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stevew 10-05-2020 06:44 PM

There’s no way that Biden can debate him on 7 days. Biden would have to wear a Bane mask and sit in a Pope-mobile to be safe.

Ksyrup 10-05-2020 06:46 PM

Umm... First, WTF. Second, the Eagles won the game. Foreshadowing?


Lathum 10-05-2020 06:57 PM

Would love the NFL or one of those teams to sue him.

Lathum 10-05-2020 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3304882)
There’s no way that Biden can debate him on 7 days. Biden would have to wear a Bane mask and sit in a Pope-mobile to be safe.


and the problem is if Biden backs out because of safety concerns that will be chum in the water to Trump

GrantDawg 10-05-2020 07:05 PM

"Maybe I'm immune." He really just said that.

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JediKooter 10-05-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3304870)
I kinda hope he dies now.


Wouldn't break my heart if he did. Nothing of significant value would be lost, that's for sure.

Ksyrup 10-05-2020 07:14 PM

He came back out a few minutes later to re-shoot the staged entrance. I'm guessing his wheezing was too noticeable in the original so they needed extra footage.

albionmoonlight 10-05-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3304892)
Wouldn't break my heart if he did. Nothing of significant value would be lost, that's for sure.


If he dies between now and the election, I am afraid that you then end up with the GOP using that to somehow steal the election by getting their 26 or 27 state delegations to say that the electoral votes shouldn't count.

(Remember, it isn't what's legal. It's what they get away with).

Better he live in a weakened state through the election so that there will be no doubt that Biden wins.

JediKooter 10-05-2020 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3304894)
If he dies between now and the election, I am afraid that you then end up with the GOP using that to somehow steal the election by getting their 26 or 27 state delegations to say that the electoral votes shouldn't count.

(Remember, it isn't what's legal. It's what they get away with).

Better he live in a weakened state through the election so that there will be no doubt that Biden wins.


I can definitely see the GOP pulling some serious shady shit if he did die. I mean they already are with voter suppression and trying to ramrod a supreme court justice through during an election year, but, I agree with you, it would just be ramped up even more if he dies.

Edit: Personally, I want him to lose the election, get arrested, go to trial and found guilty, lose every single penny and asset to his name and spend the rest of his life in jail.

Mota 10-05-2020 08:27 PM

How is it possible that he no longer tests positive for COVID? Doesn't this virus stay in you for weeks? Or is it that just because he says he feels better, it's okay to let him walk around maskless and not isolate?

cuervo72 10-05-2020 08:33 PM

Boris Johnson felt fine too after an initial fever.

NobodyHere 10-05-2020 08:37 PM

Just to make sure nobody misses this...
Trump defeats COVID commemorative coins go on sale at gift shop

tarcone 10-05-2020 08:39 PM

Did you ever watch the movie Idiocray? You should

JediKooter 10-05-2020 08:50 PM

I don't know, those coins are kinda like doing a TD celebration before you cross the goal line like your name is Leon Lett.

tarcone 10-05-2020 09:00 PM

If he dies in 20 days it ill be the Dems fault.


And the dems will stay home because they have a weak candidate and they feel bad. And the rural people will come out in force because they have had only cases in confined areas (nursing homes, boys town, etc.)
Then rogotic Trump will show up. ANd we are F*CKED

JediKooter 10-05-2020 09:03 PM

Let's not give 2020 any more ideas. My anxiety is already at an all time high.

JPhillips 10-05-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3304886)
and the problem is if Biden backs out because of safety concerns that will be chum in the water to Trump


Totally disagree. Biden and Harris should demand adherence to the CDC guidelines and refuse to show if that's not met. Polling shows people want leaders to be cautious and follow science, Trump is a liar, and Trump got COVID because he was reckless. If Trump and Pence want to rave about how COVID is no big deal, let them. They need the debates more than Biden/Harris.

Lathum 10-05-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3304919)
Totally disagree. Biden and Harris should demand adherence to the CDC guidelines and refuse to show if that's not met. Polling shows people want leaders to be cautious and follow science, Trump is a liar, and Trump got COVID because he was reckless. If Trump and Pence want to rave about how COVID is no big deal, let them. They need the debates more than Biden/Harris.


