Whether we consider him an original or a convert makes a huge difference in the interpretation of the Day 1 votes.

But the question is, why would the aliens convert a guy who was getting lots of votes early on? It seems more likely that Blade was originally an alien and got his grunt description from whomever he converted rather than him happening to have been converted.

That feels good.

OK, so next steps - hope we get positive ID on the alien type tomorrow?

Assuming that doesn't go down, do we
1.) Keep the spotlight on the two remaining guys (Peregrine and Neon) fingered by Qwikshot? If we bagged an alien tonight I don't see any compelling reason to focus more or less attention on either of them.

2.) Closely examine the Swaggs bandwagon that had started up? (Peregrine, Vince, Neon, JeeberD) - fizzled when Qwik broke up the party.

3.) My original plan to flush out people backing Blade on day 1 - MrWednesday, Qwikshot, and Fouts? Doesn't seem as compelling with one known good guy in Qwikshot.

My first instinct would be #2 on this list but I expect you will find me a little less stubborn from here on out ... not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Have you already forgotten that I was trying to get Blade lynched early on?

lol, last time i ever go to work again during a game...shame too, as in doing so ive let the group make a fatal mistake...but fozzie said no revealing of roles, so ill bid you good luck and adeiu

Call.

If I can be protected tonight, I may have that info.

Definitely, the "Blade as original baddie" theory is bad for me, considering that I cast what proved to be the decisive vote for Schmidty. Now, I said I was willing to change my mind (which you may or may not believe), so the follow-ons by Fouts (?) and Qwik (known to be a good guy) also become fair game...

So, would voting for Fouts convince you that my vote for Schmidty was innocent? Or do we take a closer look at the day 2 voting? That was basically a complete mess up until Qwik's revelation.

Jeebs, don't take it personally - yet :) Just listing the names with each of the theories I'm mulling. I'm hoping multiple people will join the discussion and present some alternate targets besides Qwikshot for tonight. Long shot, I know ...

Dola ... (first dola ever, following first werewolf accusation, and 500th post - monumental FOFC day for me)

Another idea here is to look for coalitions forming - either unnatural closeness or animosity between players seems like a good pattern. I've got one idea forming in this area that I want to stew on and check out a few posts to see if there is anything resembling fire where I think there is smoke.

Jeez, don't use my life to make deals. I voted for Blade pretty quickly yesterday.

If you really want an alternate target, I'd think it would almost have to be somebody non-controversial -- controversial players are better for the enemy because they draw votes. I'm not sure how much mileage we can get out of that.

Sorry Fouts, I hadn't paused to look at my crib sheet to see how the Blade bandwagon developed. You're right, of course -- you were the second one to vote for Blade.

It's looking an awful lot to me like the aliens never needed to step in to rescue Blade in Day 1 -- we did it for them. :(

I'm still trying to figure out why Mr. Wednesday was so active, but chose not to vote. That is kind of weak, in my opinion.

It would be one thing if you abstained in order to preserve or create a tie, but to not vote because you do not want to draw attention to yourself is pretty poor. No one wants to draw attention to themselves.

I laid out my reasons in the post where I said I wouldn't cast a vote. I was trying to find a good reason to vote for someone, and then all of a sudden there was a hog pile on Blade, which made it fait accompli. At that point, I thought a vote (which would either have piled on further, or been a useless vote for someone else) would do me more harm than good, so I didn't cast one. Maybe that was a misjudgement on my part.

Ok folks, I'm taking one of those magic pain-b-gone pills and I will be out cold till morning. Folks who I have sent night action results to, please do not post ANYTHING in this threadabout what you have learned until morning when I post the Night results.

Thanks :D

That's an interesting analysis about Mr Wednesday, Swaggs, I might have been wrong about you. I'm going to have to go over things again... read and re-read things, re-analyze. My head's spinning right now thinking of who might be aliens other than Blade. I'm posting some kind of analysis later.

So ... anyone want to play the 'lets rank everyone on likelihood of oozing black' game? Werewolf tradition usually dictates someone rolls a list like this out by now ...

