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ISiddiqui 10-13-2020 10:24 AM

Holy shit,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...?itid=hp_alert

Governor Northam of Virginia was also discussed as a kidnapping target by militias.

Kodos 10-13-2020 10:34 AM

These people are terrorists and should be treated as such.

stevew 10-13-2020 10:52 AM

Time to bring in the bulldozers and take down their trailers of resistance.

JPhillips 10-13-2020 03:43 PM

The ending graphs in a piece by James Joyner responding to SCOTUS denying cert to Congressional Dems suing over emoluments.

Quote:

The Trump deal with the Old Post Office itself raises all manner of legal issues, none of which have been resolved. For all intents and purposes, then, the President is above the law if there is no judicial remedy that can be reached during his time in office.

The House could very well have impeached Trump for the Emoluments violations, at very least adding additional charges during the last impeachment process. Speaker Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic leadership thought the better of it. Alas, that, too is a moot point in that, unless the opposite party controls the Senate by wide margins, no President is likely going to be removed via that mechanism.

Again, if impeachment is a remedy only on paper and nobody has standing to sue for judicial relief, then the Emoluments Clause and other Constitutional restrictions amount to suggestions rather than the supreme law of the land. That’s decidedly less than ideal.

The Trump presidency has cost us dearly. So much of what we used to believe would check a corrupt president has been exposed as unenforcable blather.

Brian Swartz 10-13-2020 03:53 PM

It's been clear to me for decades that those protections no longer functioned. I think Watergate is the last time it even arguably worked, and even then big cracks were already visible.

JPhillips 10-13-2020 04:18 PM

The DoJ is suing the author of the Melania book for violating an NDA.

Lathum 10-13-2020 04:26 PM

Pelosi is on CNN right now tanking Bidens chances trying to talk to Wolf Blitzer about the rejection of the stimulus package. She is giving the trump campaign so much ammo.

RainMaker 10-13-2020 04:28 PM


RainMaker 10-13-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3306371)
The DoJ is suing the author of the Melania book for violating an NDA.


Why is the DoJ involved in a civil matter?

Flasch186 10-13-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3306375)
Why is the DoJ involved in a civil matter?


Because they're Trump's attorneys now, personally.

MIJB#19 10-13-2020 06:06 PM

"Immune".
Is it ok to call him a moron?

GrantDawg 10-13-2020 06:15 PM

The DOJ is quietly dropping the "Unmasking" investigation with no charges. This is looking like all of the big investigations like this and the Durham report is going to be such big nothing's.

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JPhillips 10-13-2020 06:34 PM

Almost like nothing illegal happened.

RainMaker 10-13-2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3306373)
Pelosi is on CNN right now tanking Bidens chances trying to talk to Wolf Blitzer about the rejection of the stimulus package. She is giving the trump campaign so much ammo.


Especially when one of the reasons she isn't willing to move forward is she wants a tax cut for the rich in it.

Lathum 10-13-2020 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3306406)
Especially when one of the reasons she isn't willing to move forward is she wants a tax cut for the rich in it.


Not sure if you watched, but she completely acted the part of the nasty, unhinged, witch the right paints her to be.

kingfc22 10-13-2020 07:42 PM

Dems should put somebody like Schiff in charge of the House.

STK 10-13-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3306373)
Pelosi is on CNN right now tanking Bidens chances trying to talk to Wolf Blitzer about the rejection of the stimulus package. She is giving the trump campaign so much ammo.


Holy shit, she is awful. The fucking worst.

Thomkal 10-13-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3306411)
Dems should put somebody like Schiff in charge of the House.


Wasn't there some agreement amongst Dems at the start of this term that Pelosi would only serve for this term then step aside for new leadership? I appreciate what she's had to deal with Trump, but I hope she holds true to that agreement

Mota 10-13-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3306212)
The President Of The United States of America



So he'll kiss the guys, he'll kiss the hot women, but if you're an ugly chick, well you're not getting a piece of Donny.

