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QuikSand 08-20-2020 06:18 AM

I got around to listening to the NYT Magazine piece on the state of the intelligence community, especially w.r.t. Russian interference in Us elections and... it’s quite an experience to do so. I’m just grinding my teeth at this point.

bars

Hearing the play by play is just a brutal illustration of the things that arise from such an awful person gaining this kind of station. It’s...I don’t know the right word...heartbreaking? No, more like the patriotic version of that. I’m at a loss. It’s an awful feeling.

It’s also dispiriting to know, with virtual certainty, that the continued reporting of such things wil have no effect on such a substantial share of Americans, at this point. They wouldn’t read a “fake news” source, wouldn’t trust the reporting if they did, and would blame the President's rivals for the smear. It’s testament the Bannon’s fundamentally cynical strategy that you can win in American politics mainly by just conning the stupid, hateful, and gullible...that this isn’t just a fringe, it’s a workable, viable coalition.

I shudder at the direction this could all take us. And I wince every time the opposition party makes decisions that I fear lessen the chance of defeating this awful person through the proper democratic channels. I’m mortified that this election is within spitting distance of being a toss up. Good heavens, America, wake up from this, please.

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 06:32 AM

It's hard for me to understand some decent, otherwise rational people I know who simply see this as "politics as usual" back-and-forth between the parties and downplay, discount or rebut a lot of what Trump has done to fundamentally attack the basis of our democracy, as if they were defending policy decisions of any other president. These are smart people. I just don't get it.

spleen1015 08-20-2020 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3296757)
It's hard for me to understand some decent, otherwise rational people I know who simply see this as "politics as usual" back-and-forth between the parties and downplay, discount or rebut a lot of what Trump has done to fundamentally attack the basis of our democracy, as if they were defending policy decisions of any other president. These are smart people. I just don't get it.


I am in the same boat. This is something I can't comprehend.

QuikSand 08-20-2020 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3296757)
It's hard for me to understand some decent, otherwise rational people I know who simply see this as "politics as usual" back-and-forth between the parties and downplay, discount or rebut a lot of what Trump has done to fundamentally attack the basis of our democracy, as if they were defending policy decisions of any other president. These are smart people. I just don't get it.


+100

Galaril 08-20-2020 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3296761)
+100


Yes me too It just shocks me.

Sweed 08-20-2020 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup (Post 3296757)
It's hard for me to understand some decent, otherwise rational people I know who simply see this as "politics as usual" back-and-forth between the parties and downplay, discount or rebut a lot of what Trump has done to fundamentally attack the basis of our democracy, as if they were defending policy decisions of any other president. These are smart people. I just don't get it.


Exactly and many are people I've known my whole life. To tell the truth I find it depressing to think about :(

JPhillips 08-20-2020 08:00 AM

Trump claims he's just about to drop prescription prices, "50, 60, and even 70 percent."

lol I missed the spelling. He actually tweeted "per cent."

albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3296770)
Trump claims he's just about to drop prescription prices, "50, 60, and even 70 percent."


He's one of the best people at selling things that aren't real.

Drake 08-20-2020 08:30 AM

They're too worried about cannibals, pedophiles, and non-citizens infiltrating the presidency (and now the vice presidency) to be bothered with things like Russian interference.

Right up until a Democrat hosts a state dinner with a formerly-communist Eastern bloc leader, and then they'll be blowing their brains out about treason.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 08:44 AM

Bannon arrested in online fund raising scheme.


Butter 08-20-2020 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3296770)
Trump claims he's just about to drop prescription prices, "50, 60, and even 70 percent."

lol I missed the spelling. He actually tweeted "per cent."


So, like GoodRx?

Lathum 08-20-2020 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3296785)
Bannon arrested in online fund raising scheme.



Can you imagine the dirty he has on Trump if he wants to roll over and make a deal?

