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britrock88 02-27-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3005249)
GoldenEagle: Why duke it to me specifically?

Two things:
1. Can we assume that the notes in the flavor were put by EF or is it possible they were written by scum to be deliberately misleading? I'm leaning towards the former.
2.Is it better for everyone to go to one destination as a group? That makes it harder for individuals to be picked off, and entire groups to be in danger, but has a downside of not narrowing down scum if they're forced to kill in their group.


Not GE, but...

Maybe he was more interested in simply avoiding the lynch than in targeting someone else for it. Thomkal had already come out in your support, and we'd gotten the manifest info we wanted out of you. There could have been AFK considerations in play there.

1. There's always that possibility that baddies can influence the way the mod describes things, but I'm sure that if it's the case, it would be within limits.

2. Trade-offs. Cover more ground? Or limit our vulnerability? Your point about the extra evidence from killing within small groups is well-taken. Semi-relatedly, I'm still interested in having people with weapons go to the riskier exploration areas with the idea of defending the group they're with.

fontisian 02-27-2015 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3005256)
Not GE, but...

Maybe he was more interested in simply avoiding the lynch than in targeting someone else for it. Thomkal had already come out in your support, and we'd gotten the manifest info we wanted out of you. There could have been AFK considerations in play there.

I'm going to wait for GE's reply before discussing this further.

Oh, and I have absolutely no information on the gun.

timmae 02-27-2015 03:41 PM

Thanks font... please, for the love of martians... whomever has the six shooter please pipe up!

timmae 02-27-2015 03:47 PM

EF: If the gun is listed in the "items" on page 1 we must have known about it as a group. Who discovered it? Are there any bullets? Where is it now? I have to assume that if a scavenger found it while out searching it would not be listed for all of us to see. I may be wrong.

The Jackal 02-27-2015 03:49 PM

All of the items are likely handed out randomly, unless an individual/group stumbles upon something on an exploration

The Jackal 02-27-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3002719)

There is a new object in play, a gun.


Here it is. To me that means someone found it, but I guess no one has owned up to it. Which is probably smart considering they'd likely have been targeted for a night kill.

If we find ourselves in a situation where we really need it we could have it given to a specific person that we're all aware of and have that person guarded, or what not.

GoldenEagle 02-27-2015 03:52 PM

fontisian,

I had a hunch and went with it. I really can't put my finger on it. I also missed the fact that you gave details on the passenger manifest, although there is not sort of way to validate that.

I actually had it between you and Raven. I decided on you.

GoldenEagle 02-27-2015 03:53 PM

I am heading out to play poker and won't be able to partake in active discussions tonight.

I did technically vote for fontisian last night, so:

unvote fontisian

saldana 02-27-2015 04:00 PM

I have no idea what about anything that I have said or done is suspicious, but whatever...iI'm not going to be around much longer tonight...will proyally put my vote back where I started yesterday.

GoldenEagle 02-27-2015 04:00 PM

I decided on voting for fox or sharkn20 because I really don't like the back and forth banter they have going. It seems like they are trying to create some unnecessary friction.

vote sharkn20

fontisian 02-27-2015 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 3005265)
fontisian,

I had a hunch and went with it. I really can't put my finger on it. I also missed the fact that you gave details on the passenger manifest, although there is not sort of way to validate that.

I actually had it between you and Raven. I decided on you.

But you knew that Thomkal wasn't going to lynch me. What were you hoping to achieve?

Raven 02-27-2015 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3005270)
But you knew that Thomkal wasn't going to lynch me. What were you hoping to achieve?


He is saying he chose you because he knew Thomkal would keep you alive. He seems to trust you. He duked to saved himself but avoid sacrificing anyone else - nullifying the trial altogether.

fontisian 02-27-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3005276)
He is saying he chose you because he knew Thomkal would keep you alive. He seems to trust you. He duked to saved himself but avoid sacrificing anyone else - nullifying the trial altogether.

That is absolutely not what he said.

Raven 02-27-2015 04:44 PM

He said it was your or me. Everyone knew Thomkal was keeping you alive. Anyone who didn't know that, clearly hasn't been following.

