The CEO of Intel resigned too.

[oprah]And you resign! And YOU resign! And you...[/oprah]

Trump had an opportunity to lower drug prices and refused. Funny to see him tweeting about it. All talk, no action.

Trump had a good idea on drug costs. He ditched it after meeting with pharma execs. - Chicago Tribune

heh

He's back to re-tweeting Pizzagate conspiracists and white nationalist tonight.

I'd say I'm shocked, but sadly I'm not. Trump is so easy to read it's laughable.

My 3 year old son would take him to the cleaners if a poker game ever broke out.

He also retweeted a picture of a train barreling into a person labeled CNN. At least in that instance somebody convinced him to later delete it.

There's no better way to show you're serious about combating racism than pardoning Sheriff Joe.

Did the same with someone calling him a fascist.

Oh guys, I'm sure Bannon, I mean Baron, just had his phone. Kids these days!

Not to mention unconstitutional

Evidently Trump accidentally retweeted memes, since you know, I accidentally often click in 2 different (but exact) places on my screen all the time. That's going in the excuse box the next time my wife finds an odd website on my phone.

I just realized what an amazing opportunity Trump has provided me. For maybe the only time in my life, there is a greater than lottery odds chance I could get POTUS to mad-tweet at me. Or tweet about me in any context.

I have not yet determined what I could say or do to get him to do it, but it actually feels now like an achievable goal.

Dare to dream, my friend. DARE TO DREAM!

Trump's explanation for his delay in responding to Charlottesville?

"Before I make a statement, I like to know the facts. "

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Omg, that might be the funniest (as in so obviously not true) thing he's ever said. Any hope for him is so lost at this point. He's such a joke. Not the good kind, the kind when you get your money back on a new car because the one you got is a horrible lemon.

Jesus Christ fuck this orange faced ass fuck.

He had one job, one. Not defend literal white supremacists. And he couldn't even last a day.

But I'm sure Paul Ryan will defend him, because tax cuts.

David Duke just thanked the President on twitter for his comments on Charlottesville. Yep, that's where we are....

I think Trump has very few real convictions and beliefs about political issues. I think that on things like taxes, environmental issues, health care, trade, etc., he simply does not care that much. He will say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear.

But there does seem to be one issue that he really cares about--going all the way back to his reactions to the Central Park 5. White power.

Oh, and the question for every member of the GOP at this point needs to be

"Senator X, I am not asking you what you think about President Trump's comments/actions. I am asking you what are you going to do about it."

And this guy might be a U.S. Senator next year.

"It might be a storm tomorrow. I mean, i have not researched this so it might be sunny of course and i don't wanna be caught lying, but i know it's going to be weather out there. And i personally think storms are dangerous, so i recommend you all stay inside."

Wow what a buffoon.

Wonder if we'll see any resignations. All he had to do was side against Nazis and he again blames both sides and the alt-left, whatever that is.

And by that he means he was waiting to see if the 4chan story claiming the guy driving the car was a liberal protester was true.

No one gave him love for his statement yesterday (since it was 36-48 hours late) so he went back to what he believes anyway

Like Father like son.

This rings even more true less than 24 hours later...

Most of this time, I've been giving Trump a bit of the benefit of the doubt and rejected the idea that he was a white supremacist, and believed instead that he was a useful idiot for the movement.

Now I'm not too sure about that anymore.

I really don't think he is a white supremacist. He wants to stick to his base and he doesn't like being told what to do or say.

When it comes to this, you support what you don't condemn.

I agree with this.

Moore currently leading with 41%-this country really has gone to hell if he gets elected.

I agree with the first part of that, but I think he is being told what to do or say about this by his advisers who are white supremacists.

A breath of fresh air, an Obama tweet.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/obam...weet-ever.html

I miss the old days, not this "new normal"

Well there's this:

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias - The New York Times

And all of this:

He's attacked a judge for giving bad rulings because "he's a Mexican"

The Muslim ban

He was fined by the NJCCC for having his managers remove black card dealers at the request of big spenders

He reportedly had all black workers leave the floor of his casinos when he was there during the '80s

Comment by Trump according one of his former Casino managers:


He still thinks the Central Park Five are guilty

This is what he said in response to finding out 2 guys beat the hell out of Hispanic homeless guy because he was Hispanic:

He was the guy who pushed the birther stuff for years. This ain't all on Bannon, Miller, and Gorka.

If your best case scenario is that he's willing to placate racists because they are disliked by his opponents, that isn't saying much.

I don't know, I feel like we're in Jeff Foxworthy territory:

If you create a platform for white supremacists at your rallies...you might be a white supremacist.

If you hire a known white supremacist as your senior advisor...you might be a white supremacist.

If you lie for years about the first black president being from Africa...you might be a white supremacist.

If you take out full page ads accusing African Americans of a crime they didn't commit...you might be white supremacist.

I'm sure this could keep going.

Yeah, he's a racist.

