vote CW innocent

with only one canidate I don't buy the whole "we need to kill someone" routine we always get in. There are a lot of assumptions being made and not knowing any victory conditions ect. I can't just assume he is bad at this point.

st.cronin said the lawyers will not know until just prior to when their services will be used, or at the lynch deadline.

Darnit darnit darnit. I'm about in the same state Swaggs is now...I don't have anything specific, but I feel REALLY bad about this lynch now. So, for now, at least, I'm going to flip flop. Will probably come back to haunt me one way or another eventually.

UNVOTE KILL CW

You are correct--I was just pointing it out in case anyone thinks I am changing my vote because CW hired me.

He has not at this point, but I may find out that he did tonight.

Just wanted to be clear.

Ditto my previous post. I just wanted to make clear that my motive for unvoting CW was not because he is employing me (although that may happen, I won't know until tonight's deadline).

I think it is a good bet that the traitors are randomly placed amongst us, so you are likely right about the wealth of some of the traitors. I feel like CW said something that makes me feel he is loyal to the Republic and, therefore, would rather keep him alive than to sacrifice him to learn more about the game dynamics. Nothing concrete, just my point of view.

Well, what did he say? I'd like to know as I have a vote to lynch out there. If there is evidence that he is good, I would definately consider that.

heh. and of course 2 posts before my voting to toss him off the rock, CW makes a good point about how he came out suing for personal gain in a very un-wolfy move this early in such a large game, and how with one choice we don't gain any insight into anything with the votes of him (except with as i proposed, everyone including an explanation with their vote)

He subtly used a term that was similar to what was in my role description today in one of his defense posts. After re-checking his posts from early in the game, he used it there, as well.

As I said, nothing concrete, but enough that I would not feel good about voting for him to die today. I understand the logic behind voting for him, so that we can figure out what is going on, but I feel like there is a pretty good chance that he is loyal to the Republic and in combination with his wealth, I think we want him alive and on our side.

Yes, I realize I'm actually contradicting someone who is in my corner by saying thus, but my role description was about as short, generic and vanilla as you could possibly get. It was of course, mentioned I was the Yak Overlord, but, well, yeah.

So to be totally honest, if you read into something I said and think you got some sort of role info out of it, I can't even begin to fathom what. I haven't made any subtle attempts to give out any such information (largely 'cause there ain't nothing to give out).

I was going off the assumption that, on Day 1, there were only a handful of folks that used the word "Republic" in their opening quote. Bonus for it being capitalized, as that is how it appeared in my PM.


You used the word "Republic" again in post #359.

The reason I give this some weight, besides the fact it is in my role description, is that stcronin did not use that word at all in any of the introduction posts (although he did say REPUBLICAN once). So, I think folks picking through the rules and generic descriptions would be more apt to pick out something derived from "Rome" or loyal Senator or something of that kind.

Perhaps I overthought things, but there is the thought process that, along with your post about your wealth being an asset to the Republic, lead me to remove my vote from you.

And, for what it is worth, it is also the reason I placed one of my votes on Autumn. He has been mentioning the term quite a bit throughout, as well.

OK guys i just spent over an hour catching up 6 pages of post
Im still sort of confused about the game but im starting to understand a bit more.

I have yet to be sued and would like to be sued

and ill make the following Cases

IMTHECREW SUES BULLETSPONGE
IMTHECREW SUES ALAN T

Bulletsponges inactiveness seems to be a Noobie Tarq(even though i have been very inactive but im cought up and will be around alot more)

VOTE KWITH TO CONSUL
VOTE BARKEEP TO CONSUL

Seems to be two people who will get the job done

VOTE CW INNOCENT

Dola- Forgot to say that im sorry i dont remember there Roman names i hope this isnt a problem

Wow, I obviously have a lot to catch up on since last night. I will be busy and out until this evening, so I'll try to catch up then.

i am the Tribune, so apparently, the duty will fall to me if no replacement is found

vote barkeep for Consul

vote execute CYW

sorry again CYW, but take solace that i only vote for your death in the hopes that it benefit us in the end...i really think we need to see the information that is revealed upon death in order to make better decisions in the future, should we find ourselves in similar situations.

