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Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 1823920)
ouch, did he just say the word "islamic" offends terrorists? Maybe I heard it wrong. Im not sure I even understand the point but I wonder what he meant.


I really didn't get that part.

JonInMiddleGA 09-03-2008 09:19 PM

Think the GOP could just, you know, sub Rudy in for McCain for public appearances between now & November?

Walked through the den & right into the middle of his barn burner. Solid gap power to go with some that cleared the fences while I was watching.

Jas_lov 09-03-2008 09:20 PM

He said when you use the word islamic terrorists you offend terrorists. John McCain didn't change his position on the surge to win an election, but didn't he change his position on other issues to appear more Republican?

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1823914)
noun + verb + 9/11 right? rinse and repeat


I really didn't hear many 9/11 references (I was worried he would use them a lot).

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:23 PM

I don't trust Rudi's wife just by looking at her.

Flasch186 09-03-2008 09:23 PM

I thought his speech has been pretty much perfect.

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1823936)
I don't trust Rudi's wife just by looking at her.


Mistress in the mayor's mansion ftfw

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:28 PM

It's not an accident to have say, Cindy McCain next to Bristol Palin to relieve her of baby holding duty. She's been toting that kid around by herself since this whole deal started. Not that it's unexpected in a big family, but..geez.

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:30 PM

I like how they keep showing Bristol's fiancee.

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:30 PM

Guess Rudy talked too long, so they jettisoned Lingle and just let the star have the show.

sabotai 09-03-2008 09:31 PM

Well at least "thank you" to Rudy go going too long for them to show the 15 minute educational video of Podunk, Alaska and its former mayor.

Flasch186 09-03-2008 09:31 PM

Well it's gonna be hard for her to follow Rudy and get the climax of the night but she certainly can coast in now, great lead in by Rudy.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:32 PM

Guiliani's speech was surprisingly negative. I think he had a lead pipe behind the podium, just in case he needed to ramp it up a notch.

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:33 PM

Are they gonna keep trotting the John S. McCain talk, so they can start calling Barack Hussein?

JPhillips 09-03-2008 09:33 PM

Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:34 PM

And her accent is gonna win her some fans in Ordinarylandia.

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1823967)
Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?


Seems to me like she's turning it up a notch.

TazFTW 09-03-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1823956)
Guess Rudy talked too long, so they jettisoned Lingle and just let the star have the show.


Lingle went before Rudy.

Flasch186 09-03-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1823967)
Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?


no.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:36 PM

Based on Palin's kids' names, if we aquire any new states during a McCain term, I hope she doesn't get to name them.

sabotai 09-03-2008 09:39 PM

Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?

EDIT: Googled it. Snow mobiles. They call them "snow machines" in Alaska?

Jas_lov 09-03-2008 09:39 PM

Especially the special needs kid. Vote for her if you have a special needs kid because she has one too. When is she going to shutup about her family?

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW (Post 1823973)
Lingle went before Rudy.


Oh gotcha.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:40 PM

I didn't watch Biden's speech - did he do all this "Here I am, this is my background/family" crap?

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1823983)
Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?


Alaskans called snowmobiles snow machines.

It's really funny the first time you hear it. It's so weird that even people in Wyoming go "what?"

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1823983)
Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?


Snowmobile racer.

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:42 PM

So you guys want to know who she is, with the leftist trying to dig up all the information on her, but then get mad that she goes on to explain it?

Flasch186 09-03-2008 09:42 PM

she winged it on an adlib and hit a zinger, nice.

"you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull....Lipstick."

sabotai 09-03-2008 09:43 PM

Was that a party crasher they were taking out?

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:44 PM

Man. Going after Barry.

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 1823993)
she winged it on an adlib and hit a zinger, nice.

"you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull....Lipstick."


That was a pretty good zinger.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:45 PM

Yes, Ms. Palin, it's because you're not part of "Washington Elite" that people don't think you're qualified. Sheesh.

