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bhlloy 10-08-2009 01:38 PM

I would add that May has a reputation as a guy who has a screw loose and isn't afraid to cheapshot somebody (see Kim Johnsson of the Wild in the 07 playoffs) if he feels a message needs to be sent.

He's not a great fighter at all anymore but in terms of "encouraging" people not to take runs at Detroit's star players or take a few extra shots after the whistle he's probably still pretty good value for the reason above.

Suburban Rhythm 10-08-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2137579)
3 games into this season and the best player has been Matt Carle. He's really improved from last year and him being paired with Pronger allows him to take more chances in the offensive zone. His play in his own end has improved also.

Emery gave up 5 goals but the defense left him out to dry on 3 of them. I am cautiously optimistic with him. Losing Betts for a month will hurt because that 4th line is actually decent. Betts and Laperrier are good on the PK and eat minutes that Richards and Carter had to last year. That'll make those two fresher.

We'll see how much they've improved again tonight. In my mind the Pens are still the team to beat in the East.


Penguins were garbage last night. They didn't even show up vs Phoenix.

10 penalties, both goals scored on the PP for the Coyotes (then the empty netter). Brent Johnson got the start and played pretty well-- to give Fleury off with tonight at Philly in mind.

Is the crowd booing Crosby yet?

Draft Dodger 10-08-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2137867)
I would add that May has a reputation as a guy who has a screw loose and isn't afraid to cheapshot somebody (see Kim Johnsson of the Wild in the 07 playoffs) if he feels a message needs to be sent.


or, you know, put a bounty on someone's head

Galaxy 10-08-2009 05:45 PM

Sabres host the Coyotes after five long days from it's season opener.

Dr. Sak 10-08-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2138054)
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Is the crowd booing Crosby yet?


Actually no. They were all at the Phillies game, got a call today that there were still 500 tix available. But I'm sure since the Phils lost, all the fans will be in a great mood tonight and will shower the Pens with nothing but love.

Suburban Rhythm 10-08-2009 10:06 PM

So that was actually pretty good game...until the final 5 seconds.

Richards does his best Georges Laraque impersonation, then Hartnell does his Mike Tyson.

samifan24 10-08-2009 10:58 PM

The Bruins played a great 20 minutes tonight. Unfortunately they forgot to show up for the last 40 minutes and lost 6-1. Two ugly losses in the first three. It's still early, though, and the Bruins get the Islanders and Colorado the next two games.

johnnyshaka 10-09-2009 12:10 AM

Boy, the Oilers have deserved better so far this season as they lost in a shootout tonight after the Flames tied it up with 1.5 seconds to go. They've also had several goals bounce off of their own players...I believe they've had one in each of their first three games.

Also lost Souray to a concussion after Iggy's stick got tangled in Souray's skate and they both went into the boards hard and awkwardly.

Dr. Sak 10-09-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2138256)
So that was actually pretty good game...until the final 5 seconds.

Richards does his best Georges Laraque impersonation, then Hartnell does his Mike Tyson.


If Letang stuck his fingers in his mouth, then Hartnell should have bit him. And if you are taking Staggy's words for it, well...you know what I am going to say about that.

Comparing what Richards did to Laraque??? There was no sliding...it wasn't even that bad. He was driving to the net.

I asked this to another one of my Pens fan friends...how can a team be so good yet have such whiny fans, and I'm referring to the Pens?

Travis 10-09-2009 10:41 AM

I can't wait to see Souray get a hold of Iginla. Be a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching Moreau step up, fall down, then eat a few shots with the linesmen in the way.

Sublime 2 10-09-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24 (Post 2138300)
The Bruins played a great 20 minutes tonight. Unfortunately they forgot to show up for the last 40 minutes and lost 6-1. Two ugly losses in the first three. It's still early, though, and the Bruins get the Islanders and Colorado the next two games.


What a terrible 2nd and 3rd period! They are not exactly firing out of the gates, but I think they can right the ship over the next couple of games. I'm really interested to see Tuuka play tomorrow.

Honolulu_Blue 10-09-2009 01:33 PM

I was glad to see the Wings finally win one, but they really only looked like the Wings for about a half of a period. The rest of the game the Hawks were really taking it to them. They were dictating the game and the pace of the game. In most games the last few years the Wings would be the ones dictating the play and carrying the puck the majority of the time. Granted, Chicago is a very good team, but it will be interesting to see how things come together this year.

So, I guess Chris Neil and Jason Spezza got into a slashing fight at practice today. Clearly the leadership void created by the Danny Heatley trade is beginning to take effect.

Dr. Sak 10-09-2009 02:11 PM

Holy crap!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294301

RomaGoth 10-09-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2138942)


Not a big surprise really. Graham James is a douche of epic proportion. Just ask Sheldon Kennedy.