If Biden backs out Trump will be an attack dog all over social media, etc...claiming he had the virus and beat it yet Biden is the one backing out and we can't have a leader who won't confront the virus, blah, blah, blah.

RainMaker 10-05-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3304921)
If Biden backs out Trump will be an attack dog all over social media, etc...claiming he had the virus and beat it yet Biden is the one backing out and we can't have a leader who won't confront the virus, blah, blah, blah.


Who gives a shit? Let Trump do whatever the fuck he wants.

albionmoonlight 10-05-2020 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3304921)
If Biden backs out Trump will be an attack dog all over social media, etc...claiming he had the virus and beat it yet Biden is the one backing out and we can't have a leader who won't confront the virus, blah, blah, blah.


I think Biden can survive that.

He can't survive dying.

Lathum 10-05-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3304922)
Who gives a shit? Let Trump do whatever the fuck he wants.


I never said he should or shouldn't, just what Trumps reaction would be.

JPhillips 10-05-2020 09:44 PM

I think all of the past two days is going to play very poorly for Trump. Only the people that are already going to vote for him find this stuff admirable. I expect we'll continue to see him trailing by double-digits.

Radii 10-05-2020 10:13 PM

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/...092997125?s=21

RainMaker 10-06-2020 01:19 AM

It is over for him. Another month till he gets blown out. Seniors are fleeing him in droves and he has lost ground in recent weeks.

Only thing left will be the whining on Twitter till his fantasy is back to running scams in the private sector.

Poll: Biden bolsters lead over Trump in Michigan after first debate

GrantDawg 10-06-2020 05:39 AM

Cnn poll has a 16 point Biden lead nationally. Beyond all of this circus, is it safe to say that debate performance hurt Trump bad? He really needed something to start narrowing the gap, and every poll is showing a pretty big swing in the wrong direction.

The pollsters are now saying a 54-55 seat Democratic senate is well within reach.

GrantDawg 10-06-2020 05:41 AM


JPhillips 10-06-2020 07:52 AM

And we're back to COVID is not as bad as the flu.

Jas_lov 10-06-2020 07:53 AM

And predictably today he tweeted it's just the flu. He needs to suffer a lot more.

Qwikshot 10-06-2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3304936)
And predictably today he tweeted it's just the flu. He needs to suffer a lot more.


Man, three days in the hospital for the FLU, definitely unfit.

Qwikshot 10-06-2020 07:57 AM

Like I said, he wants their vote for the election, if they die afterwards no biggie to him.

Ksyrup 10-06-2020 08:10 AM

I've been threatening/debating with myself about stripping Facebook down to MySpace status (taking out all the individuals from my feed and focusing on sports/music/fitness, etc.), and I think I'm going to have to take that plunge this weekend. I can't stand the level of stupid from people who I like. Less is more. I don't need to know your every stupid thought. You know the saying about not knowing your idols so you aren't disappointed? Well, that goes for friends, too.

Had one guy post a comment about how the scientists don't know what they are doing in response to the news that the CDC has once again changed its guidance on how Covid spreads - as if they are acting 100% on their own and not at all being influenced/cajoled/instructed to provide guidance against their recommendations. Had another good friend from law school post that he doesn't tweet but likes Twitter because it allows him to see Trump's tweets so he can get the truth in response to the media's distortions about his condition. Seriously. First guy in TN, second in FL.

I give up. I feel like I've been dropped into the part of Bob Newhart in his TV shows.

Ksyrup 10-06-2020 08:13 AM

The bad/good news is that given the current trajectory of increasing cases, once he loses the election, the myth/conspiracy about Covid immediately going away will be debunked. At the cost of tens of thousands of lives, of course. But hey, there's a price to be paid for everything, right?!

Ksyrup 10-06-2020 08:21 AM

The truth is, if the target audience didn't respond favorably to this kind of crap, they wouldn't do it. We are our own worst enemy. Trump is just exploiting it. Jesus.