I'd guess I'm pretty high up on the list of suspects, even though I'm just a grunt and I've tried to be as helpful as possible throughout. I have the misfortune of an ill-timed vote on day 1 and an ill-timed non-vote on day 2. (And let's be honest -- would the analysis be significantly different if I had cast a 6:50 pm EST vote for Blade?)

My god, three pages while I was out this evening.

Hookay, trying to sort this mess out.

Well, I've read and re-read the thread. I think that several suspicious characters jump out. You certainly can't discount me or Peregrine. Blade being an alien certainly doesnt discount one of us, or both of us being aliens. I do, however, know that I'm not an alien... no point in trying to convince everyone else, since all I've had to say is on the table.

I'm doing another inspection today. I'll be out of the office for most of today, but I'll be checking in now and then to figure this out.

The night passes quickly..

Only 12 of you warily poke your head out of your rooms the next night. You do a headcheck several times, and finally, it becomes obvious, that PEREGRINE is not amongst you this morning.

Finally, someone breaks the lock to Peregrine's door, and it's quite obvious that the aliens were mad.. the still-smoking hole in his chest from a plasma gun shot was obviously fatal, but theh aliens apparently fired several more times.. working off some frustration in the process.

The Hall of the Departed
Schmidty (Day 1, Blasted by Group Decision)
Blade6119 (Day 2, Blasted by Group Decision)
Peregrine (Night 2, Blasted by the Alien Front)

we are now in Day 3. All information given in Night 2 now is in play.

Votes to blast are due by 8 PM EDT.

DD: (Double Dola): Oh yes, and the part everyone wanted to see..

ECTOPLASMIC SOURCES: FOUR

Peregrine seems like an .... interesting ... choice. Would have bet money on it being Qwikshot.

No reveal on Blade as the Chryssalid versus a random alien. Figured but still disappointing.

Vince, looks like we were both wrong to be sniffing around Peregrine. I had actually started to think that you both were aliens and were playing off one another yesterday.

Qwik, can you view Peregrine's room today to help us with this decision or is that a night-only action?

Where to go from here ... this is a summary of my thoughts from last night:

1.) Keep the spotlight on the two remaining guys (Peregrine and Neon) fingered by Qwikshot?
2.) Closely examine the Swaggs bandwagon that had started up? (Peregrine, Vince, Neon, JeeberD) - fizzled when Qwik broke up the party.
3.) My original plan to flush out people backing Blade on day 1 - MrWednesday, Qwikshot, and Fouts?

If we go with #1, then Neon is the only guy left scoped out by Qwikshot.
#2 - Peregrine was the first guy to cast a vote for Swaggs. Do we think that the people who started moving towards him are aliens?
#3 - Since Qwik is a guaranteed good, that leaves MrWednesday and Fouts. Based on voting patterns (compiled by MrWednesday, interestingly enough) that leaves MrWednesday as a bigger suspect than Fouts, who I'm pretty sure was the only guy with me on the Blade bandwagon prior to the Chryssalid revelation yesterday.

Neon shows up on lists #1 and #2 - random chance? Indicator of guilt? If I'm looking for reasons for the aliens shooting Peregrine last night, then maybe it was to make Neon look suspect?

Guys who are not on any of the lists I'm putting forward:
Kingfc - pilot?
Digamma - no strong feelings either way. Played it pretty close to vest as Camp Leader in the last werewolf game I was in with him.
Swaggs - got nothing except voting against me early yesterday.
Coffee Warlord - nothing
Raiders Army - nothing, except that he is paranoid? Not exactly a hanging crime in this game ...

A couple of other random thoughts:
1.) Does it make sense to us that the convert would outlive his master? Probably, but just throwing it out there.
2.) I'm very curious if someone thwarted an attack on Qwik last night - I bet we were supposed to find two corpses this morning.

Edited to remove double entry for one member.

Night only action...but I think Blade was the head cheese.

Hmm, I have to say I'm not too surprised. Good luck guys!

Qwik, any reason for thinking Blade was head cheese and not the Chryssalid? I didn't see anything that indicated one way or the other in your PMs with Fozzie or the description of Blade's death.

If Blade was the head cheese or any type of non-Chryssalid alien, then we put Neon in the line of fire this morning. No muss, no fuss.

