And who can forget

dola

I mean, say he decided not to run again. He'd be holding rallies in Red America where he could just trash Biden, and the crowd would be chanting "Run Again! Run Again!"

And every GOP hopeful would be coming by constantly to kiss his ring and tell him how great he is and beg for his endorsement.

It would be the life he always wanted. And he had it. In hand. And he couldn't keep it.

Shakespeare-level fatal flaw.

Heck, without the post-election craziness he would have a much better chance of winning in 2024.

Hope they do a GA poll soon on the indictment. I'd like to know the split

dola: I wonder how Lin Wood didn't get an indictment?

Couldn't quite place where my quote came from, then unearthed this memory.

Taking the docs isn't even the issue. If he had given them back he would be fine.

The damage he has done in servitude to no one but himself will be irreparable for decades.

I would say he would be the strong favorite.


I suspect he is individual 1 and in cooperating.

Hilary should be smart enough to stay far away and let things run their course. I voted for her (easy decision against Trump) so it's not an anti-Hilary stance. It's that nothing good will come of it.


As Hilary above this stuff is stupid. Just report the facts, let Trump spew his bullshit denials/threats/"perfect calls" etc. and keep digging the hole deeper. I watched a clip on youtube from msnbc and was happy to see almost somber faces along with facts. Lasted about half the clip before the reporter's smiles started to bubble up. Mocking and "I told you so's" is not the way to go here.

Funny it took him 2 and a half years to release this "damning report"


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...34198672842753

In fairness, he was busy planning Infrastructure Week.

There really was no excuse after he released his comprehensive Healthcare plan

I guess The Four Seasons {retirement community} nearby was booked.

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This is like when I tell my daughter she has to clean her room today and then I check the next morning and she's like, wait don't come in yet.

Ha, a Republican in the making! :)

RIGGERS!

I'll bet he had to fight his auto-correct pretty hard.

Lawyers, what is most likely to derail the Georgia case? My guess is the timeline on the Jan 6 case. If the Georgia DA can hit her hopeful timeline of 6 months, that would put it right at the hopeful timeline of the Jan 6 case. That would mean the Federal case supersedes the state case right? They have the Superiority there?

Brian Kemp's response:

The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen.

For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward - under oath - and prove anything in a court of law. Our elections in Georgia are secure, accessible, and fair and will continue to be as long as I… pic.twitter.com/jaru2iBDo7

— Brian Kemp (@BrianKempGA) August 15, 2023

Kemp is trending on Twitter and the mentions are as insane and discouraging as you could imagine.

Twitter is a right-wing cesspool. Entirely as expected. Can't believe everyone (sane) hasn't just left it to rot yet.

Never claimed I was sane.

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Mark Meadows is the first to file asking the case be moved to Federal Court. I think it is likely to happen, at least for him and Trump.

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I know less than nothing about law, so take it with a few tons of salt, but have read that even if the case moves to federal court it will still be tried according to Georgia law and pardon is practically impossible.

Yeah, it just widens the jury pool and increases the chance he gets a more favorable judge. Reading more about it, it look like Meadows and Clark will have a good shot at getting it moved to a Federal Court. Trump might have more of an issue because one of his charges stems from actions after he left office.

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Not versed on the law but isn't it to protect federal employees that do something in their official job. Like if California wanted to charge a President with involuntary manslaughter because a decision they made on forest management led to the death of people in a fire.

These crimes were committed outside their official roles.

I also find it funny how these people are learning how fucked up conspiracy charges can be in this country. Government used to do some incredibly sketchy shit to charge people who maybe took a message for a drug dealer or let a criminal rent a room from them.Now when conspiracy is used against them, they're up in arms about how unfair it is.

This had a chance to be one of the greatest sentence ever written and the one to optimize this story. If we ever get anything close to an accurate portrayal of history, I hope someone makes the necessary edits.

Original.

She also used RICO (successfully I might add) in the Atlanta Public School cheating scandle.

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Aren't they using it against protestors of cop city?

DA asking for a March 4th date.


Yes. The charges that are based on the bail fund.

I'm sure this is fine.

BREAKING: Trump supporters are targeting members of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and his 18 codefendants.

One post on a fringe website even featured their home addresses.

Story with @ReporterBlayne: https://t.co/nd3Q0pNq7H

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) August 16, 2023

I’m sure that they’re just going to March over to their houses peacefully to discuss democracy

But again

You can’t assume anything from their past actions and or statements

Only what they do and only after the fact and maybe in courts to figure out the intentions


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something something both sides.....

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-leg...y?id=102336380

SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!

All it does is feed the narrative and that's what his people want, and what drives Qanon.


All they need is *part of the story. They use imagination, and fill in the rest of the blanks with information that "fits" their narrative, so it all makes sense.

