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stevew 05-16-2014 04:24 AM

Nobody wants to run in our house district as a democrat. The only guy to make the primary ballot with enough signatures is 26 years old. Granted it's a losing proposition most likely. I think it went D 1 time in maybe the past 18 cycles or so.

nol 05-16-2014 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungs (Post 2927774)
The job market must be picking up. The homeless guy that's been living in one of my sheds for the past three years found himself a job.


That's nothing, my best friend's sister makes $67 /hr on the laptop . She has been out of work for seven months but last month her pay check was $12263 just working on the laptop for a few hours...

Thomkal 05-16-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nol (Post 2928172)
That's nothing, my best friend's sister makes $67 /hr on the laptop . She has been out of work for seven months but last month her pay check was $12263 just working on the laptop for a few hours...


I think we need to know is what company and are they still hiring? :)

sterlingice 05-16-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nol (Post 2928172)
That's nothing, my best friend's sister makes $67 /hr on the laptop . She has been out of work for seven months but last month her pay check was $12263 just working on the laptop for a few hours...


I got that email, too!

SI

sterlingice 05-16-2014 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2928171)
Nobody wants to run in our house district as a democrat. The only guy to make the primary ballot with enough signatures is 26 years old. Granted it's a losing proposition most likely. I think it went D 1 time in maybe the past 18 cycles or so.


That's one of those districts where the only way the challenging party wins is if it's late in the race and the other candidate gets caught with, what's the cliche again, a dead woman or a live boy.

SI

CU Tiger 05-16-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nol (Post 2928172)
That's nothing, my best friend's sister makes $67 /hr on the laptop . She has been out of work for seven months but last month her pay check was $12263 just working on the laptop for a few hours...



Going to need pics to validate the story

NobodyHere 05-16-2014 08:47 AM

So some right wing terrorists want to overthrow the government today in what they're calling "Operation American Spring". Organizers expect 10-30 million "patriots" to show up.

Apparently their version of America is one that doesn't tolerate any viewpoints but their own.

Marc Vaughan 05-16-2014 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 2928193)
So some right wing terrorists want to overthrow the government today in what they're calling "Operation American Spring". Organizers expect 10-30 million "patriots" to show up.


Anyone doing a sweepstake on how many actually turn up? - I'll take 30,000 ....

Coffee Warlord 05-16-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 2928205)
Anyone doing a sweepstake on how many actually turn up? - I'll take 30,000 ....


30.

NobodyHere 05-16-2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 2928206)
30.


this, however I'm sure the organizer's will claim at least 30,000

cartman 05-16-2014 10:23 AM

I'm sure however many do show up, they will have the rage equal to 30 million people.

DaddyTorgo 05-16-2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2928210)
I'm sure however many do show up, they will have the rage equal to 30 million people.


That's obviously what they meant originally.

NobodyHere 05-16-2014 11:10 AM

Live stream of the revolution!
Operation American Spring on USTREAM: Operation American Spring Live Video by Uncle Sams Misguided Children. Political News

I think they may actually have about 50 people!

mckerney 05-16-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 2928217)


OH NO, THEY'VE BROKEN OUT THE BENGHAZI SIGNS!

mckerney 05-16-2014 11:19 AM

Now someone they're calling Chaos is speaking, he has a bunch of flags.

Ronnie Dobbs3 05-16-2014 11:19 AM

There are DOZENS of us. Dozens!

mckerney 05-16-2014 11:21 AM

There's also a video where one of them say they should begin by singing the national anthem and then starts to lead everyone with, "Oh beautiful..."

mckerney 05-16-2014 11:23 AM

Now to current speaker is claiming to know Obama's true identity and says if Obama doesn't like what he has to say can go back to Kenya.

NobodyHere 05-16-2014 11:25 AM

They need to make this into a reality show

NobodyHere 05-16-2014 11:27 AM

Just remember everyone, this is not a protest

mckerney 05-16-2014 11:32 AM

Has Obama resigned or fled the country yet?

cartman 05-16-2014 11:36 AM

I'm glad they are pressuring to get the truth about what happened at the Bengaza Strip

Ronnie Dobbs3 05-16-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2928229)
I'm glad they are pressuring to get the truth about what happened at the Bengaza Strip



mckerney 05-16-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 2928229)
I'm glad they are pressuring to get the truth about what happened at the Bengaza Strip


Ah, the classic Doobie Keebler tactic.

nol 05-16-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2928175)
I think we need to know is what company and are they still hiring? :)


Judging by the comments on any article, there are plenty of companies and the labor force participation rate among the nation's best friend's sisters/aunts/cousins/former roommates is now at 100%.