My other vote for Consul...

Elect Autumnus Leavus to Consul

This is true, and perhaps requires clarification.

The "characters" of Swaggus Swaggus and Ardentus Enthusiastus will know they hav been hired. However, bound by confidentiality, the players are not permitted to reveal who has hired them. Thus, for gameplay purposes, the players do not know who has hired them until that fact becomes public.

Another question: If I don't get a volunteer to replace WVUFan's spot in the game, his Consular duties will be taken up by the Tribune of the Plebs, also known as Saldana. This will be for one day only, since tomorrow we will have two new Consuls.

I am hesitant about this for three reasons.

1) He wasn't the first to use it, so could have copied from someone else. (Kwhit was the first to use it, Coffee was the second I believe)

2) Cronin could have changed up wording in PMs a good bit to try to keep people from using PM matching to build trusts (Such as having varying words in different good guy PMS and having some of the same words in some of the bad guy pms).

3) I don't like using PMs to build trust lists in the first place.

You are right, he did say it though, and I hadn't noticed that before now. It was in my pM as well and I've referenced the republic alot this game in my conversation, but he did say it before anyone else other than Kwhit. I just think if we rely on that too much it will lead us in a trap at some point though. I still haven't voted for CW's being kicked off the rock, and am leaning towards not to right now, but does anyone have a vote count currently of who and how many people have voted for him?

Want to explain the reason behind suing me? You only explained why for Bullet's case.

I was trying to avoid going down this road to build trust, but since the cat's out of the bag, I did use the word Republic first - not intentionally as a ploy to communicate that I was a good guy, but if it raises some people's trust in me, so be it.

I think I'm getting Stockholm's syndrome with CW now. Someone just tell me what to think about him.

I didn't save as much time this morning as I thought, so I will have to be quick.

VOTE INNOCENT COFFEEUS WARLORDUS

I just don't think we should throw anyone off of the rock until we have at least heard some lawsuits. Alan's arguments have some merit, but they are Day 1 reasons with little evidence to give them weight. It's enough for Day Five. Not for Day One.

VOTE KWHITUS CONSUL
VOTE NARCIZO CONSUL

KWhit seems the popular choice from what I have read, so I will roll with it. Narcizo is someone whose opinion for which I have a growing respect, plus he'll probably be around when I get home.

One last thought, if it hasn't already been brought up (I haven't read the last two pages. There has been conjecture that wolves appear to not have a night kill. But we have a purchased service that is essentially a bodyguard (someone bought it yesterday and said what it was, I forget who, the legionnaire). Why bodyguard if no night kill? Ergo, there must be a night kill at some point available to the Tarqs.

If it's already been pointed out, of course, this is poiintlessly redundant.

Have a good day everyone!

After reading through all of today's messages, I'm going to have to join with those who think CW is innocent. As I said before, in this case, I don't think killing him is going to help our case. Given that we don't have free choice in our votes, voting on any one person without information is just not that helpful.

vote Coffee Warlord innocent

As for the Consuls, I have to admit I'm not sure. For now I'll give my support to Kwhit who seems to at least want the job, enthusiasm can perhaps cover over any weaknesses in his character.

vote Kwhit

Agreed with that. In fact it seems a very odd comment for Anxiety to make. How can you possibly trust someone from game to game?

OK we now have a bandwagon for voting CW innocent. I can understand that, I don't think there is any real evidence against him (that mentioned by Alan T didn't really strike me as damning at all, a fact he admits himself). However I think that it's in everyone's interest to keep the vote close - a bandwagon to free him is just as pointless as one to execute him - so I won't be moving my vote despite reservations.

I'm going to have another quick read through to decide on my second Consul vote. (although one candidate mentioned does jump out at me ;) )

Oh, nothing. Didn't st.cronin say that the guy I omitted was being replaced? That's why I didn't include him.

