D'oh! I nearly forgot my duty. Sorry Hoops.

I'm useless at being a wolf. That's twice I've been teh suck.

I dont htink it was your fualt.... I cant imagine it was anything other than random.

That re-entry ino WW didn't last long... :)

dola: And I didn't even get a chance to get under anyone's skin... :(



I guess I didn't have to dola as edits are okay in this thread. :)

but dolaing is fun :)

And, more importantly, increases the post count.

Do you get to post 2Xif you die then undie?

Suuuuuure it does....

I hope mccollins posts a particularly bitter post...

I made a boo boo.

Im supprised it doeznt happne more!

Haha - that stunk!!
At least I got in a parting shot before I realized I was re-dead.

So when's the next game?

pass is next, but still laive....

I'll post my rules after lunch.

I can only make this comment: it sucks being dead.

My streak of being the first wolf on my team to get lynched continues. Unless a duking counts as a lynch, but I don't think it does.

poor pass :(

I thought Narcizo was a wolf?

Right. "Unless a duking counts as a lynch, but I don't think it does."

Boo. I guess I would rather be "duked" - or whatever happened - on Day 1 than later.

*dances on your grave*

;)

I am just happy to welcome you in to this thread. It had been missing company

hoops, you could have spread that post out over seven or eight. How are we supposed to catch Maximum Football this way??

As if I'm done lamenting this death already - don't worry, I'll do my part.

I just don't want to start dropping game-specific thoughts in here when I'm frustrated about a duking.

Also, killjoy/moderator Barkeep is dead but has he bothered to join our posting pity party? Nope - clearly he is supporting Maximum Football over this epic thread.

I can't imagine how that exit must have stung.

I post when I need to vent about a death. I'm currently celebrating my early demise.

I've definitely been madder, but I wasn't the happiest of campers. Again, I'm a little leery of saying too much with the game still very much ongoing.

My 15 wolf brothers all clearly understand my pain :eek: :p

Shoot.. I was sure there wasn't more than 10 wolves.

*Rails against the injustice of it all!*

My turn. First time posting here, actually, as an early death. I have posted here before commenting along with others, but I am rarely killed early.

Just goes to show ya--present analysis, and ye will be killed. ;)

I'll just shut my trap next time, and assume what I say will just go over their heads. :D

Or you could argue correct "No Lynch" strategy and attract a super-weighted vote. That is another approach :)

Shutting your yap is, in my opinion, a deeply dissatisfying solution to the problem. Even if it is likely to extend your playing time in most cases.

Naw, No Lynch isn't any more fun than shutting my yap. :)

My point was that "No Lynch" blows - but arguing it too loudly appears to be another path to getting lynched.

I'll respect the "no edit" rule, even in this thread. The last post reads as more whiny than I meant it to be - it was meant as a light-hearted joke about paths to death in WW games.

But the point about playing cautious quiet games was serious - I don't think I would have nearly as much fun playing the games with that approach.

I agree with that. When I have a boring day at work (which happens often), I usually find myself unable to keep my mouth shut. Which is fine -- I feel like I'm just as happy reading people talk about my death instead of actually playing anyway. :) I figure anyone who's been a wolf with me lately knew that going in, and adjusts their playing style accordingly.

I'm not too involved in this game so maybe am missing something else, but my impression this would have been one of the games that I would have actually argued against a no lynch because of percentages. But I am assuming more will become known to me as the game progresses.

I agree though, if playing a game, there just is no way for me to stay quiet.. its just not fun.

Yeah, you're right. You really have to back it up to pull it off (or hoppe a more obvious candidate comes out).

Can you guys think of the top ways to increase your "wolfdar" profile in a games, besides "Hi, I'm Chief Rum, and I am a wolf."

