She should just retire right now and look after her health.

I'm sure McConnell will remain ideologically consistent and wait for the voice of the people to heard in the November elections and respect the results before voting on any replacements.

(Try typing THAT with a straight face)

This gets at one of my great frustrations with Dems. The leadership seems to want and expect the media to drive the news cycle, but that's not what happens. The media will go where the parties lead them. The GOP fully understands this. Dems need to focus on a topic for days or weeks with a coordinated response from numerous members.

Instead, we get angry tweets about the outrage of the day and then the sun sets and they do it all over again on this day's outrage. And, so, Trump's one thousand scandals end up hurting him less than if there was only one.

This interview with political data analyst David Schor is terrific.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ory-polls.html

However distribution works out when it happens, there will be winners and losers, recriminations and finger pointing etc. I would like to hear what ethicists have to say (not Trump nor Melinda Gates).

How do I become an ethicist?

It sounds like a lazy and highly pretentious job.

Did your keyboard grow a long wooden nose or spontaneously catch fire when you typed that? :D

SI

FWIW.

Honesetly doesn't seem pretentious to me.

https://learn.org/articles/Medical_E...lary_FAQs.html

The COVID-19 thread (the political version)
 

Here you go. Enjoy.

Because you told me to enjoy it I choose not to.

So this mask thing is absurd. The state of fucking ALABAMA has a mask ordinance, but our idiot governor in Georgia is suing individual cities and counties for their mask ordinances. All the while saying people should wear masks and he thinks they will... Like I get not having a state wide ordinance if you think some rural areas may not need them, but why can't cities like Atlanta which are hitting ICU limits take extra precautions?

Might as well merge 'em, 'cause it's all political.

We hardly agree, but 100% with you on this one.

I was going to point out that it's kindof comical to even call it the Wuhan Coronavirus thread at this point

SI

That in itself can be construed as political, which negated the prime directive of the other thread right off the bat.

Let's build a wall around the virus and make the virus pay for it!

Am I doing this right?

You are right, I'll change it. What do you want to call it?

My sources tell me that the virus doesn't have a valid US birth certificate and actually came from outside the United States.

I'm considering going down to ground zero at the justice center to see how things are popping off tonight. Or I might go to bed at 7.

So I do remember some conversation that the current COVID-19 in the US is more due to mutations of the original COVID-19 in Italy which came into NYC. I'm not sure how accurate that is though - although the virus which came into NYC was from Europe rather than China.

exactly.

People also complained there were already too many Covid threads.

Just look out for unmarked SS vans.

SI

Wrong thread.

This one if for political commentary.

You want to talk epidemiology you have to start a new thread on the topic.

I dunno. Maybe just the "The COVID-19 thread"? The other one already has the name and the no politics label.

SI

The clip of Chris Wallace's interview with Trump where he calls him out on the Biden/defunding the police lie is hilarious. I'm kinda surprised he allowed Wallace to interview him as he is one of the few at Fox News willing to go wherever the facts take him.

The Dr. Fauci Epidemiology thread.

Good idea. But you’re only allowed to discuss the disease, not the credibility of Fauci. That one will have to go in a newly created thread about the merits of wearing a mask.

Done.

So Georgia has been on CNN a bunch today (no surprised, the HQ is in GA), but I really hate my state being a worldwide laughing stock due to our idiot Governor. I hear people are researching recall provisions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f38_story.html


Who are these 38%?

The ones who think it's a hoax

SI

Oh, he's already said that the Gorsuch Maneuver only counts when it's a Democratic Presidency and a GOP Senate. When the same party controls both, that's different.

The Governor of Florida is reopening gyms because (and I shit you not):


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...e9e6b665a2106e

He's trying to outdumb Kemp..

It's part "hoax" people, but it's also the "I have to support Trump because Dems are evil even though I'll privately admit this hasn't gone well" people, plus the "media and certain state officials are making it look worse than it really is because the end goal is to vote Trump out" people.

Meanwhile, it's pretty obvious that Trump and his biggest supporters/enablers have been their own worst enemy.

And apparently all of these people post on Facebook.

That's the base

Leave Brian be. He so rarely gets anything right, let me have the one time he managed to hit the stopped clock exception.

I saw a guy post someplace else yesterday that Trump is kicking China's ass. He's also anti-mask and believes Covid is just the flu so I'm sure he's part of the 38% and gives you an idea of what we're working with here.

Guess Trump didn't like hearing those rumors about his now former campaign manager:

Trump campaign conducting internal review of 2020 spending irregularities - Business Insider

Process complaints by the GOP are almost always in bad faith. They want to use process to win. That's it.

Comforting to think that lots of the same folks that can't be bothered to wear a mask are the same folks that will prevent us from ever moving an inch on gun control.

A former HS teacher of mine likes to post on current and past numbers without giving any chance that cases/hospitalizations/deaths will continue to go up. It started months ago with number of total deaths and moved to cases outside of NY and has now moved to average deaths per day over the past 120 days in TX compared to the worst flu season in the past ten years.

I'm not sure if we've covered, this, but in the last two days, Kanye: dropped out, filed a Statement of Organization with the FEC, AND officially got on the Oklahoma ballot. Apparently you can pay your way on that one. His party affiliation is the birthday party. But Oklahoma considers him an independent.

Kanye is going to finish 3rd in Oklahoma.

Companies are selling, and people are buying, mesh masks which are intended to comply with local requirements, but have the special desired, and intended, feature of not actually having any ability to protect you from anything.

Anti-mask protesters' new weapon: wearing masks that offer no COVID-19 protection | wthr.com

The latest racist Karen video out of CA where a guy is confronted while mowing the lawn at an apartment complex to "show me your papers, mariposa" pisses me off so much I want to go there and beat her ass myself. Thanks to Trump, these people are so emboldened to be racist on camera and smile about it that it just makes my blood boil. Just vile ugliness.

A buddy has already shut his gym down twice since the middle of May when he re-opened.

The WH is writing copy for The Lincoln Project again.

Trump adviser tells WaPo that when it comes to the pandemic, the president is “not really working this anymore. He doesn’t want to be distracted by it. He’s not calling and asking about data. He’s not worried about cases.” https://t.co/cMaaFvu1rY

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) July 18, 2020

Question (In The Office mode): Is the Supreme court out of touch of the realities of todays society? Are they puppets of their parties? Or are they the most intellectual law minds of our times?

With the health of Ginsberg, Im wondering if a switch to a younger court may be able to adapt to the ever changing and quickly changing world.

Doesn't want to be distracted by a pandemic, because he has more important things to do.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Those golf balls won't hit themselves, you know.

Whichever side ends up losing the PredictIt market on whether he officially ran or not will have a legitimate complaint.