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Schmidty 11-15-2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594195)
Two questions then:

1) Why weren't you sure about night 2 actions being over?



Because I was considering revealing at that point, and didn't want to be eaten by wolves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594195)

2) Why didn't you come out and vote Thomkal right after finding out he was a wolf?


Because I didn't want to have to spend the entire day defending myself, and to see if I could hide my role with him still being lynched.

st.cronin 11-15-2007 07:39 PM

Vote count:

Thomkal - 5 - Chief Rum (357), RendeR (361), Schmidty (376), Anxiety (379), ntndeacon (388)
Chief Rum - 3 - path12 (371), jeheinz (373), Thomkal (360)

Schmidty 11-15-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 1594184)
Besides, if anyone knows me, I always play on guts, since I have aptitude for logic.


That should be "no aptitude for logic."

I hate not being able to edit.

path12 11-15-2007 07:55 PM

I think I'll leave my vote where it is. It's not that I don't believe Schmidty, but there are one of three things going on here:

1) Schmidty is on the level. In which case Thomkal is ahead on votes and we win! (assuming he's the good seer)
2) It's a play to save Chief, and Schmidty is the wolf lover and knows Chief is bad.
3) Schmidty is on the level and is wrong.

Either way, we'll find out the way the votes stand now.

st.cronin 11-15-2007 08:02 PM

deadline

st.cronin 11-15-2007 08:04 PM

Vote count:

Thomkal - 5 - Chief Rum (357), RendeR (361), Schmidty (376), Anxiety (379), ntndeacon (388)
Chief Rum - 3 - path12 (371), jeheinz (373), Thomkal (360)

st.cronin 11-15-2007 08:07 PM

Thomkal CHANGES THE VOTE!

Today's lynch victim is Schmidty.

Schmidty is one of your medics!

Schmidty 11-15-2007 08:07 PM

Wondrous.

st.cronin 11-15-2007 08:08 PM

jeheinz72 has been killed by wolves!

He was an ordinary soldier.

Day 4 begins - extended deadline, Saturday 9pm Eastern Time.

Schmidty 11-15-2007 08:08 PM

Oh well. I did my best.

Here We Go Whoever!!! Here We Go!!!!

Thomkal 11-15-2007 08:15 PM

guess the game isn't over so quickly after all?

path12 11-15-2007 08:23 PM

OK, wolf lover. That leaves ntn, Anxiety, RendeR and Chief, if you now want to assume that I was the good duke (which seems clear).

Thoughts?

path12 11-15-2007 08:24 PM

Good job Schmidty. You at least made him reveal. I need to remember if wolf lover scans as wolf or not, if not that means Pass was the correct seer and he cleared ntn, IIRC.

path12 11-15-2007 08:25 PM

Cronin, I take it that the enthusiast is human and should scan as such?

path12 11-15-2007 08:29 PM

Looking back at it, looks like Pass just cleared jeheinz and not ntn.

Abe Sargent 11-15-2007 08:44 PM

Hmm. Well, today we lost two villagers, but the added information really helps.

Abe Sargent 11-15-2007 08:48 PM

cronin, what's the schedule like for the weekend? I see Day 4 deadline Saturday? I won;t be much available then

ntndeacon 11-15-2007 09:47 PM

I have a question Chief. do you remember of any other roles that the wolf lover had, or is the danger over from him?

If he has used his dangerous weapon then we might want to leave Thomkal alone (I am assuming that though he wins with the wolfs he counts as a villager in terms of end game)

path12 11-15-2007 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1594308)
I have a question Chief. do you remember of any other roles that the wolf lover had, or is the danger over from him?

If he has used his dangerous weapon then we might want to leave Thomkal alone (I am assuming that though he wins with the wolfs he counts as a villager in terms of end game)


It says in the rules he counts as villager, so I'm not planning on voting him.

Chief Rum 11-16-2007 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1594308)
I have a question Chief. do you remember of any other roles that the wolf lover had, or is the danger over from him?

If he has used his dangerous weapon then we might want to leave Thomkal alone (I am assuming that though he wins with the wolfs he counts as a villager in terms of end game)


No, the duke role and scanning for wolves was all I had the ability to do. Realize, of course, that cronin might have changed that. Also, the wording of my PM didn't exclude the possibility of more than one duking from the wolf lover, and the game changed over before I got the chance to question st.cronin for more clarification.