DaddyTorgo 05-16-2014 03:44 PM

Guys...guys...the fucking #OperationAmericanSpring hashtag is pure fucking gold.

Some gems

Asia ‏@Prescribed_Naps 36m
What do we want?
Less government in our lives.
When do we want it?
After our Social Security check clears
#OperationAmericanSpring #tcot

Tina Dupuy ‏@TinaDupuy 4h
The people waving the KKK flag on the mall are complaining that Obama is anti-Semitic? #OperationAmericanSpring

Gail Simone ‏@GailSimone 4h
Look, don't feel bad, #OperationAmericanSpring! Eight people is a fine turnout, considering the View is on!

Gen JC Xtian patriot ‏@JC_Christian 9h
It may look like there are less than a dozen of us, but that's because thev2 million others are wearing camo #operationamericanspring

John NoWayNRA™ ‏@azmoderate 13m
#OperationAmericanSpring were expecting 10 to 30 million. Problem was they told them to meet at the Capital & they ended up in Richmond

lungs 05-16-2014 04:30 PM

False flag operation by liberals to make conservatives look foolish.

flere-imsaho 05-16-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 2928033)
Not bad, but he's still got a ways to go to match Donald Sterling here.



I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2928167)
The saddest thing about this primary -- 7 candidates worth -- is that there really doesn't seem to be but one candidate worth a shit in the entire affair ... and he stepped on a third rail with me the other day & ended his chances of getting my vote.


Was that the guy who made the crack about the other candidate not having a college education?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungs (Post 2928284)
False flag operation by liberals to make conservatives look foolish.


Speaking as a member of the Liberal Assembling False Flag committee, I can tell you this isn't one of ours, though I can understand the confusion as we do have a large number of them going on.

sterlingice 05-16-2014 08:58 PM

Twitter looks for Operation American Spring: ‘Where is everybody? I’m confused’

Don't worry. They've gone to the classic "someone hacked my Twitter account" that works so well for celebrities

SI

JonInMiddleGA 05-16-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 2928301)
Was that the guy who made the crack about the other candidate not having a college education?



Nah, the third rail guy was probably the most certain vote I'd ever had in my life -- Paul Broun -- who decided that he's more into simply hating everything the federal government does instead of staying the hell out of the way when they manage (granted, in spite of themselves) to get something right (enforcement of federal drug laws).

Several people have referenced, subtly or not so, the lack of college education possessed by Karen Handel.

miked 05-17-2014 06:47 AM

Perdue is apparently too rich, Handel doesn't have a college degree, the rest are simply running on guns, marriage, and how much they hate everything the government does. They must have gotten the memo that the one who hates Obamacare and government the most will win. Oddly, I saw somewhere that the public does not support a full repeal, but I'm guessing that's heavily along partisan lines and the best way to win your primary is to walk around with an assault rifle threatening to harm anyone who is against traditional marriage and pro-Obamacare.

mckerney 05-17-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 2928329)
Twitter looks for Operation American Spring: ‘Where is everybody? I’m confused’

Don't worry. They've gone to the classic "someone hacked my Twitter account" that works so well for celebrities

SI





:lol:

JonInMiddleGA 05-17-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by miked (Post 2928371)
Perdue is apparently too rich


Perdue is just too related to his cousin (the tax raising/flag-chaging ex-governor) for me to trust him an inch, Handel lost any chance with me after the poorly handled (no pun intended) revelation of her Log Cabin Republicans membership during her failed gubernatorial bid 4 years ago.

Edward64 05-17-2014 11:18 AM

Regarding Michelle's speech in Kansas.

60 years after Brown v. Board, Michelle Obama tells Topeka students that are its ‘legacy’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
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However, Obama also highlighted the areas where she sees diversity lacking, “Many districts in this country have actually pulled back on efforts to integrate their schools and many communities have become less diverse as folks have moved from cities to suburbs.”

“Many young people in America are going to school largely with kids who look just like them,” Obama said. “Too often, those schools aren’t equal, especially ones attended by students of color, which too often lag behind, with crumbling classrooms and less experienced teachers.”

