its barkeep ;)

Sorry barkeep. :)

the barkeep is the bartender though, right?

Okay, I'm going to go ahead and post this since DaddyTorgo is a very good player and I'm sure he's already aware of the dynamics that will occur after today's lynching.

I'm most likely a goner as of tonight's night kill. That will leave us with two villagers, the sorcerer, and the wolves. Whichever side holds the tiebreaker will win tomorrow (assuming a villager picks a wolf) since tomorrow's vote will be 2-2. The wolves have a benefit of knowing about what time the night kill write-up kill will come up. Regular villagers do not. Normally, the night-kill has been coming up a little bit after the lynch write-up. I suspect the remaining wolf will hold off on that tonight to prevent what happened last night of happening again. If that is the case, I wouldn't recommend any of the remaining villagers do what I did last night as I knew that the write-up was coming once I sent my scan in. I only had to hit refresh for like 3 or 4 minutes. Since the remaining wolf can send his action in anytime he wants, it's not worth it to do what I did as you could be doing it all night.

I pm'd Barkeep a little bit ago asking if we can vote for tomorrow's lynching before the night kill but after today's lynching. If we can, we might still be able to win because the lynch write-up comes out around the same time each day. If we can, I would encourage you guys to be around so we can get the first vote in (and hopefully it'll be on the lone remaining wolf). We will have a 3-2 advantage before the night kill. If we can't or if the night kill write-up doesn't come out in a specific period of time, I wouldn't recommend that you try to guess when it comes out. The wolves will just win.

If you are a villager and DO get the first vote in, DO NOT pull off it. Leave it. It is better to be wrong and be on a villager then it is to give the wolf and sorcerer the tie-breaker.

Was the bartender you mean.

Racer, I'm pretty west coast so waiting up to me isn't really waiting up. Just a thought. End turns are only 8pm for me.

Also, just to reiterate what I said last night. The sorcerer is still in the game (confirmed by the fact Jackal is listed as the hunter on the front page). I hold the tie-breaker. Since there are two wolves in this game (stated by Barkeep) and the sorcerer is still in the game, all I would have to do if I was a wolf would to flat out come out in this thread and tell the sorcerer they need to vote with me and my wolf partner and we will win the game. However, that's not the case. I haven't done that. There would be no point in going into all the trouble I've gone to if I was a wolf because the game would already be in the bag for the wolves.

Yeah. But I'm sure you have better things to do then waiting in this thread for a couple of hours and continually hitting refresh just so we might be able to win.

Dola, night actions aren't due until like 9 am so there is a huge span of time in which the night write-up could come in (although I'm sure Barkeep is asleep for a lot of it)

Point taken.

if it gets to 2-2 the game is over, no tie breaker needed....

The game wouldn't technically be over because for game purposes the sorcerer counts as a villager (thus the ratio would be 3-1 villagers), but there is no way the sorcerer is going to vote with the remaining two villagers tomorrow. So is essence, the ratio will really be 2-2 (unless the remaining wolf does something stupid and not kill me and accidentally kill the sorcerer). If votes are allowed immediately following the lynching, it will be a pretty sweet ending to this game if the real sorcerer gets the tiebreaker vote and a villager fake reveals to be the sorcerer in order to get the wolf to kill real sorcerer so that the villagers can get the tiebreaker and win the game. I wonder what I'm recommending? :D

A little quick analysis before I go running.

PurdueBrad is an experience veteran and a very good player from I reckon. I think he's probably the the sorcerer, but I'm been wrong plenty times in the past in the games I have played. It would greatly benefit the villagers if he really wasn't the sorcerer but was pretending to be the sorcerer in order to fake the wolf. If the wolf doesn't know who the real sorcerer is and visa versa, they can't coordinate (according to the rules they aren't told who each other are). If they don't coordinate today, it's very possible they could end up actually targeting each other tomorrow which would greatly help out the villagers.

I could actually see them not killing me tonight since I would be the obvious player for both of them to target tomorrow. I think it would be very risky for the real wolf to come out and reveal himself or herself just so the real sorcerer knew who not to vote for tomorrow. The more I think about this, the more I think the villagers actually still might be able to win this thing.

I know my vote is probably the crucial one here and at this point I still am not sure. If I happened to be the sorcerer, you wolves aren't doing the greatest job letting me know who I should vote with.

wow.....

just vote with me and daddy torgo, youll be happier that way ;)

Well played Danny, I guess the cat is out of the bag that I'm not the sorcerer. I knew it was either you or Claph.

unvote DaddyTorgo

And now I have to figure out which side is the right side. :banghead:

I am.

