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The good news is that they won't need to do this after Trump wins because it'll be impossible for vast swathes of the electorate to cast a ballot in the first place. |
I'm still pretty confident nothing matters, but this from the Archbishop of Puerto Rico is at least a possible problem for Trump.
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There was a second box, about 5 blocks from my apt, that was also lit on fire. 2 ballot boxes set on fire in Portland and Vancouver - OPB |
Vancouver is home to that fascist group that I can't remember the name of. Lot of violent extremists out there.
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And now the chair of the GOP in Puerto Rico is demanding an apology.
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Considering the actual joke crudely slandered Latinos, the focus on Puerto Rico is kind of a win for Trump IMO.
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Absolutely. Reading the 'jokes' from that event, the Puerto Rico one was the least offensive, which is saying something. |
Apparently a CNN panel discussion about the 'comedy' ended with death threats from one panelist to another.
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There's a lot of Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania! |
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It's almost like the normalization of racists over the last decade might have consequences. |
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Have to admit, I've never understood roasts. I like standup (or at least did in the 80s, I guess I don't really watch much of it anymore), but roasts? Never appealed to me. |
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Shocking. pretty clear that the conservative went over the line there. I'm sure Trump can find him a new job. |
A promotion even!
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It would be awesome if this cost him the election. |
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Don't watch this at work but it's Tony at the Tom Brady roast. It's short, less than 2 minutes. He hits basically the entire room. hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NJQekKaepk |
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dola- and you know the Trump campaign is freaking because they actually issued a statement saying those remarks don't represent Trumps opinions. They never retreat so you know they are worried.
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I hate JD Vance as much as the next guy, but this analysis of his favorite card in Magic: The Gathering is a bit far-reaching.
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The difference between Dems and GOPers.
Seven swing state polls come out, six show a one point lead for Dems, one shows a one point lead for GOPers. Dems - We're definitely going to lose! GOPers - We're guaranteed to win! |
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It's not just that it's simple. It's simple in a way that does not make sense. There's no reason someone should look at a billboard that says Liz Cheney supports a Muslim ban, and then vote Trump. I'm not sure what you're trying to say when you mention putting the campaign "in the hands of" Liz Cheney - I'm guessing you're just being overdramatic. I think the purpose seems obvious. It's to show that Trump is uniquely awful to the point that both sides of the aisle don't want him. |
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I don't think it's a coincidence that Trump started to bounce back after Musk became the de facto VP when they decided to hide Vance. Pretty sure having a younger face for the shit Trump says somehow makes it harder for his people to support. |
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Anti-Muslim stuff goes well beyond the last decade. What the guy said is indistinguishable from what politicians on both sides and even people on this board have said recently. Heck, CNN's own anchors have been doing this for a year. Trump had a rally the other day with people doing this and Harris is touring the country with someone who formed a PAC to just this like 20 years ago. The guy is a Nazi (for real, he worked and wrote for a literal Nazi) but what he said is standard fare and was only made a big deal because he had the guts to say it to the guy's face. |
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There's a ton of them out here. Weird fascist groups and Christian holy war cults. Most are in eastern Oregon, eastern Washington, and Idaho, but a few operate out of that Portland/Vancouver area. The one you're thinking of might be 3N. They were too crazy for the Proud Boys, got booted, and started their own group. |
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I don't think the goal is to make people change their mind and vote for Trump. I think the goal is to disenfranchise Muslims by pointing out the alternative to Trump is campaigning with an even bigger and more violent bigot. It's not a big deal to the Harris campaign because I don't think they are interested in those voters anyway. I think the ad is only effective in reminding Muslims in that area what Harris thinks of them. |
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I think it's called Patriot something which was mentioned earlier. When I was on a business trip to Portland a few years ago there was a big stink about them and protests because the cops were escorting them around the city and they were starting fights. And yeah, Eastern Oregon and that area is hardcore white supremacist and anti-government grounds. When you drive out to some of the parks and scenic spots, you'll come across signs everywhere for some Cascadia movement that wants to make a separate country or something for whites. Weird shit. |
We were just talking about Trump yard signs and how to get them. Well, guess what was sitting in my spam folder this afternoon? An ad trying to sell me Trump yard signs!
