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Blade6119 12-04-2006 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister (Post 1325577)
Yeah, I stole 30 shillings from Barkeep (5 of which were mine), but I've had 3 shillings stolen from me every single time.


Hoops, apprently i mispoke as she says only 5 were hers. I would assume after two times it would be 10. Do you get paid before or after the fun?

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 08:43 PM

I don't think it is explicit in terms of when the transaction takes place. Our money summary is at the end of the PM.

Izulde 12-04-2006 08:44 PM

Night 0: Fouts
Night 1: Dodgerchick (common Londoner - good)
Night 2: About to go off with DaddyTorgo, but jailed
Night 3: Released from jail after working hours
Night 4: dubbs (had an opium den dream about the Sleeper Awakening (red herring is my guess) )
Night 5: path deliberated between me and hoops, chose hoops. DC deliberated between me and Barkeep, chose barkeep. No play for me.

Blade6119 12-04-2006 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1325685)
Night 4: dubbs (had an opium den dream about the Sleeper Awakening (red herring is my guess) )


That actually sounds like a conversion to me, but i have to go

Izulde 12-04-2006 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1325687)
That actually sounds like a conversion to me, but i have to go


Nope, nothing came up in the PM that said I was converted, so my belief is I'm still good.

Besides, telling someone about a dream would be a pretty silly conversion mechanism.

Lorena 12-04-2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1325597)
For me its the robbery, not the timing. Mr. W and brian d were also robbed when killed..thats what keeps my vote on DC...DT is just a guess, especially with his supposed 4 gold a night...but im very torn, and i could vote for path, izulde, and even hoops tonight


That's exactly why I didn't mentioned I robbed him... I knew if I mentioned it, it would incriminate me. But I guess it doesn't matter.

So question, I would really like to know why I'm getting lynched. Is it because BK died and I was with him, or is it because I robbed him? It's one or the other.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 08:52 PM

Could mean someone else was converted, potentially.

What the hell was DT doing last night? No urchins, no prostitutes (Izulde saw Path and DC - which is different from my experience on previous evenings - but none of us saw DaddyT) - opium? Why, when visiting a prostitute could help his cause?

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 1319631)
Just read and got caught up. I think it's a bad idea to vote Barkeep today. Right, now, it is down to DT, RA and Wednesday for me. I think I'm gonna put some pressure on Torgo and see if we can't get something out of him. This vote is subject to change.

VOTE DADDYTORGO


Interesting vote on Day 2 when we hit Lathum. He switched votes on Day 2 to Lathum once hoops presented his case. This is also making me think that DT is okay.

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 08:58 PM

I'm thinking about switching my vote to Izulde.

Lorena 12-04-2006 08:59 PM

I wanna reiterate what happened last night, as it seems there might be confusion of when I robbed BK:

I go to Commercial and didn't find anyone so I go to Whitechapel Rd where Barkeep, Izulde and Hoops are hooking on the corners. Barkeep and I are having sex and he pushes me away making choking sounds. I am so freaked out (as I was IRL when I read it) that I freeze and don't wanna go out then he dies. I didn't get my money's worth so I go to the dresser, look in her purse and find 30 shilling (5 were mine). Since she's dead, I take it and I go home, to my flat in Bishopsgate.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:00 PM

If we just have the one bad guy in play, we have him down for kills potentially on Nights 1, 3, and 5.

He robbed Brian D (at least) and may get some kickbacks from urchins if he is Fagin.

DaddyTorgo tried to get Izulde on Night 2 when he was arrested and hooked up with Barkeep on Night 4 (Blade, are you positive it was this night?)

DodgerChick says she tried to hire Izulde Night 2 (Izulde, can you verify this from your Night 2 PM) and was with Barkeep Night 4. But was also with Barkeep last night (confirmed) and Izulde Night 1 (confirmed). So for DC to kill on Night 1 and be with a prostitute who sees her as good in that same period seems like a stretch.

UNVOTE DODGERCHICK
VOTE DADDYTORGO

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1325685)
Night 0: Fouts
Night 1: Dodgerchick (common Londoner - good)
Night 2: About to go off with DaddyTorgo, but jailed
Night 3: Released from jail after working hours
Night 4: dubbs (had an opium den dream about the Sleeper Awakening (red herring is my guess) )
Night 5: path deliberated between me and hoops, chose hoops. DC deliberated between me and Barkeep, chose barkeep. No play for me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1325702)
DodgerChick says she tried to hire Izulde Night 2 (Izulde, can you verify this from your Night 2 PM) and was with Barkeep Night 4. But was also with Barkeep last night (confirmed) and Izulde Night 1 (confirmed). So for DC to kill on Night 1 and be with a prostitute who sees her as good in that same period seems like a stretch.


