Coffee Warlord

The more I think about it, the more I'm not buying it. The room was slimy. It was a gathering place. While it didn't tell me if it was black, I'm kind of leaning towards black goo. He was a boss.

If CW was a good guy, my bad, but I'm very doubtful.

Neon isn't off my list either though but for now CW gets my vote.

Out of context: Sweet, the first time anyone has voted to get me 'hung' in any of these games :D

I'm not really pushing to kill him -- I'm pushing to get as much information out there as humanly possible. I'm not entirely convinced that he's 'guilty.' I have yet to cast a vote today, and I think I'm going to end up waiting just about as long as possible to do so. With the numbers the way they are, our votes seem to be much more important...if we vote to kill an innocent person, that's two people we're down for the day, assuming they kill someone tonight. If that happens, we're down to a dangerously thin margin. CW claims he found a weapon, and was protecting Qwikshot...can we hope that someone with protection abilities guesses correctly tonight? We can hope, but we can't count on it. Also, Qwik has a very powerful role to help us out, and is proven to be a good guy...he's a prime target for alien attack/conversion. So we have to make sure we make the most educated guess possible.

Sigh. Whelp, I don't know what else to tell ya'll. I've given every shred of information I have on the matter, and if that ain't good enough, so be it.

In my mind, with the information I have, it's an open and shut case against Neon, so I went for it. If I fucked it up, I'll die tomorrow. (Hell, I might die today). However, I'm certain enough that I'm right that I put my own life on the line.

By the way...how much are the aliens loving it if BOTH Neon and CW are good guys? Sigh. It would be a great time for someone with seer-type powers to stand up and say that one of them is clear or not. Though that would probably just confuse us all more.

I'm not "pushing" for him as well. But if I think that at least one of the two, Neon_Chaos and Coffee Warlord is an alien, and Qwik is voting for Coffee, then that confirms the way I go. I am positive that Qwik was not converted last night, since there were once five ectos and now there are four (Blade bit it)...he's about the only one I trust at this point, and I can only assume that everyone else is mucking up the picture.

Dola -- my first post up there was being composed while Qwik was replying -- I didn't know he had voted for CW yet.

This seems to have turned into a CW vs. Neon showdown, with CW claiming that Blade is not a Cryssalid (thus requiring that Neon is one), Qwik being quite certain that Blade as a baddie the whole way through (but not sure if he was a Cryssalid or not... X-COM vets seem to have indicated that he was).

CW, you claim that the aliens know your role; you've been descriptive enough of what you claim to have seen, do you feel comfortable giving us any more information about what that role is or what your abilities are?

I just want to point out something that came to my attention just now, as I was rereading... that CW says he can scan people (saying he scanned Blade, Peregrine)... and he can guard people (says he guarded Qwikshot last night)? AND that he received some info that the aliens knew who he is through some voices whispered though him (perhaps telepathy?) What? I think he had a major slip up on that one... what kind of role does he have? Superman?

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm doing the right thing by fighting this.

Also, if the aliens know your role, then when did they learn it?

Good points, but I'm still not sold on your innocence. Why bring this up now, instead of earlier?

I believe it when CW says he is a Veteran of the war. Qwik just doesn't have any solid information.

I vote for Neon_Chaos

And why wouldn't you fight it???

I wanted to see if anyone is out there to disprove CW's theory. Apparently noone's been watching over CW anyway. So I guess it's just a matter of he said, I said. Not that openly thumping my chest and proclaiming my innocence would do me any good... it didn't do anyone good the last Werewolf games.

Only major reason I've been cagey about my exact role is, quite simply, I don't want a repeat of last night's insanity. :) Thus, I've been trying to describe my role more "in character" than just flat out "I'm a so and so."

That said, the information I have gathered is entirely incidental. It's stuff that's happened to me during the course of the night, or stuff I've heard/seen during the night. I have no particular ability to scan aliens, mind probe people, etc, etc, etc. This is all stuff that has happened to me while I've been trying to guard people.

I'm sorry, but this seems like BS to me. I haven't had the "special ability" to guard people or whatever, but why would you get this extra information when there are real seers out there who can get this as well? Wouldn't you be more than a guard at that point? What's the point of making a seer role when it's less than what you are?