As an Alabama native, I can't say I'm too surprised, because for a lot of people, Christianity trumps everything. That's Roy Moore's forte: defending the Ten Commandments monument as a state Supreme Court judge against the feds; warning of Sharia law on our shores; etc., etc., etc. He's trying to show that he's the strongest Christian of the three candidates running in the GOP primary. You establish that in Alabama, you're set.

I'm still shocked, though, that those same Alabamians - even really strong Christians - flocked to vote for "Two Corinthians" Trump in large numbers. "He was sent by God." "He's God's candidate." People were actually saying that!

Yeah, if you want to say Trump isn't really a racist himself you have to ignore his long history of saying and doing racist things even prior to starting his campaign.

Also:

Newt, people's feelings change. One day everybody loves a statue, then suddenly they just want a new younger statue that doesn't have cancer https://t.co/eXPIxZVlJK

— John Rogers (@jonrog1) August 15, 2017

When the Black Nationalist Movement and the South Carolina Secessionist Party set an infinitely better example for America than most of our politicians and media. #CharlestonStrong

Just listen to the guy. Hear how he "speaks out" against the neo-Nazis involved in the rally. It's somewhat calm and reserved.

Then listen to how he goes after the "alt left". It's with legitimate furor, and his voice rises in anger.

This fuckwad piece of garbage.

But he still left time to plug his winery at the end!

Did anyone else notice he is notably oranger after his vacation? Like not more tan, just more orange.

And the next contestant on "Who wants to be my Communication Director is?:

Hope Hicks bio, age, salary, photos: Trump new communications director - Business Insider

"Everyone didn't leave, I ended it myself!"

HA!

I have the transcript of Trump's next exchange:

TRUMP: Well, the jerk store called. They're running outta you!

CEO: What's the difference? You're their all-time best seller!

TRUMP: Yeah? Well, I had sex with your wife.

In a strange way Trump is managing to be the most transparent President in this country's history.

"Can a FEMALE Trump Communication Director ever be called "hot"?"

Her elbows are too pointy.

I'm the wrong person to answer that here :)

The business CEO's not the only ones to react to Trump's words:

US military leaders condemn racism - CNNPolitics

I just hope his response to this isn't, "Rather than putting pressure on the people of the USA and North Korea, I am ending them both. Thank you all!"

I'm not sure I believe she's only 28.

Also, why did a guy so incapable of taking advice have an advisory counsel anyway?

Ego boost. They all had to sit in the room and listen to him.

Yeah, he got to tell all these CEOs how to run their businesses.

He wanted to be able to some how equate himself with actual successful and very wealthy business people.

Did they ever meet? The one he put together on infrastructure hasn't met yet.

This tweet did not age well.

For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2017

If only he had tweeted "Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. Hail Hydra!!!"

Fixed.

Amazing how many people are more upset about football players sitting during the national anthem than Nazis marching with torches and swastikas

What world are you living in? This is major news everywhere and there is major outrage everywhere. And you act like it has to be an either/or. I hate the anthem protests and their overcoverage and hate the Nazi shit (along with 99% of the country)

Take this board for example... what is it Tarcone and JiMGa that lean Nazi if even that? There were a lot of us irritated with the anthem stuff. The media wants it to be L/R but it's anything but.

I think the statement was in regards to right-wing people. They were very upset about the anthem and are furiously defending white nationalists.

What world are you living on? We're on a left leaning board with 2. You really think the real world is skewing 99%. Hell, I have family this is true of.

I don't like the anthem protests either. But I'm a hell of a lot more lenient on that than I am on Nazis.

Great interview with Bannon.

Bannon Tells Magazine About His White House Feuds Over China - Bloomberg

Definitely agree with him on China. Surprised at his NK comment. Liked his comment on the Nazi's.

I wonder how he differentiates between alt-right, white supremacists and neo-nazi?

If only there'd been some sort of trade deal that would have pushed back against Chinese economic expansion.

Unrelated:

Trump’s Trade Pullout Roils Rural America - POLITICO Magazine

CEO: My wife's in a coma

TRUMP: Oh sorry Newt, i didnt recognize your voice. And ahem.

I usually bathroom boycott the anthem at sporting events unless it's kids or instrumental.

Dola-our anthem is like a pufferfish. In the hands of a skilled chef, it's great. In the hands of a hack it's straight up poisonous to the ears.

I have family who I don't think gave a shit about Kaepernick but any criticism of Trump's response to the white nationalists at Charlottesville has been met with some variation of "but Obama."

It's reflexive. Because a Republican shat himself on the proper response to fascists, they have to reach for a reason why the other side is bad also instead of admitting that Republicans are ever capable of being wrong.

It's amazing how many people didn't realize the strategic reasons for TPP.

Republicans aren't the only party that struggle to admit they're wrong.

I'm okay with removing TPP assuming there would be a Trump replacement that does it "his way" e.g. anything is better than nothing.

However, it doesn't seem there is a Trump replacement and we are doing nothing?