Still, it seems way too powerful for Thomkal to have more than one duke ability, so I am assuming he is harmless from that standpoint now. Since he counts as a villager, none of us should be voting for him.

I will be out again all day tomorrow and unable to contribute unfortunately. So I must vote again now. I don't feel as strongly about this vote as I did the one on Thomkal, but it's the best of the options I see.

VOTE RENDER

I just get a bad vibe from some of his votes.

Thomkal 11-16-2007 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1594394)
No, the duke role and scanning for wolves was all I had the ability to do. Realize, of course, that cronin might have changed that. Also, the wording of my PM didn't exclude the possibility of more than one duking from the wolf lover, and the game changed over before I got the chance to question st.cronin for more clarification.

Still, it seems way too powerful for Thomkal to have more than one duke ability, so I am assuming he is harmless from that standpoint now. Since he counts as a villager, none of us should be voting for him.

I will be out again all day tomorrow and unable to contribute unfortunately. So I must vote again now. I don't feel as strongly about this vote as I did the one on Thomkal, but it's the best of the options I see.

VOTE RENDER

I just get a bad vibe from some of his votes.


I am far from harmless. Cronin did indeed change my powers so the former wolf lover wouldn't know everything.

Thomkal 11-16-2007 06:53 AM

Here let me help you, let me vote for a wolf.

vote ntndeacon

jeheinz72 11-16-2007 07:27 AM

Aw pickles....

Thomkal 11-16-2007 08:35 AM

Oh wait I mean to say that a wolf is:

unvote ntndeacon
vote Render

st.cronin 11-16-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594249)
Cronin, I take it that the enthusiast is human and should scan as such?


Yes.

Also, let me know what preferences you all have for weekend schedule. I will not be around tonight, but the rest of the weekend is pretty flexible.

path12 11-16-2007 09:44 AM

I'm around this weekend so any schedule will work for me.

RendeR 11-16-2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1594481)
Oh wait I mean to say that a wolf is:

unvote ntndeacon
vote Render



Ok Hoops. Whatever you say.

path12 11-16-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1594431)
I am far from harmless. Cronin did indeed change my powers so the former wolf lover wouldn't know everything.


I doubt that. And even if so, I'm more than willing to bet you don't have another duke chance in you.

Abe Sargent 11-16-2007 12:24 PM

Do we even listen to Thomkal?

Abe Sargent 11-16-2007 12:26 PM

I will be leaving to go play Magic in a couple of hours and will not be back until tomorrow. I should be around alot then, myschedule has changed

Thomkal 11-16-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1594646)
Ok Hoops. Whatever you say.


??? I don't get the reference. I take it Hoops had a similar role in another game?

Thomkal 11-16-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594683)
I doubt that. And even if so, I'm more than willing to bet you don't have another duke chance in you.


Well that's a rather large bet you'll lose then I guess.

Thomkal 11-16-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1594687)
Do we even listen to Thomkal?


Do I get a vote? I think you should. I hate talking to myself.

Thomkal 11-16-2007 01:31 PM

Perhaps there lies a wolf this way?

unvote Render
vote Chief Rum

path12 11-16-2007 02:10 PM

Thomkal has the funnest role in the game right now.

Thomkal 11-16-2007 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594853)
Thomkal has the funnest role in the game right now.


Yeah its kind of a relaxing way to play Werewolf. The good guys won't vote you off no matter what you say (some of which is true), the bad guys will leave you alone too. I highly recommend it. :)

claphamsa 11-16-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1594869)
Yeah its kind of a relaxing way to play Werewolf. The good guys won't vote you off no matter what you say (some of which is true), the bad guys will leave you alone too. I highly recommend it. :)


Im the wolf lover in another game now, and no one knows who I am, but I wanna be more involved! it is however real fun :)

RendeR 11-16-2007 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1594781)
??? I don't get the reference. I take it Hoops had a similar role in another game?



Read My signature. its based on a game a bit back where Hoops was outed as a wolf on day 2, he then announced that *I* was the last wolf.




And the rest of the players LYNCHED ME.