Fidatelo 10-09-2009 02:31 PM

This rumour has followed Fleury for much of his entire career. I wonder if things would have ended differently for him had he acknowledged it earlier (in the sense that it may have spiritually freed him and given him strength to fight those demons then)?

Oilers9911 10-09-2009 02:38 PM

Selishly, I wish Theo had stepped up years ago so Sheldon kennedy wouldn't have had to stand up to it alone but who the hell knows how I'd react in a similar situation. Good for Theo for turning things around. I would like to give that book a read. This despite the fact that seeing him with that flaming C for crap of his jersey still makes me want to puke.

Honolulu_Blue 10-09-2009 02:54 PM

Ouch.

The Wings' road this year just became considerably tougher.

Johan Franzen is out 4 months with a torn ACL.


Red Wings' Johan Franzen out four months with torn knee ligament | Detroit Red Wings - - MLive.com

yacovfb 10-09-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2138452)
Comparing what Richards did to Laraque??? There was no sliding...it wasn't even that bad. He was driving to the net.


I'm not sure of the Laraque reference y'all are talking about so I can't compare it to that, but I did see the play last night. It wasn't too bad, definitely worse though than merely driving to the net as most people driving to the net stop where the goalie is.

What I don't get is this - Flyers fans, among others, get on Crosby for being a whiner, taking dives to draw penalties, etc. WTF was Richards doing last night? Dude crashes the crease, hits his arms on the goalpost and then curls into a ball holding his head? It was so exaggerated it was like like Rodney Dangerfield yelling "aw, my arm...I think it's broken" in Caddyshack.

Dr. Sak 10-09-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yacovfb (Post 2139001)
I'm not sure of the Laraque reference y'all are talking about so I can't compare it to that, but I did see the play last night. It wasn't too bad, definitely worse though than merely driving to the net as most people driving to the net stop where the goalie is.

What I don't get is this - Flyers fans, among others, get on Crosby for being a whiner, taking dives to draw penalties, etc. WTF was Richards doing last night? Dude crashes the crease, hits his arms on the goalpost and then curls into a ball holding his head? It was so exaggerated it was like like Rodney Dangerfield yelling "aw, my arm...I think it's broken" in Caddyshack.


Do a youtube search for George Laraque slide tackle Biron. You'll see.

I agree with Richards, but that's seems to be the M.O with this league more and more.

No suspension for Hartnell. He said the following:
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“[Letang] had me in a headlock, his free hand was in there, and I can’t tell you what happened but I definitely didn’t bite him,” said Hartnell after practice this morning at the Virtua Center Flyers Skate Zone. “I know he was complaining like he did, but his bare hand was scratching my face and hands were everywhere.”

Edit: I don't think Crosby does it as much as when he first came into the league. To be honest the guy didn't bitch at all in the playoffs.

RomaGoth 10-09-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2138993)
Ouch.

The Wings' road this year just became considerably tougher.

Johan Franzen is out 4 months with a torn ACL.


Red Wings' Johan Franzen out four months with torn knee ligament | Detroit Red Wings - - MLive.com


Yeah I just saw this. Not good. Not good at all.

DeToxRox 10-09-2009 04:27 PM

With Franzen out I am wondering how they decide to do the lines now. Babcock loves Fil's line but he'd make most sense to move up to the 2nd line and then have Helm center the third line. That's a big responsibility for Helm though. I could see Abdelkader moved to the 2nd line for a while to put a big body who can skate with Dats and Holmer also.

I am intrigued to see how it pans out as much as it sucks.

Suburban Rhythm 10-09-2009 07:50 PM

The Richards thing I don't think was all that bad, but he certainly didn't try pulling up. It wasn't as intentional as Laraque's, but it's not like he was following the puck- the defenseman in front blocks the original shot.

Take this opinion with a grain of salt-- listening to NHL on XM, they had Pierre McGuire, who I think we can all agree is a huge fan of whatever the flavor of the week is, on the morning show. He loves Crosby, he loves Richards, he loves Ovechkin.

He said he's known Letang since he was still in juniors, and he's never been anything but an honest kid, and he can't see him making this up.

As far as saying Letang stuck his fingers in Hartnell's mouth...not sure what to say. Letang is pushing the net of it's moorings, with Richards in the net, and Hartnell tackles him from behind. I can think of alot of reactions from Letang, but dropping his gloves and sticking his fingers in Hartnell's mouth isn't one of them.

He's not going to get suspended, there is no clear evidence.

Suburban Rhythm 10-09-2009 08:32 PM

Not smart enough to embed the file

YouTube - Pittsburgh Penguins vs Philadelphia Flyers 10-08-2009 Last Seconds and Tanger Injury

At the 2:00 mark, it's a different angle than I had previously seen.
Sure looks like Richards intends to make contact. I sure he was off balance/Kunitz shoved him/the wind was blowing, but he leans into Fleury.