Neon, I see you lurking in the thread - now might be a good time to offer up a defense if work/sleep and time zone differences are going to take you away later.

Oh great. Did I piss anyone off? Come on. I'm digging back to see if there are any clues as to why they killed Peregrine (other than the obvious fact that I'm going to be up the chopping block next.) :(

Vote Neon_Chaos

Trust me. I positively guarantee you he is the Cryssallid. I have total proof that, when combined with Qwik, confirms that he that egg laying scum.

Kill him.

Total proof - please elaborate. I'm ready to join you in an early vote here if Qwik is with you and this is compelling.

The worry I have is that everyone is going to be with Qwik for the remainder of this game. He is confirmed good, so if you can find a way to line up with him it is terrific cover. But he said earlier that he could not use his power to view Peregrine yet.

Qwik, were you able to divine information from Blade? If so, then I have read your role incorrectly because it read to me like you only benefitted from visiting dead soldiers, not dead aliens.

I haven't heard much from you, CW, and you post this?

I've been rereading this thread for some clues from Peregrine... I come back to post something pretty lengthy... but then I see this.

I have no other choice but to profess my innocence. I'm not an alien, let alone the Chryssalid, I thought Blade was the Chryssalid?

Whatever proof you have, you know I probably won't be able to disprove it. I have nothing else left to give but my word. You do know you're taking a big risk here, and I don't know what you aliens are up to... because if I get voted off, killed and proven the next day to be human, you're going down next. I did this once before, because I know I was innocent then... I'm innocent now.

Vote Neon_Chaos :(

I'm saying I think he was the head cheese, the Chryssalid. There was an interesting view of his room.

I'm thinking Peregrine was a guard, and therefore, hit first, so I can be killed.

Here is the role information as posted earlier.

Qwik, obviously I don't want you to post any text you have on Blade's role - SirFozzie would be peeved - but did you extract info on Blade? If so, does it distinguish the leader role from the Chryssalid? My X-Com knowledge is a little hazy, but I thought the Chryssalid was pretty far up the food chain.

I'll join the early bandwagon until given a reason to jump off, but I would like to see some more info from CW/Quik.

Vote Neon Chaos

OK, so was there anything related to Neon or anyone else that you saw in that view Qwik? If not, I'm going to step back from the early vote right now.

Edited - typed Peregrine instead of Neon originally.

The aliens know my role, so there is zero harm in me declaring this.

I was keeping an eye on things two nights ago, when Qwik discovered there was a Crysallid amongst Peregrine, Neon, and Blade.

As it so happens, I heard very similar shrieks of a Cryssalid infecting someone. A detailed study of three people, and they showed clean to me. I knew, from other sources, that Peregrine was not an alien. Blade, although he was an alien, was not a Cryssalid.

Essentially, I know Blade and Peregrine were/are clean (okay, Blade wasn't clean, but he was a different KIND of alien.). Neon is your man, unless I've totally missed something. But, I'm positive I have not.

For now, I'm going along with CW. I might rethink this later, though.

Vote Neon_Chaos

So you were also able to hear the conversion and query three people? If so, do you feel like clearing anyone at this point?

Do you have a different role from Qwik or the same role? Not asking you to name it if it is different but this explanation seems to indicate you both had the same ability to narrow down on a conversion, suggesting overlap at least.

How do the aliens know your role? And if it is a threat to them why have they not targeted you?

Finally, do you know what type of alien Blade was? Because if I'm reading Qwik correctly he thinks that Blade was a Chryssalid.

The reason Blade is not a Cryssalid is because I ALSO scanned Blade, and he was not a Cryssalid, at least in my mind.

And no, I will not clear anyone else, for one very good reason. Since I inspected Blade and he showed clean to me, but was, in fact, still an alien, god knows what the rest of the people I looked at are. Though I believe they are on our side, I can't be certain.

Dola. And no, I have an entirely different role than Qwik.

If this version of the game is true to the video game, Blade has to be either a Chryssalid or a Chryssalid zombie -- no other alien is black or has black blood (to my knowledge anyways).