My son's high school was in the news (he wasn't part of it) ...

Students hang N-word banner at Georgia high school - CNN.com
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Atlanta (CNN) -- Students at a school outside Atlanta were in hot water Wednesday after they reportedly hung a banner from their school's roof that read, "N---a We Made It."

The sign at South Forsyth High School may have been meant to celebrate graduation, but struck many as offensive.

"This morning, without our knowledge, students placed a derogatory sign with a verse from a song by Drake on our school as a senior prank," Principal Jeff Cheney said in a note to parents, referring to the rapper Drake.
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More than 70% of the student population at South Forsyth High School is white, while more than 10% is Hispanic, 12% is Asian and less than 5% is black, according to school statistics.

Over Fri night dinner, I asked him if any of the African Americans were insulted by this prank. He said he didn't think so as Drake is part African American and everyone knew it was from the song.

The stats is what I thought was interesting as it aligns with Michelle's comments about population moving from "cities to suburbs". Having gone to my kids grade-middle-high school functions, there is a noticeable lack of African American presence ... definitely a higher number of Asian/Indian in the minority ranks.

Edward64 05-21-2014 06:37 AM

I thought it was interesting how the GOP won against the TP candidates ... see the bolded text. Wonder if this will be a real shift in GOP or just something to win elections.

5 things we learned on Tuesday - CNN.com
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(CNN) -- Six states held primaries on Tuesday, and once again anti-establishment candidates came up short in high-profile Republican showdowns.

That's a sharp difference with what we have seen over the last two election cycles, when establishment Republicans were overwhelmed by the insurgency in their own party and did little to stop it. But they appear to have turned the tables on the conservatives so far in this election cycle and have a string of victories to show for it.

Here are five things we learned Tuesday night:

1. Establishment GOP has learned to play ball: Since its birth in 2009, the tea party has had successes in primaries but those have given the GOP plenty of headaches and hurt its chances of winning back the Senate, effectively costing Republicans five winnable elections over the last two cycles.
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How did they do it?

The winners all ran smart campaigns and were fortunate that the losers stumbled. And outside help also made a difference. The pro-business U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent more than $4 million to support McConnell, Simpson and Rep. Jack Kingston, who will face off with businessman David Perdue in the Georgia runoff.

One reason for the winning streak: The establishment has learned how to play ball with the tea party.

"Every establishment candidate ran like a tea party candidate. It's hard to tell the difference this time around, because they had a uniting factor in opposing Obamacare but also united on issues like immigration and trade and climate change. The establishment Republican Party ran to the right this time," said CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger

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By nominating candidates who have a better shot of appealing to the wider electorate that votes in November, Republicans now upped their odds when it comes to winning the six Democratic-held seats the party needs to win back the control of the Senate.

The victories on Tuesday followed establishment Senate primary wins in North Carolina two weeks ago and in Texas in March.

With establishment candidates in most of the remaining primaries leading in the public opinion polls, the trend should continue.


flere-imsaho 05-21-2014 07:21 AM

I mostly agree with the article, and I'd say it's two things:

1. The GOP establishment candidates are running better primary campaigns, and a large part of that is taking the TP threat seriously. This was definitely not the case in previous years.

2. GOP establishment candidates have moved rightward to help fend off the TP candidates.

sterlingice 05-21-2014 10:31 AM

I suspect it was easier to get the big GOP money behind the establishment candidates after they saw how Akin, Murdock, etc torpedoed the chance at the Senate last time.

SI

DaddyTorgo 05-21-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 2929194)
I thought it was interesting how the GOP won against the TP candidates ... see the bolded text. Wonder if this will be a real shift in GOP or just something to win elections.

5 things we learned on Tuesday - CNN.com


One thing I think the article discounts, at least in the snippet you posted, is that in order to appeal to the broader electorate those candidates are going to have to come back to the center, but if they do that they risk

a) alienating the TP-base
b) having the democrats (and angry TPers) paint them as dishonest

Plus, by running off to the right to fend off the TP they've given the Democrats facing them in the general plenty of ammunition to go after them with.

It's an interesting development, but it's yet to be seen if it can actually be effective in a general election, let alone in multiple general elections.