Ok then.

Vote for hoopsguy as Consul.

dola.

two consul votes, right?

my other vote... bah

Vote for Consul -> Peregrine

Might as well. A little nod the guy who started the entire trend here in FOF.

For the reasons I've already hinted at (I won't be around immediately after deadline) I don't think I'm a very good choice for Consul. My instinct is to trust someone who comes out and says that they want the job. I know politics teaches you that you're not supposed to vote for someone who wants you to vote for them but I think making a move for a consulship at this stage of the game would be a very bold move for a wolf. Admittedly Barkeep is experienced player who could very well make such a bold move as a wolf but if we both scan and guard the two consuls then I think we could make it a reckless move rather than a bold one for a wolf to make. To be honest I think a person basically nominating someone else out of the blue is a far more wolfish move.

Vote Barkeep for Consul

And that would be me for tonight. I really hope we have two candidates to vote for tomorrow.

vote kwit for consul

execute Cheif Rum

Ain't that odd.

I'm just sort of hopping on and off today, barely keeping up, but this vote will be recorded as a NO LYNCH vote. I haven't noticed if there are any other illegal votes or not.

BK seems like a decent enough consul candidate. I can't come up with a spectacular reason to not vote for him, at least. Woo consensus building!

ELECT BARKEEPUS...whatever whatever blah blah

I've already recieved a couple of bids for services that were available YESTERDAY but not TODAY. Please check the list carefully.

I hate it when we play games like this with PM words.

i would sue ImTheCrew, but i wonder if one of the peeps for hire can be assassins?

I'm not trying to sell anyone anything. I was asked, by Gramm, why I changed my mind and, essentially it is the first day vote here, so that was a deciding factor for me.

I have not made a plead for CW one way or another and said that I have nothing concrete. Everyone is entitled to their own vote, but avoiding the question from Gramm seemed foolish to me.

By the way, I don't like that Chief Rum came out running for Consul earlier today and then did not vote for himself. I don't think it makes him look guilty or anything, but it makes me not have faith that he feels that he will be available or up to task for the job, so...

Unvote Chief Rum for Consul

Vote KWhit for Consul

KWhit usually plays a sensible game and he has earned a bit of trust from me for being the first to mention that he is loyal to the Republic.

So, I just got back home a bit ago and looked at where we were with votes. It appears we need a majority of votes to throw CW off of the rock, so with 28 players, that would be 15 votes needed. The two consul votes I believe are the two candidates with the most votes.

Consul:

(11) Kwhit - Sndvls (283), Ardent (327), Coffee Warlord (359), Narcizo (363), Anxiety (374), Tyrith (375), Bulletsponge (395), Imthecrew (412), Chief Rum (423), Peregrine (424), Lonestargirl (431)
(7) Barkeep - Barkeep (285), Grammaticus (400), Ardent (408), Imthecrew (412), Saldana (416), Narcizo (429), Tyrith (434)
(2) Chief Rum - Swaggs (342), Anxiety (370)
(2) Autumn - Swaggs (366), Coffee Warlord (417)
(1) Dodgerchick - Alan T (333)
(1) Grammaticus - Grammaticus (400)
(1) Narcizo - Chief Rum (423)
(1) Hoopsguy - Neon_chaos (427)
(1) Peregrine - Neon_chaos (428)


prisoner vote:

(6) Throw CW off rock - Barkeep (285), Narcizo (298), Anxiety (370), DaddyTorgo (393), Grammaticus (400), Saldana (416)


Lawsuits:

Chief rum sues Lonestargirl
Narcizo sues Peregrine
Neon_Chaos sues Anxiety, Antmeister, Autumn, Barkeep, Path, Peregrine, Sndvls
Alan T sues Chief Rum, Barkeep
Kwhit sues Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo, Hoopsguy, Narcizo, Neon_Chaos, Tyrith
Imthecrew sues Bulletsponge, Alan T

My last post did not include Swaggs vote switch, but that didnt affect much as it appears Kwhit is a bandwagon landslide right now (And Barkeep is closing nearby).

