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Danny 05-08-2014 09:47 AM

Any daily voting recaps?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 10:16 AM

claphamsa 5 - mauchow (102), Zinto (141), DaddyTorgo (155), Coffee Warlord (160), britrock88 (171)
Chief Rum 3 - Autumn (134), The Jackal (138), JAG (151)
JAG 1 - Suicane75 (96)
Zinto 1 - Chief Rum (112)

Fix Portal 6 - The Jackal (182), britrock88 (185), murrayyyyy (195), DaddyTorgo (275), JAG (282), mauchow (286)
saldana 4 - Zinto (209), Coffee Warlord (247), Suicane75 (274), Chief Rum (279)
Chief Rum 1 - Autumn (198)

Not a particularly great subset.

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 10:19 AM

Adding in myself and Zinto just for personal observation. I know I'm good, I think Zinto is too.

claphamsa 5 - mauchow (102), Zinto (141), DaddyTorgo (155), Coffee Warlord (160), britrock88 (171)
Chief Rum 3 - Autumn (134), The Jackal (138), JAG (151)
JAG 1 - Suicane75 (96)
Zinto 1 - Chief Rum (112)

Fix Portal 6 - The Jackal (182), britrock88 (185), murrayyyyy (195), DaddyTorgo (275), JAG (282), mauchow (286)
saldana 4 - Zinto (209), Coffee Warlord (247), Suicane75 (274), Chief Rum (279)
Chief Rum 1 - Autumn (198)

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 10:21 AM

Brit, Jackal, and DT maybe?

The Jackal 05-08-2014 10:38 AM

I'm still leaning towards mau and DT

The Jackal 05-08-2014 10:47 AM

I'm wondering if the effect of guarding the portal is cumulative, in other words the more days we keep it intact the better our bonuses get. Seems like that might be worth thinking about - but we can't avoid lynching forever.

mauchow 05-08-2014 11:55 AM

Just a gut feeling on zinto, CW?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 12:20 PM

Totally. Zero proof, more blind optimistic hope the mayor couldn't be a wolf.

The Jackal 05-08-2014 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2925539)
Totally. Zero proof, more blind optimistic hope the mayor couldn't be a wolf.


I'd say that's a reason to not vote him today, but I wouldn't stick to blind hope if there's any sketchy trends with him closer to the end of the game.

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 12:29 PM

Wouldn't disagree with that at all. For today, however, it's my best means of putting more green on the board to look for outliers. It certainly shouldn't be considered definitive. Or even slightly definitive.

Zinto 05-08-2014 12:31 PM

Our voting history is rough. Yesterday didn't help much(though having the portal up is a good thing)

Zinto 05-08-2014 12:31 PM

I think that guarding the portal again today is an awful move. We need to get some vote history out there.

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 02:17 PM

Vote DaddyTorgo

Chief Rum 05-08-2014 02:17 PM

Zinto has to be considered as readily as anyone. He was elected by fact of being the first vote getter on Day One. It has nothing to do with his actual allegiance.

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 02:18 PM

He's on my fairly poorly contrived list of candidates, and something rubbed me the wrong way on his day 1 vote on me. He was awfully verbose in explaining a day 1 vote.

Zinto 05-08-2014 02:29 PM

Vote Mau

Zinto 05-08-2014 02:32 PM

I don't have a great reason. I just figure we need to get some kind of conversation going today or we will be pushing five before there are any votes.

britrock88 05-08-2014 02:32 PM

vote Autumn

britrock88 05-08-2014 02:33 PM

It seems like Autumn has ridden CR hard for the two days of substantive voting we've had. CR's responses have struck me as villager-ish, yet Autumn has pressed on.

EagleFan 05-08-2014 02:41 PM

As of post 419

DaddyTorgo 1 - Coffee Warlord
mauchow 1 - Zinto (416)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:30 PM

Okay, well haven't missed much. My guess is that hte bad guys have a choice of night actions. Knowing we were guarding the portal, they chose a night kill. Probably if we lynch they can choose either one.

Obviously we don't have a real sense of what the problem could be by losing access to the tube longterm, or what we mgiht gain by guarding it. I'm guessing that eventually, maybe if we had that piece that's missing, we could fix it for good. Might be worth letting it go one day, but never two days in a row?

I'm not sure I understood all our options today. Going to go reread.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:31 PM

Thin ice will break of no change? That's the part I don't understand.