But I'm not bitter.

path12 11-16-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1594889)
Im the wolf lover in another game now, and no one knows who I am, but I wanna be more involved! it is however real fun :)


I hope you sign up for a game here soon!

path12 11-16-2007 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1594945)
Read My signature. its based on a game a bit back where Hoops was outed as a wolf on day 2, he then announced that *I* was the last wolf.


I can't read your sig now, once I get to the part about you being in me naked with a cock ring my eyes burn and I start throwing up.

claphamsa 11-16-2007 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594998)
I hope you sign up for a game here soon!



me too :)

Thomkal 11-17-2007 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1594945)
Read My signature. its based on a game a bit back where Hoops was outed as a wolf on day 2, he then announced that *I* was the last wolf.




And the rest of the players LYNCHED ME.

But I'm not bitter.


Yes I can clearly see you aren't bitter :)

Thomkal 11-17-2007 05:41 AM

Maybe there's a wolf over here?

unvote chief rum
vote anxiety

Thomkal 11-17-2007 11:17 AM

Oh c'mon now, we all know this guy's a wolf.

unvote anxiety
vote path12

Lorena 11-17-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1594006)
BTW, Happy Birthday to all in this thread who are having birthdays now or in the next year. Don't want to leave anyone out. ;)


Thanks path! Your birthday is a week after my son's so it'll be easy to remember :)

Oh and HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY CHIEF!!


Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 1595226)
Oh c'mon now, we all know this guy's a wolf.

unvote anxiety
vote path12


My name is capitalized

Chief Rum 11-17-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1595233)
Thanks path! Your birthday is a week after my son's so it'll be easy to remember :)

Oh and HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY CHIEF!!



Thanks DC! And to path as well, and everyone extending birthday wishes. I'm halfway to 70 now! Yay! My dribbling days are one year closer. :)

ntndeacon 11-17-2007 03:23 PM

My vote will be on one of the three that idon't know thier role...Chief Rum, Render, and Anxiety. For some reason I get a positive vibe out of Anxiety, so I wont be voting for him right now. So my choice is betwen Chief and Render. I feel Render has been more wolf like so I will go there.

Vote Render

I could easily be wrong this is more a hunch than anything else.

Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 03:30 PM

I think we are all at hunch time ntndeacon.

I feel like I should follow CR and ntndeacon. With two wolf aligned people out there, having three on a person avoids any shenanigans.

Vote RendeR

st.cronin 11-17-2007 03:54 PM

RendeR - 3 - Chief Rum (420), ntndeacon (448), Anxiety (449)
path12 - 1 - Thomkal (444)

No vote: path12, Render

path12 11-17-2007 04:29 PM

I can go with that.

VOTE RENDER

RendeR 11-17-2007 06:23 PM

Fools.

st.cronin 11-17-2007 07:52 PM

RendeR - 4 - Chief Rum (420), ntndeacon (448), Anxiety (449), path12 (451)
path12 - 1 - Thomkal (444)

No vote: Render

st.cronin 11-17-2007 08:01 PM

deadline

st.cronin 11-17-2007 08:02 PM

Today's lynch victim is RendeR.

RendeR was an ordinary soldier.

Pms going out.

st.cronin 11-17-2007 08:05 PM

Path12 is dead! Killed by wolves.

Day 5 Begins, deadline Monday 9pm, Eastern Time.

(I will accept nightfall votes.)

Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 08:08 PM

path dying is no surprise. I think any wolf would kill the cleared path.

I have no clue whether to vote for ntn or CR. Neither has pinged my wolfdar. I need to go back and read posts.

Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 08:09 PM

Deadline in two days? Dang

st.cronin 11-17-2007 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1595481)
Deadline in two days? Dang


I can do a Sunday deadline, if everybody posts in thread that that's what they want.

Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 08:11 PM

One wolf left. This should be over one way or the other today. I feel like that game where I was Ares and I got to the end and my eyes were clouded.

Abe Sargent 11-17-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1595482)
I can do a Sunday deadline, if everybody posts in thread that that's what they want.


I'd prefer Sunday, but obviously I can;t speak for the others.