I find a few people's moves today rather interesting in how they've conducted themselves and tried to just "go with the flow"

I have one more consul vote, so will go ahead and use it:

Elect Swaggs to Consul

Nothing against Swaggs, but are you sure it's wise to give the Consul powers to one of the lawyers?

Well considering I know what a Consul can and can't do, I personally don't see much that a lawyer in the position would be able to do to abuse it more. Its not like a lawyer can force people to vote for someone they arrest, and a consul is under the thumb of the tribune whom can veto one of their moves.

So far watching today closely, I just feel Swaggs has been the least self serving, has had excellent questions, answers that seemed well thought out and thus my choice. Is he treasonous? I don't know, but I hope not.

Fair enough, and for what it's worth, I agree with you about Swaggs's overall conduct.

Heh, interesting

This is what I have for Consul votes, please correct me if I'm wrong:

I don't have a strong feeling either way on anyone at the present time, but will vote for Barkeep as I feel that he is a strong player who will do the right thing in his leadership position (assuming he is loyal to Rome). And I get a slightly good vibe from him, but nothing too solid yet, unfortunately.

VOTE KWHIT FOR CONSUL
VOTE BARKEEP FOR CONSUL

And I will NOT be voting to kill CW today unless new information comes out between now and the deadline. I don't think we learn much from killing him and he has been a solid presence so far - I hate to get rid of one of the more vocal players at this point for no good reason.

Schmidtyus has been AWOLUS. I hate that the WW forum isn't in GD anymore.

I just woke up. I'm home for a bit before I go to the park with my daughter for a picnic lunch. Anyway, I seem to have a moderate amount of catching up to do, but you'll hear from me later.

While I like the reasoning used to advance Swaggs, I think KWhit is the other stronger candidate right now for consul. Therefore I will be endorsing him with my other vote.

Vote KWhit for Consul

VOTE Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus FOR CONSUL

no one else on the list screams at me to be put in this spot for today, but there is one person I'll probally vote for this job tomorrow.

Votes for Consul are every TWO days.

they know what I mean ;)

I don't have a lot of tiem right now so I'll post some quick thoughts:

More often than not, Day 1 lynches have been against villagers so I'm leaning towards keeping CW alive until we find out what happens with the lawsuits later today.

As far as consul, I'm not sure who to go with. The only person I'm 100% sure about being loyal to the Republic is me so yeah, I'll throw my name in there. Just because I'm not active doesn't mean I shouldn't be considered. One of my strong points is that I listen to what people say; but at the same time that may be one of my weakest points so do with it what you will.

I'm always leary of people who vote and run with no explanations like LSG did. I mean heck, she didn't even choose the right person to execute!

That's it for now, I'll come by later and post some more. I need to update my spreadsheet to keep track of votes and all.

So far there has been no word out there about services, other than a couple of people who have indicated that they were the people who obtained said service.

Also, I'm still very intrigued to see how the Tarq removal method comes into play. Given a single cycle, I expected to see someone die or offer up that their hired servant had prevented a murder.

I'm guessing that there will be a death or conversion attempt that happens at the 9pm deadline.

I don't think I'm getting much support on the Consul vote, so I will concede and switch to my other option:

UNVOTE GRAMMATICUS ATTICUS FOR CONSUL

VOTE HOOPUS GUYUS FOR CONSUL

Also, with the new evidence to support CW, I'm going to back off. I don't think the PM post clears CW, but it is more supportive than any lynch support:

UNVOTE COFFIUS WARLORDUS FOR LYNCH

I think it is bad not to lynch, but hopefully the bad guys will not be able to kill or have some difficulty in killing. Although I really think that goes against conventional wisdom.

I agree that they will make some sort of play at deadline. I mean they don't gain by sitting still either.

What else do you want to know this early in the day? I personally think that is too much for right now, and am a bit dissapointed at people who revealed such.