JonInMiddleGA 05-21-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 2928415)
The stats is what I thought was interesting as it aligns with Michelle's comments about population moving from "cities to suburbs". Having gone to my kids grade-middle-high school functions, there is a noticeable lack of African American presence ... definitely a higher number of Asian/Indian in the minority ranks.


Being that I know the area very well (grew up basically one county over, worked there for a couple of years) there isn't quite the "cities to suburbs" effect in this instance.

Here's a map of the state black population by percentage. That clear line of demarcation for most of the north? The current figures are often all-time highs for percentage of black population, at least in my lifetime (and I'm getting kinda old). Those are areas where there's never really been a minority presence, likely attributable to the fact that the area was largely poor & not farm rich back to the antebellum era. I mean, I can literally name every single black person I ever went to school with, that's how few there were/how small a percentage of the population we're talking about.

edit to add: The map isn't displaying as an image, if you're interested in what I'm referring to then you can see it here
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/unit...percentage#map

JPhillips 05-21-2014 12:21 PM

I'm not sure any of that matters if the Dems continue to rely on a message of, "We're not as bad as them." There are so many things the Dems could run, but they are content to be as uninspiring as possible.

SackAttack 05-21-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2929264)
One thing I think the article discounts, at least in the snippet you posted, is that in order to appeal to the broader electorate those candidates are going to have to come back to the center, but if they do that they risk

a) alienating the TP-base
b) having the democrats (and angry TPers) paint them as dishonest


Realistically alienating the base won't do anything in this election. They'd cut off their own genitals before voting for a Democrat, and unlike the Democratic base, disaffection doesn't reduce turnout. It's largely old, white people in the TP base, and they're a voting metronome anyway.

I'm not sure independents are sympathetic enough to the TP to go "Oh, if THEY think this person is dishonest, I should probably vote for the Democrat instead," for one. For another, the polarization of politics between Democrats and Republicans is such that there's likely to be a fair bit of motivation questioning even if the Republican doesn't tack back to the center.

You ever notice that? Every Republican is the most extreme right-wing threat to the country in a generation and every Democrat is a left-wing extremist who wants your daughters to slut it up and abort the babies. I'm somehow on email lists for candidates from both parties, and I get 8-10 emails alleging the sins of one side or the other on a daily basis.

I've never seen "so-and-so is an honorable person who loves his/her country, but we can do better." Everybody's an extremist now.

flere-imsaho 05-21-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 2929283)
I'm not sure any of that matters if the Dems continue to rely on a message of, "We're not as bad as them." There are so many things the Dems could run, but they are content to be as uninspiring as possible.


Successive elections have shown that it's safe for Democrats to be uninspiring than to take concrete stances that open themselves to attack ads.

Ben E Lou 05-21-2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 2928415)
The stats is what I thought was interesting as it aligns with Michelle's comments about population moving from "cities to suburbs". Having gone to my kids grade-middle-high school functions, there is a noticeable lack of African American presence ... definitely a higher number of Asian/Indian in the minority ranks.

Well, it's Forsyth Freakin' County. ;) Of all of the places in metro Atlanta for black people to "migrate to the suburbs," just by reputation alone, I'm pretty sure that Forsyth County would be ranked roughly, oh, dead last. ;) (Note that in the line that Jon mentions, all of the counties due east and west of Forsyth have significantly higher population percentages of black people.) I strongly suspect that the reputation is no longer (for the most part) deserved, but it's there, so for many black people, Forsyth County is an option that would never even be considered. My personal experiences traveling there with majority-black Tucker football teams in the 2000s were always positive, and there was a very fun friendly band rivalry between Tucker's virtually-all-black band and North Forsyth's lily-white crew. They'd have an informal drumline battle of the bands on the track for a half hour or so every time we played them, either up there or at home, and it always ended with high fives and hugs.



Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMGA
I mean, I can literally name every single black person I ever went to school with, that's how few there were/how small a percentage of the population we're talking about.

I think you're forgetting that you grew up and live in a state where such a statement is unusual. ;)

JonInMiddleGA 05-21-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 2929291)
I think you're forgetting that you grew up and live in a state where such a statement is unusual. ;)


Oh it's DEFINITELY something that's outside the state norm, I just wanted to point out that in that part of the state the low percentages are not anything remotely new.