I didn't click to see how much, but they do come with a 30 day money back guarantee. I wonder how that works seeing as though you really only need them for another week. Is this the Trump version of buying a TV for the Super Bowl and returning it the following week? |
Just to help you with your nightmares tonight:
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For your musical enjoyement, here's the Marsh Family Songs with their parody of Bohemian Rhaposody, "Bohemian Trumpsody" I think Kamala should invite them to sing at her Inauguration. :)
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The bit was so bad I could almost believe dude did it on purpose to torpedo Trump.
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Musk admits the plan is to crash the economy to "rebuild it" in MAGA terms
meidasnews.com (pretty sure it's a slanted site, but the tweets are linked) |
That's why I don't think Musk is helping Trump. He's unpopular and says incredibly dumb things. Just plaster those quotes all over ads for the next week. I think they should have made a bigger deal out of Musk's involvement. This billionaire who has received hundreds of billions in government handouts wants to cut your benefits to enrich himself is a pretty good line of attack.
The Harris drop came when she made a hard turn to the right. She got a boost when people thought she'd break from Biden on some issues but ended up running the most right-wing campaign we've ever seen Democratic Presidential candidate. Maybe it works, but I think that's why she's losing, not because some unpopular billionaire is backing Trump. |
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Maybe Trump will also appoint Marjorie Taylor Greene as NOAA Administrator if he wins. |
Speaking of Musk and RFKj... worlds (or something) collide.
Elon Musk Offered His Sperm to RFK's Former Running Mate: Report |
Good old Uncle Creepy
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Anyone tracking this rumor/story about Trump having an affair and subsequent abortion with Tamron Hall? The site looks super legit (sarcasm) and the link keeps breaking my attempts to post it, but here's the URL xx'ed:
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Well that certainly be an October surprise, but can't think is true. Apparently though she left NBC somewhat unexpectedly after his Inauguration |
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Apparently the day a reporter asked Trump about this, was the day when all the hubbub dropped about a potentially campaign-ending rumor. I don't believe it either, but I will enjoy it if it makes its way into the election conversation. |
I think she still does mainly true crime stuff, but I haven't seen much of her recently.
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Yeah, she has her own murder show on one of those ancillary networks.
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Trotter is a legitimate reporter and the site is just a substack. Nothing shady.
Seems more like he's just throwing out the rumor people were speculating on last week to either stir something to the surface or let others investigate. There isn't much to corroborate it but no one in corporate media is going to touch it even if it were true. I don't necessarily believe it and there isn't much evidence out there. But Trotter was with Gawker when they reported on voicemail recordings back before he became President where Hall had left very friendly messages. So they were close friends at one point. |
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I'm just gonna drop this comment in here rather than in Random, no point in it somehow turning into controversy there.
I was simply going to mention that I early-voted in person today and it took a whopping five minutes from parking in front of the building to ballot scanned and counted. I definitely made some good choices on day, time, location (we have, I think, 7 early voting in person spots around the county). Same place, I'm told, was lined up around the building an hour before opening on Saturday but as a process today was pretty darned hassle free. Poll workers outnumbered voters when I was there about 3 or 4 to 1. |
Nice. I went on Friday and was in line for an hour at 2 in the afternoon. Line formed outside the building and snaked around a few hallways once inside. Workers said it had been like that since opening the day before. Younger kid went today and it took maybe a bit more than half that. Of course the county only has 4 early voting sites for 198k registered voters (200k would have warranted 5).
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I believe we have 7 sites (this year, it has varied some) for around 70k registered voters. That said however, the days open as well as hours vary by location. Some are Mon-Sat, others are Mon-Fri only, some 7a-5p, some 7a-7p, etc etc etc |
I voted Tuesday around 2 and was in and out in about 8 minutes. People were steady in and out, but very little waiting.
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I walked in on Monday to vote and was out within 5 minutes(had to wait about one minute on a machine to empty). 4,600 registered voters in the county. One site.
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So Biden called Trump supporters floating garbage.
This is why Harris hasn't wanted him anywhere near the campaign. |
Can't make this up. Kill Tony podcast episode dropped yesterday and was filmed in September. Tony has on a sweatshirt that has a patch of the flag for Puerto Rico on his arm.
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100%. I agree with both sides. It is who he is, but you can’t get on stage at a political event and roll his set. It just shows how self aware both he and the team that put the rally together are not. |
You'd think next President has a fair chance to appoint at least 1 SCOTUS due to age. I can't imagine working in my 70s.