Here's my decision on the day. I vote Neon_Chaos.

Something that we haven't discussed at all -- what about Blade's last words? "Computer.. do your worst. I'm not afriad to die.. you all are afraid to Live! Live like we were going to!"

This sentence is about all the clue we get as to what Blade was (from the mod). His use of the word we seems to be the clutch part of it to me. If he is talking to us X-Com people, and using the inclusive we, that implies to me that he was at some point an X-Com guy. And personally, I think his actions on day one illustrate that as well. Now, he sounds as if he was happy about the way things had gone -- sounds an awful lot like a converted person would, in my opinion.

Imagine, for a second (independent of Qwik's analysis, I'll get to that later) -- that Blade was indeed converted. That means that the Chryssalid is still out there, and that it probably can and will convert another of us -- which is like a double whammy, not only do we lose a good guy, but they gain a bad guy.

Now, as I showed in the instances that I have described above, I'm fairly certain that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy whether or not CW is telling the truth -- knowing that CW would die instantly tomorrow if Neon was innocent seems to make that strategy of isolating one person a pretty bad idea. This, combined with the chance, however small, that CW is a good guy, lead me to vote for Neon_Chaos.

The only part that doesn't fit in is Qwik's analysis of Blade's room. I would also tend to believe that would indicate that Blade was an original baddie...but again, if that's the case, then I think that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy as well, because CW has no reason to lie unless he's a bad guy, and if he is lying, the only scenario that makes Neon_Chaos a good guy seems to be a very poor tactical move by the aliens.

So to make a long story short, I think Neon's a bad guy either way, and I'm not 100% sold on CW yet, so I'm sticking with Neon.

For better or for worse. Sorry, Neon. Unless it rains, I won't be back in time to change my mind again.

Vote Neon_Chaos

Do we know that there are seer roles out there? I don't think we do...

Well, at least on our side. Seems that the aliens (according to CW, and from what I know of the X-Com world there are plenty of telepathic aliens) have "seers."

I was trying to keep this quiet, but at this point, I think we're making a mistake with Neon.

Last night I was able to cobble together a hand scanner that is a one use device and I used it on Peregrine. While I scanned him I saw that Coffee is an Ecto who killed him. I know this outs me as a prime candidate for a conversion or kill, but I have to go with my gut at this point and since our numbers are so low.

Fuck. The water just got even murkier...

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Vote Coffee Warlord

Sorries

I'm sticking with my Neon Chaos vote. The fact that he voted for himself and then switched felt very contrived to me. And, I feel like Blade's final words sounded more "zombie than master" to me. Since Neon was on Qwik's list, and Qwik is the only other person I trust right now, I'm going with him.

I am waiting to see something from digamma and JeeberD. They have both been under the radar and I would not be surprised if one or both of them are aliens.

if you are sticking with me then CW is your alien target.

Wow.

Combine this info with Qwik's condemnation of CW and I gotta change my vote.

Unvote Neon Chaos

Vote Coffee Warlord

And with this I present Exhibit B.

If I Am Telling The Truth, Am Correct About Neon, and RA is Lying: This is an attempt to save the life of an alien, and get a human lynched. Close vote, worth a shot.

If I Am Telling The Truth, Am WRONG About Neon, and RA is Lying: I'm as good as dead tomorrow. He could just as easily let Neon die tonight, and get me killed tomorrow.

If I Am Lying, and Neon is Human: Why in the holy hell would I get myself killed to off 1 whole person.

If I Am Lying, and Neon is an Alien: Okay, I'll admit this is one brutal tactic. Frankly, I'm not going to waste my time trying to defend this, because I honestly cannot without a lot of smoke and mirrors.

But, that's what I've got there.

Not much of a defense to me...bye bye.

If I am lying, then how did I get Qwik to go in with me?

This sounds a little bit more substantial than the grounds I was using to pick Neon Chaos and Coffee Warlord's powers seem a little too grand for one role. Either way, this will tell us a lot.

Unvote Neon Chaos

Vote Coffee Warlord

Well, I'm going to give humanity the last piece of info about myself. If I die today, this needs to be known. Of course, if everyone thinks I'm full of shit, it really doesn't make a damn bit of difference until the end of the game when you're trying to figure out why the aliens have won. BUT.