ISiddiqui 08-20-2020 09:08 AM

The Build the Wall crowdfunding scheme. Which seemed like a scam the entire time - it's amazing they got so many to buy in.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3296792)
Can you imagine the dirty he has on Trump if he wants to roll over and make a deal?

Trump barely knew Steve Bannon. Maybe Bannon got coffee for him once or something?

JPhillips 08-20-2020 09:15 AM

Might this have been why Barr was trying so hard to control who was the US Attorney for SDNY?

kingfc22 08-20-2020 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3296797)
Trump barely knew Steve Bannon. Maybe Bannon got coffee for him once or something?


Gold.

Lathum 08-20-2020 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3296797)
Trump barely knew Steve Bannon. Maybe Bannon got coffee for him once or something?


lol

JPhillips 08-20-2020 09:20 AM

This is quite a list of names.


Lathum 08-20-2020 09:38 AM

Nothing would make me happier than seeing Curt Schilling do the perp walk

albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 09:50 AM

I'd like to be there for the conversation between Shilling and his lawyers when they explain to him that putting some ketchup on his sock probably won't work to get sympathy in front of the jury.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3296814)
Nothing would make me happier than seeing Sheriff Clarke do the perp walk

Fixed

Kodos 08-20-2020 09:53 AM

I'm ashamed to admit that I ever rooted for a team Curt Schilling was on.

spleen1015 08-20-2020 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3296822)
I'm ashamed to admit that I ever rooted for a team Curt Schilling was on.


You're not the only one.

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 09:59 AM

Bannon was arrested by Postal Service agents.

spleen1015 08-20-2020 10:06 AM

What if I told you the POTUS was going to have them switch the tires on the cars in his motorcade because the company that makes them doesn't like him....

The crazy never ends....

Thomkal 08-20-2020 10:14 AM

Only the best people...

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 10:15 AM

The car his campaign sponsors for NASCAR has Goodyear tires.

Ben E Lou 08-20-2020 10:15 AM

I know someone personally who gave to this nonsense. I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy for anyone who gave their money to be stewarded by the likes of Steve Bannon and Sheriff Clarke.

Lathum 08-20-2020 10:19 AM

Between this and the NRA its a wonder people have any money left to give to the Trump campaign.

JPhillips 08-20-2020 10:22 AM

And the Trump campaign is the biggest groft of them all. Parscale didn't buy all his toys with the money from his past jobs.

kingfc22 08-20-2020 10:24 AM

Looks like one of these clowns bought a boat with the ill gotten money: http://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1296466677870231562

Also, just how good is it that the USPS made this arrest. Lol

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 10:27 AM

I wonder if he was in the boat parade!

JPhillips 08-20-2020 10:29 AM

And the lead grifter took part in a July 4th boat parade for Trump.

albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 10:33 AM

"Clinton Foundation" is trending on Twitter.

Half of the Russian economy is people being paid to post bothsides shit on social media to protect Trump.

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 10:35 AM





JPhillips 08-20-2020 10:38 AM

Don Jr. liked the grift


kingfc22 08-20-2020 11:27 AM

Those are clearly just examples of Democrats hacking the website.

albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 11:56 AM

Bannon was arrested at sea by the Post Office?

2020, you magnificent bastard, you've managed to surprise me again.

RainMaker 08-20-2020 12:03 PM

Now we see why Barr fired that AG.

albionmoonlight 08-20-2020 12:06 PM

Also, it is kind of funny that most of the people who worked on the Trump campaign clearly didn't expect him to win and were just along to grift off the top and expect to get away with it b/c of the norm against prosecuting your opponents.

Trump's voters are happy he won. The GOP members of Congress, governors, etc. are happy that he won.

But the actual guys who worked on the campaign wanted a The Producers-like scenario where the campaign failed miserably and they slipped out the back door on November 4th holding bags with big dollar signs written on them.

Winning fucked all of that up.

Ksyrup 08-20-2020 01:37 PM

Don Jr issued a statement distancing himself from the Bannon thing, but Twitter is doing its thing. One of my favorites:


JPhillips 08-20-2020 01:58 PM

Whatever the shorthand is for I'm laughing so hard that I fall and roll off of a cliff and fall into the ocean while still laughing and then a shark eats me.