Having returned from his latest Toga party with a splitting hangover my character is very much suprised to be alive and kicking .... you lot are slipping ;)

VOTE HOOPUS GUYUS FOR CONSUL

What do you think is the value in not saying anything? If we win you would still have the day to use whatever the service does. I suppose there is the possibility the Tarqs can kill at any point in the during the day. I think that mechanic has been used in the past.

I think it only helps the Republic to know what the services does as long as the bidding and winners are not public until the service is used.

no editing posts, n00b
also you get two votes for Consul

I wanted to wait a little closer to deadline to post this, but a friend of mine is coming over, so my availability will be questionable starting in about an hour or so.

I did, in fact, hire Swaggs last night, to help me in my lawsuit. (As a side, I was informed that I can use him both for the treason defense AND the lawsuit). So, in all honesty, if there is a signifigant bonus to the lawyer's power if you are innocent (which dammit, I am), I was never exceptionally worried about getting axed. Obviously I'd rather not take the chance at all, but I think/hope the odds were high that I lived either way.

That said, I intentionally kept this info quiet to see how people lined up for/against me. I figure this knowledge would sway the vote quite a bit, so I planned on waiting till about an hour before deadline to say it. RL changed that a little, but whaddya gonna do.

So, there you go. I can field questions, if there are any, for the next short while.

So you would rather tell the traitors who has the services of bodyguards/etc so they don't have to guess as much? Instead of my suggestion from several times earlier that we inform everyone on what they do after its no longer in use?

I still am upset that some people chose to disclose they had bodyguards early on. If it was me, I would have tried to figure out some way to see if I could get someone to attack me and have a bodyguard protect me rather than just helping them know who to avoid.

I still stand by the thought that I like my plan the best, after the deadline, people can disclose information on the services they purchased, how they used it, what it did, etc. Just makes no sense giving the tarqs a roadmap for their efforts.

As for people asking when do we expect them to act against us? I already said yesterday that I expected them to not be able to kill since we had no access to services yesterday. Now today will be a different story, and since there is just one day phase, their kills (or whatever they do) will be during this same cycle we are working in. So this is an increased game of cat and mouse, where we need to pass information along to our side when it makes sense. For people with bodyguards, that means after they can't foil the bad guys any longer. I don't understand why suddenly you all are interested in having bodyguards announce their moves ahead of time.

Who are you suing again?

Ironus. Same level of money as me, I figured I'd go for the Best Damn Lawyer and try and cash in.

That was to CW.

Since you have more knowledge about how lawyers work, do you also have more information about how the lawsuits actually work? Were you required to provide any kind of information for your suit that you are using him for, or is it all done behind the scenes? (ie: you just hired the lawyer and the rest is done for you?)

I get the impression it's all behind the scenes stuff. Basically I was told I successfully have his services for the day.

To clarify, there was nothing about how it all actually goes down.

I don't think it is a good idea to announce who you are guarding. At this point, maybe not even that you won. But just because you won someone and said they are a bodyguard, it does not mean you have to use it on yourself. I could win a bodyguard and apply it to you. The Tarqs would be wary of attacking me because they know I have a bodyguard and I would likely increase the chance of a block by applying it elsewhere.

Although if I won a bodyguard's services, I don't think I would tell anyone at this point in the game. I would be concerned that I might get killed before the end of cycle and not be able to use the BG. The biggest issue is not knowing how the mechanics will work out.

I guess I'm in the minority because I really don't trust many people enough to know where to send a bodyguard other than myself.

Yeah, I can think of one or two decent options other than myself right now.

I am so freaking confused.

Buddy's here. I'll try and check in, since we're not going out, but it's gonna be spotty.

Well, if Coffee Warlord is good and he wins his suit against me then at least one of us will have more wealth to obtain services for the village. Granted, since I know for a fact that I am loyal to Rome I would rather have that wealth myself until I know where CW's loyalties are. And if I am really being inspected by the best lawyer hopefully that can help clear my loyalties in some way.