I am human. I am a grizzled veteran of the Mars Campaign. I also didn't escape Mars fully unscathed. I bear something of an ectoplasmic taint, compliments of a lot of dead aliens. As such, I show up on the computer's scanners as containing enough ectoplasmic radiation to be counted as an alien.

So yes. I die today, the count will drop. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I guarded myself the first night (yes, I can do that, which is why I came out with all of this in the first place), I guarded Qwikshot the second night. There's my job.

Take it for what you will. I now REALLY have nothing more I can say.

Dola. Okay, I had a little more to say. And for those of you questioning my rather high role, I give to you the above to point out I'm not exactly without one brutal ass flaw.

I'm going to go with a hunch here and vote Neon_Chaos.


I'm out for the next few hours.

I hope we made the right choice.

*sigh* That sounds soooooo good....almost too good to be true. I admit I've been paranoid the entire game, but I think justifiably so. You're making me second guess myself. :mad:

25 minutes to go. Voting will promptly end at 8:00

Since there is such a close vote, be prepared. I am keeping GOOD track of the voting.

If there is a tie.. you will know it right at 8:00.

I've given so many fricking clues and I don't know what else to do. We get played so easy, so I guess we deserve to die.

Oh good lord, I don't know who to trust anymore...

I have alot of knowledge of what is going on. This is an important vote, do not screw this up!

And what is your solid information? I know CW is an alien who was seen near Peregrine's room. What more do you have to offer?

:hides:

Vote Coffee Warlord

Like yesterday, I guess I'm looking for a case to vote for a guy that didn't sit quite right with me. The multiple powers and now the alien taint seems like too much. Will type more after I get the vote in, don't want to miss the deadline.

If we lose the bodyguard, we are screwed. I can't believe how easily we are suckered.

Can i just sneak out of the base? These other people deserve to die.

I assume that's a request for information..

Nope, the computer's got all exits sealed tight. you're actually on recycled air..

Coffee, you are saying we are damned if we do and damned if we don't? If we shoot you and see one less, then it wasn't because you are an alien? Fricking genius mind-fuck before dying ...

Raiders, if those numbers don't go down you are now on the block instead of Neon tomorrow morning.

Neon, if you are not an alien then you are going to be very damn lucky to escape today ... I completely didn't get the vote for yourself strategy and feel like you wasted a lot of our time here today because of this.

A damn shame it's the truth, and we'll prolly lose because most everyone doesn't believe it.

Yeah. Like my head's never been on the block....

I think I remember someone saying they were going to lay low this game...wait, that was me.

I'm dead tonight, so I'm going to spill the beans;

Ecto's - Neon, Raiders, Hoops (converted)

CW is bodyguard. Hopefully I can sneak out of here.

By the way, does everyone in this fricking game have a power besides me? Two nights ago everyone is a grunt and now everyone has inventions, visions, scanning abilities, bodyguards, and other secret info. I thought there were more of us than any of the other groups.

SirFozzie, what do I need to do to get in line for some kind of an edge, or at least an equalizer here?

I'm sorry, but I saw you last night near Peregrine's room and the scanner said you were ecto. 1+1=Goodbye CW

Too bad Fouts said he was the technician type PAGES before you mysteriously brought it up, RA.

How do you know this? Not that there's time to make a difference now...

Details on how you got this info, please?

eh? Please quote me...I'll look as well.

Fouts, fouts, fouts - unless aliens commit suicide you are not dying tonight. And I was trying so hard not to let bias from last game come into play.

Looks like I won't have far to look tomorrow for who to target. Hope we made the right call tonight.

Coffee_Warlord: Neon_Chaos
Neon_Chaos: Coffee Warlord
hoopsguy: Coffee Warlord
Mr. Wedensday: Neon_Chaos
Raiders Army: Coffee Warlord
Swaggs: Coffee Warlord
JeeberD: Coffee Warlord
Qwikshot: Coffee Warlord
kingfc22: Vince
Fouts: Neon_Chaos
Vince: Neon_Chaos
digamma: Neon_Chaos

As the last vote is tabulated, Coffee Warlord glares at Neon_Chaos: "Peregrine was right. We should've just blown up the place when we detected you here."