Kodos 10-06-2020 08:23 AM

I want Trump to take a beating by the virus, but live to see himself lose in a Mondale-like landslide. And then to lose everything in the courts after he is booted from office.

albionmoonlight 10-06-2020 09:40 AM


ISiddiqui 10-06-2020 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3304943)
The truth is, if the target audience didn't respond favorably to this kind of crap, they wouldn't do it. We are our own worst enemy. Trump is just exploiting it. Jesus.



I mean do these people not realize that masks can be folded and put in a pocket?

albionmoonlight 10-06-2020 09:58 AM

It occurs to me that if the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, etc. were to sneak someone into the White House who was shedding a deadly virus (like, as a cook or something), it would be

(1) The plot of a pretty cool political thriller; and
(2) An act of war.

The President is doing something to the executive branch of our government that would be seen as an attack on the country if someone else did it.

whomario 10-06-2020 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3304950)
It occurs to me that if the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, etc. were to sneak someone into the White House who was shedding a deadly virus (like, as a cook or something), it would be

(1) The plot of a pretty cool political thriller; and
(2) An act of war.

The President is doing something to the executive branch of our government that would be seen as an attack on the country if someone else did it.


He is also routinely doing things that in prior times, coming from other leaders, would have been seen as proof that a Regime change was to be 'supported'.

Seriously, 500 years from now you'll have future History students answer multiple choice tests where Trump apears as an option next to plenty of dictators.

Lathum 10-06-2020 10:20 AM

Facebook and Twitter both flagging Trumps horrific statement about the flu from this morning. Facebook took it down all together.

Lathum 10-06-2020 10:23 AM

I read a while back 100 years from now finding a MAGA hat in someones closet would be like finding a swastika today.

albionmoonlight 10-06-2020 10:35 AM

When you are too MAGA for Facebook, then you are really fucking MAGA.

ISiddiqui 10-06-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3304953)
I read a while back 100 years from now finding a MAGA hat in someones closet would be like finding a swastika today.


Seriously... people are going to be like I was going through my late Grandpa's stuff and FUCK there was a MAGA hat in it!

sterlingice 10-06-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3304955)
Seriously... people are going to be like I was going through my late Grandpa's stuff and FUCK there was a MAGA hat in it!


These last few years have made me understand how Germany went down the path it did. I'm not saying we're going to follow the same path - but I feel some echoes.

SI

miami_fan 10-06-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3304953)
I read a while back 100 years from now finding a MAGA hat in someones closet would be like finding a swastika today.


Eh, in some parts of our country, finding a swastika today does not mean the same thing as it did 75 years ago.

JPhillips 10-06-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3304956)
These last few years have made me understand how Germany went down the path it did. I'm not saying we're going to follow the same path - but I feel some echoes.

SI


I absolutely understand.

But, we aren't dealing with the crushing reparations and devastation from WW1. We're at this point while generally peaceful and prosperous.

albionmoonlight 10-06-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3304958)
I absolutely understand.

But, we aren't dealing with the crushing reparations and devastation from WW1. We're at this point while generally peaceful and prosperous.


That's what is impressive (in the scary way) about what the modern MAGA/Q/GOP/Whatever you want to call it has done.

It has taken a group of relatively powerful, safe, and prosperous people and absolutely convinced them that their lives are shit and others are to blame.

It was a toxic message in Germany, but at least the people's lives really were shit.

Here, it's like "Well, people different from you sometimes express opinions, and it isn't quite as cool to shout them down as it was in the 50s" and that's seen as such an affront to everything that it's going to tear the country apart.

Sigh.

Kodos 10-06-2020 11:56 AM

Yep. Our country is in a really sad state right now.

RainMaker 10-06-2020 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3304956)
These last few years have made me understand how Germany went down the path it did. I'm not saying we're going to follow the same path - but I feel some echoes.


The fascism playbook sadly works.

spleen1015 10-06-2020 12:47 PM

A good article if you're worried about Trump stealing the election.

Opinion | 6 Reasons Not to Panic About the Election - POLITICO

JPhillips 10-06-2020 12:51 PM

The Joint Chiefs are in quarantine now.


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