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:45 PM

Say what you want though...she's been preening for a moment like this and man, she's playing right into the hands of her audience. The left-wing nuts are gonna have to play this one with kid gloves and treat her like she's irrelevant or else, the folks that elected W are gonna ignore McCain to elect their female Reagan.

mauchow 09-03-2008 09:45 PM

Where ever he goes and whoever is listening, john mccain is the same man...?

I guess I didn't get that.

sterlingice 09-03-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1823987)
I didn't watch Biden's speech - did he do all this "Here I am, this is my background/family" crap?


Not really - he spent maybe the first sixth or so on himself and then went onto policy stuff. But what else does she have to fill the time? Lame standup, I guess.

SI

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1824002)
Not really - he spent maybe the first sixth or so on himself and then went onto policy stuff. But what else does she have to fill the time? Lame standup, I guess.

SI


But everyone knows Biden.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:48 PM

Did she just say she stuck it to Big Oil? Before or after her husband got all that dough?

SFL Cat 09-03-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1823999)
Yes, Ms. Palin, it's because you're not part of "Washington Elite" that people don't think you're qualified. Sheesh.


Actually, I think that one will probably resonate.

Jas_lov 09-03-2008 09:49 PM

Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.

mauchow 09-03-2008 09:51 PM

Woopsies. They showed the prompt going across the screen on tv.. lol

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:51 PM

Vote Sarah! She's one of us!

Maybe this is just a setup for her '12 run with Bobby Jindal. Barack Obama = Jimmy Carter?

Young Drachma 09-03-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1824011)
Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.


Because they don't even know what community organizers do. To them, it's like neighborhood watch.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:53 PM

Can anyone make out what the crowd is cheering other than "USA"?

sterlingice 09-03-2008 09:54 PM

It's a very effective speech for the goal of playing to the right. The moderates might be a bit more put off, tho. She's gotten off some really nice zingers and played the "I'm a down home mom" thing well but sheneeds to lay off it soon or look like someone who just rolled off the PTA.

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI

sabotai 09-03-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 1824011)
Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.


I wonder if that's a smart choice. I don't know what a "community organizer" does, but they probably have some sway over the community they "organize" and Palin might have offended them a bit with that line.

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 1824016)
Not being a leftist and generally uninterested in the scandals, I just found it kind of creepy when she started to talk about special needs kids, the camera zooms onto her husband and child, and then he stands up with the baby.

She has been very impressive though, very charismatic. It's funny, because she's like the GOP Obama.


I understand that. However, isn't the media in control of the cameras?

At least Flasch and you seem open to being non-bias on the speeches tonight, even though you seem to lean to the left.

MrDNA 09-03-2008 09:56 PM

They gave her some good lines. Although I don't get the idea of "Obama is a good speaker, hence a bad choice."

Galaxy 09-03-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1824019)

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI


This is what needs to be cleared up. If a man sounds tough, he sounds great (like Rudi or Obama). However, if a woman sounds tough, she sounds like a bitch/asshole.

Flasch186 09-03-2008 09:59 PM

I think her speech has been absolutely perfect. They recognize the audience, she's engaged, she self depricating, she's been poignant, been issue-centric, and had zingers and pulled them off. If Obama's speech was perfect for that same stuff, so has this been. She killed it tonight....and she's not done yet.

JPhillips 09-03-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1824019)
It's a very effective speech for the goal of playing to the right. The moderates might be a bit more put off, tho. She's gotten off some really nice zingers and played the "I'm a down home mom" thing well but sheneeds to lay off it soon or look like someone who just rolled off the PTA.

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI


I'm really interested in the numbers on moderates over the next couple of days. No doubt she's giving a barn burner for the base, but is it playing to moderates? I don't claim to know, but it certainly seems that she's more focused on the right than the middle.

Not a bad line on career's to promote change. She's got rhetorical skills.


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