Sectoid = Grey
Muton = Green
Ethereal = Red
(I can't remember the name of the flying guys) = Red
Chryssalid = Black

So I don't know about CW's "not Chryssalid" thing, but my analysis is hardly fact either. Also, 'the aliens know my role' either means that they have somehow identified him, or he has an identical role to Qwik, as I've not heard of any other roles in the game yet.

In the X-Com video game, Ethereals and Sectoids had pretty powerful psychic abilities -- there's probably at least one of them who can divine our roles. Not sure how CW would be aware that that had already happened...

But right now, CW has some pretty damning 'evidence' against Neon_Chaos -- if we take him at his word. I'm not quite openly questioning it, but I'm not blindly accepting it yet either. I'm going to see how this plays out.

This would make it appear as though Blade was the zombie. Your argument would be that Qwikshot was looking for the head honcho, rather than the offspring, in which case it would have been just lucky that we happened to get Blade in the sweep: the one identified by Qwikshot was actually Neon_Chaos.

Qwik, do you have any thoughts on Neon vs Coffee? Right now it looks like one of them (Neon) is heading for a lynching. Although earlier Coffee thought that both Blade and I were good guys (sigh)

Now that I'm typing this ... Coffee, earlier you had said that you thought that both Blade and I were on your side - this makes sense in light of the fact that you scanned Blade and he didn't come up as a foe. Did the other two cleans scans come up as identical to Blade? And are you scanning explicitly for the Chryssalid? Just trying to figure out why an alien would not register if you did scan a known alien. I don't want you to let a cat out of the bag here, but if the aliens already know your role as you stated then I hope I'm not prying too deeply here.

Or did you scan him the first day and perhaps Blade was the convert - clean then and claimed the next night?

Also if that's correct (that Blade was the zombie), it means there's not much to glean from the voting results on day 1 because both bandwagons were on innocents.

Thanks for pointing that out, Mr. Wednesday :) No selfish motives there, I'm sure.

I'm confused...why did Neon_Chaos vote for himself?

Also, why should we trust you Coffee? Could you be trying to ride the tails of Qwik's veracity? I've got to read through the thread again when I have more time, but I'm not entirely sure Neon_Chaos jumps out as a bad guy...

I was thinking that Vince and I would be suspected more since we voted for Peregrine yesterday, and now he's dead.

Coffee can you tell us a little more about your role?

Particularly, I'm interested in your statement that the aliens know who you are. How do you know that?

To paraphrase from what input I got:

Room reeks, black ooze about (jeez how could x-com soldiers not notice that unless Blade was always stinky?!?)

Diary present, but in alien.

Verdict: Blade was a boss alien.

I am in doubt of CW's veracity.

When did calling suspicion on yourself become a fad? First Neon votes for himself - huh? - and now RA says that he and Vince need a little more attention?

Here is what I feel that I know in the game:
1.) Schmidty was a grunt
2.) Blade was an alien
3.) Aliens killed Peregrine
4.) Qwikshot is a human, with the role of Jack of All Trades
5.) There are still four ectoplasmic sources, same as what we started with but with two less human

Here is what I suspect at this moment:
1.) Either Neon or Coffee is going down today
2.) One (or more?) of those two is an alien
3.) Mr Wednesday feels really badly about voting for Blade on Day 1

Why would the aliens take out Peregrine if Neon was an alien? Wouldn't that just put Neon more in danger of geting lynched since he's now the lone person left from Qwik's list?

Unvote Neon Chaos

Coffee had positioned it initially that his info coupled with Qwiks, would be 'total proof'. If Qwikshot is doubting, then I'm withdrawing my vote. Barring a totally shocking revelation like yesterday it will be going to either Neon or Coffee at the end of the day.

Interesting stuff...

Here's what all I can say.

Night zero, I felt mind probe after mind probe scanning me. I thought it a safe bet at that point that at least one of these scans were alien in origin.

Night one, I found myself a scrounged rifle, leveled it at the door, and was ready to kill any sucker who dared open it. That night, noone came, but I heard the sound of a Cryssalid attacking someone. There were three folks in the vicinity, and my long time fighting for X-Com gave me the knack for discovering who was acting strange. Blade was one of the people there. He was, in my veteran mind, absolutely NOT a Crysallid alien. Therefore, Peregrine or Neon is, in fact, a Cryssalid.