A few off of the top of my head:

1. UTR (not just post #, also grouping of posts, involvement of discussion, impact of posting)
2. Driveby voting
3. Arguing/voting for the No Lynch

(BTW, these last two led to a funny moment in this game where jeheinz saw them in quick succession by st.cronin and Qwikshot and wondered if he had missed "Blatantly Act Like A Wolf" Day)

4. Breaking a clear head-to-head tie near the deadline and the lynch target being a villager
5. Deadline voting, really of any sort
6. The throwaway vote, especially the late one
7. The "computer problems, couldn't post" dilemma
8. Not voting for a wolf
9. Having the name Lathum or st.cronin :D
10. Steering a vote for what ends up being a villager
11. Having a high profile
12. Too noisy and present in thread
13. Caught in lie
14. Lost a dueling reveal

I'm sure there are tons more, and I am not how to even rank these.

Sorry CR. :(

Not your fault, man. You went above and beyond trying to save me. Dug that. I hope it ends up working out for our team. Thanks for the attempt and good luck.

I woudl argue that I often do #3, #4, #5, #6, #8, #10, #11, #12, #14 and have also been busted for #13 as a villager before!

I don't think advocating for lynching is a path to death. I have done it several times and never been lynched for it.

I would guess someone who normally argues one way suddenly arguing differently would cause someone to be suspicious.. but I know that going into a game with No lynch that Cronin likely will argue pro no-lynch, you will likely argue con no-lynch the majority of the time and it is what I usually come to expect. I would assume deviation from that without reason would be suspicious but not for arguing the point.

meh, not like i knew whwat was going on anywasy.

This whole "path to death" talk makes me nervous.

Hi guys! I'm on the AlanT schedule this game!

post for Hoops

So when's the next game?

no kidding!

I was not killed early, but I was killed, which makes me sad. I was enjoying that game, and I think I've only once been alive and a winner at the end of a game.

Wow, is that all? I would have thought that number was quite a bit higher.

I get lynched a lot, path.

True. You might be the most lynched player here.

That would be an interesting research subject -- who has the highest living %, lynch %, winning %, night kill %, etc. I need to quit being obsessed about Racing Breed before getting to it though.

I started to compile this information two summers ago and let me tell you even then the amount of games was overwhelming. People (and I'm as guilty as anyone) aren't good about keeping up who has died and lived. This sort of project would be best undertaken collectively, I think and still would be hard. For instance there's the relatively incomplete work on the Wiki about a lot of stuff. I don't think, however, that anyone besides myself actually uses the Wiki to look up info about games. So basically path if you do this, you'd rock.

I would help in that compilation.

I also get lynched ALOT

I get lynched a little.

Night killed or converted? Different story.

I would also help in collecting data if someone wants to organize the effort.

This is why I try to create characters when I play, because regardless of the role, I'm already in a role...however in this previous one, I couldn't find anything suitable than Sherlock without giving I felt too much away...still it's more fun, though I still don't have a clue how we play this.

To me, the wolves always have the advantage regardless of numbers. I'd much rather have a game that propels you to talk, but I realize that it's a little difficult to manage a game like that on a platform like this...

Still, coming away from this game was more interesting, because all three groups are still in a battle for survival.

Me, I'm glad actually if I'm offed before the end of the week, it's hard enough reading through all the material and then losing 3 days to the weekend to backtrack and refigure out theories. If I can come in, play the role, and do something to progress the action forward before being killed, I'm happy.

I don't think I'll ever be a good werewolf player, but I'll try to be amusing...it's far more intersting to be the sidekick than the hero.

I know it's only my 3rd game, but I'd really love to see what an endgame is like. Sigh...

Well, I'm starting it. It's a back burner thing though. BK, if you have anything you can send me with what you did so far that would be great.

I'm basically going to go through and put down for each name:

# games played
# times villager
# times wolf
# times seer
# times bodyguard
# times other roles
# times night killed
# times lynched
# times day killed
# times alive at end of game -- broken down into village W/L and wolf W/L (though now that I think about it a wolf can't really be alive at the end of the game and still lose....)

Any others you can think of to track?