The second part was my interpretation/assumptions of his actions.

fontisian 02-27-2015 04:52 PM

By saying it was you or me, he implied that he was going after people he wanted lynched, because he didn't trust them. The further justification ("I also missed the fact that you gave details on the passenger manifest") supports the idea that he is claiming he thought I was likely scum.

Nowhere is it implied that he was trying to avoid a lynch, or wanted Thomkal to keep me alive. Nor does he ever imply that he trusts me, and his actions imply the opposite.

Your interpretation is both wrong and excessively favorable. Are you his scumbuddy?

Grover 02-27-2015 05:10 PM

I have absolutely no idea who to vote for right now.

DanGarion 02-27-2015 05:12 PM

I'm still trying to analyze all this. Super short on time today do to an open house at our home today.

I'd vote for CF again since the murders have started back up but I'm not sure...

DanGarion 02-27-2015 05:17 PM

vote follow Suicane's group

Can I do that? :)

Raven 02-27-2015 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3005281)
By saying it was you or me, he implied that he was going after people he wanted lynched, because he didn't trust them. The further justification ("I also missed the fact that you gave details on the passenger manifest") supports the idea that he is claiming he thought I was likely scum.

Nowhere is it implied that he was trying to avoid a lynch, or wanted Thomkal to keep me alive. Nor does he ever imply that he trusts me, and his actions imply the opposite.

Your interpretation is both wrong and excessively favorable. Are you his scumbuddy?


I read his posts hours ago. I quickly read it and continued on reading the thread, to catch up. I didn't stop and analyze the post, so my interpretation (at the time of originally reading it) of his "hunch" was that he trusted us both, whereas your interpretation was the opposite. Maybe your interpretation is correct, but...

There were numerous posts and entire conversations devoted to Thomkal saying he would not let you stand trial. Everyone in the game should be aware of that fact, because it was a HUGE point in conversation yesterday. If he missed that fact and all the conversation around it, then he was the one not paying attention. Excuse me for assuming he was following along in the daily major events and acting accordingly. Everyone else in the game knew you would not stand trial. You're being ridiculous if you think otherwise.

My previous post was a knee-jerk quick-reply based on his actions and on my assumption that he knew what was going on in the game. I didn't go back and analyze his single post before trying to make sense of his actions. I just assumed he knew you wouldn't stand trial, because again, EVERYONE else knew that. That's why I thought he chose you.

saldana 02-27-2015 05:32 PM

vote dangarion

I wanted this vote last night and I just do t understand what he is doing...at this point it feels like he is trying to be extravagant in his behavior as a means of deflecting attention from himself

Grover 02-27-2015 05:43 PM

vote saldana

Part of the Engineering team, yes, but I trust timmae.

DanGarion 02-27-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 3005295)
vote dangarion

I wanted this vote last night and I just do t understand what he is doing...at this point it feels like he is trying to be extravagant in his behavior as a means of deflecting attention from himself


What? I shouldn't stay close to the group of people that have been accusing me all along...? Seems to me this is my only option. Work with you to make you realize it's not me you should be worrying about...

Suicane75 02-27-2015 05:47 PM

Vote: Dangarion

There's really no one else I can justify voting for at the moment.

The Jackal 02-27-2015 05:47 PM

vote dangarion

Shoveler 02-27-2015 05:49 PM

Vote: Saldana

The Jackal 02-27-2015 05:50 PM

Hah, didn't mean for that to be a run. I feel like his character would be jaded by not being elected and thus be a solid conversion target, knowing we have no idea if conversion is even in the game.

I also feel like his posts have been more argumentative than helpful.

ntndeacon 02-27-2015 05:52 PM

Vote Dangarion

ntndeacon 02-27-2015 05:54 PM

I have only a slight lean toward Dangarion right now over saldana since those are the two leading candidates.

ntndeacon 02-27-2015 05:54 PM

Go with the heat source crew

Zinto 02-27-2015 05:54 PM

Vote Shark

ntndeacon 02-27-2015 05:55 PM

I figure going with the large group may help that group stay healthy if there is an issue out there.

Zinto 02-27-2015 05:55 PM

Explore Flatlands

Zinto 02-27-2015 05:57 PM

I am not going to jump on the Dan Garion run. I honestly have not read much of todays run. I am just hoping to keep it close for now and see what happens. I will probably be on once more before deadline just so everyone knows.

