I thought last night's episode was great. Much, much better than the prior episode.

The cast is getting rather large. They've added Tarra, Abraham and the two people he was with, and threw Carol back into things. Though they did subtract Hershel and the Governor from last season. They have no problem thinning the heard.

Didn't they walk by the smashed grapes?

I don't like how this show was mind numbingly straightforward the first 3 years and then it's become way more subtle out of nowhere the past year.

Who the hell is Amy?

The blonde singing chick. Her name might not be Amy tho. Lol.

Apologies. Her name is Beth. Lol

Funny....I think somebody else called her Amy in the thread. But everytime I see it I get who everybody is talking about because I keep forgetting her name as well. :)

BTW...is it wrong that I noticed she matured from last season? I assume the actress has to be 18(ish) by now right?

She's almost 30.

I started the whole Amy-misnaming thing I think.

My bad.

I hate that they brought back the baby. I guess it will be that much specialer when Rick and Kawowl are reconnected.

Anyone else notice how Maggie completely dumped her accent at one point last night? Between her and Rick they need to invest some more money in diction coaches. Rick and Jax Teller need to do a bad accent off contest.

I said that to my wife also. I thought she might be a different actress but they definitely are dressing her different and having her act different than when she was on the farm. Back then she acted like she was like a 12-year old girl.

Well to be fair she has a natural British accent. Any American accent is still some work for her. I'd still hit it.

I didn't, but I do know she acted the hell out of that scene on the bus.

She's 28 years old.

It was the scene before that coming out of a commercial break. I rewound it cause I was like, "who the F is this British chick? "

I usually barely pay attention to TWD and listen to the screen while I'm doing something else.

Woah....must have Macchioitis or something because I honestly thought she was a child last season.

I didnt notice Maggie slipping into British voice but I definitely noticed when she must have come back to her southern drawl because it was so much more over the top than anything she was saying before. But I give her a pass because well, I'm sexist like that.

On the other hand, I really want to like Rick but can't stop hoping he gets eatin by zombies that are on fire.

Yeah, Maggie's accent was WAY off. I was actually focusing more on "was her accent that clearly bad last season" moreso than the words she was saying.

I'm fairly certain I've ranted about this in others threads before but I have to say the whole "I'm was born and raised in London but I'm acting as a sheriff from the deep south USA" makes me crazy. Very few pull it off well.

(and don't get me wrong, the whole "I grew up in Pittsburgh but I'm playing a Brit" makes me just as crazy)

What happens is that I realize something is off and then I focus on that almost to the point of it being unhealthy and it kind of spoils things for me. I'm sure I'm in a minority here but please please Casting Directors... hire people with the proper accent so I'm not driven insane!

This came to a head with me when I watched Battlestar Galactica and right off the bat I noticed something odd with Jamie Bamber. His accent was pretty damn good but there were certain things that made my head tilt. Thanks to google I found out he is from London. BAM! Now, whenever he spoke all I frackin did was analyse his every word.

You can't tell me they couldn't find actors with genuine American Southeast accents to play these parts. I know it is super nit picky but it makes me crazy.

In this instance, on the whole, I think I'd have preferred they change the location to fit the actors instead of the other way around.

Honestly, I've seen very little about TWD that really requires it to be in any particular place (aside from the CDC reference early on)

I cannot stand that people die so easily after killing off a bunch of zombies.. they take a breather and one sneaks up on them and just miraculously gets a bite in.I would rather see them trip over a dead zombie and get bit that way than be snuck up on... they lived so long already, they're not gonna be an easy kill.

Also the Carol being in the woods and hearing a branch snap and be on alert and STILL be snuck up on. I know it makes it lame and boring when all the zombies die easily.

Good point and really in the comic books Rick is from Kentucky.

I think rural PA would have been a good compromise. Having a news caster accent up here isn't far fetched and they could have had Maggie as a cousin from England that moved here a few years ago. Rick, would be a problem but they could have found somebody else though Andrew Lincoln is a great Rick (accent aside). Could he have been another British ex-pat that became a sheriff of a small town middle Pennsylvania sheriff?

Could have actually made things more interesting.

You mean Beth right?

None of us can get her name right. We should just call her Herschel's youngest daughter.

trying to stay warm would have been a good theme as well. Set the show in the allegheny forest or something, there's a lot of small cities there surrounded by nothingness for miles.

The crossbow dude and Carol moment when he saved the day again

Carol is the short haired older woman who finds Tyrese and the kids.

The crossbow dude is with Beth.

You are correct! :)

Seems appropriate considering the recent discussion....

Okay, I feel like a complete idiot.