It is noteworthy that CW is in the second tier of wealth, so if anyone in the top tier had bid on the services of the best lawyer in Rome they would have beaten him. None of the three people in the top tier of wealth are pressing suit today so I don't think he is bluffing about winning the lawyer. However, if the three people in the top tier of wealth were good they still could have ensured the services of the lawyer for the village. Why did none of the three people in the top wealth tier bid on the best lawyer?

Anyone have an updated count of the votes?

Speak for yourself. I came out right away saying what mine was.

You're worrying me by making broad generalizations. First, with me and CW, now with this.

I have a second consul vote remaining, and since it probably doesn't matter at this point, I will

vote Narcizo for Consul

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of thinking things through.

This is what i have right now:

Consul:

(14) Kwhit - Sndvls (283), Ardent (327), Coffee Warlord (359), Narcizo (363), Anxiety (374), Tyrith (375), Bulletsponge (395), Imthecrew (412), Chief Rum (423), Peregrine (424), Lonestargirl (431), Swaggs (439), Kwhit (448), Barkeep 450)
(9) Barkeep - Barkeep (285), Grammaticus (400), Ardent (408), Imthecrew (412), Saldana (416), Narcizo (429), Tyrith (434), Kwhit (448), Sndvls (451)
(3) Hoopsguy - Neon_chaos (427), Grammaticus (456), Marc Vaughan (460)
(2) Autumn - Swaggs (366), Coffee Warlord (417)
(2) Narcizo - Chief Rum (423), Peregrine (479)
(1) Dodgerchick - Alan T (333)
(1) Chief Rum - Anxiety (370)
(1) Peregrine - Neon_chaos (428)
(1) Swaggs - Alan T (442)


prisoner vote:

(5) Throw CW off rock - Barkeep (285), Narcizo (298), Anxiety (370), DaddyTorgo (393), Saldana (416)


Lawsuits:

Chief rum sues Lonestargirl
Narcizo sues Peregrine
Neon_Chaos sues Anxiety, Antmeister, Autumn, Barkeep, Path, Peregrine, Sndvls
Alan T sues Chief Rum, Barkeep
Kwhit sues Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo, Hoopsguy, Narcizo, Neon_Chaos, Tyrith
Imthecrew sues Bulletsponge, Alan T

I think I need to repost this because almost everybody so far has bid for services that were available YESTERDAY:

Persons selling their services in the Forum

Maximus Maximus, ex-legionnaire
Vitus Avidus, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves
Macro Gothicus, barbarian turned citizen for his service during wartime
Balbus Senna, political philosopher from Corsica
Faustus Felix, owner of many horses
Bonus Oceanus, owner of many horses

and of course,

Swaggus Swaggus
Ardentus Enthusiastus

Some of them are the same as yesterday, some of them are not.

Bid often for my services!

Ok, here goes:

Vote Hoopus Guyus to Consul

Vote Kayus Whitus to Consul

Vote Coffeus Yakus Warlordus innocent

Sorry, I've been gone all day unexpectedly. Catching up.

Heading out to drive to the hospital. Not sure if I'll be back before deadline, so placing in my orders to arrest for tonight now. Had waited to see who voted for whom and when and most importantly why today before making my decision. I'll be back after deadline to once again give my reasons, but this time no longer as Consul.

I think this is a very good point. We should follow lots of leads and ideas rather than risking excessive focus and time on a red herring.

Well, at 4PM (CST) I didn't feel like we were that early in the day. I don't understand what the delivery mechanism is, given that I didn't succeed in my bid. Do they go into effect for the duration of the following day? For an instant in time as we transition from one day to the next?

If they have exercised a service, I would be interested in knowing if they learned something from the experience, at the very least. Because I'm struggling at the moment without a firm grounding of rules to work with as I make decisions on voting. I don't know if the Tarqs can kill or not kill. I don't know what kind of information is available with the roles.

If it is better that I don't have this information because it leaves our opponents in the dark as well then I'm fine with that reasoning. I'm concerned, however, that they have more information than we do right now and are making more informed decisions.