ISiddiqui 10-13-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3306414)
Wasn't there some agreement amongst Dems at the start of this term that Pelosi would only serve for this term then step aside for new leadership? I appreciate what she's had to deal with Trump, but I hope she holds true to that agreement


Until 2022

CrimsonFox 10-14-2020 07:12 AM

An Open Letter to Judge Amy Coney Barrett From Your Notre Dame Colleagues – Teacher-Scholar-Activist

JPhillips 10-14-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3306419)
Until 2022


I don't know how it's enforceable, but I saw yesterday that the deal requires 3/4 of Dems to support her for Speaker in 2021.

spleen1015 10-14-2020 08:04 AM


Because someone would give up the opportunity to be a Supreme Court justice. It's not her fault she was nominated.

JPhillips 10-14-2020 08:20 AM

Saw a poll on Scottish independence and it was at 58%. Solid job by the Tories if they end up breaking up Great Britain.

Is there any chance Wales would leave, too?

ISiddiqui 10-14-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3306449)
Saw a poll on Scottish independence and it was at 58%. Solid job by the Tories if they end up breaking up Great Britain.

Is there any chance Wales would leave, too?


The trick is that the UK has to agree to allow a second referendum. Boris has indicated he has no intention of ever doing so. And Labour would be very unwilling since Scotland tends to be the most liberal country of the UK.

JPhillips 10-14-2020 10:01 AM

At some point, though, that becomes untenable. If independence is supported by 60 or 70 percent, that can't be ignored forever.

bhlloy 10-14-2020 10:16 AM

Wales will never leave - no industry to speak of and the demographics just don’t line up. Scotland at least has oil and fishing to fall back on. The majority of people in Wales live in cities in the south and rely on links with the rest of the UK - not to mention that overall Wales receives far more from the UK government (and formerly the EU - nice job voting for Brexit morons) then it puts in.

It wouldn’t be too unlike Alabama and Mississippi deciding to leave the union after the election. Which might not be completely unthinkable if Biden wins, so hey...

ISiddiqui 10-14-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3306466)
At some point, though, that becomes untenable. If independence is supported by 60 or 70 percent, that can't be ignored forever.


Perhaps, but would require the SNP to make a deal with the Tories most likely.

bhlloy 10-14-2020 11:17 AM

Also it’s worth noting that Labour lost a ton of ground in Scotland in the last election, so the assumption that they wouldn’t be willing to discuss Indyref2 might not be 100% accurate. It’s fair to say that not-Tory is still a good outcome (whether that’s SNP, Lib Dem or themselves) but the idea that Scotland and the north (as well as South Wales ironically) are safe Labour bastions is very much in flux.

ISiddiqui 10-14-2020 11:42 AM

But Labour lost ground to SNP, which is basically pretty far left as well. In England, Wales, and N Ireland, Labour gets tattooed. I know Labour feels that they have a shot of regaining some of their traditional Scotland seats, but if you let them go, it'll be like Tory rule for a few decades.

It'd be akin to California having a Calexit Party. The Democrats would still be loath to let California go.

JPhillips 10-14-2020 12:55 PM

If the Dems really want to play hardball they should threaten to use section 2 of the 14th amendment on states that are supressing the vote.

RainMaker 10-14-2020 02:23 PM

In case there are still people playing dumb on this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...l?itid=hp_mr_1

Ksyrup 10-14-2020 02:32 PM

Can someone explain why Trump - losing in every public poll - would want to schedule a town hall at the same time Biden is holding a town hall? Is he really going to prioritize a potential TV ratings win over the chance to reach more voters if he had a time slot to himself? I take this as a sign he knows he is going to lose and is just looking for more ego stroking before he leaves office.

Brian Swartz 10-14-2020 02:38 PM

You can look at that both ways, can't you? I mean, if people are watching him that means they aren't listening to Biden. Maybe he thinks he can't afford for people to have their undivided attention on the opposition.

albionmoonlight 10-14-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3306505)
Can someone explain why Trump - losing in every public poll - would want to schedule a town hall at the same time Biden is holding a town hall? Is he really going to prioritize a potential TV ratings win over the chance to reach more voters if he had a time slot to himself? I take this as a sign he knows he is going to lose and is just looking for more ego stroking before he leaves office.


I don't think that he "knows" he is going to lose.

But he wants a ratings win over Biden. He's probably convinced himself it is smart strategy. But it's really b/c he wants the TV win.

