If someone really believes the US Coast Guard sits by idly while a boat, containing legal/illegal people, is sinking off the coast of Florida ... I'd like to see the links.

I can clearly see some mis-judgements and errors, but willing to bet the US Coast Guard comes in to help in vast majority of cases.

They actually spend a large part of their time scouring the Keys for just that. It is a part of their mission, and they take that very seriously.

Absolutely. I don't understand the whataboutism or as many here like to call out, the "both sides".

Oh, maybe its not the actual saving (because we know that happens), maybe it's how they are treated on the Coast Guard boat or sent back if illegal?

I think our entire 6th fleet is there.


They sent out over a dozen Coast Guard vessels, three C-130s, three C-17s, along with whatever the Canadians sent.

If you think a fishing boat out of Alaska (which we just had a few weeks ago) or migrants coming from Haiti, the Bahamas, or Cuba receive that kind of response, I've got some bad news for you.

whoa where did you find that liost ?

I don't know why we keep arguing this, but again: Finding a fishing boat doesn't require the same level of requirement that it does to find a sub thousands of feet under water. It is like comparing apples and zebras.

There's like a thousand articles on the response to Titan. This one mentions the planes but is vague on what the additional "assets" the Air National Guard, Coast Guard, and Navy sent.

Here's How the Military Is Helping Search for the Lost Titanic-Bound Sub | Military.com

I have to say kudos to those that can look at, recover, take care of, autopsy etc. human remains after a horrendous event (Titan, airplane crashes etc.). I wonder if they are born somewhat immune or if their training has made them okay with seeing these situations. Probably both ... I know I couldn't sleep well after seeing.

My dad was a fire fighter. I think you get somewhat used to it, though I have found first responders and morticians have very morbid senses of humor. Fire fighters call burn victims "crispy critters" I believe in a way to make them less human. There were scenes my dad responded to that he refused to ever describe. As bad as burn scenes could be, car accidents are the ones that really got to him, especially kids.

My wife had a friend whose dad worked as a crime scene photographer for Atlanta Police. He on the other hand had no problem showing us his most gruesome pics. He had one of guy that jumped from the top floor of the Hyatt Regency downtown and landed half on a planter in the lobby. That one has never left me.

When I worked for Orkin mid 80's one of my accounts was the Compton Police Station and I was always escorted by someone I could best describe as Barney Fife, they didn't even let him have a gun. He was always eager to show me crime scene photos, that I really had no interest in seeing, but he literally shoved them into my face.

Another thing I learned from that place is how shoddy some crime scene evidence is maintained, it was eye opening.

Largely, in my experience, a learned response. As GD noted, there's a definite dark humor that's common among the various professions where that sort of thing is (relative to the rest of us) encountered more frequently.

I know just from my news gathering days you build up a certain resistance, as well as coping mechanisms. Every fire/police/EMT I ever knew had about 50x the armor to it I had and I was pretty fn detatched after 10 years or so. Go to enough fatal wrecks, fatal fires, drowning recoveries and you have to find a way to deal with it.

The thing is though, of the various ones I got to know even reasonably well, I don't know if there were any who I ever came across who didn't run into the occasional thing that was simply too much. That's part of my conviction that it's a learned / practiced response. If it were innate somehow then those things that break through would be less likely to come up IMO.

Accurate. One of my best friends is a firefighter in Cincinnati. He has seen some shit. Works in OTR which is a very bad area. HE is pretty much desensitized. Kids get him, he sees a lot of people who have ODed while driving, gun violence, etc...

Anderson Cooper directed a special presentation now on CNN about the entire week and the details of the sub. Fills in some much needed blanks.

I didn't realize the billionaire ALSO went into Space with Bezos.

I think it was only a matter of time...

I equate him to the vampire lord in Vampire Hunter D that lived for 1000s of years and was just bored with everything

The US Coast Guard is, by far, the most useful and productive not only of all the Armed Forces, but any part of the DHS, and also more than most police departments.

This is from a few years ago, but gets the point across:

My college roommate spent his whole life wanting to be a cop. Studied law enforcement at school and became a state trooper right out of school. Really tough, stoic guy. Worked for 15 years and one day took a call for an unresponsive child. The 1-year old had been beaten to death (I think the baby was barely alive when they arrived and died later at a hospital) by the father who was angry at the mother about something.

Anyway, said that was it and now works at a Farm & Fleet. And this isn't a guy who was easily rattled. He did emergency relief work after hurricanes and other disasters. I know he came across his share of dead bodies.

OTR has changed A LOT in the past 10 years. It's still got some very sketchy areas, but by and large, it's gentrified with lots of bars, breweries, and restaurants.

I know but he's been there 20+. It just started changing when we moved.

Actually changed houses recently because he is close to retiring.

I feel like this story belongs here

Millionaire CEO dies doing something stupid at his company's office party.