Most recent poll of Alaska (Sep 20-23) had Trump only up by 1. The only Dem to ever win Alaska was LBJ.

How does anyone get to this place in their thinking?

Yes, I was treated much the same way when I used to walk around town without any pants on. “Stand back!” they’d say. “You can’t come in!” https://t.co/z0meWkG0oT

— Charles Ghoul-ba (@charles_gaba) October 6, 2020

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That should be criminal if it isn't already.

25% chance to win is just flipping a coin 2 times and getting heads twice. That's it. Every one of us has done that before.

But, but “pro-life”...

Dola


“But her emails” is apparently the newest strategy to throw at the wall to see if it sticks.

He just tweeted that Congress should pass airline and small business relief funding and he will sign it.

So stimulus talks are . . . back on? Still off?

At least the tweets are so stupid that we know it's him and not an aide faking it.

And he just said he'd sign a standalone $1,200 stimulus check bill. All of these things were in the covid relief bill that he tanked. Please make it stop, Biden.

He’s off his rocker even for him.

...and why not another round of "the REAL crime was the way they investigated the crime"

Or is this part of the movie where it finds so vile a host that it mutates and kills us all?

SI

Today is a renminder of how trump and his staff separated families and locked them in cages until some of them died or were raped. It's a reminder because one of the people most in favor of this caught covid today

Isn't weird that there is no report on Chris Christie's condition? The last thing I saw was he did talk to a reporter on Monday. He said Christie sounded raspy, but would not say what his condition was.

I would like to know about all their conditions and the treatment they are taking.

If I'm in early stages, I want 5 doses of that Remdesivir!

It's good that he is back at the table. They should just split the difference and get it done, there is danger to Pelosi/Dems in sticking to their $2.6T (?) to spite the other stuff ... at this stage, something is better than nothing and the Dems can do the rest if/when they sweep.

At this point why should the dems come back to the table other than its the right thing to do. Why give Trump any kind of win three weeks prior to the election when they can just reference his own words when pressed.

Yeah, Trump destroyed all his leverage.

If he and the GOP want to take the Dem deal, then the Dems should do it.

But why should they meet the GOP halfway when Trump took the political hit for a non-deal unto himself?

What kinda sucks is being a tiny voice in all this advocating for the first responders and health care workers who don't have elastic state/local budgets to support them, like the federal government does. IMO that's a worthy target for some emergency relief, and a lot of policymakers (on both sides of the aisle) say so... but phrases like "bailout for failed Democrat states" is so politically powerful, the issue looks like it's just been set aside.

It's possible that there are indeed dopes out there who'd like to divert covid funds to boost up their broke pension plans or whatnot, and most of "us" would gladly accept strings of that sort from the feds. But budgets below the federal level are mostly bad and about to get a ton worse when the federal patch-over kicks in. Sucks to be laying off nurses in your health department during a mass pandemic - but, hey, it's only "Democrat states" that care, I'm reliably informed.

No, no, Quik. It's that the Dems are sticking to their $2.6T (because they are number-obsessed weirdos, I guess?). Not that the Dems are actually advocating for the amount of money necessary to actually help firemen, nurses, and police officers. You need to read more tweets.

(Your point adds a lot of dark humor to the whole "defund the police" argument, too. The stimulus failed because Dems refused to back off their demands to fund local police departments and the GOP refused to back off their demands to not fund local police departments. But somehow Biden has to keep proving that he does not want to defund the police. When TRUMP ACTUALLY IS NOT FUNDING THE POLICE)

I don't know the specifics on this bill, but the previous bills had a bunch of unrelated garbage attached to them which made it easy for either side to refuse to agree on anything, rather than just narrowly focus on the easiest pieces to agree on - because "we" have to use our leverage to get something we otherwise couldn't get on its own. I'm guessing there's some of that going on now. And once again, the Simpsons were right.

100% that is going on, and I think that message was getting across until Trump announced he was taking his ball and going home.

dola- I used to be in the camp that when this presidency was over just let this administration disappear into the wind. I have done a total 180 on that and want every one of them thrown in jail and ruined.