To expand further. I received another mental image that Peregine was a loyal X-Com soldier. This I believed fully, and I think it's been proven.

This last night, I found myself a nice corner in which to pick off any aliens daring to attack Qwikshot. Pity I picked the wrong guy. However, it gets strange now. Apparently, there is a rift in the alien's plans, for someone in the shadows whispered to me that the aliens know who I am. It seems they are NOT acting in unison anymore.

And there you have it. Doubt me at your peril. I survived Cydonia, I'm gonna survive this.

Qwik's doubt of CW's veracity is quite a damning blow -- Qwik's the only one we can all trust.

I have to reread everything, but I am positive that Blade was a boss, just not sure if he was the Chrysalid (spelling incorrect I know, I'm sorry).

I found Neon's voting of himself odd.

But then again, I was only to confirm whether or not I had the chrysalid not whether or not I had more than one alien in the 3. So it is very likely that Neon could be an alien still.

It could be also that the aliens murdered Peregrine even though they converted him, to throw us off Neon's trail.

I won't know what Peregrine was until night actions are done...if I survive that might ultimately clear up things.

But I'm wary of CW and Neon still.

I doubt it -- I'm still reasonably sure (though CW is doing a good job of changing my mind) that blade was the bad guy -- therefore 'clearing' the other two. Whether or not that really clears them is up in the air, but from the aliens' point of view, if Neon is NOT an alien (and the aliens SHOULD all know who each other are), then killing Peregrine would be a great way to kill two birds with one stone, by making Neon an easy target -- especially if they implicate him themselves.

If our circumstances are as dire as they seem (4 on 8 or so), this could be a brilliant ploy by the aliens. We kill an innocent, they kill another tonight, and all of a sudden it's 4 on 6 (I haven't checked the exact numbers in a while, but you get the gist).

I'm still not sold on Neon or CW, but his latest post which goes into more detail is really intriguing.

To clarify -- I mean that we might have gotten 'lucky' and Qwik looked at more than one alien in the group of Peregrine, Blade and Neon.

Here's what I can say to back up CW--and my question in post #450 was meant to get something like this out of him after his post that Peregrine was clean.

I received the same vision about Peregrine. The vision said something like Peregrine was X-Com through and through.

Considering that I'm one of the good guys, my selfish motives are at least somewhat in accord with the goals of the rest of the group. I assure you, if I'm trying to save my own neck, I'm going to try to do it by getting an alien.

Close. I feel bad about voting for Schmidty on Day 1, all the moreso considering that Qwik is now saying that Blade was boss alien.

Unvote Neon_Chaos

Digamma, do you have any other information to share, even if it's little and possibly insignificant?

Oops, sorry about that Wednesday - have flip-flopped names a couple of times in posts and that is the first one I have missed. My bad for trying to crack one joke in my lists.

Just doubting you, but not discounting anything that you said.

It would be easy to go back and recount what happened before since you have the benefit of already knowing what Blade was. As far as what happened last night, it sounds plausible, but I'm not sold yet.

I can see the aliens deciding that Qwikshot might be dangerous to attack last night if there was a hunter out there. I'm just not sure why they would go after Peregrine if they thought it would endanger Neon.

Coffee, if you are making a move here you are doing it very, very well.

I think the only reason they DO go after Peregrine is BECAUSE it would endanger Neon.

At least, that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

The paranoia is palpable right now.

I hope it lasts... :D

(OOC: It's fun to take a 10 minute chunk of time every hour and a half here at work to catch up on the thread. That's about the only reason I didn't offer to stop the game after the clusterF*ck last night. Please, keep it up)

Neon Chas voting for himself is just plain peculiar. You do realize that you are voting to kill yourself? So, it is not the best time to make a protest vote here.

I'm looking hard at two guys who have flown under the radar.

It's a strange choice, because Peregrine was attracting some suspicion before last night -- you'd think it would make more sense to off one of us that hasn't really caught any attention, and so is less likely to draw lynch votes. On the other hand, maybe there was some concern about his inside knowledge from running version VI.