The Jackal 02-27-2015 05:59 PM

Are we all supposed to explore one of the places? Posting from phone so hard to look back

DanGarion 02-27-2015 06:00 PM

I haven't even voted for someone yet and I'm the big bad...

EagleFan 02-27-2015 06:00 PM

As of Post 2785:

saldana 4 - timmae (2717), britrock88 (2746), Grover (2771), Shoveler (2775)
DanGarion 3 - Suicane75 (2773), The Jackal (2774), ntndeacon (2777)
Sharkn20 3 - CrimsonFox (2698), GoldenEagle (2760), Zinto (2780)
The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (2628)
Shoveler 1 - Autumn (2655)
CrimsonFox 1 - Sharkn20 (2699)

Explore heat source - saldana (2708), CrimsonFox (2711), Suicane (2715), ntndeacon (2779)
Explore flatland - Grover (2713), timmae (2719), Zinto (2782)

Staying at base
britrock88
Autumn - healing britrock88

EagleFan 02-27-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3005316)
Are we all supposed to explore one of the places? Posting from phone so hard to look back


If you want to.

DanGarion 02-27-2015 06:02 PM

unvote follow
Vote explore heat source
Vote Saldana

The Jackal 02-27-2015 06:05 PM

vote stay at base

Raven 02-27-2015 06:06 PM


Vote DanGarion

EagleFan 02-27-2015 06:10 PM

As of Post 2790:

saldana 5 - timmae (2717), britrock88 (2746), Grover (2771), Shoveler (2775), DanGarion (2788)
DanGarion 4 - Suicane75 (2773), The Jackal (2774), ntndeacon (2777), Raven (2790)
Sharkn20 3 - CrimsonFox (2698), GoldenEagle (2760), Zinto (2780)
The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (2628)
Shoveler 1 - Autumn (2655)
CrimsonFox 1 - Sharkn20 (2699)

Explore heat source - saldana (2708), CrimsonFox (2711), Suicane (2715), ntndeacon (2779), DanGarion (2788)
Explore flatland - Grover (2713), timmae (2719), Zinto (2782)

Staying at base
britrock88
Autumn - healing britrock88
The Jackal

saldana 02-27-2015 06:46 PM

Anyone care to actually give a reason for voting for me?

britrock88 02-27-2015 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 3005334)
Anyone care to actually give a reason for voting for me?


Being UTR? Timmae being suspicious of you?

Thomkal 02-27-2015 07:33 PM

I am here now and catching up. Apologies to everyone-was away much longer than expected-please repost any questions/comments for me so I will see them when I get caught up, thanks

Thomkal 02-27-2015 07:34 PM

Besides the all-important dress color of course :) And its black and blue by the way.

Shoveler 02-27-2015 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3005352)
Besides the all-important dress color of course :) And its black and blue by the way.


I didn't have a clue what that was about until my wife came home and showed me.

Thomkal 02-27-2015 07:44 PM

It has dominated the media today-seen it mentioned online all over the place-trended on facebook for a while and two sports programs talked about it. Crazy.

Thomkal 02-27-2015 07:46 PM

vote saldana

EagleFan 02-27-2015 07:48 PM

As of Post 2798:

saldana 6 - timmae (2717), britrock88 (2746), Grover (2771), Shoveler (2775), DanGarion (2788), Thomkal (2798)
DanGarion 4 - Suicane75 (2773), The Jackal (2774), ntndeacon (2777), Raven (2790)
Sharkn20 3 - CrimsonFox (2698), GoldenEagle (2760), Zinto (2780)
The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (2628)
Shoveler 1 - Autumn (2655)
CrimsonFox 1 - Sharkn20 (2699)

Explore heat source - saldana (2708), CrimsonFox (2711), Suicane (2715), ntndeacon (2779), DanGarion (2788)
Explore flatland - Grover (2713), timmae (2719), Zinto (2782)

Staying at base
britrock88
Autumn - healing britrock88
The Jackal

britrock88 02-27-2015 08:10 PM

Saldana hasn't self-saved yet.


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