Thomkal 11-17-2007 08:12 PM

Oh good, I get to have some more fun. :)

Thomkal 11-17-2007 08:13 PM

Sunday deadline is far preferred for me

ntndeacon 11-17-2007 08:39 PM

Sunday is fine with me as well.

RendeR 11-17-2007 08:41 PM

Fools.

ntndeacon 11-17-2007 08:57 PM

why, Render? cause we voted you out?

ntndeacon 11-17-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1595484)
One wolf left. This should be over one way or the other today. I feel like that game where I was Ares and I got to the end and my eyes were clouded.


It will be. this is our last chance to kill the wolf.

path12 11-17-2007 11:06 PM

Bummer. Go good guys!

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1595519)
It will be. this is our last chance to kill the wolf.


No, it isn't. Thomkal counts for the villagers in the count. We have two chances.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 12:48 AM

Well, no, actually, Thomkal and the wolf will vote out the remaining nonwolf member. Hmm...

We could vote to kill Thomkal. Won't really give us more information, but it could buy us a day of time if we need it.

I say we figure out who the last wolf is and kill him now, but if we're deadlocked, we can make the switch and give us another day to think it over.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1595486)
I'd prefer Sunday, but obviously I can;t speak for the others.


BTW, count me for Sunday as well. Two games ago, Neon kept a small remaining contingent waiting two whole days at the end, too, and that was just pheonomenally crappy. I don't want to do that again.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 01:54 AM

Okay, here are my thoughts.

On Day One, Anxiety was the only one of the three of us to not vote for a wolf.

Schmidty appears to have been the fake seer, so we get no read from him "clearing" ntndeacon. But he read Thomkal as a wolf, and he's not. The chances he got both reads wrong at random is just one in four, viewed from before knowing how Thomkal would read.

Anxiety voted on PB when it looked like it was going to be a runaway, which would have been a good move for a wolf to generate trust. He didn't automatically jump to PB from Pass that day when Pass revealed, but waited, only unvoting Pass.

Anxiety also was the last of us to commit his vote today, although I put little weight into that, because the last wolf has no bad vote.

Also, ntndeacon missed a vote, and how often does that happen with a wolf (and on a day a wolf got lynched, too, to boot)? And he put the second vote on PB on Day One, when there was no other votes on anyone. I don't see a wolf risking a Day One bandwagon like that.

Finally, just call it a hunch, but Anxiety has seemed more "helpful" to me, posting longer posts and what not. He's always helpful and puts up solid posts, but he seems to be doing more of it this game than usual. And when Thomkal yesterday was doing his little "hoopsguy" dance, Anxiety even asked if we should put any weight to what he is saying? Huh?

I'll admit nothing is ironclad, but I think Anxiety is the last wolf.

VOTE ANXIETY

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 04:21 AM

I understand that CR. If you are the last villager besides myself, then its a 50/50 shot. Now, if you are the wolf, its pick your target.

To be fair, I didn;t just vote for PB, I was one of the people leading towards PB.

I voted last because I didn;t know where to vote. Still don;t.

I'm glad your ammo is "Vote Abe, he's really helpful"

;)

Thomkal 11-18-2007 06:07 AM

I know who I'm voting for. :)

RendeR 11-18-2007 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1595513)
why, Render? cause we voted you out?




Of course. It should have been plainly obvious that I was not a wolf in this game. So painfully obvious that I simply cannot belive that anyone of you would ever actually consider the IDEA of me being a wolf to be within the utter realm of posibility.


hrm, thats a bit wordy.


Of course I wasn't a wolf, how is it you fools didn't see that?





;)

Thomkal 11-18-2007 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1595636)
Of course. It should have been plainly obvious that I was not a wolf in this game. So painfully obvious that I simply cannot belive that anyone of you would ever actually consider the IDEA of me being a wolf to be within the utter realm of posibility.


hrm, thats a bit wordy.


Of course I wasn't a wolf, how is it you fools didn't see that?





;)


I saw it! Guess I'm not a fool then. :D

ntndeacon 11-18-2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1595568)
Well, no, actually, Thomkal and the wolf will vote out the remaining nonwolf member. Hmm...

We could vote to kill Thomkal. Won't really give us more information, but it could buy us a day of time if we need it.