I could be wrong, but I think

(1) Congressional GOP thinks that Biden will win.
(2) They want all COVID relief to come from Biden, so they can use it to start Tea Party 2. And if the delay in relief creates a second great depression they can use in 2022, so much the better.
(3) McConnell spent five minutes convincing Trump that no relief passing was in Trump's best interest and that "that's a great idea you had, sir, to cut off negotiations."
(4) Trump tweeted out that it was all his idea, which wasn't part of McConnell's plan.

I give that a 95% chance of being what happened

SI

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If #4 happened, then McConnell is pretty stupid because he's had 4 years to watch Trump take credit for anything he thinks is a good idea AND say things out loud he should just keep to himself.

I definitely think the problem is with the GOP senate, not the Dem House. There were reports that Pelosi and Mnuchin had an agreement yesterday, but then it all blew up. That would make Trump's tweet quoting Powell saying that there's no danger in doing too much make sense. It would also explain Trump pulling out pieces of the bill and claiming funding is already available.

The Senate isn't even in town until late October, so there's nothing they can do that will impact the election. Gien that, I think the plan is to prepare for a big Dem win and if that doesn't happen, pass something in November.

yeah, was having a similar discussion with a friend this morning after walking kids to school. I think the goal is burn down as much as possible to make it impossible for Biden to rebuild in time for 2022/2024.

Oh, yeah - Mitch has been working on this contingency plan for a couple of months. Once COVID wasn't "going away" and the economy is clearly going to get hammered even more next year, he already started planning on obstruction to set up 2022 for Congress and whatever monster comes out of the swamp for 2024 to take advantage of all Trump broke in the last 4 years.

SI

That said, Mitch seems too smart to not know how this was going to go down, right? Basically, he let Trump do what he's going to do so that he takes the fall rather than Mitch, right? Though I have to think that's some messy calculus right now as you have to know the odds of your Senate majority rises and falls with Trump.

SI

I've read a few articles over the last few days that have talked about Trump losing the groups of people that helped him get elected in 2016, ie women. His support from women is way down compared to 2016. So, lots of signs pointing to him losing.

I'm trying not to let my hopes get too high, but I think he's toast and it's not even going to be close.

Just in my little neck of the woods you've got crazy hardened trump supporters, but by and large, the volume of political support signs are way way down in northern Kentucky.

I live in a very Republican suburb of Indianapolis and I see a lot more Biden/Harris signs than Trump signs.

I just bought a house and I have counted 6 Biden/Harris signs and no Trump signs in the neighborhood. I think Trump supporters in this demographic are afraid to publically show it.

Another thing that has stood out to me is I never see Trump/Pence signs, just Trump signs.

This quote is from the other thread but my reply belongs here.


So what will happen is that we will have 300k dead and Trump will claim he personally saved 100k lives.

He'll still leave on or before inauguration day.

I laughed.

I wonder what happens with Dr. Fauci if Trump loses. Does he immediately go off on him?

I don't really pay attention to the projections any more. We have so many different ones, with a wide range.

Infection control theatre.

And seniors have started to turn on him some too, at least according to some recent state polls.

Given the circus-looking stage around it, the plexiglass looks like those rings that they set on fire before lions jump through them.

Jets invite Stephon Gilmore to team coughing party. In unrelated news, Jets to start Joe Flacco this weekend.

This is sure to bring down Trump! ;)

If the debates had vice presidential candidates jumping through rings of fire I would totally watch the debates.

Ah damn!

To be fair, Joe Flacco could bring down anyone.

I thought I heard there was going to be plexiglass between the moderators and the candidates as well.

I wonder when the GOP will be able to win back the suburbs. They may be lost for a generation. This is something hurting them in the House, as their gerrymandering plans relied on suburbs cancelling out the votes of big cities. This is how we have a Dem in GA-6 and a close race in GA-7.

Lincoln Project does it again!

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...631172608?s=20

Followed by this thread:

You’ve never beaten me at anything. This is our first dance. @realDonaldTrump. Did you like #covita. @ProjectLincoln. @TheRickWilson @stuartpstevens @reedgalen. We are so much better at this than your team of crooks, wife beaters, degenerates,weirdos and losers. You are losing 1 https://t.co/w1E9ZvRaYc

— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) October 7, 2020