How about the number of times the person is a Seer and outs all the wolves and no one believes him...

Or the number of times a wolf claims I'm a wolf to get me lynched and everyone believes them?


This game is so frustrating at times =)

Hey, you didn't out me that game! I got myself lynched earlier, without help from the seer, thank you very much!

Not "everyone" believed Jackal.

Yeah but I had you down to scan but when you got lynched it conditionally went to the next person (also a wolf). So I got you too sucka!

I LOVE the wiki and use it to get tons of background info.

I don't even know about the wiki. A little help in the right direction, please?

BTW, I'm starting backwards from the Wiki, so I just did Return to Div Nation so far.......in case anyone wants to grab a couple games and shoot me the info from them.

Check Barkeep49's sig.

Not that this helps you for awhile, but once school is out, I can do some.

I would also keep track of what day they were killed/lynched so you can find out someone's average time in a game too.

Good idea. Added.

Can I complain about missing Werewolf and the fact that my job no longer lets me play?

Or then there's Schmidty...

Vince, people play with all sorts of schedules. Deadlines aren't nearly as standardized as they used to be. I'm guessing you could still find some time to play, if you were interested in doing so. That said, I know that I have a hard time justifying jumping into a game where I can't commit a good amount of time so I'm probably the wrong guy to give that lecture.

Pinging Chief Rum ...

Same here, No matter how much I say it won't be a big deal to me to just play lowkey and catch up when I can... I know I'll end up getting sucked in when I play. So I've been trying to avoid that the past month or so while I've been super busy with internal audit stuff at work

Weak. You're just not committed. :)

No promises, but this sort of thing is right up my alley. If I get a chance, I'll try to help out, maybe start with the most recent games and work back, so that we meet in the middle.

BTW, I am killed or lynched more often than not in the long run, but I am rarely an early death, and I would say I don't get lynched too often as a percentage. Pass's game here is actually a sharp deviation from my normal game result.

Well, I read meters for the local utility company now, so I'm either driving a car or walking a neighborhood from 5 AM to 5 PM PST. I don't think it would work. I might look into it though...Werewolf was awesome, and I miss it.

Sorry. :D

This was the first time I've been lynched in a legitimate fashion. I've been duked and lynched by some weird "king of the mob" rule before but never actually been properly lynched. Woo.

Still never survived to the end of a game as a villager.

I thought that there was far more reason to be suspicious of Jackal than you but risk/reward means you have to take the seer's word for it unless there's over-riding reasons not to.

I knew there was something missing here..

I am upset that I didn't last till day 3 of the recent small game

no one did....

My attempt at comedy fails miserably evidentally!

I suck :(

Alan, stop causing problems.

I got it:rolleyes:

Placeholder, table for 1 please...

Oh man.. I totally forgot about my responsibility here.

As first one to die in the current game, here is my official I was killed early in a game and need somewhere to vent post.


How could someone possibly kill me on my birthday????? :)

That is horribly messed up Alan.

Its a trend around here

Good thing I am other-worldly and thus have no actual birthday.

Just tongue in cheek, I needed something to post here!

I would say now that PurdueBrad has been revealed as a wolf I could threaten to vote him day 1 next game, but I've voted him day 1 the past two games already.. so fair is fair :)

It really wasn't nice to kill me given the fact that it is finals week where I teach and I only have 2 finals to give. It means I have to sit around for four days doing nothing, jealously watching you guys play WW. I guess I'll just go back to watching a replay of last night's hockey game.

Listen, you don't get to complain after that victory.

'Spose I earned that one.

Thought I had a chance there for a bit.

Sad thing is, with my vacation coming in 2 weeks, looks like I'll be sans WW for likely the rest of June. *sniffle*

thats what you get for takig vacations!

Maybe you should have played a more low key game and you might have survived longer.. like me!

Ha yes, the low key game isn't one I've ever really pulled off.

All of your flailing made me think you were a wolf even more!
It always rubs me the wrong way when people say "I know I'm good"