I feel kind of bad because I can't give this game the time it deserves with so much going on IRL, but now that I'm here, I'll do what I feel is best for the Republic.

Vote Dodgerchick for counsel
Vote Kwhit for counsel
Vote Coffee Warlord innocent

I'm voting for myself because well, I'm the only person I trust at this point.

Kwhit has been pretty out there and I doubt a wolf would be THAT bold, so why the heck not?

I gave reasons why I'm voting for Coffee Warlord's innocence earlier and I'm sticking by it.

I guess that's it for now, I'm about to go to bed and will check the thread a little at a time from work. I'm looking forward to what happens with all the lawsuits.

Ardent, you are correct. I apologize for not indicating that you were forthcoming with information. One of the rare times I've had to catch up on 200 or so posts because I was out most of the day and I missed it.

I'm going to vote CW innocent at this point in time - given the point in the day where I'm voting realistically it is a low-value vote for either side. As far as representation, I would like to see a little more competition for those spots if there is time. I haven't gotten a great trust vibe off of Barkeep so far this game.

VOTE WARLORD INNOCENT
VOTE CONSULS HOOPSGUY AND DODGERCHICK

is warlord still in any danger? i'll unvote him if necessary, but I don't want to just bandwagon onto that for the sake of bandwagoning. I stand by vote at the time it was made during the day.

Very well, I'll grant you leniency. I do recall you being in the temple all day. :)

its too bad swaggus isnt here to confirm the story of coffeeus yakus, but it doesnt appear that it is going to make a difference. although i still feel we need to lynch someone in order just to understand the mechanics at work here, i am ok with CYW being spared

unvote execute yakus

vote coffeeus warlordus for Consul

It's such a stab in the dark until the mechanics become more clear. So, the folks I've liked today:

VOTE DODGUS ERCHICKUS CONSUL. I do like the reasoning of the wealthier having a better chance to hire protection.

Also, VOTE BARKEEPUS VALERIUS FORTYNINEUS CONSUL. I trust him to consider matters carefully.

Also, I can't see the lynch value early in this particular game:
VOTE COFFEUS YAKUS WARLORDUS INNOCENT

I am quite interested to see how the lawsuits work out. I have held back on suing until that was more clear, and I didn't have a valid case to sue anyone for.

VOTE CONSUL KWHIT & NEON CHAOS
VOTE COFFEE MONKEY INNOCENT

I feel alright about placing KWhit in power right now for many of the reasons brought up previously: his early aggressive play would be bold even for a wolf, because I doubt even the wolves know how the lawsuit system works yet. The fact that he is willing to throw so many out there in the first two days gives me some reassurance. I don't have any particular insight into Neon Chaos aside from the fact that he seems to be suing some of the people that I have some slight suspicions of right now, and abstaining or voting for myself does no one any good.

Coffee Monkey could easily be bad and I am not convinced one way or another of his guilt or innocence as no info is out there. At this point I am willing to let him live in the hopes that his suit against me provides some insight into how lawsuits work, and also provides evidence of my loyalty to Rome.

Ok also ..

Vote Dodgerchick for counsel

(on the basis that anyone confident enough to vote for themselves has to be ok in by book ;) )

(or VOTE DODGUS ERCHICKUS CONSUL if you prefer)

Yeah. Me too.

:)

It is my hope that these senators help to root out the evil that still resides among us.
Vote Grammaticus for Consul
Vote Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus for Consul
Because one of the Consul was missing, I deem it unfair that he sees his demise without the same fairness that others will receive when it comes to having chances.
Vote Coffeus Yakus Warlordus Innocent

For this senator to attempt to drag my good name in the filth of pigs, I shall counter sue him to hopefully learn if he has evil intentions in his heart.
Antus Meisterus sues Neonus Chaosus

Swaggus couldn't confirm the lawsuit if he wanted to.

It'd be pretty sweet, but I'm sure even if that friggin cronin told us, he'd swear us to something stupid like a client confidentiality thing.

I'm sueing to find out who I represent.