I say we figure out who the last wolf is and kill him now, but if we're deadlocked, we can make the switch and give us another day to think it over.


no we cant switch. there are 4 of us left. when we lynch someone that will be 3 left. when the wolf (assuming we dont lynch him) kills tonight, we are down to 2. one wolf and one non wolf. At that point the wolves achieve parity with the villagers and thus win. if we lynch Thomkal today then we are HANDING a victory to the wolves

Raiders Army 11-18-2007 02:30 PM

Dog Soldiers was an underrated movie. Wish I had gotten in on this one.

ntndeacon 11-18-2007 03:53 PM

Well time to make my guess...

Vote Chief Rum

SOrry Chief if you are a soldier.

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1595717)
no we cant switch. there are 4 of us left. when we lynch someone that will be 3 left. when the wolf (assuming we dont lynch him) kills tonight, we are down to 2. one wolf and one non wolf. At that point the wolves achieve parity with the villagers and thus win. if we lynch Thomkal today then we are HANDING a victory to the wolves


Yes, we are.

It's not much I admit, and I wish there was something better I had on any non-Thomkal player left, but suggesting it is a reason for me to be suspicious.

Vote Chief Rum

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 03:54 PM

Wow, our vote at the exact same time looks suspicios

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 03:55 PM

And kinda funny ;)

ntndeacon 11-18-2007 03:56 PM

yes I noticed it too Anxiety, but I am sticking with my vote. when I posted it I was alone as far as I knew.

ntndeacon 11-18-2007 03:57 PM

well I am off to a bday celebration of a friend.

So in case I need to, Vote Nightfall

st.cronin 11-18-2007 04:18 PM

All remaining players have asked for a Sunday deadline, so the deadline is 9pm eastern time TODAY.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 04:19 PM

Well, might as well if you're gone. Whichever of you is not the wolf, you have lost us this game. I have done nothing in this game that is consistent with being a wolf. At least I backed up my vote.

Might as well end it now...

Vote Nightfall

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1595858)
Yes, we are.

It's not much I admit, and I wish there was something better I had on any non-Thomkal player left, but suggesting it is a reason for me to be suspicious.

Vote Chief Rum


You mean like suggesting we listen to a known wolf lover? That kind of suspicious suggestion?

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1595883)
You mean like suggesting we listen to a known wolf lover? That kind of suspicious suggestion?


That was a ironic comment that I figured we all would know wasn;t serious CR.

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 04:29 PM

Vote Nightfall as well I suppose.

st.cronin 11-18-2007 04:33 PM

Chief Rum - 2 - ntndeacon (479), Anxiety (480)
Anxiety - 1 - Chief Rum (472)

no vote: Thomkal

Thomkal is also the only one not to vote nightfall.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1595893)
That was a ironic comment that I figured we all would know wasn;t serious CR.


Dude, you're in a WW game. I think you're "figuring" on your own there.

Thomkal 11-18-2007 05:13 PM

Well lets end the suspense then.

vote chief rum
vote nightfall

st.cronin 11-18-2007 05:14 PM

deadline

st.cronin 11-18-2007 05:17 PM

Chief Rum - 3 - ntndeacon (479), Anxiety (480), Thomkal (492)
Anxiety - 1 - Chief Rum (472)

Lynch result:

Chief Rum has been lynched! He was an ordinary soldier.

Night result:

ntndeacon has been killed! He was an ordinary soldier.

The game is over. Anxiety was the last wolf! I hope everybody had fun.

Chief Rum 11-18-2007 05:29 PM

Well, way to go wolves. I still can't believe after all I put out there against Anxiety, that ntn voted for me. I guess it doesn't matter now, but I would really like to know why, after all the reasons I listed for Anxiety, that ntn voted for me.

st.cronin 11-18-2007 05:34 PM

I was worried that this game would be too hard for the village to win, but it almost turned out the other way. I enjoyed running this game, and as always feedback and constructive criticism is welcome.

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 05:37 PM

Yeah, wolves got hosed early because of path's brilliant duking. I did not expect to make it this far all on my own.

Abe Sargent 11-18-2007 05:38 PM

Thomkal, you won too, right?

Thomkal 11-18-2007 05:44 PM

yes indeed I did Anxiety, congrats. :)

Passacaglia 11-18-2007 05:50 PM

Wow, close one.


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