynchit.

Well, deadline is here and no one has changed their vote.

I'll admit this is the absolute worst way to lose a game I can imagine.

Good win villagers. Enjoy it. I imagine you won't get too many where the sorcerer seals it for you. :(

OK, it's past 10. Will the moron, I mean sorcerer, please stand up?

That is awesome that you tried that.

It doesn't matter. There's no logical reason anyone will ever convince me that the sorcerer voted the way he did.

im a big nightfall fan :)

Hmm, am I ready to change out my signature? I'm picturing Axxon right now living this ... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :eek: :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: :confused: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

maybe there was no sorcerer....

WTF??? I'm supposed to be happy with his choice or are you saying he made the right one? I am new to the game but honestly, I can't imagine the sorcerer thinking I wasn't the wolf. I really can't.

im a pretty convincing wolf....

You did what you should have done in my opinion. You just caught a really bad break in that Danny went a-wall and forgot to post.

Axxon, I'm agreeing with your frustration/dismay on this one. You should have been winning this game. Someone dropped the ball.

Ok, I got you. I'm thinking it's PB and I think your evaluation in the other thread is pretty correct. I am about to post that in fact over there.

Danny was here. PB switched his vote to give you the win then told us he was leaving and would miss the deadline.

Was the final vote 2-1?

lol.. what a tragic ending...

I messed up the balance as really 11 would have been the right amount in this game, because of the lack of a bodyguard to ever prevent a kill. I think DT and Axxon, and also Racer, all did a great job with their roles and played the game well.

3-1. Sorcerer was a triple agent.

Or a moron....

Discuss. :D

so you dont think i confused PB? no love for me :(

Yeah, DT was a great partner and I've already given racer his props.

Villagers got lucky too. Racer was about to die on day 2 but we wolves had a communication problem on that one.

Wow. What's up with that!?

I wonder if PurdueBrad got really wrapped into the other game starting today. Because he was being pretty gun-ho in the other thread.

I think it may have been unbalanced largely due to the fact that the hunter got killed and the sorcerer didn't. If that hadn't happened, I think it would have been a fairly balanced game.

I wonder if he didn't realize he was the sorcerer? Here was his original PM

kinda hard to msis that one!

No offense clap but the logic was clear. If you confused him you did it earlier and he didn't try to think it through when new evidence came out.

That's why I say hoopsguy's accessment was spot on.

I think the villagers shouldn't been in a second consecutive "must gain the tiebreaker" after killing the first wolf. The game relied on the tiebreaker more than I'd have liked.

Well the hunter wasn't really that an important a role, to be honest. I mean if I'd survived to the end of the game (which I have had a habit of doing), sure, but not like I could do anything at night.

This post was not meant sarcastically. I thought it was clear, but perhaps he skimmed and didn't realize?

I'm guessing this gave it away:

I really hope PB gets back and drunkenly rants.

it would have been fine if we hadnt known waht the tie breaker was.... i mean i was sure we had no chance...

Maybe but he isn't a new player like the rest of us and that'd be a real reach. Plus, he'd pretty much acted like the sorcerer earlier.

I agree, though that wasn't in the spirit of a simple game. I think this simple set showed that you don't need tons of bells and whistles to have a good game. I mean I think yesterday's seer/counter seer reveal is what WW is all about.

tru tru.... I agree. just bitching :)

Yes, but if you decide to keep the tiebreaker next time please have a bit of thought about time zones. When you changed the rule on the last night so we had to wait until the next day it meant I either had to stay up all night or get up before 6 am.

That got me too, racer pointed this out and PB still missed it.

Racer, I was pretty ticked when you did that at first but I thought it clearly outed me so was a good thing. :)

wow

I am SO ripshit right now I can't even post because i'm just absolutely going to go OFF on PB. honestly...this is fucking the shittiest, most idiotic end to a WW game i've ever seen

Exactly. When WW boils down to its simplest he said/she said, it's lovely.

Hmm. DT isn't pleased.