Do we think if the portal gets sabotaged today that we won't make it through the Tube? or we'll be stuck on the other side?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 03:32 PM

Thin Ice == If person on thin ice does not vote, he'll remove them for idleness.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:32 PM

As for riding Chief, I just rode until I could get an answer out of him. Could have been a two post ride if he had been around after his vote on day one and had just answered right away. Certainly I don't think it marks me as a wolf, as it would be easier to just sit back and not say anything in this game.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2925602)
Thin Ice == If person on thin ice does not vote, he'll remove them for idleness.


Oh, thank you, that went over my head.

Suicane75 05-08-2014 03:38 PM

Vote: DaddyTorgo

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:39 PM

I think I'm voting DT at this point. Looking at the votes he's one that sticks out to me. Jackal does, but I'm reading him as good at the moment.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:40 PM

I thought Danny had been around to vote at least. Really no votes from him at all?

Suicane75 05-08-2014 03:41 PM

I'm pretty much riding CW's analysis at this point. If we don't guard the portal tonight, what do you think the consequences will be? Seems like we're damned either way.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:42 PM

Totally forgot Murray5 was in this game.

Suicane75 05-08-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2925612)
I thought Danny had been around to vote at least. Really no votes from him at all?


He and DT both seem to be here, but not really be here.

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 2925613)
I'm pretty much riding CW's analysis at this point. If we don't guard the portal tonight, what do you think the consequences will be? Seems like we're damned either way.


My best guess is that we'll travel through the Tube, then the tube is sabotaged, nad we get stuck for a day on the other side? Conceivably it will be sabotaged before we leave and we'll have wasted guarding it yesterday.

My assumption is that letting the portal get damaged too many times will be a loss for us, but maybe that's not the case, I don't know

Autumn 05-08-2014 03:45 PM

with a game this relatively quiet I may choose to vote off the absentee players rather than kill dialogue around here. not necessarily the best strategy, but EF deserves some active players.

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 2925613)
I'm pretty much riding CW's analysis at this point.


YOU FOOL!

Suicane75 05-08-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2925621)
YOU FOOL!


Surround yourself with smart people and all that crap.

Zinto 05-08-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2925619)
with a game this relatively quiet I may choose to vote off the absentee players rather than kill dialogue around here. not necessarily the best strategy, but EF deserves some active players.



Yeah it is unfortunate that it has been so quiet. I am hoping today picks up in the next couple of hours.

Zinto 05-08-2014 05:19 PM

Alas, it seems that we don't have anymore activity.

Zinto 05-08-2014 05:20 PM

Your mayor demands activity!

mauchow 05-08-2014 05:22 PM

vote jackal

EagleFan 05-08-2014 05:22 PM

:popcorn:

murrayyyyy 05-08-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2925614)
Totally forgot Murray5 was in this game.


Well if I was at work like normal this week I would probably be near a computer. I had practically no days off for Feb-Mar-APR so they gave me a week of comp time off on Saturday (starting the following Monday). So I've basially been sitting around and doing housework. Built a grill (which of course means you have to grill now), built a cactus bed in the backyard, been to the park way too many times with the 4 year old, etc...

Then add in that a former teammate called me up on Sunday night to tell me he would be in town Mon-Thurs and I've had no night time computer time. Shouldn't have played this week if I knew everything would have gone this way. Have to pay attention to the drat tonight for work (to turn in rookie orders).

Then again I see no clues in this game. It's more like throwing darts at a board.

britrock88 05-08-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 2925650)
Your mayor demands activity!


Well, then! I'll tell you about my activity!

I have been patronizing a hot New York club called SPICY with a charming young lad named Stefon! Let me tell you, this club has a lot of peculiar and entertaining features. Human chilies, even!

britrock88 05-08-2014 05:32 PM

I suppose that's enough of a tease for now. Exit, stage left!

Autumn 05-08-2014 05:36 PM

I will stick with DT for now. Normally I'd rather have more of a conversation by keeping the race tighter. But DT is someone who has been low-activity, but has actually voted and given us some reason to wonder about him. Tomorrow I will probably be putting pressure on guys like Murray and Danny though. I know they're busy but we can't afford to possibly have an off the radar wolf.

Autumn 05-08-2014 05:36 PM

vote daddy torgo

murrayyyyy 05-08-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2925662)
I will stick with DT for now. Normally I'd rather have more of a conversation by keeping the race tighter. But DT is someone who has been low-activity, but has actually voted and given us some reason to wonder about him. Tomorrow I will probably be putting pressure on guys like Murray and Danny though. I know they're busy but we can't afford to possibly have an off the radar wolf.