Trump doesn't have a way, he's clueless on trade and he doesn't have the desire or ability to learn anything that can't be stated in a few sentences on Fox & Friends. He didn't know anything about TTP beyond that Fox News said it was bad because Obama wanted it. He had to be told 10 times he couldn't make a trade deal with but Germany. His depth of knowledge on health insurance is him thinking it costs $12 a year because of an ad for life insurance for infants that airs on Fox.

If he was interested in having qualified individuals negotiating trade deals he wouldn't be leaving the State Department understaffed.

It almost sounds like you're saying the emperor has no clothes.

Yes, but Republicans (that I've met, and Mitch McConnell) are more than likely to respond to that admission (or even the admission that they might be wrong) with "see I was right, you were wrong, and now that's my justification for whatever it is you were wrong about." So much of it is a competitive power struggle that any chance for correction and cooperation and conflict resolution becomes impossible. Granted, this is just from my own experience in dealing with that, rather than an overall, national observation. It's why the Democrats are always seen or accused of being weak. They're never allowed to fight the same way. Then if they do, they're called hypocrites, or losers because they should have known better or that the "competition" would use it against them, so they're dumb too. That is true.

Unbelievable. He actually did bring the Middle East together. pic.twitter.com/miP9MyVLsS

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) August 17, 2017

That's why I was surprised at Bannon's comments about China being his primary concern. I would have thought Bannon would have laid out a strategy for Trump even before these recent issues (e.g. when he came on the Trump team).

Well maybe he did and Trump isn't really taking his advice. Regardless, I would like to know how Bannon would approach China, would be interesting.

Trump condemns Barcelona attack | TheHill

I bet his PR team is loving this attack because it takes the spotlight away from Charlottesville.

Woah, not worried he's jumping the gun before getting all the facts? Maybe both sides are to blame. :confused:

Damn foreigners taking more White jobs.

And now he's tweeting about urban legends as a way of stopping terrorism.

Also, when he recounted the story on the campaign trail, it stopped radical muslims for 25 years. Now its 35.

I say we adapt it to those phony anti-gluten people when we go for them.

I knew news that clowns would be fighting Nazis is DC wouldn't be the strangest news today.

I disagree. I see it equally on both sides. I notice it more on Dems, but I recognize my bias. Basically, whether you are GOP or Dem, you see it happen. Everyone is human (believe it or not).

Yeah, that's what turns a lot of people off politics, constant point scoring and failure to admit when things are wrong, bad, etc - using diversionary tactics in general. It's universal, not just to GOP/Dems, but across the world.

I've always felt that if the opposition had a great idea, I would respect a government that took it on baord, gave the opposition credit and pushed it through...

While I'm no Teresa May fan, she voiced an idea of asking our opposition parties into groupthink sessions. In a naiive, idealistic light, this seems good for the country, get people together of differing perspectives to hopefully work together.

What actually happened means no-one will ever try this again, as the opposition proved that their main priority isn't the good of the country but points scoring: their reaction was to literally laugh at the proposal and took great delight in screaming 'the government has run out of ideas!' (which tbf may have been true!)

If politicians actually cared about the country they wouldn't act the way they do - this also seems to me to be a universal truth. But it ain't gonna change.

I think you just proved his point...

I don't know the situation in the UK, but in general the whole let's come together stuff only works if the different parties agree on the problem. If they don't, it's just a way for one party to frame the debate in a way that's most favorable to them.

For example, here in the US I can see the parties coming together for a bill to strengthen S. Korea. There would be different ideas, but the problem would be recognized by both the GOP and the Dems. However, there is no way for the parties to come together for a universal college bill or a ban on abortion. There's no way to come together, and claiming to want to would be seen by the other party as the cynical framing trick that it is.

He doesn't understand the basics of economic policy. This is a guy who wanted to put giant tariffs on imports and didn't know whether a strong dollar was good for the country or not.

He didn't like TPP because Obama was for it. I doubt he even knows what the agreement was.

It's fucked up too because he's defaming a war hero who did a lot for this country.

The National Review had something to say about it:

Just minutes ago the president of the United States – the man who just yesterday said, “When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts� – fired out a tweet ostensibly in response to the dreadful terror attack in Barcelona, Spain. Here | National Review

I predict the "when I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts" will come back to haunt him numerous times in the next 3.5 years.

Unfortunately I don't think it'll do much to move his core base.

I find the TPP ballet particularly fascinating, from all sides. 6 months before the election there was a national tour/rally against the TPP featuring notable conservative icons like Tom Morello, Anti-Flag and Jello Biafra. Most of the search results from 2016 relating to stopping the TPP are from far-left sources, but after Trump actually pulled out seemingly everyone in the entire world shifted their opinion/narrative.

We had a state senator post on her personal FB page "I hope Trump is assassinated."
She is refusing to step down. But she is not going to survive I dont think.

TPP seemed to be opposed by the far-left (because it gave breaks to companies) and the far-right (Obama supported it). The people that seemed to support it the most were moderates.

The idea behind TPP is good. Let us control trade around the world. There were however things in it that I think needed to be changed so I'm kind of torn. I was hoping we would renegotiate some of the terms instead of just handing a gift to China.