Dream on...I still think you're a wolf! I think Danny's the actual sorcerer.

checking in before i go home - what's up?

oyyyy vey

well this should make for an interesting end of the day. i leave work in 30 minutes and won't be home for at least an hour (hour and a half if i have to walk home from the train) so i won't be back before 6:30 at the earlieste - quite possibly closer to 7:30 after eating dinner.

so if anyone wants to know anything from me now ask away, otherwise it'll have to wait till then

Well DT, what do you make of this? It's currently Danny, Axxon, and Racer vs. you and Claph. I still think Claph is wolfy but he's with you OR he's the sorcerer and he's with you. Otherwise, Danny is sorcerer and he's with Axxon and Racer. So...thoughts on all this?

Me a wolf? hhmm, maybe :)

I think so actually. Maybe. :)

I've said all along I think Axxon is the sorcerer - i'm surprised that danny came out and said he was. maybe he's the other wolf?

i'm in a jam PB - because I have to try to attract the sorcerer to my side by making him think i'm the wolf because I need his vote, since the two wolves will be voting together. you have to understand that. otherwise the seer is gone and we're in trouble.

I think you're likely wrong about claph being wolfy honestly. I think he's a villager.

You think Claphy is not a wolf? Wouldn't the fact that you scanned him make you KNOW he is not a wolf?

i'm out to go home

hey danny - i'm trying to play both sides against the middle and attract the sorcerer - i can't exactly go around making bold declarations like that

trying not to remind people of that - the more i trumpet that i'm the seer the less likely the sorcerer is to come over and vote with me, which is what i need to get rid of racer and basically lock this shizzle up for us.

I think it was an accidental slip up and you're likely the wolf.

Unvote DaddyTorgo
Vote Racer

So the sorcerer has cast his dye with DT and Claph...now are they the wolves? IF so, they still have the problem of needing my vote or Axxon's vote because Racer owns the tie-breaker.

Let me add some fuel to the fire...

vote Racer

Well I think I've said everything that can possibly be said as to why I'm good. I'll leave it at that.

if you think DT is the wolf whya re you voting for racer?

This should be a really fun deadline...I'll be around to watch for sure!

Did you miss the part where he said he's the sorcerer?

Hopefully you guys are smart and vote against DaddyTorgo in the end.

Because I need it.

Racer ( Daddy Torgo 297, claphamsa 381, Danny 431, PurdueBrad 433 )

Daddy Torgo ( racer 291, Axxon 350 )

i may or may nto be around for the deadline, i have soccer at 730 and who knows what will happen afer

this is interesting. I'd like to thank everyone for their support. I will be around

hi danny!

Hey, how you doing ;)

pretty good right now - just waiting

this is fun. I am glad I am dead, I would not know who to vote for !

hi pb

hi dt:popcorn:

bah!

:popcorn:

same vote coutns still?

I'll take some popcorn too :popcorn:

Currently:

4 for Racer- DT, Claph, Danny, PB
2 for DT- Racer, Axxon

i dunno mcollins is lookign awfully wolf like!

Yeah, I'm a goner unless you or Danny change your vote here in the last few minutes.

Or Claph if he's actually good.

dont worry im a wolf.

you're no wolf clap

i not? well crap! I got the wrong PM then...

maybe the sorcerer though

and that's why you scanned as good...hmm

danny - you the sorcerer?

hmmmm

ouch - how are you both swapping off me?

that's whack

SORCERER VOTE RACER!!!

well my goal at getting alte switch was outdoen by the sorcere :)

DEADLINE

shit

Some crazy back and fourth last minute swapping you're doing Claph. :)

WOW

yeah, im like that, usualy iu do it at the begning, but that gets me killed!

So it looks like a 3-3 tie here at the end since Claph's final vote switch came after 10 pm.

:( damn u racer and DTQ!!!!

and danny!

ballz

huh?

so who's really the sorcerer?

Wow, I'm thinking somebody got way too clever...but we'll see!

BK isnt even around....

There are three real sorcerers I think. :D

maybe four if I'm one :)

So the plan is for the three surviving players on the sorcerers' team to vote for Claph tomorrow, right?

yep, im down witht that.

Check the time stamp - it came at 10:00 pm. A GM can call deadline, but a player shouldn't. Barkeep's call.

It doesn't matter though, either way the result is the same

Okay, Claph, I'm assuming you are the remaining wolf. That was all for sure. I'm actually the sorcerer. Each night, I was allowed to scan one person to see if they were a wolf. I looked at the numbers in advance. It was all for show. You need my vote tomorrow.

coolio!

So don't kill me tonight. It would be a big mistake.

rules dont say you can scan? who else did you scan? or are you trying to play me!

PurdueBrad. So I sort of told the truth before.

where is BK i wanna go to bed!

what about the other night?: weve had 2?

DaddyTorgo. I'm just assuming you're a wolf based on your play.

Just send him your night action and go to bed. You already know the results man.

tru tru.... but i wanan see it :)