First day I voted for Brit but I didn't make it a separate post so it didn't count.

murrayyyyy 05-08-2014 05:41 PM

vote daddy torgo

murrayyyyy 05-08-2014 05:43 PM

With the hidden votes out there someone has to be in the lead. Trusting Autumn and CW usually end up having me killed but CW seems to be better at finding hidden nuggets so far so I might as well trust him. (I know, horrible strategy)

Chief Rum 05-08-2014 05:51 PM

Why do we have a DT runaway in a game with very little information so far?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 06:02 PM

Clearly it's a win for the environment! Go Planet!

On a serious note, I find the number of people agreeing with me on my utterly tiny "evidence" mildly disconcerting.

Suicane75 05-08-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2925670)
Why do we have a DT runaway in a game with very little information so far?


Well we've got to pick someone, and with two extra votes out there, it'd be best to get a sizable majority to prevent shenanigans, no?

Zinto 05-08-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 2925678)
Well we've got to pick someone, and with two extra votes out there, it'd be best to get a sizable majority to prevent shenanigans, no?


Well, it is two villagers with extra votes so presumably they won't tie it. I wouldn't worry about the extra votes

Chief Rum 05-08-2014 06:32 PM

VOTE DANNY

Chief Rum 05-08-2014 06:33 PM

I am voting Danny on the basis of his lack of activity (which he warned us about, yes, but nonetheless...).

Plus, I didn't want to vote for DT, as I am not seeing the argument for it.

Suicane75 05-08-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 2925683)
Well, it is two villagers with extra votes so presumably they won't tie it. I wouldn't worry about the extra votes


I took random citizens to mean it could be anyone. Sure it's not likely, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

EagleFan 05-08-2014 06:42 PM

As of post 455

DaddyTorgo 4 - Coffee Warlord (413), Suicane75 (426), Autumn (445), murrayyyyy (447)
mauchow 1 - Zinto (416)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)
The Jackal 1 - mauchow (439)
Danny 1 - Chief Rum (453)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, DaddyTorgo, Schmidty, Danny

The Jackal 05-08-2014 06:44 PM

vote mau

The Jackal 05-08-2014 06:45 PM

Out of the three besides myself with 1 vote I'd rather see mau in the running, and not just because he voted me. He's popped in and out but I don't really recall him answering the question or two I posed, just leaving other stray comments.

The Jackal 05-08-2014 06:45 PM

But as I've said I'm fine with DT as a candidate too. Granted, the random votes make it so that we probably don't want it to be too close.

The Jackal 05-08-2014 06:46 PM

Not sure if this has been addressed .. EF - if the lynch ends in a tie because of random votes do the tie rules still take effect? Or just if we end it tied knowingly?

The Jackal 05-08-2014 06:46 PM

By random votes, I mean the random additional citizen votes.

EagleFan 05-08-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2925701)
Not sure if this has been addressed .. EF - if the lynch ends in a tie because of random votes do the tie rules still take effect? Or just if we end it tied knowingly?


A tie is a tie...

:)

Suicane75 05-08-2014 06:48 PM

eeek, hadn't thought of that.

murrayyyyy 05-08-2014 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 2925678)
Well we've got to pick someone, and with two extra votes out there, it'd be best to get a sizable majority to prevent shenanigans, no?


This was my theory. It has to be a run away vote tonight.

EagleFan 05-08-2014 06:49 PM

As of post 462

DaddyTorgo 4 - Coffee Warlord (413), Suicane75 (426), Autumn (445), murrayyyyy (447)
mauchow 2 - Zinto (416). The Jackal (457)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)
The Jackal 1 - mauchow (439)
Danny 1 - Chief Rum (453)

Yet to vote: DaddyTorgo, Schmidty, Danny

EagleFan 05-08-2014 06:50 PM

If the last vote is the additional vote and it ties it, that person would be considered having made the last vote.

Zinto 05-08-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy (Post 2925705)
This was my theory. It has to be a run away vote tonight.



My fear is, if we need a runaway vote today when won't we? There seems like there is always going to be extra votes out there

EagleFan 05-08-2014 07:02 PM

Added the anvil to the list of items.

claphamsa 05-08-2014 07:25 PM

sorry all, thought I said I couldnt play :( stupid IT rules!

The Jackal 05-08-2014 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2925703)
A tie is a tie...

:)


Dangerous. Probably going to result in some runaways that mess with voting history - but we'll work with what we've got!