I don't think Izulde concurs with your assessment on Night 2.

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 09:04 PM

The more I think about it, the more I think DC is the right choice tonight. Good bye Lorena.

Swaggs 12-04-2006 09:06 PM

I'm here and looking for some guidance.

Right now, I am thinking that dubb set us up with the "slow acting poison" comment.

Lorena 12-04-2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1325705)
The more I think about it, the more I think DC is the right choice tonight. Good bye Lorena.


LOL, it's cool. If I'm bad, i certainly don't know about it.

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 09:09 PM

Well, you're gonna hang one way or the other.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:09 PM

Swaggs, I'm on board with that analysis (Dubb lying) if you believe that Brian's killer on Night 1 is different than Barkeep's killer on Night 5. Or if you believe that someone can both visit a prostitute and kill in the same night. Either of those explanations would allow the easy choice today (Dodgerchick) to be the killer last night.

Swaggs 12-04-2006 09:10 PM

Do we know if Blade can interview people while they are in jail?

Swaggs 12-04-2006 09:11 PM

Refresh me on the circumstances of Brian D.'s murder?

Raiders Army 12-04-2006 09:11 PM

I don't believe he can because they can't do anything while in jail.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:13 PM

See Post #2072 for a review of all the Night actions (listed Night 1 here for you):

Post #455 (Night 1 results)
BrianD - beaten to death and robbed
Fouts - mauled by Hyde (Saldana)
Tyrith - killed in home by werewolf (Dubb)
No action by Lathum (Jack)

Lorena 12-04-2006 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1325692)
So question, I would really like to know why I'm getting lynched. Is it because BK died and I was with him, or is it because I robbed him? It's one or the other.


Anyone?

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:16 PM

DC, considering I changed my vote for me it is neither at the moment.

AFK for a few, hope to be back before deadline.

Lorena 12-04-2006 09:23 PM

Well, I'm thoroughly frustrated right now, so I'm outta here.

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 09:25 PM

NOTE: POTENTIAL GM ISSUE

The power at my place has gone on the blink again. It's really annoying; it's the third time in less than a month that we have had a power outage to our neighborhood/area. I don't know what the heck is going on. I am at a Kinko's right now.

I may need to end tonight's voting early, as I can't stay on here for too long. I will be reading up on the thread here and doing some errands, but then I will have to end the day, even if it is not 7 yet.

So please vote as soon as possible if you have not already (or if you intend to change your vote).

The power outage could have no effect being the next couple hours and we're game on for tomorrow. Be prepared, however, for me being without power all night, which means I will not be able to process Night Actions tomorrow morning. If this happens, I will process Night Actions tomorrow night after I return from work (about 9-10 p.m. PDT) and then we will have the normal lynch time in place for 7 p.m./4 p.m. EST/PDT on Wednesday. This is all assuming I get power back (I should) and if the game is still going (I ain't sayin').

So sorry for the bad news. Cross your fingers you hear from me tomorrow morning after I run tonight's lynch.

How much are they charging me for power again? :mad: ?

Tyrith 12-04-2006 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1325685)
Night 0: Fouts
Night 1: Dodgerchick (common Londoner - good)
Night 2: About to go off with DaddyTorgo, but jailed
Night 3: Released from jail after working hours
Night 4: dubbs (had an opium den dream about the Sleeper Awakening (red herring is my guess) )
Night 5: path deliberated between me and hoops, chose hoops. DC deliberated between me and Barkeep, chose barkeep. No play for me.


Chief, did you ever play Everquest, by chance? :P

Swaggs 12-04-2006 09:36 PM

I think I am just going to hope we hit a homerun today:

Vote Dodgerchick
Vote Lynch LSG

Lorena 12-04-2006 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 1325732)
I think I am just going to hope we hit a homerun today:

Vote Dodgerchick
Vote Lynch LSG


Yeah, unfortunately you're gonna strike out.

path12 12-04-2006 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1325660)
Confirmed visits to Barkeep. So upon further review that doesn't narrow down my list all that much. Maybe overlaying it with the days they did visit would be more valuable?

I'm not sure if these days are correct
Night 0 - Path
Night 1 - Bullet
Night 2 - two johns
Night 3 - ????
Night 4 - Daddy Torgo and Dodgerchick (per Blade's post 1993)
Night 5 - Dodgerchick and someone else?