One of the very consistent themes for Trump has to always prioritize the short term over the long term. That's a good reason why he's losing by 10 points.

cuervo72 10-14-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3306504)
In case there are still people playing dumb on this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...l?itid=hp_mr_1


"We have to keep control -- or else there will be totalitarianism!"

cuervo72 10-14-2020 02:44 PM

He might even get a ratings win. What do you want to watch, a train rolling by, or a train wreck?

Comey 10-14-2020 03:06 PM

He'd likely just get the win because Biden supporters won't tune in to watch him like Trump's supporters would tune into him. They won't tune in to watch Trump, either...but Trump's supporters will watch their messiah so they can yell Hallelujah at their TVs.

JPhillips 10-14-2020 03:42 PM

The more it's about Trump, the worse his chances.

Atocep 10-14-2020 03:52 PM

He's backed himself into a corner that's impossible to get out of. He does best when he's off TV, not tweeting, and not making public appearances. The problem is he's down 10 points and the only way to get out of a hole like that is to reach out to moderate voters and try to swing them his way, but he's only capable of dividing people rather than reaching out to moderates. He can't stand people that aren't already aligned with him.

Kodos 10-14-2020 04:10 PM

I have a deal for Trump. He can win the ratings wars for the town halls, and Biden can win the Presidency. Everyone gets something to be happy about!

JediKooter 10-14-2020 04:15 PM

I think he is trying to muddy the waters. If he wins the ratings and then loses the election, he can say the election must have been rigged against him since he won the tv ratings.

BYU 14 10-14-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3306530)
I think he is trying to muddy the waters. If he wins the ratings and then loses the election, he can say the election must have been rigged against him since he won the tv ratings.


Which makes total sense in his mind and can easily be pushed to rile his base up. What a fucking disaster this guy has been for America.

albionmoonlight 10-14-2020 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3306530)
I think he is trying to muddy the waters. If he wins the ratings and then loses the election, he can say the election must have been rigged against him since he won the tv ratings.


I don't even think he's thought it through that much.

He just wants to win the ratings war.

Sweed 10-14-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3306509)
He might even get a ratings win. What do you want to watch, a train rolling by, or a train wreck?


Yeah, I don't want to boost Trump's ratings but would be curious to see the shit show live. I may just wait for youtube clips ;)

Atocep 10-14-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3306534)
I don't even think he's thought it through that much.

He just wants to win the ratings war.


Agree

This is the equivalent of Fauci getting to throw out a first pitch and Trump announcing he's throwing out a fiedt pitch for the Yankees. He can't let someone else get the spotlight.

Ksyrup 10-14-2020 04:55 PM

Well. Here it is:

@thedailybeast
EXCLUSIVE: According to multiple sources familiar with the president's thinking, Trump has told close associates that he wishes to counter-program the Biden town hall and score higher TV viewership numbers, and then use such a contrast to humiliate Biden


I mean, if he gets a ratings win, it's because his voters are tuning in. I'm not watching either because I knew who I was voting for months ago. That's not a humiliation for Biden, it's more a sign that Trump has a 30% cult and most other voters are not still undecided.

JediKooter 10-14-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3306532)
Which makes total sense in his mind and can easily be pushed to rile his base up. What a fucking disaster this guy has been for America.


Exactly what I'm thinking as well. He's been a disaster his whole life, it's just now we are all paying for it. At least before he was pretty much contained in his properties.


Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
I don't even think he's thought it through that much.

He just wants to win the ratings war.


I totally agree with you that he wants to win the ratings war. Donny's not smart, but, his people know what they are doing and know how to manipulate him which in turn manipulates his base. Strictly my opinion of course, but, given the past behavior of his, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. I mean, the republican controlled senate is about to rubber stamp a judge that has clearly only been picked because she will do what she is told, not because she qualified. If it's not a landslide for Biden, man are we in for one hell of a rollercoaster of a ride before the first week of November is even over.

kingfc22 10-14-2020 07:11 PM

What’s the over/under on Burisma mentions by Trump tonight?

Lathum 10-14-2020 07:29 PM

They have no October surprise so they just decided to invent one


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