BYU 14 08-20-2020 02:15 PM

i know it is a common thread among bullies, but I have never seen anyone who dishes out so much and is such a weakling when it comes to taking it.

molson 08-20-2020 04:35 PM

Looks like you can't donate anymore at the "webuildthewall" website, but you still can support the cause in the shop. If anyone in your life needs a set of two silver President Trump collector's Coins, or an El Paso border wall steel credit card bottle opener.

Also, Trump lobbied for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to award a billion-dollar contract to the company with the Webuildthewall contract. If that kind of thing matters.

QuikSand 08-20-2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 3296689)
Ranked voting option I'm going:

1. Biden
2. Cult of Pedophiles and Cannibals
3. Trump
4. Jo Jorgensen


I have thought about this at least a half dozen times today, laughing under my breath each time. Bravo.

#TeamJoeOrTheCultIfNecessary

QuikSand 08-20-2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson (Post 3296934)
If that kind of thing matters.


Literally nothing matters

Atocep 08-20-2020 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3296936)
Literally nothing matters


We can try to rationalize what's going on all we want (I know I'm guilty of it), but voting right now can simply come down to how much you hate libtards. Nothing Trump does matters. Nothing Biden does matters. Nothing anyone does at this point matters.

sterlingice 08-20-2020 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3296859)
Bannon was arrested at sea by the Post Office?

2020, you magnificent bastard, you've managed to surprise me again.


Now can they arrest DeJoy for tampering with the mail?

SI

sterlingice 08-20-2020 06:20 PM

You know that whole "start fresh and let the past bygones be bygones" part of each new administration? Screw that this time.

If he wins, among Biden's first 100 days priorities, I want him to direct his DoJ, the FBI, and local DAs to do criminal probes into all the illegal shit this administration did. Don't publicize it or even prosecute it for a year or so, until the heavy lifting of new policy stuff gets done. But don't forget to do it - make sure it's being worked on. Not because of some sort of pettiness or vindictiveness. Not because they're all on an enemies list and to try and consolidate Democratic power. But because these people need to go to jail for doing illegal shit. There need to be consequences for all of this so that the next time someone wants to do this, they have to think there might be jail time at the end of it. And these practiced assholes don't need to be floating around in the job pool for the next prospective fascist to scoop right up and go right back to destroying our democracy.

I know this has like a 1 in 100 chance of happening but can I at least hope for it?

SI

whomario 08-20-2020 08:45 PM

Now blaming California again for basically having Wildfires because they didn't do what he told them (sth about "cleaning the floors" of forrests).

Also:

USPS Headquarters Tells Managers Not to Reconnect Mail Sorting Machines, Emails Show - VICE

Quote:

Shortly after USPS Postmaster General Louis DeJoy issued a public statement saying he wanted to "avoid even the appearance" that any of his policies would slow down election mail, USPS instructed all maintenance managers around the country not to reconnect or reinstall any mail sorting machines they had already disconnected, according to emails obtained by Motherboard.

And why this goes beyond the election or rather how their egomania has a massive spillover effect. Talk about collateral damage.


USPS: Dead animals, rotting food, and chaos amid cutbacks - Los Angeles Times

Quote:

Packages piled up, blocking the aisles and the heavy sorting machinery. Boxes of steaks, fruit and other perishables rotted. Rats dashed across the floor. At one point, Scantlebury said, the “whole building was filled with gnats.”

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/19/...-patients.html

Quote:

"The situation is fluid but it's clear from our customer service team that an usually high number of patients are receiving their medication far later than expected — and in some cases, not receiving it at all. These delays are troubling for everyone, but for patients who rely on medication to live, it's especially dangerous," said Dr. Jessica Nouhavandi, co-founder and lead pharmacist for Honeybee Health, which delivers generic medications via USPS.


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