That's what drives all conspiracies frankly. Sort of like a game of Mad Libs, where ignorance is the fill in the blank part, and they add in whatever their brain cell said that makes it fit. Then they sell that to the masses on the internet, and someone else's brain cell agrees and now you have a conspiracy.



Here, he clearly has the answers, and solutions, just like he did with healthcare and fixing every other thing, but "they" won't let him do it. So it's not his fault, he's still perfect, and someone else is the foil.

It's the entire playbook, over and over again.

Trump has filed is suggested timeline for the Jan 6 trial. He proposes the trial to start in April.....2026.

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So like Infrastructure week and his health plan, the proof of election fraud presser is not happening either.

Trump cancels his Monday news conference. He has never produced any evidence of election fraud from 2020. pic.twitter.com/p3tqY4exPs

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) August 18, 2023

They actually set a bond in Fulton County. They also set bond conditions that I will guess he will break by this evening.

ALERT: Judge sets Donald Trump's bond in Fulton County, Georgia at $200,000

Order: "Defendant may post bond as cash, through commercial surety, or through the Fulton County Jail 10% program"

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 21, 2023

He will break them by the time his car hits the first stoplight.

As he gets ready to turn himself in on Thursday, he is what he had to say about the bail conditions:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...32068693049452

He can't help but post whatever is flitting through his brain, so he has definitely contemplated running.

Staying and fighting is still probably the smart strategic play for him, but it is interesting that running has crossed his mind.

John Eastman has been booked in Georgia after having to ask to pause his disbarment proceedings in CA because he had to turn himself in.

Listening to court action, it is never great when a defendant needs a continuance because they have to answer to another court.

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Fani Willis not fooling around with defendants who want to delay or move their arraingment to federal court:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...78992817533428

Sounds like most of the GA defendants are being booked today-Rudy, Sidney Powell. DA Willis holding firm on Jeff Clark and Mark Meadows who are still trying to fight it.

The emails showing contacts between the Secret Service and the Oathkeepers should be a major scandal.

I’m trying to think of what my reaction would have been in, say, 2002 to hear that in two decades a completely broke Mayor Rudy would be being booked on criminal charges in Georgia.

Yes it should

Same. I also thought how many military and law enforcement that were caught up in J6 should have been a bigger story too. But I guess that overton window has shifted.

I think people forget that Rudy came to power in New York by starting a race riot with his police supporters. He's always been a sketchy dude. 9/11 was the greatest thing to happen to him.

I thought Giuliani became popular because be pledged to cleanse New York City of falsified non-fat frozen yogurt?

Any veteran arrested and convicted for participating in J6 should have lost all VA benefits.

Judge denies both Meadows and Clark's motion to move to federal court. So maybe they can get a three for one mugshot tomorrow with Trump?

He refused to stop the arrest because they filed to move it to Federal court. Another judge is still going to make that decision. His ruling was that nothing stops in the state case while that decision is being made ie. it is not a way to stall an indictment.


edit: BTW, the hearing on the Meadows attempt to move the case is on Monday. Willis is supposed to call several witness that day. The who should be interesting.

thanks for the clarification Grant

Trump changed attorneys in the Georgia case, and I know the new guy. Steve Sadow is a pretty big white collar defense attorney. I worked with him and his wife for a little while.

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One of the defendants called for his right to a speedy trial and asked for a late October trial date. Degendants do that thinking they can catch the prosecuter unprepared. Fani said "let's go, bitch!"

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The judge has agreed to the timetable. This filing only list Chesebro, who made the request. As far as I know there hasn't been an agreement to sever the trials. I do imagine that is going to happen, though. There are different charges on each defendant and some do not overlap.

Fulton Judge Scott McAfee laying out a very aggressive timetable for Chesebro's Fulton trial, with an Oct. 23, 2023 start date. pic.twitter.com/uqOmqzuHRc

— Tamar Hallerman (@TamarHallerman) August 24, 2023

And I saw Trump's lawyers immediately filed to separate his trial from that one so they can delay delay delay


Also Meadows and Clark lost their appeals and gave up and will be arrainged today/tomorrow

There is only one of the 18 defendant that did not recieve bond and is sitting in the Fulton jail right now till Arraignment. Can you guess which one? If you said the only black defendant, you would be correct.

6'3 215. And if you pull the other one, it plays jingle bells.

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That was Ali's fighting height and weight in his prime.

Think I'll try this for my next Drivers license.

Too bad they can't add a perjury charge for that height and weight.



And /finally/ he's been arraigned for one of his crimes

He's 6'3", but 315 not 2. That's one hell of a lie.



Where's the Iraqi Minister of Truth for this one?

