This sums things up pretty nicely, I think.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...y-over/607969/

I am getting to the point I hate Pence more that Trump.

Trump is who he is. Pence is clearly selling his soul to be a lapdog.

Has a VP ever sucked off a President like this before? ROFL.

Pence, you should be talking to us not to Trump.

What would Mother think?!

I have to say I did like what he said about taking care of seniors. He is 100% right.

Suddenly the United States likes socialism.

Where are the libertarians and conservatives screaming about personal responsibility and yelling about getting the government out of their lives?

Yep soon we are going to need new CEO's. Bet they get testing done the second they can get away from him.

He is going off script now.

It will flow through?

It's going to be fun reading all the folks on my FB feed who were saying it was a nothing virus hyped up by the media completely changing their tune after this

"No, I don't take responsibility at all."

He just can't help bash the prior administration, even though he is lying.

Right. "Very big failure with swine flu". Really, did sports leagues suspend seasons for swine flu?

Finally, not a softball question. To Fauci

You really think Libertarians are big fans of Donald Trump?

And it's always dumb arguments like the roads or extreme cases like viruses. How about just thinking about national health care after this last month? And crow all you want about how Sanders/Biden wouldnt be anything like this which is all fine and dandy if you can guarantee Republicans will never win another national election and be in charge of the national health care. Why would you want the feds in charge of anything after this?

Joe Biden campaign commercial that makes itself.

I imagine his campaign manager has a big grin on his face right now.

Oh f**k, why go to politics and trade with China. Keep with Fauci and Burke.

"I didn't do it, we had a group of people"

OMG, just handing wins to the Democrats in this press conference.

I would love know what is going through the minds of all these brilliant people standing behind him listening to him speak.

He's mentioned a couple of times during this presser that there were old systems, old rules that impacted the ability to test quickly. I'm interested in understanding what those were.

Please don't shake my hand again Mr. President?

It's directed at the people who don't want to pay taxes for emergency services because they can handle it. It's the dumbest fucking argument there is. ANYTIME there's any sort of crisis the government has to step up and do something, but it's the whole "I don't need the government" mentality that is so much more bullshit than anything. The people who stand there and non-stop criticize literally everything are just miserable fucks who never tried to actually make life better for anyone else. They only look at things through their own impact and squawk about how their ideas are the only legitimate answers and how everyone else are just a bunch of fuckups. People like that are the problem. Not the people working to resolve difficult issues.

Says he "most likely" be tested for the virus soon.

Then dodged the follow up if he would share the results

Coronavirus is all over that podium! :D

"Keep distance from each other."

Says a guy packed shoulder to shoulder with everyone.

A "B" press conference, it is reassuring to know that Trump is acknowledging the seriousness of this and bringing in the businesses. Fauci and Burke did a great job (and saved it) in contrast to Pence's sycophant act and Trump's painful reading.

There were specifics but not really from the business folks. I hope we continue to hear progress reports from the businesses.

How many true conservatives argue against emergency management systems? If something is bigger than individuals can handle the government steps in. I am against the government being involved with health care on a day to day basis, but the CDC, I am perfectly fine with. What they cover should be beyond the scope of an everyday doctor. For the record, I am not thrilled with the response government has had with the crisis, but I am not going to argue that they should not be involved.

People were complaining about Trump getting rid of pandemic office is not a big deal (to me) because that is redundant to what he CDC should be doing. If you wanted to roll pandemic office under the CDC that would be fine too, part for standard diseases, another department for pandemics.

The problem is that the Director of the CDC has too much responsibility there to also oversee all the disparate arms of a pandemic response. That was the whole point of the pandemic office.

Everyone quickly becomes a Democratic-Socialist during a pandemic.

There's always a tweet.

Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2013

And so once again my question is you would rather have the Trump administration in charge of more of your life? Especially after this? Because again just like the war powers act, executive orders, and many other things it sounds great when "your guy" is in office or even a competent guy from the other side but you really want more stuff to be run by a Trump-like federal government? Hasn't this whole entire thread been about how inept the Trump administration is? Maybe some of us have the foresight to know that people are stupid and tend to elect people like Trump and George W. Bush every 8-10 years and don't want them to have almost unlimited power.

Who do you think should be in charge of containing a pandemic?

I mean obviously it's Trump and his administration which is the exact non-selfish (IMO) reason why some of us oppose the expansion of the federal government. We don't want idiots like Trump killing somebody to distract from their impeachment or people like Sanders using executive orders to spend 30 trillion. It's not always fuck you, I want mine sometimes it to avoid an idiot in charge of way too much.

I mean if you get your wish of less federal government, who handles this stuff?

Yeah I mean I guess I am not a textbook Libertarian so I wouldn't have to immediately go jackhammer the roads and shut down the CDC. But yes I wouldn't mind the endless spending, the endless war in the Middle East, the endless war on drugs. This shit costs a lot of money and neither party wants to end any of it. Getting off topic a little I guess.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...navirus-portal

Is there a time where this clown can go two sentences without lying?

He is the opposite of a leader. He only wants credit, and takes no blame. How people worship this pathetic, weak narcissist is beyond me.


They are imaginary.

When he was learning how to talk?

Trump in order to distract from his adminstration's efforts to deal with the Coronavirus, tweeted today that he is yet again considering a pardon for Michael Flynn.

Lol. The distract play is not going to work vs. a pandemic.

Dow futures down 1000. Well played orangutan

No, that has the distraction play in reverse. He's 100% going to let out his fucking criminal puppet while everyone is worried about dying.

I thought Trump said yesterday the feds lowering the interest rate was wonderful?

Next stop negative rates, bailouts for everyone but no socialism. We definitely, definitely can’t do that.

Working in the cyber security industry at the exec level this has been a fear of mine that a adversary would take advantage of the virus crisis to attack us. Likely Iran or N. Korea but Russia could also be involved.

Key U.S. Health Agency Suffers Cyberattack During Coronavirus Response

"Everyone"

SI

Exactly. Bail-outs for billionaires, the poor just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps (though their bootstraps have already been repossessed by the billionaires).