Until a few minutes ago it never crossed my mind that Rosita was Suzie Crabgrass.

That one dude at the house, Jeff Kober(mayor on Sons of Anarchy), seems like way too big of an actor to just play a one off type role. I wonder if we'll see the crew from the house again.

Yeah - was funny seeing him there. Wonder if maybe he's just a big fan of the show though?

That was something I had considered.

My exact thought. If this is a seed they plant that comes to fruition a long ways down the road I would be happy with that too. A bit of a change in story telling.

I don't know the typical turn around time but his IMDB page isn't updated with this appearance as of today.

Good episode in all.

I thought Rick in the house was pretty well done (other than the guy on the crapper not actually using the crapper).

I don't know the comic story (purposely) so the mullet genius seems kind of an odd storyline being merged but, I'm rolling with it. Liking the Abraham character already and the (I suspect) dynamics this might bring to the larger group story.

Nothing too much to nitpick honestly except maybe this.

Those guys were The Hunters from the comics, maybe? Due to them being all secretive of what his character is it would appear that maybe he plays Chris?

i assumed that the
and that's what caused the commotion.

Ah good call...did not occur to me.

Another pretty solid episode.

The scene with Rick in the house was incredibly tense. Yeah, walkers are dangerous and all, but things really ratchet up a few notches when other (heavily armed) people get involved.

And, yes, Rick choked the guy out in the bathroom and then purposefully opened the bathroom door just a bit, knowing that the guy would eventually "turn" and perhaps cause a distraction or something along those lines. Yes, the timing worked out perfectly, but it's TV. That's how it do.

It's very weird just how... comic booky Abraham, Rosita and smart guy look. I mean, they really look just like they do in the comic. It's a bit odd. Decent adds to the cast.


As for the guy on the porch, I knew he looked familiar. My first thought was that I had seen him on "Buffy" (never watched Sons of Anarchy) and I had. I could definitely see that group show up again at some point.

I enjoy the characters in last night's episode a lot more than the ones from last weeks (and from the preview next week's). I guess I'm just not big on little girls and baby in peril and while I enjoy Daryll I don't have any investment into the girl he is with and could care less if she dies. Seems like it would have been better to pair half of last nights with half of next week's and vice versa. Hopefully they don't continue doing this for much longer but I think one of you guys said it was a way to pay the actors less or something.

EDIT: Oh yeah and I almost forgot D'Angelo Barksdale and Maggie. Shows how much I care about that storyline. :)

This show is losing me fast. The characters are constantly re-written to be as dumb as they need to be to suit whatever situation the writers want to put them in, and so far Beth is just a non-starter as a leading character.

Daryl and Carol, they only genuinely interesting characters on the show, are again being given absolutely nothing to work with.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

I agree with him on the Beth thing. Doesn't mean I hate the show but I have zero feelings about the Beth character. Kind of like how I felt about Andrea last season.

Beth has been pretty much a non-factor since she was introduced. She sings melancholy songs ever so often, took care of baby Judith and... Yeah. That's about it.

As for Andrea, by the end, I kind of wanted her to go. She had become pretty insufferable. I don't have that feeling for Beth, because, like you, I have zero feelings as opposed to negative feelings.

While I disagree with him strongly since I enjoy Rick's group and the Abraham group. I do have to agree from next week's previews that I won't enjoy an episode spent watching Daryll continually save Beth from a zombie attack. His character does seem like it is being wasted right now. I assume these groups will come together sooner than later but right now I find the Daryll/Beth (and Cutty/Carol) storylines pretty pointless and uninteresting.

I hope she gets eaten before she can sing again. Also random character singing in TV/movies is really bad. Even if the person has talent.

The Daryll/Beth stuff, so far, hasn't been great. But, then again, we've only seen a bit of it. This next episode seems to focus on them quite a bit, if not, entirely. So, we'll have to see.

I liked the Tyrese storyline. Tyrese was in need of some major character repair. He was kind of a crazy-man asshole for much last the first half of the season. He needs to be redeemed a bit and caring for Judith and the little girls is a decent way to handle that. I thought they did a good job of showing how difficult it is to try to survive and keep an infant alive. And the whole Tyrese/Carol relationship has the potential to get quite combustible if he ever learns that she was the one that killed his girlfriend. That hangs over that crew.

Ping any Ed Helms character! STFU!

As two-screen experiences go, Chandler Riggs' Twitter is probably my favorite.

ChandlerRiggs ‏@ChandlerRiggs 2m
Ummm. OK...No more moonshine for Mr. Dixon.

I'm going to guess there will be much bitching about this episode.
I'm fine with it.

For better or worse, characters have to be people to or else there's nothing to attach to.