For all the heat that Forsyth took during that very manufactured controversy back in the day, race was never anywhere near the issue there that it was in some other places I could name. Not that I would ever call out Fannin County (or even Dawson or Gilmer) as examples or anything ;)

JPhillips 05-21-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 2929288)
Successive elections have shown that it's safe for Democrats to be uninspiring than to take concrete stances that open themselves to attack ads.


But both historical and demographic trends point to a bad year. They might scrap by and hold the Senate, but they probably won't. I think they'd be in much better shape if they stood up for the ACA, a minimum wage increase and a Social Security increase. They could build it all around helping working families get ahead. There's also a bonus of two of the three being very popular.

I'm tired of a choice between bad ideas or no ideas.

Edward64 05-21-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 2929291)
Well, it's Forsyth Freakin' County. ;) Of all of the places in metro Atlanta for black people to "migrate to the suburbs," just by reputation alone, I'm pretty sure that Forsyth County would be ranked roughly, oh, dead last.


Didn't know. I moved from Gwinett to Forsyth in 2001.

Race on The Oprah Show: A 25-Year Look Back
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In 1987, when The Oprah Show had been on the air for just six months, Oprah taped a show in Forsyth County, Georgia—which had gained a reputation for being a hotbed of racism. At the time, not a single black person had lived there for 75 years.


DaddyTorgo 05-21-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 2929315)
But both historical and demographic trends point to a bad year. They might scrap by and hold the Senate, but they probably won't. I think they'd be in much better shape if they stood up for the ACA, a minimum wage increase and a Social Security increase. They could build it all around helping working families get ahead. There's also a bonus of two of the three being very popular.

I'm tired of a choice between bad ideas or no ideas.


I do totally agree with you FWIW.

I think we should have blind-name, blind-party, issue-stance only voting.

No names on the ballot, no party identifiers, just "candidate a's stance on this issue is X, candidate b's stance on the issue is Y" for a number of defined issues, and make people actually vote that way.

Of course that would require some sort of arbitrator to define what the issues to be taking stances on were, so it's not a perfect solution, but it's what i'd like to see.

JonInMiddleGA 05-21-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2929395)
No names on the ballot, no party identifiers, just "candidate a's stance on this issue is X, candidate b's stance on the issue is Y" for a number of defined issues, and make people actually vote that way.

Of course that would require some sort of arbitrator to define what the issues to be taking stances on were, so it's not a perfect solution, but it's what i'd like to see.


Then again, party identification largely covers the majority of those things ... and saves a whole lot of ink.

JonInMiddleGA 05-22-2014 10:56 AM

I noticed something interesting (to me anyhow) in the various bits & pieces from the latest Congressional dissatisfaction polls. I think it sort of fits with something I haven't quite been able to articulate as well as I'd like.

Americans' view of Congress: Throw 'em out - CBS News

Take this statement first:
Quote:

Thirty-two percent of self-identified Republicans now consider themselves supporters of the tea party - down 10 points from February and a decline of 23 points from July 2010, the summer before the Republican Party took control of the House of Representatives.

And then this one

Quote:

Nationally, 23 percent of Republicans say a candidate's affiliation with the tea party would make them more likely to back that candidate, while 13 percent say it would make them less likely. It wouldn't make much difference to most Republicans.

32% of R's say they're supporters of the Tea Party (or tea party, lowercase)
23% of R's say TP affiliation would make them more likely to back a candidate

Okay, so we could figure that somewhere between those two numbers are "tea partiers"

But then there's this

Quote:

Most Republicans overall (as well as most conservative Republicans) think the tea party has either the right amount of influence on their party (38 percent) or too little influence (29 percent).

Go ahead, read that one again.

The "too little influence" number makes sense, right in between the two previous numbers. But what about the "right amount of influence" figure, which is a plurality in the demo?

Are those mostly people who just figure they really haven't had much impact?

Or is that the group where I tend to land but have never been able to articulate as well as I'd like? Something like "I like/appreciate the general idea behind their goals, I'm just not always thrilled with the organizational aspect / specific candidates/ something".

edit to add: At any rate, I just thought that was an interesting bit of potential paradox, figured I'd share it here.

JonInMiddleGA 05-27-2014 08:46 PM

Somewhere there's a village missing its idiot. Okay, there's lots of those but in this case I'm thinking of whomever put together this list.

White House outs CIA official by mistake - CNN.com


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