Autumn 05-08-2014 07:43 PM

Well, it's not that we really need a runaway. Worst case is two additional votes on the lower vote getter, so as long as we do'nt end up exactly two votes apart ...

Autumn 05-08-2014 07:45 PM

once we're near deadline, we can probably shift votes in such a manner as to make a tie impossible. I hate to see people make it a runaway with hours left just to avoid a chance of a tie.

Zinto 05-08-2014 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2925797)
once we're near deadline, we can probably shift votes in such a manner as to make a tie impossible. I hate to see people make it a runaway with hours left just to avoid a chance of a tie.



I agree. It would be nice if the last three people come and vote.

mauchow 05-08-2014 07:55 PM

unvote jackal
vote DT

mauchow 05-08-2014 07:56 PM

With the giraffe (my son keeps callin it that) on I figure I'd get my self defense vote in now.

Jackal, re: your questions, there is not really any answer I can give you. It was just a vote that felt like a day one vote to me.

EagleFan 05-08-2014 07:59 PM

As of post 475

DaddyTorgo 5 - Coffee Warlord (413), Suicane75 (426), Autumn (445), murrayyyyy (447), mauchow (474)
mauchow 2 - Zinto (416). The Jackal (457)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)
Danny 1 - Chief Rum (453)

Yet to vote: DaddyTorgo, Schmidty, Danny

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:10 PM

Hmm, just a hunch. But makes the vote more meaningful for Schmidty or Danny if they happen to show up.

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:10 PM

unvote daddy torgo
vote mauchow

EagleFan 05-08-2014 08:14 PM

As of post 478

DaddyTorgo 4 - Coffee Warlord (413), Suicane75 (426), murrayyyyy (447), mauchow (474)
mauchow 3 - Zinto (416). The Jackal (457), Autumn (478)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)
Danny 1 - Chief Rum (453)

Yet to vote: DaddyTorgo, Schmidty, Danny

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2014 08:14 PM

Took a nap when I got home at 8, but here I am!

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2014 08:15 PM

Why are there votes on me?

I'm not a wolf y'all.

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2014 08:16 PM

Great...I don't suppose anyone is open to not voting me?

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2014 08:17 PM

So CW led the movement toward me - after I laid out some actual reasoning for voting him on D1 -- does nobody else find that curious?

If I die at least keep that in mind when I show up a villager, alright?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 08:20 PM

Believe in our environment! Believe in our Captain! Believe in our Planet!

Danny 05-08-2014 08:22 PM

I don't see any reason to change my vote at this point

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 08:25 PM

Though I find it amusing DT says I "led" a movement, when I was quite candid on exactly how little information I was going on. If DT *is* good, I'm more worried about the large number of people who came along so quick.

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:25 PM

Um, danny?

Coffee Warlord 05-08-2014 08:27 PM

Heh.

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:30 PM

now i feel better about wanting to vote him

Danny 05-08-2014 08:31 PM

vote dt

Danny 05-08-2014 08:31 PM

Didn't I vote dtearlier?

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2925881)
So CW led the movement toward me - after I laid out some actual reasoning for voting him on D1 -- does nobody else find that curious?

If I die at least keep that in mind when I show up a villager, alright?


i don't think anyone remembers what you posted on D1, DT. That was a long time ago, and you haven't posted much since.

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2925927)
Didn't I vote dtearlier?


Not that I see.

Danny 05-08-2014 08:40 PM

Maybe I typed it real quick at work but never hit submit before getting called away. I was planning to vote dt earlier today

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:43 PM

I don't suppose we'll see a Schmidty sighting.

DT, you going to wow anybody over to a different vote?

EagleFan 05-08-2014 08:51 PM

As of post 495

DaddyTorgo 5 - Coffee Warlord (413), Suicane75 (426), murrayyyyy (447), mauchow (474), Danny (490)
mauchow 3 - Zinto (416). The Jackal (457), Autumn (478)
Autumn 1 - britrock88 (418)
Danny 1 - Chief Rum (453)

Yet to vote: DaddyTorgo, Schmidty

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:52 PM

unvote mauchow
vote daddytorgo

Autumn 05-08-2014 08:52 PM

gotta get going and that should help prevent shenanigans. i'm going to look at Mauchow tomorrow as he pinged me, but better to play it safe.

The Jackal 05-08-2014 08:57 PM

unvote mau
vote DT

The Jackal 05-08-2014 08:57 PM

Just in case


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