His mugshot looks like Vigo from Ghostbusters 2

Seriously somewhere William Howard Taft is ecstatic that he will no longer be remembered as the fattest president

Dumptruck reactivated his twitter oops X account and posted his mugshot. Sic him!

Trump tweets mugshot in return to former Twitter platform X | Donald Trump | The Guardian

I love great writing.

Taft was around 330 at the end of his presidency, but he also lost weight after leaving the Oval Office.

I'd love it for someone to ask him the secret to his losing 22 pounds since he left the WH.

If I were Biden I'd ask everyone to apologize to my dog who bit a SS* agent.

*Yes, I did that on purpose

Not to get all serious, but in some ways, the obvious lie (215 lbs.) is much more of a power play move than a plausible lie (260 lbs.)

Being able to brazenly lie and not get called on it is a power move. It shows he is still above the law and norms and truth. He is still Dear Leader, and reality is still what he says it is. And who's going to stop him?

Look, this douche is so small, and so insecure, and so unwilling to face any sort of actual, honest fact, about anything, that he's willing to lie about his weight, in public, to the entire world. And he's making it so bald faced that it fits with literally everything else he's done since 2015 so it's just another thing.



I'd lie about my weight too, and guess what? I weigh 310. So if I came out and said I weighed 280 people may not care to even notice, and I could probably get away with it. But if I said I weighted 210, people would laugh their asses off at me, and if my response was to "mean mug" them, they'd laugh even harder.

The dedicated cult followers simply see the denial of the truth and law as a way to exert power and fulfill their own desires to avoid any responsibility, coupled with the desire to stick it to the man AND make everyone else bow to THE MAN.



I really have a hard time, telling anyone who is still willing to support this guy that they are complete and total fucking morons. I have some bridges I'm not willing to burn over it, but come the fuck on people. You wouldn't tolerate this shit from your own kid would you? Or your neighbor?



How can someone who never pays their bills, and who invites people to the White House for dinner then serves them McD's ever be held up as a great, smart, wonderful and loving person? I mean, the list is longer than that, but if my neighbor invited me to his house and did that, while I also knew that he never paid the kid who mowed his lawn all summer, I doubt that we'd ever speak again.

I have no problem telling them they're fucking idiots.

I am going through this exact same thing with 2 of my sisters right now. At what point do I just let it go so I don't burn bridges when its a lost cause.
The back and forth with them on facebook this morning is mind blowing to me how much they adore this guy.

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Just leave this here

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...nances-1822417

I wonder if he'll stiff the bail bondsman, too.

I mean, you can't just have Putin pay your bail and not raise any red flags can you?

The reality is that he's a leverage machine. Anything to borrow and have as little outgoing as possible is where he's at. So if he only has to pay 20k, so what. I'm sure he's got enough to cover, it's that he would rather use leverage to pay for things than not. That way, he only paid 20 grand to get out of jail.

Yeah. A rich guy can afford to use his own money for things.

But he became a rich guy by never using his own money for things.

Yeah, that's a nothing burger. I'm sure the $20k came out of his defense fund the suckers keep pouring money into and not out of his pocket anyway.

All 19 defendants have now surrendered in Atlanta

But...trickle down economics

Joe Burrow is 6'4" and 215 lbs.

This is probably the most succinct sentence I've seen to describe the movement.

Poor guy

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html
Don't know if this guy is playing games but you'd think he'd want an attorney to help him through this process. Had to look it up, the eligibility for a public defender is "... if the defendant lives alone, he or she would have to earn less than $16,335 to qualify for legal services." TBH this sounds a little low to me.

Don't know anything about this guy except he is black-not sure otherwise why the judge thinks he's a flight risk and likely to commit more felonies, and the others weren't

I think the Judge said at this stage, the bond discussions are with another Judge. So he kinda missed his chance by not negotiating a bond earlier in the week.

YT of his hearing today. The "no bond" is at about 5 min mark.

Harrison Floyd 'Black Voices for Trump' leader denied bond - YouTube


GA courts are going to be providing a lot of entertainment starting (hopefully) in Oct. It'll be a fascinating legal/civics (?) drama.

So apparently, GA state congressmen are planning to use a newly formed committee, signed into law by Kemp earlier this year, for the purpose of kicking out DA's they don't like who don't prosecute enough, to kick out Willis after it takes effect in October, because she is prosecuting someone they like. If they are successful, they will install a puppet who will drop all charges and all cases.

Sounds like the Trump way.

Amazing how the word has gone out to ll the GOP pundits to proclaim that Trump will now win the black vote because blacks apparently love crime and celebrate criminals.

Stormy Daniels with the twitter win for best tweet about Donald's weight:


https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels/st...15271122428401

I don't know the specifics but I saw that he assaulted a federal officer. Didn't see anything explaining what that assault was related to.