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Edward64 09-26-2016 10:02 PM

What's the deal with Trumps "breathing"? Anyone else notice it?

I. J. Reilly 09-26-2016 10:03 PM

My God, listening to Trump on his birtherism is painful.

Edit: And now she just flat out calls him a racist.

Ben E Lou 09-26-2016 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3120546)
What's the deal with Trumps "breathing"? Anyone else notice it?

I think he just has a bit of a cold.

digamma 09-26-2016 10:07 PM

Many people are saying he did coke before the debate.

Easy Mac 09-26-2016 10:08 PM

I told my wife he sounds like he really needs a drink. His voice is struggling after about 45 seconds of his two minutes.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:08 PM

Body language alert: Trump looks very fidgety and flailing, but Clinton has presented as more still and relaxed.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:13 PM

Trump lost the fat hacker vote with his 400 lb. comment.

cthomer5000 09-26-2016 10:14 PM

I think Trump is getting hammered, but I guarantee his supporters think he's killing it. We're just beyond facts, reason, or basic logic now.

I. J. Reilly 09-26-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 3120552)
Trump lost the fat hacker vote with his 400 lb. comment.


Heh, I wonder how that went down over at r/The_Donald

RainMaker 09-26-2016 10:17 PM

I kept an open mind as to who I thought was winning. Trump did well early on but damn that birther stuff just destroyed him.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:19 PM

I actually thought Hillary could have hit hard on the birther topic, she missed a softball there. But, yeah, not a good look for Trump.

RainMaker 09-26-2016 10:19 PM

Isn't stop and frisk unconstitutional? I'm all for being tougher on crime but he keeps talking about instilling something that is unconstitutional.

Ben E Lou 09-26-2016 10:21 PM

"The record shows that I'm right."--Donald J. Trump

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:21 PM

Hey guys, I think Trump supported the Iraq War.

larrymcg421 09-26-2016 10:22 PM

"I haven't thought a lot about NATO".

That just happened.

Edward64 09-26-2016 10:22 PM

Donald's support for/not war in Iraq will be a major piece tomorrow.

Ironhead 09-26-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3120558)
Isn't stop and frisk unconstitutional? I'm all for being tougher on crime but he keeps talking about instilling something that is unconstitutional.


When the moderator questioned him on whether it was constitutional he said that the judgment that it was unconstitutional was made by a bad judge who hates the police and that it would be overturned if it was appealed.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:22 PM

I feel bad for all those people updating Hillary's fact checking website in real-time. They need combat pay, or at least disability benefits.

Edward64 09-26-2016 10:23 PM

"Whoo, okay" ... nice comeback after that torturous monologue.

larrymcg421 09-26-2016 10:24 PM

"I have a much better temperament than she does". LMAO

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:25 PM

OK, she is officially killing Trump.

RainMaker 09-26-2016 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly (Post 3120555)
Heh, I wonder how that went down over at r/The_Donald


Don't you know that they are all in great shape, have high paying jobs, and super hot model girlfriends?

murrayyyyy 09-26-2016 10:28 PM

Rocky, throw the damn towel!

I thought his tv experience would help but she got him off his game quickly tonight and he's miss opportunities to either answer the question or hit her back when there was an opening.

Still voting for johnson thougb.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:31 PM

Trump has seemingly given up, he's completely stopped trying to interrupt Hillary and cut her off.

I. J. Reilly 09-26-2016 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy (Post 3120570)
Rocky, throw the damn towel!

I thought his tv experience would help but she got him off his game quickly tonight and he's miss opportunities to either answer the question or hit her back when there was an opening.

Still voting for johnson thougb.


She has left herself open a few times, but he simply doesn't know enough about anything relevant to take advantage. But I'm With Her, so maybe I just have my red pantsuit glasses on.

Edward64 09-26-2016 10:34 PM

Hillary's stamina comeback was pretty good.

heybrad 09-26-2016 10:34 PM

This is getting kind of embarrassing at this point.

Easy Mac 09-26-2016 10:36 PM

Trump hasn't been able to coke up for an hour and a half. You try to go that long without a bump.

cuervo72 09-26-2016 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3120549)
Many people are saying he did coke before the debate.