Agreed. It's definitely not the choice I would have made...we just need to make sure we interpret it correctly. I think their line of thinking is that there are multiple ways Peregrine's death can influence us -- his death implicates not just one, but three people:

1) Neon_Chaos, especially with CW's info
2) Raiders Army (voted for Peregrine)
3) Vince (voted for Peregrine)

Other bonuses:

1) Peregrine knows what he's doing -- he's run this game multiple times, and he is a savvy individual. Eliminating him eliminates someone who could be 'more' of a threat to the aliens.

2) Eliminates the idea that once Blade is dead, Neon Chaos and Peregrine are in the clear. If Peregrine wasn't killed, I think there's a very good chance that most people would consider Peregrine and Neon_Chaos at least very strong candidates for X-Com agents. This idea is only valid if Neon_Chaos is indeed a good guy. I can't stress enough that the bad guys should be able to communicate and strategize -- they know who IS and who ISN'T an alien, and therefore they can ostracize and target individuals who they are CERTAIN are good guys.

Negatives:

1) Eliminates someone who was already slightly suspicious. With Raiders Army and myself already voting for Peregrine, they eliminate someone who might have found the hangman's noose without their help.

That's about it for the negatives (that I can see anyways). My thoughts are we have either one of two things...

A) Coffee Warlord is telling the truth, and Neon_Chaos is a bad guy. That leaves three other people who are bad guys, and also somewhat clears digamma (claiming to have a similar message that Peregrine was good). If this is the case, both CW and digamma have specialized roles other than grunts.

B) CW is telling the truth, Neon_Chaos is a bad guy, but CW is a bad guy too. Like I said before, I believe our circumstances are pretty dire right now. If the aliens could sacrifice one of their own to get a 'guaranteed' good guy in CW (who is in fact an alien), that would be a huge advantage for them. And since we're pretty low on good guys, this seems to be a very valid strategy.

C) Coffee Warlord is lying out his ass, and Neon_Chaos is a good guy. This strategy seems completely and utterly foolish, because as soon as we find out Neon_Chaos is a good guy, CW is toast. One-for-one is good enough for the Aliens at this point, especially considering their numbers...but I think they'd want to do better than this.

I think A and B are much more likely scenarios than C.

I can say that he was NOT converted. My night 1 action allowed me to know this information. That is as much as I want to reveal right now.

I am leaning towards Coffee being a bad guy. His information seems too pat, especially on the heels of Qwikshot's information yesterday. It's like he wants to ride the wave so we vote towards Neon. I just have a bad feeling about this...

Since it's 3:46 in the afternoon, at this point I have two suspects:

Neon_Chaos and Coffee Warlord.

I think that Vince and I should be up there pretty high as well, but I'm going with those two for right now. Neon voting for himself seems really odd (as I said quite a few posts ago). That really makes it seem as if Coffee and he are in cahoots. Because I'm somewhat of a rebel, I won't give him the satisfaction of voting for him. I'm going with his brother-in-arms:

Vote Coffee Warlord

(this, of course, is subject to change)

BTW, I just saw Jeebs lurking without posting...I wonder why he's always so quiet. I've played this game with him a couple of times and he's consistently been that way...alien/creature/wolf or not.

Actually, I haven't been a bad guy yet, so who knows if I would be as "quiet" if I were... ;)

I was just in the thread to read the new posts...do I have to post every time I come into the thread?

Well, now that Peregrine is dead I decided to go back and read on who he was questioning. Post 364 was directed towards Vince and then he responds by making a statement about Peregrine not lasting the night.



Then in post 378, Vince again says he's pretty sure that at least one good guy will be dead and that we might be lynching a good guy (blade), when Qwikshot already had pretty damaging evidence that he WAS a bad guy and not a good guy.

Well, you post in every other thread on FOFC. :)

Oh, and this makes perfect sense to have Neon_Chaos sacrifice himself to make Coffee Warlord look good. Then we believe him as much as we do Qwik. Sacrifice one to take the rest of us out. I'm guessing that's why Neon_Chaos voted for himself.