The sonic cannon pops out of the ceiling and aims, and you hear the audible hiss of it preparing to fire..

and Coffee Warlord MOVES. The blast rips into the steel, even leaving a small gouge in the steel floor. He's a bit staggered by the near miss and the computer is already turning to track him, as he dashes.. at a wall?

He does something to a wall, and a hidden cache opens up, and he grabs some kind of weapon.. and aims it at Neon_Chaos. His shot is not aimed, and goes high and wide, a yellow streak scuffing the far wall. The computer's shot doesn't miss the 2nd time and he's slammed into the wall hard, bleeding red from the ears and nose, as he dies, still glaring at Neon_Chaos.

The computer states. "Target Neutralized, detected unauthorized weapon under Lockdown conditions, recovering" and two hidden bots come out of the wall, clamp the weapon in it's claws, and take it back in the alcove, which refuses to open no matter how much you want it to.

Hall of the Blasted:
Schmidty (Day 1: Group)
Blade6119 (Day 2: Group)
Peregrine (Day 2: Alien Front)
Coffee Warlord (Day 3: Group)

And all hell hath broken loose.

WTF? He had more powers? :eek:

I give up.

Time to re-read - Fouts has laid pretty low so I'm not sure who he is aligned with.

Best guess at aliens (or my best effort to piss people off) - Coffee, Fouts, Neon (?), ???

This ain't good, I guess...

And how the hell am I an alien? I like my women like I like my coffee...hot, strong, and black.

Actually, coffee is now cold, bloody, and decaying. But that's beside the point. :)

I'll be a-reading.

Anyone understand what happened?

CW got a hidden cache of weapons from the wall and shot at Neon Chaos before he got killed?

Night 3 has begun: Actions due by 7 AM EDT

Here's the deal. I am a slave to the aliens who will probably be converted tonight, because you guys went and killed the bodyguard. We cannot win, game over, good night eileen.

After a crazy day.. My shoulder fucking HURTS.

Time for a pain b gone pill and sleep. Any night actions will be resolved before that Day 4 begins.

Man, I'm afraid that (with a little help from Qwik) I inadvertently set the CW train a-rolling.

That makes SO much sense now. Them starting with 4 people seems like WAY too many...I'm keen to take Fouts at his word now, as Raiders Army was a bit...I don't know...weird, I guess.

Not so sure I follow on the hoopsguy, but if RA and Neon turn out to be bad guys, I think we have our blueprint...

Yeah, good luck convincing anyone Vince. I guess I should have put all the cards on the table earlier, but that probably wouldn't have worked either. I wanted to live, but without the bodyguard, I just don't see that happening.

So you know who the aliens are because you're their unwilling slave?

How was I acting weird. I'm still not convinced he wasn't an alien, or their helper or something. It just seemed weird that I would get info that he was near Peregrine's room and was ecto. He admitted himself that he would show up as ecto, but I dismissed that as something really out there, since he was talking about all of the info/powers he had. Now, I'm thinking Fouts is the guy.

Then again, I would suspect me as much as anyone here, especially since I voted for Peregrine last night and then revealed information that Coffee was ecto. If I survive tonight, I'll be surprised.

For now, yes. You might be one tonight though. It's 8 v 3 right now, but after the conversion (which could have been blocked by the bodyguard) it will be 7 v 4.

Swap one for one and its 6 v 3. We kill another alien and its 6 v 2, conversion 5 v 3. One for one and its 4 v 2. Kill another alien 4 v 1, conversion 3 v 2.
Swap one for one and its 2 v 1, kill alien, we win.

That is if we get an alien every time we vote. If not, there is no chance. The odds are stacked way against us now without the bodyguard. Get it wrong once and its over.

But there's no evidence that they can convert every time, is there? Or that every alien is able to convert? If we get the Ethereal then that should end the conversions...

Good point, I didn't think of that. You had him, but you let him go. Neon was it.

I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't targeted the bodyguard. That was our real chance of winning. It feels pretty hopeless now. I really don't want to be made into an alien. After tonight, you cannot trust anything I say. Just know that everything up to now has been the truth.

Why are you so doomsday if you know the three aliens?