Howard Dean Thinks Donald Trump Might Be On Coke

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:37 PM

Poor Trump had his feelings hurt by negative ads.

PilotMan 09-26-2016 10:38 PM

She needs to say "that's just business Donald."

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:39 PM

Trump gritting his teeth at Holt a few times was not a good look.

Easy Mac 09-26-2016 10:39 PM

I wish Lester would just say,"just answer my fucking question."

Easy Mac 09-26-2016 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 3120580)
Trump gritting his teeth at Holt a few times was not a good look.


Sneering at a black man, plenty of people will eat that up.

kingfc22 09-26-2016 10:41 PM

Sad to think that nearly half this country watched the same 90 minute debate and think Donald is the clear choice to lead this nation.

larrymcg421 09-26-2016 10:41 PM

PredictIt has gone from .63 before the debate to .69 now.

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:43 PM

I feel like more pressure was on Hillary tonight, and she survived it. She needed to be aggressive while also trying to appear cool and likeable. I think she pulled it off, but her monotone, measured speaking tone is just rough.

With narrowing of the polls, and the expectations game seemingly favoring Trump if he was composed, Trump really flailed after a good start. The lack of debate prep was glaring. Second debate will be interesting to watch to see if he actually puts some time into prep.

murrayyyyy 09-26-2016 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly (Post 3120572)
She has left herself open a few times, but he simply doesn't know enough about anything relevant to take advantage. But I'm With Her, so maybe I just have my red pantsuit glasses on.


It almost feels like he felt like he could get by on his charisma or his prep team guessed wrong on all the question that were going to come up tonight.

He survived with interviews after every debate so maybe he is planning on falling back on that tonight.

Atocep 09-26-2016 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold (Post 3120585)

The lack of debate prep was glaring. Second debate will be interesting to watch to see if he actually puts some time into prep.


This has been trump's weakness from the outset. His lack of knowledge on issues at this point is inexcusable. If he were serious at all about becoming president he'd have shown some improvement by now.

larrymcg421 09-26-2016 10:48 PM

He did fine in the primaries because in a multi-candidate debate, it's easier to get by on personality. When it's just two people, you have to actually know a few things.

Mizzou B-ball fan 09-26-2016 10:49 PM

Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.

Ben E Lou 09-26-2016 10:49 PM

Just switched over to Fox post-debate coverage. They were slamming his performance...then switched to a lovefest interview with DJT and Hannity.

Atocep 09-26-2016 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 3120589)
Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.


The irony in this post may break FOFC.

BYU 14 09-26-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3120591)
The irony in this post may break FOFC.


:lol:

RedKingGold 09-26-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 3120589)
Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.


I'm actually a registered Republican and presented a fairly balanced review of both candidates. But you keep fucking that chicken.

Trump sucked in his debate skills tonight, and you're in denial if you think differently. That's a completely different issue than who I think would be a better Presidential candidate or who I would actually vote for in November.

cuervo72 09-26-2016 10:53 PM

Yeah, I wandered over to Fox too. I think they're just going to regroup and figure out what the spin should be. Looks like it might be the 30 year stuff, and that he did well for his first one-on-one vs her fifteenth.

Ben E Lou 09-26-2016 10:54 PM

Not a registered Republican, but have never voted Democrat for POTUS (and extremely rarely for other offices). She won this hands down. No question. (And as I mentioned, he's getting criticized by everyone over at Fox other than Hannity right now.)

cartman 09-26-2016 10:55 PM

Word is that Bill was seen heading out of the debate hall with Melania.

Ben E Lou 09-26-2016 10:56 PM

Did Megyn Kelly take a shot at Hannity? What I *thought* I heard her say was "Donald Trump is with Sean Hannity right now. We'll see if he talks to the journalists in the room." Did I hear that correctly?

ISiddiqui 09-26-2016 10:57 PM

Speaking of Hannity, is he saying Trump was privately against Iraq? ;)

She ripped him a new one after he seemed to be doing fairly decently the first half hour (was she baiting him?), but we'll see if it translates to poll numbers.


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