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Exactly. If Jeff Ross was brought up on stage at a political rally, I'd expect jokes, but I'd hope he'd make them far tamer than his usual roast jokes. This is about targeting specific minorities with bad jokes mostly, but it's also about the lack of decorum/civility and coarseness of language that has become acceptable in politics these days. |
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No he didn't. But the GOP is going to pretend he did. To believe this, you have to not only take the most tortured interpretation of what he said but also ignore the decades-long history of Biden praising Republicans. |
It's the most straightforward interpretation of what he said, and that decades-long history is not relevant to what he actually said in this case. Politicians say dumb things and occasionally lose their filter. That's particularly true for older politicians, and Biden has always had more such moments than most.
Ofc it's not representative of Biden's entire career interactions with Republicans, but it is most definitely what he said. We can't (correctly) go after Trump for stuff like the Puerto Rico thing, and then give Biden a pass. |
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course the gop is going to take it out of context, all the while clutching their pearls and making false equivalency, but he did say it. |
If you believe the word was plural rather than possessive, but the context around that makes it non-sensical if it was plural.
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Mike Johnson said the GOP will repeal the ACA if they hold Congress. These folks never let anything go. |
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It doesn’t matter what I believe what matters are the words that came out of his mouth. You honestly sound like a maga person defending what Trump said, and trying to explain what he really meant when everyone heard the exact words clearly |
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Someone did a bit during his first term, maybe Klepper, who went to a rally and asked people about Obamacare and they all said they want to get rid of it then asked where they get their insurance from they said the ACA. |
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Great idea, lets drive more people to public assistance and widen that wealth gap, agenda progressing nicely. Clown. |
JD Vance gaslights everybody by telling them they are snowflakes for being offended by the Puerto Rico comments.
And then 4 seconds later, he's all in a huff because of Biden's statement. So I guess it's only okay when it's his side doing it. |
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So explain to me how you can tell the difference between supporter's and supporters? Keep in mind he also immediately clarified what he meant and has decades of saying the exact opposite of what he's accused of here. edit: Everyone is just so used to taking whatever GOP bullshit at face value. |
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Are you seriously not understanding the people running with this do not care about the difference or the context. Do we understand it, of course, but the people that will use this against him don't care. His EXACT words were "the only floating garbage is his supporters." He said those words. He has had to issue a statement, the White House has had to issue one, and Harris had to address it this morning. It absolutely is bad for her campaign. It is why they didn't want him to speak. Maybe he should have said something like "The only floating garbage is the vile and racist rhetoric from some of his supporters" You can't make a statement the way he did that is so open to interpretation. It is a completely unforced error. You expecting MAGA supporters or right wing media to actually explain the context or point out the differences is amazingly naive. They openly will lie and distort the truth. You think they are going to explain away and excuse something he actually said? |
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Good thing I'm not voting for Biden... btw I just heard Trump ain't going to the Penn State game anymore...they may be conceding PA is a lost cause and he's already been bitching that it's rigged in PA (which there was some election interference going on...checking my notes, by Republicans). |
Trump was in Allentown last night and there was barely any word about it other than how it was going to impact traffic.
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I have cricket on in the background on ESPN+. If you've ever watched cricket, you know there are a lot of short ad breaks, like 30 seconds. Literally every break includes a Trump ad attacking Kamala. I don't know if it's because we have T-Mobile and it for some reason gives us a Charlotte IP address, but I can't imagine theres a huge overlap between Trump voters and people who watch Caribbean ODI cricket during the day
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Speaking of...interesting...ads, I listen to music on the free version of Pandora while I lift. In the last few weeks I have been repeatedly served up an ad telling me I should vote for Trump because Kamala is going to make menthol cigarettes illegal. Not in a list of bad things she's gonna do either, not as a part of any overarching narrative. Nope, nothing else mentioned. It's a single-issue ad, and that issue is.....menthol cigarettes. Um.......ok.
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That's simply demographic targeting. Despite being my go-to for my entire smoking history, menthol is primarily a black thing, more than 2.5x as likely to smoke menthol as whites. Some random white chick out there probably got an ad about limiting pumpkin spice. |
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I'm sure they connected that info even if you didn't provide it. If your Pandora account uses your email address, that's an easy jump to connecting you with all sorts of info that is out there about you.
