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Lathum 11-20-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3257007)
The best part is the GOP game is to plow headlong to the end with the same talking points and pray that the base doesn't care and that'll be enough.


And it will work. The reality of this is none of it matters to the base and the right will fall in lock step.

Lathum 11-20-2019 10:39 AM

I recorded it so I’m behind but if EVERY dem doesn’t hammer home the fact that he claims quid pro quo then they are doing it wrong. They need Sondeland to say over and over it happened.

Galaril 11-20-2019 11:08 AM

I am concerned the R's will spin this impeachment with them now subpoenaing Hunter Biden and maybe after that Joe Biden as a way to swear the likely (maybe) Dem nomination. It is smelling like Hillary all over. We may have no choice to but nominate Warren or Sanders even if they can't beat Trump with the Medicare for all stuff. Ugh.

spleen1015 11-20-2019 11:10 AM

Makes sense given all they want to talk about is Biden & his son.

Galaril 11-20-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3257044)
Makes sense given all they want to talk about is Biden & his son.


Yes since they are the ones being impeached. It makes perfect sense.:banghead:

JediKooter 11-20-2019 11:12 AM

That didn't take long:

Annnd Pompeo is now resigning

Galaril 11-20-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257046)
That didn't take long:

Annnd Pompeo is now resigning


Holy shit.

Jas_lov 11-20-2019 11:18 AM

Great. Now he can testify.

Lathum 11-20-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257046)
That didn't take long:

Annnd Pompeo is now resigning


This very well could be the straw

Ben E Lou 11-20-2019 11:21 AM

Wow.

QuikSand 11-20-2019 11:27 AM

"hurting his reputation" FTMFW

Ben E Lou 11-20-2019 11:35 AM

You can't make this stuff up.




JediKooter 11-20-2019 11:37 AM

Now they (who 'they are, I don't know) are saying pompeo is resigning to run for the senate. Sounds like an 'easy out' that he's taking.

Lathum 11-20-2019 11:40 AM

Just started Nunes cross examination and he starts with full on Ukranian conspiracy theory and DNC server. Christ how does anyone not see through this

PilotMan 11-20-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3257055)
You can't make this stuff up.






That can't be real. No way.



PilotMan 11-20-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257056)
Now they (who 'they are, I don't know) are saying pompeo is resigning to run for the senate. Sounds like an 'easy out' that he's taking.



This was rumored right about the time he lost the backing of State, couple months ago?

Ben E Lou 11-20-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3257059)
That can't be real. No way.



I've seen multiple angles of it with differing resolutions.

JediKooter 11-20-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3257060)
This was rumored right about the time he lost the backing of State, couple months ago?


Looks like after Sondland's testimony, it kind of accelerated his plans.

I. J. Reilly 11-20-2019 12:13 PM

Because if you put on reading glasses you would look dumb. #BigglyBrain

PilotMan 11-20-2019 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3257061)
I've seen multiple angles of it with differing resolutions.



That needs to be in the National Archive, like ASAP. That needs to be on display right next to the Gettysburg Address.

AlexB 11-20-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3257055)
You can't make this stuff up.





Just watched the clip - Trump is now doing an impression of Alec Baldwin doing Trump?

JediKooter 11-20-2019 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3257068)
Just watched the clip - Trump is now doing an impression of Alec Baldwin doing Trump?


Or this guy:


kingfc22 11-20-2019 01:27 PM

Best line of the day by Rep Speier. "The President of the United States has 5 Pinocchio's on a daily basis, so let's not go there". In response to a comment from the GOP representative trying to use a 3 Pinocchio article as evidence.

Thomkal 11-20-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257056)
Now they (who 'they are, I don't know) are saying pompeo is resigning to run for the senate. Sounds like an 'easy out' that he's taking.



He's been travelling back and forth to Kansas (on our money of course) for a couple months now reportedly to try to set this up. Hope Kansas says no, and I hope whatever D is running against him uses the fact that he wouldn't cooperate with the Congress he wants to run for and wouldn't support the people working under him in the State Dept against him.

RainMaker 11-20-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257046)
That didn't take long:

Annnd Pompeo is now resigning


I'm not seeing this anywhere else and Abramson is a complete quack.

I'm sure Pompeo is going to resign at some point, but this article doesn't acknowledge anything imminent.

JediKooter 11-20-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3257073)
He's been travelling back and forth to Kansas (on our money of course) for a couple months now reportedly to try to set this up. Hope Kansas says no, and I hope whatever D is running against him uses the fact that he wouldn't cooperate with the Congress he wants to run for and wouldn't support the people working under him in the State Dept against him.


Hopefully the people of Kansas do say no and definitely remind them over and over again him not wanting to cooperate. Shoot, they are probably still reeling from Brownback.


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Originally Posted by RainMaker
I'm not seeing this anywhere else and Abramson is a complete quack.

I'm sure Pompeo is going to resign at some point, but this article doesn't acknowledge anything imminent.


I really don't know much about Abramson, though I have heard of him. I just looked up his wikipedia and sounds like he may embellish things a bit, so my opinion would be to definitely take his stuff with a grain of salt.

I found this:

Mike Pompeo Is Searching for a Safe Exit From State Ahead of Senate Run, GOP Sources Say

Lathum 11-20-2019 06:51 PM

Nunes just said anyone who believes Trump is guilty is stupid. Solid strategy

molson 11-20-2019 09:08 PM

So if Trump resigns in the next few months, maybe for "medical reasons", and Pence becomes president - is he automatically the Republican nominee, can the Republicans old-school figure it out at the convention, or do the primaries have any meaning (the deadlines for those which must be coming up soon, at least the non-cancelled ones).