Barkeep was robbed of 30 shillings, so we should be able to figure out the number of johns. Start with 10, expenses knock off 2 per day. So with Night 0 counting that is -10. Forty shillings accumulated = 8 johns. So either it was just DC yesterday with someone on Night 3 or BK came up empty on Night 3 and doubled up again yesterday.


Catching up. I can confirm you are correct for night 0.

path12 12-04-2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army (Post 1325657)
Problem is, confirmed by whom? Mr. Wednesday vouched for DT and bullet. Izulde vouched for DC. I'm at a loss as to who vouched for path. Also, just for language purposes, how about vouch instead of confirm. I think confirm is somewhat misleading.


RA, bullet learned from Barkeep on his night 1 visit that the john from night 0 was good. That was me, and is all I have as far as a vouch goes. If you believe in conversions (not sure I do at this point) you obviously have to take that into account.

path12 12-04-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1325685)
Night 4: dubbs (had an opium den dream about the Sleeper Awakening (red herring is my guess) )


I missed this completely. Could you clarify it?

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:54 PM

I feel lost at the end of days when I don't keep track of the votes - will start doing that again tomorrow.

path12 12-04-2006 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1325688)
Nope, nothing came up in the PM that said I was converted, so my belief is I'm still good.

Besides, telling someone about a dream would be a pretty silly conversion mechanism.


The dream could hint at someone else awakening. Without copying it, could you paraphrase the details?

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1325731)
Chief, did you ever play Everquest, by chance? :P


Nope. If you're saying my game is like crack, then thanks! Otherwise I don't know what you're driving at. :)

path12 12-04-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick (Post 1325692)
That's exactly why I didn't mentioned I robbed him... I knew if I mentioned it, it would incriminate me. But I guess it doesn't matter.


Because it wasn't incriminating enough being in bed with her when she died? :)

That's the one thing with the story, you were gonna have problems with that to begin with, holding off on stealing the money seemed minor in comparison to me.

That said, I still don't think you're evil.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

I also think I gave off enough of a hooker vibe to draw Jack's attention - hoopsguy

I'm flattered to take over the quote section, but RA's comment was definintely funnier :)

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:58 PM

Did Bullet ever vote?

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 09:59 PM

Because I'm wondering if we are at 4-4-1 right now.

path12 12-04-2006 10:00 PM

I don't remember. I was swamped today and just kept skimming.

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 10:05 PM

I have it at 5-4 now. As follows:

DC—RA, Blade, DT, path12, Swaggs
DT—stcronin, Izulde, DC, hoops

Does that seem right to everyone?

Lorena 12-04-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1325747)
I'm flattered to take over the quote section, but RA's comment was definintely funnier :)


There were so many quotes I wanted to put on my signature from this game but refrained. (BrianD's was one of them)

Chief, thanks for running such an awesome game. I think I got a little carried away with my character at times though ;)

path12 12-04-2006 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1325755)
I have it at 5-4 now. As follows:

DC—RA, Blade, DT, path12, Swaggs
DT—stcronin, Izulde, DC, hoops

Does that seem right to everyone?


I voted DT, not Dodgerchick.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 10:07 PM

Chief, you have Path listed with both people.

path12 12-04-2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1325150)
By that same logic, it can't have been me based on the info bullet got from Barkeep night 1.

But I can only deal with the info or lack thereof that has come out. We've certainly got the margin for a bad lynch.

As for me, I think the fact that DC came right out and said she was with Barkeep when he died somewhat offsets the reluctance to mention the stealing. I'm going with the person who has never been vouched for by anyone and IIRC was with Barkeep a couple nights ago.

VOTE DADDY TORGO
VOTE LYNCH LSG


For the record.

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 10:09 PM

Yeah, I had path and st cronin reversed, and then replaced st cronin with path. Ugh.

St cronin your vote is on DC, isn't it?

If so, it should be as follows:

DC—RA, Blade, DT, stcronin, Swaggs
DT—path, Izulde, DC, hoops

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 10:10 PM

That sounds right, but I haven't written votes down the last few days so I'm going from memory.

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1325762)
For the record.


I know, path. I just put the wrong name know. This sucks doing this at Kinkos. I HATE Anaheim power utility right now.

hoopsguy 12-04-2006 10:11 PM

Dola - Cronin is only one I'm not sure about in terms of recalling conversations, but I think your list is correct.

path12 12-04-2006 10:11 PM

st.c voted dodgerchick #2091.

Chief Rum 12-04-2006 10:11 PM

I'm going to confirm right now, but regardless, deadline has passed. We'll see where it ends up.


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