Once we get the analysis of Coffee tomorrow, we'll know for certain whether or not Neon Chaos will need lynched. It will suck if Coffee was telling the truth, but at worst we lowered the ecto count and should know a lot more by morning. Plus, we still have some unspoken weapons at our disposal, I'm sure.

OK, so I voted for Blade on night one, then went after Blade all day while after I was converted? Then sat on Neon Chaos for most of today (admittedly looking for reasons to move over to Coffee) - another guy you accuse of being an alien? And then we are going to see a decrease in ecto's tomorrow, but that is because we killed the bodyguard? I'm begging you to judge me by my voting pattern, if not my grunt revelation early in the game.

And you were the dude making up roles in the last werewolf game - fool me once, shame on me. Trust me, there is not going to be a second time with you.

Blade - Chryssalid
Coffee Warlord - Convert (bled red, probably not initial alien)
Fouts - Ethereal?

If we've bagged aliens during Day 2 and Day 3 then we are well on our way to winning this game. The reveal tomorrow will be either very good or pretty bad.

Good post Hoops, but not entirely unexpected. If I were the ethereal, I would be really stupid to try and save some lowly convert. I'm not going to defend myself anymore. Gonna let the humans decide.

Good plan, Fouts. Almost worked for Blade on Day 2, laying low after talking himself to death the first night. Until Qwikshot outed him and the game started to turn in our favor.

Well...I don't know what chance you have of dying, Fouts. If you've already spilled the beans, unless you have other powers that we don't know about, you're completely harmless to them. And if you have other powers that we don't know about, keeping them hidden is kind of fruitless. Perhaps you aren't to be trusted as much?

Heh, I missed everything between Fouts' "Good luck convincing everyone..." and my post while posting that. I need to keep up a little better.

Seriously Fouts.

What power do you have that, in the first two days, allows you to know who all three aliens are and to also know that CW was a guard? If you are really interested in helping us win, you need to quit with the pouty stuff and give us some type of detail.

Came from work, and read what went down.

Jesus. I get off the hook, and STILL don't get off the hook, do I? I don't know what the obsession is with killing me. First Qwikshot, then CW and NOW apparently I was Fouts alien master.

What's the point. I'm going to be a target tonight or tommorow anyway. Either way I'll be dead.

Apparently, everyone has SUPERPOWERS except me! I hate it. :(

dola, that's Came from the ride to work. Which means I'm at the office right now.

Swaggs, I am roleplaying my role. What more can I say? I have emptied my pockets onto the table. Take a look around.

You can say that you chose someone each night to observe or you were handed notes or left voicemail messages. Did you randomly choose the three remaining aliens correctly or were they dropped off at your doorstep? How long have you known that these three were the aliens?

Forgive me for questioning you, but without details, it is fairly hard to believe that you can, without question, identify the bad guys. And, if you are truly afraid that you will be killed tonight, you should leave it all out there.

I am their slave. I used to be involved the communications. I really don't want to die, but I don't see how I won't without CW here.

Fouts, again...why would they kill you? You are absolutely no threat to them. If you are a threat to them, you're doing a pretty good job of implicating yourself to be a target tonight.

Wow. What an afternoon/night. Glad I have tomorrow off because it looks like it will be a crucial day. Gonna have to read this thread a couple of times tomorrow.

Voting in chronological order:


DAY 1

Peregrine - Schmidty
Blade - Digamma
Hoops - Blade
Vince - Swaggs
King - Schmidty (2)
Digamma - Schmidty (3)
Neon - Qwik
Jeeber - Blade (2)
Swaggs - Blade (3)
Mr. W - Scmiidty (4)
Fouts - Schmidty (5)
Qwik - Schmidty (6)