SackAttack 11-21-2019 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3257092)
So if Trump resigns in the next few months, maybe for "medical reasons", and Pence becomes president - is he automatically the Republican nominee, can the Republicans old-school figure it out at the convention, or do the primaries have any meaning (the deadlines for those which must be coming up soon, at least the non-cancelled ones).


My guess is either a convention rule change to allow Pence to be nominated by acclamation, or something like 'some states hold their plebescites, but Trump doesn't get enough delegates and it becomes a wide-open nomination process.'

GrantDawg 11-21-2019 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3257058)
Just started Nunes cross examination and he starts with full on Ukranian conspiracy theory and DNC server. Christ how does anyone not see through this



Because they don't want to. The Republican base is not turning on the President for this. They have no problem with the President using whatever means possible to make Democrats look bad. They do not care, and will never care. They believe Dems do much worse every day, and the MSM supports it. In the end, it really doesn't matter the defense. No GOP senator is voting for removal, because they do not want to be primary-ed, which they definitely will.

Flasch186 11-21-2019 07:39 AM

Donald's on Twitter tilt this morning

kingfc22 11-21-2019 08:34 AM

If Trump wants to test his theory in shooting somebody on 5th Avenue. I hope he chooses Nunes.

spleen1015 11-21-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3257120)
If Trump wants to test his theory in shooting somebody on 5th Avenue. I hope he chooses Nunes.


Motion seconded!

Kodos 11-21-2019 09:27 AM

Or Moscow Mitch!

Flasch186 11-21-2019 10:23 AM

This is truly the face of an American Hero. Decades of service to our country and standing up to power in the face of intense pressure.


Thomkal 11-21-2019 10:54 AM

Israel's Netanyahu having a bad day-coalition govt attempt in Israel fails for a second time. And he's been indicted on Fraud, breach of trust, and bribery charges. I hope this makes him ineligible/less likely to be voted for in a third election if it happens so Israel can move past him

cartman 11-21-2019 12:42 PM

I thought the GOP were supposed to be the ones that master the message?



Atocep 11-21-2019 01:46 PM

Not a good day for Trump. Hill and Holmes testimonies destroyed every defense the GOP has used except the "trump was just being trump" and "it's not quid pro quo because it failed" defenses.

Lathum 11-21-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3257155)
Not a good day for Trump. Hill and Holmes testimonies destroyed every defense the GOP has used except the "trump was just being trump" and "it's not quid pro quo because it failed" defenses.


From what I hear they are still running with the “No one hears Trump say he
did it so he must be innocent”

PilotMan 11-21-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3257158)
From what I hear they are still running with the “No one hears Trump say he
did it so he must be innocent”



And the umpteen thousand men behind bars who were convicted on circumstantial evidence and the thousands who were convicted of conspiracy are sighing deeply.

Atocep 11-21-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3257136)
Israel's Netanyahu having a bad day-coalition govt attempt in Israel fails for a second time. And he's been indicted on Fraud, breach of trust, and bribery charges. I hope this makes him ineligible/less likely to be voted for in a third election if it happens so Israel can move past him


Maybe Barr can write a memo for him?

JediKooter 11-21-2019 04:54 PM

And once again ladies and gentlemen, the party of fiscal responsibility:

Trump golf cart rentals have now cost US taxpayers more than half a million dollars

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's something from each administration we could nit pick, but, most of this is from HIS properties. So yes, sure, F the Emoluments Clause in addition to being hypocritical about fiscal responsibility.

Galaril 11-21-2019 07:30 PM

Senate announces investigation into the Biden’s as predicted:
Lindsey Graham Begins Senate Investigation Into The Bidens

JediKooter 11-21-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3257176)
Senate announces investigation into the Biden’s as predicted:
Lindsey Graham Begins Senate Investigation Into The Bidens


Man, the GOP sure does have a passion for those windmills.

Atocep 11-21-2019 07:51 PM

Everyone can just refuse to cooperate right? That's how investigations work.

JPhillips 11-21-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3257178)
Everyone can just refuse to cooperate right? That's how investigations work.


That's how they work if they are sincere. If they are a sham, it's easy to find "witnesses" that will provide the testimony you're looking for. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Lindsay does more political damage.

GrantDawg 11-21-2019 08:35 PM

More on this, the White House plans on calling Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and the Whistleblower as a part of their defense in a Senate trial.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

JediKooter 11-22-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3257183)
More on this, the White House plans on calling Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and the Whistleblower as a part of their defense in a Senate trial.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk


They should refuse to show up and dare the GOP to complain about people ignoring subpoenas.

Edward64 11-22-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3257220)
They should refuse to show up and dare the GOP to complain about people ignoring subpoenas.


... or say I don't recall or I'm not a note taker.

Yesterday's testimonies showed to me that Sondland likely knew that investigating Burisma was same as investigating the Bidens. I sure hope he didn't get immunity, I would like to see him facing perjury.

JediKooter 11-22-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3257222)
... or say I don't recall or I'm not a note taker.

Yesterday's testimonies showed to me that Sondland likely knew that investigating Burisma was same as investigating the Bidens. I sure hope he didn't get immunity, I would like to see him facing perjury.


Haha! That would be hilarious to me if they did that. Or if they instead talk about how pretty much most of trump's spawn works for him or ask how giuliani's son is the 'Sports Liaison' for the white house.


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