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Or is it that my workout station is heavily 80s and 90s hip hop? :D
[Rakim]How can I move the crowd???? First of all, ain't no mistakes allowed. Here's the instructions...put it together It's simple, ain't it? But quite clever.[/Rakim] |
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Now THAT would change the suburban mom vote. |
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That would be the one thing that would change my vote-give me pumpkin spice, give me liberty :) |
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You said that Biden called Trump supporters floating garbage and he most certainly didn't. The GOP will only make something of it if people decide to accept their nonsense spin. We don't have to do that. Biden's immediate clarification and past make it obvious he didn't mean what the GOP is saying. |
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Those were literally his exact words and 47% of the country has taken them as such. I'm not the one that needs convincing, we're on the same side but this has dominated the news cycle today and taken the focus off what the comedian said. Do you honestly think MAGA and right wing media is having some thoughtful introspection that Biden wasn't really calling them garbage and reflecting on his statements of his time in office? He chose his words VERY poorly and now Harris and her campaign may pay a price. If you can't see that you're being overly partisan. |
I don't give a fuck what the right decides to focus on. We can just call it bullshit and move on. If they want to spend the next week talking about it on X, so be it, but we can call it out for the bullshit that it is.
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So Harris/Walz have released called "Freedom Town." Not sure how I feel about it. a plus for trying to reach out to other voting groups. But a minus to do it in a game where you shoot and kill each other even though they have banned guns on the map.
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Who are you going to potentially lose by calling Trump supporters garbage? I can see why insulting an entire island of Latinos is a bad idea, but I don't know what Harris voters would consider insulting Trump supporters some kind of line in the sand. I guess you're potentially losing any Trump supporters that were considering switching sides, but that's like what 2-3 people? I don't think insulting Trump's supporters is going to potentially push a non-voter into a voter, like the original comments about Puerto Rico could.
It's a gaffe for sure, but it's a gaffe pointed at folks who were 100% not going to vote for Kamala in the first place. I can't think of what needle it's going to move...other than no longer having the claim to the high road (a strategy that has been proven a loser over and over and over) |
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In context, you can see he is talking about the comedian. It doesn't make sense the other way when you put the rest of the statement in there. |
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Why does it matter? Trunp says 10 things worse than this every single day. It pissed his supporters off, but who cares? A significant portion of his supporters are trash and dems act like MAGA is some boogeyman they're afraid will be summoned.
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It was a gaffe and unforced error by Biden but I doubt it changes any votes. It'll probably be forgotten by this weekend. Harris addressed it and most will just move on and vote like they would have anyway. MAGA will always find something to be aggrieved about.
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There are only three kinds of people who oppose Trump in this election: 1) the ignorant 2) the mentally/emotionally ill 3) the plain old simple evil Whaddya know, the three primary causes for liberalism. You talk a lot of shit for a nutjob behind a keyboard. Wish you'd give that a try around people that are actually worth a damn some time. Some of that "trash" might give you a badly needed education. |
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You see, I'm far more than a nut job behind a keyboard. I've spent the bulk of my life helping other people. I did multiple enlistments in the army before and after 9/11. My wife medically retired from the Army. I've been a single parent that's volunteered in the community and coaching kids. I currently work in an Army hospital and help ensure active duty and veterans get the healthcare they need every day. Which of those 3 categories would that put me in? Yes, most Trump supporters are trash. I will stand by that statement as long as the racists, bigots, grifters, and general trash are both welcomed and encouraged in MAGA. I will say it as long as J6 is a think that's embraced by MAGA. I'll say it as long a con man that's a traitor the country is your cult leader. And if that post set you off to the point of wishing violence on me, then I suggest you take a look at your 3 categories and figure out which one you're part of. |
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Blue MAGA is real. Same people who tried to convince everyone that Biden was of sound mind all year. He said what he said. Maybe he didn't mean it that way. I don't know. But he's in cognitive decline and has said a lot of really outlandish things in the past year so maybe he doesn't even know what he said. |
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Which goes back to my original point of why the Harris campaign doesn't want him on the trail. People are claiming no big deal have forgotten about the basket of deplorables comment. |
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Biden needs to stay in the White House and STFU until after November 5. For the better part of the last five months, he's been the gift that keeps on giving to the Trump campaign. It's almost like he's become an accidental surrogate for Trump every time he shuffles up to a podium and opens his mouth. |
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Joe is old, and his age probably is the reason that phrasing was clunky. He most likely wouldn't have said it that way even two years ago. But you still have to completely ignore the statements leading in, and the sentence after to make what he said mean all Trump supporters.
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