NO VOTES
CW
Schmidty
Raiders


DAY 2

Hoops - Blade
Raiders - King
Hoops - UNVOTE Blade
CW - King (2)
Peregrine - Fouts
Vince - Peregrine
Hoops - Blade
Swaggs - Hoops
Vince - UNVOTE Peregrine
Peregrine - UNVOTEFouts
Peregrine - Swaggs
Vince - Swaggs (2)
Neon - Swaggs (3)
Fouts - Blade (2)
Jeeber - Swaggs (4)
Digamma - Neon
Digamma - UNVOTE Neon
Digamma - Blade (3)
Jeeber - UNVOTE Swaggs (3)
Qwik - Blade (4)
Peregrine - UNVOTE Swaggs (2)
Peregrine - Blade (5)
Vince - UNVOTE Swaggs (1)
Swagggs - UNVOTE hoops
Jeeber - Blade (6)
Raiders - UNVOTE King (1)
Raiders - Blade (7)
Swaggs - Blade (8)
Vince - Peregrine
Raiders - UNVOTE Blade
Raiders - Peregrine (2)
King - Blade (9)

NO VOTES:
Blade
Mr. W


DAY 3

CW - Neon
Neon - Neon (2)
Hoops - Neon (3)
Mr. W - Neon (4)
Hoops - UNVOTE Neon (3)
Mr. W - UNVOTE Neon (2)
Raiders - CW
King - Vince
Mr. W - Neon (3)
Swaggs - Neon
Jeeber - Neon (4)
Neon - UNVOTE Neon (3)
Neon - CW (2)
Quik - CW (3)
Mr. W - UNVOTE Neon (2)
Fouts - Neon (3)
Vince - Neon (4)
Mr. W - Neon (5)
Jeeber - UNVOTE Neon (4)
Jeeber - CW (4)
Swaggs - UNVOTE Neon (3)
Swaggs - CW (5)
Digamma - Neon (4)
Hoops - CW (6)

Well Fouts, you made this one easy.

Vote Fouts

Why would you say that I'm an alien? What is your proof? I'm just not sure about how you say you're a slave and then suddenly you escape our clutches? Since you are trying to make me look like an alien, I'm voting for you. Congratulations.

Oh, BTW, I'm out for most of today with another inspection. I'll check back in later. As always, my vote is subject to change.

The night passes slowly. Some of you toss and turn.. hoping and praying that you had purged yourself of the Chryssalid presence...

And that hope is fatally wounded when in the middle of the night, you hear a scream. A scream of violation, of things better left undescribed.. of a person begging for the release of death, but not being granted it.

In the morning, all 11 of you stumble out of your rooms, looking at each other warily..

And like a fresh kick in the head, your eyes go back to the ectoplasmic counter on the computer screen, which reads: FOUR

Doh. We're now 7-4. We're no better off than we were at the beginning of the game trying to get these guys...and we're down 4 of us. This next vote is going to be important. I'll unvote to see what we can come up with. Fouts is still at the top of my list, however.

Unvote Fouts

The last vote was important too - if we had not gotten one yesterday we would be at five. Lets not lose track of that.

So why haven't the aliens converted every night - where does it benefit them to shoot someone instead of convert someone? Just from a game balance standpoint, there have to be some kind of limits.
1.) They can convert every other night
2.) They can convert only one time and there are two of them - suppose there could be more than two but if there are different types of aliens that doesn't make sense

Neon was in the spotlight the last two days as a suspected Chyssalid. There is still a Chryssalid out there - unless there is something I'm missing on X-Com conversions? - that makes him a huge candidate today.

Fouts called out three of us - Neon, Raiders, and me. This obviously makes me extremely suspicious of him. The way he is presenting his data (or not, to this point) isn't giving me much room to think that he is just reading the tea leaves incorrectly.

I don't have a great feeling for who else might be an alien at this point, so for now my review will be of these two guys.

No new information from me via PMs from SirFozzie tonight - wasn't exactly expecting them to start now. Qwik, Dig, King, Raiders - any of you guys pick up anything new this evening that can help narrow it down between these two or reveals "total proof" of an alien?

Maybe you can tell us since you were converted on the first night.

This one is easy.

Vote hoopsguy.

(Yes, this means Fouts is telling the truth.)

How do you know this?

I was wondering who was going to come out with Fouts today - Dig, mind sharing how you came by this information? Or should everyone just take the blanket statement at face value?

Digamma, you were just about the last guy I thought was an alien :(

The same way I know that you visited a special doctor when you were a child, and the result from that doctor trip was something not quite human. In essence, you hate your own skin. And you've vowed to get back at those who did it to you. That gives me hope you might be a good guy, trapped with alien blood.