Only in 21 of the 50 in the front page... :p

Well, the Neon_Chaos vote for himself is actually something that I think devalues that theory. It's such a strange move...why is it there? Red herring?

Is it like the last time he pulled this stunt, that he's telling the truth, and is willing to put his own life on the line to have us believe it? Or is it the complete opposite, that he's trying to get us to believe a lie?

With so many people left, I don't see the logic -- last time there were only a few people left, and it was a clever ploy that helped to identify his role. Here...not so much. I still don't know what to make of his vote for himself.

Vote Vince

Raider's and Vince seem to be pushing too hard to kill off CW and/or Neon and both voted for Peregrine. I'm going to believe digamma for now and that makes me not want to vote for CW.

RA did not vote on Day 1, so we have no paper trail there. Vince voted for Swaggs on day 1, casting the lone vote there, but at a time when only lone votes for Schmidty, Digamma, and Blade had been cast.

Stuck at work and haven't had time to really chew the fat on this one much this afternoon - feels like I'm going to have to make a rushed decision. Yuck.

I wonder if that is one of the reasons they are putting Neon out on an island - they know he is in a different time zone and won't be around much during the day to defend himself. I would feel better about this line of thought if Neon had offered a stronger defense for himself.

The main problem I have at the moment is an incongruity between Qwikshot's report, which suggests that Blade was always ectoplasmic, not turned, and CW's report, which suggests that Blade was in the clear, at least at some point.

I'm not clear on whether that implicates CW or not. It's a fine line, between a healthy amount of suspicion to try to suss out the fake "revelations", and honest mistakes.

Dola, and things that simply aren't revealed about the limits of CW's capabilities.

Understand, my information on Blade is simply thus. He was not a Cryssalid. There are obviously other types of aliens out and about here.

So we're back to square one here. I'm 75% certain that if this doesn't come off correctly, I'm after CW tomorrow.

Vote Neon_Chaos

Er, not square one, but you get the idea.

Let's see how many posts this thread gets on the commute home. Kerpoof.

Sigh...I think that CW is kinda suspicious, but I don't have anything better to go on right now.

Vote Neon Chaos

I'm curious if anyone else has felt anything like this at night--i.e., whether it might be specific to CW's role or what.

Anyone?

I'd tend to think that it is specific to his role, but I could be convinced otherwise by someone with better knowledge of the X-Com universe.

I haven't felt a damn thing. Either I'm very uninteresting, I have no talent for it, or they already know what I am. (Obviously, I'm going to claim that it's one of the first two.)

I don't see anything that is an obvious hole in Coffee's story - should that be reassuring or comforting? I would rather someone is certain than uncertain about an opinion - the aliens are doing their job if they are leaving us guessing - but I'm just having a hard time letting go of the 'total proof' statement citing his tie-in with Qwik and then having Qwik question Coffee. And Qwik is the only guy that I KNOW is telling the truth around here.

Is it the references to Cydonia? I know it was invoked in the grunt description, but I just got the impression that Coffee has spent some time polishing his 'role' ... both a bodyguard and able to scan people - that is either one badass role or bullshit.

This is a big vote, guys. Even though I'm a Neon lean right now, I'm pretty sure that we would be happy tomorrow morning if we forced Coffee to eat plasma tonight.

Wish Peregrine was around - I'm just about positive that I'm missing something and he was a good option for kicking ideas around.

Swaggs - you have anything new to add to the conversation other than the vote? Haven't heard much from you at all today.

Woke up early for this.

For the guys who asked why I voted for myself... it's because it's the only way I can show that I'm not an alien. Seems like everyone's jumping on the bandwagon, don't it? Well... I'll at least try to put up a fight, wouldn't want to go out like a punk. I don't know why you're pushing hard to kill me, but you're going down tommorow anyway, CW.

The only reason I can see CW doing this, is that either he's probably got a role similar to the Wild Wolf? Perhaps be able to kill someone when he gets lynched as well? If that's the case, and I die tonight, the aliens kill someone else tonight, and CW dies tommorow, and they kill another guy tommorow night... they effectively have a 1-4 kill ratio advantage.

Other than that... I have nothing else. :(

Unvote Neon_Chaos
Vote Coffee Warlord

I'm so confused.