Suburban Rhythm 10-09-2009 08:33 PM

On a lighter note, this is pretty good


bhlloy 10-11-2009 03:29 PM

Apparently Bettman met with Quebec City officials about moving a team back to Quebec as the Nordiques? That would be freaking awesome, would love to see any of the 3 (Hartford, Winnipeg, QC) get "their" team back and all the old school rivalries that come with it. Putting the second team back in French Canada would be an added bonus, and the uniforms are also the best in the NHL IMO.

Chief Rum 10-11-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2140437)
Apparently Bettman met with Quebec City officials about moving a team back to Quebec as the Nordiques? That would be freaking awesome, would love to see any of the 3 (Hartford, Winnipeg, QC) get "their" team back and all the old school rivalries that come with it. Putting the second team back in French Canada would be an added bonus, and the uniforms are also the best in the NHL IMO.


My question becomes...what team?

Clearly Bettman's not interested in moving the Yotes.

BTW, nice win for the Ducks last night, huh? Good to come back. Man, to get that tie goal with 16 secs left. Dr. Sak's probably still mad about that.

bhlloy 10-11-2009 04:11 PM

Yotes will have to move, Bettman knows this. He's saving face by not letting the Balsillie bid win but with a team bleeding that much money (and they could be the worst team in the league this year, that's not going to help) and no interested buyers in sight, they have to go somewhere. I also think one of the Florida teams moves in the next 3-5 years.

Unbelievable game last night, just an incredible tying goal from the open net save and keep in the zone by Getz to the ridiculous saucer pass from Niedermayer to the finish. Selanne looks really good so far and Hiller looked much better than his first start as well.

samifan24 10-11-2009 04:18 PM

I'm afraid Bettman will never bring the Whale back to Hartford.

Logan 10-11-2009 06:26 PM

Starting to get excited about this Rangers team...

Chief Rum 10-11-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2140612)
Starting to get excited about this Rangers team...


Yeah, good game for the Rangers. The Ducks were playing awful. Only took 18 shots. Don't know if maybe having to play an afternoon game after an overtime night game the night before had anything to do with it, but, hey, not like New York is all that far away from Philly.

Dr. Sak 10-11-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2140439)
BTW, nice win for the Ducks last night, huh? Good to come back. Man, to get that tie goal with 16 secs left. Dr. Sak's probably still mad about that.


I heard it was a great play by Getzlaf to keep the puck in. I listened to it on the radio. I wish the Flyers would've held on but Anaheim is one of the best if not the best team in the west. So I'm not that upset.

Suburban Rhythm 10-11-2009 09:15 PM

This is pretty classic on the Letang- Hartnell case.

Cherry's comments...I don't really expect anything of value there anymore.

But McLean's summary at the end- GOLD

YouTube - Don Cherry talks about Scott Hartnell's Bite

Dr. Sak 10-11-2009 09:22 PM

If Letang had his finger in Hartnell's mouth, he deserved to get it bitten.

Suburban Rhythm 10-11-2009 09:29 PM

We could go back and forth for ages, but it is funny that while there is no video evidence of the bite truly happening, Cherry is certain it is because Letang put his fingers in Hartnell's mouth.

Hundreds of players a year get facewashes or hangs in their face after the whistle, but from what I can remember, only two-- Hartnell and Ruutu (last season?)-- have been accused of biting someone.

Dr. Sak 10-11-2009 09:34 PM

I'm just making a general statement. I don't know if he bit him out right, if Letang had his fingers in his mouth and he bit him, or when they got slammed to the ice his jaw got jammed shut and he bit him there.

Galaxy 10-11-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2138993)
Ouch.

The Wings' road this year just became considerably tougher.

Johan Franzen is out 4 months with a torn ACL.


Red Wings' Johan Franzen out four months with torn knee ligament | Detroit Red Wings - - MLive.com


Ouch...Looking forward to the Wings-Sabres game Tuesday. Miller has been stellar in net (and the defense). I just hope our offense and powerplay can actually convert our high shot count into goals.

19-year-old rookie Tyler Myers is looking like he might develop into one the league's top defensemen. Already is showing he is the best on the team right now.

samifan24 10-12-2009 03:44 PM

Hey, Bruins lost to the Avalanche. Awesome start to the season!

RomaGoth 10-12-2009 04:44 PM

Hah. I like Chelios, but he really needs to hang up his skates.

Chris Chelios, 47, works out with AHL's Chicago Wolves - ESPN Chicago


My favorite part of the story:

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The 47-year-old Chelios said he wants to help his chances of "getting back in the NHL someday."

Honolulu_Blue 10-12-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth (Post 2141282)
Hah. I like Chelios, but he really needs to hang up his skates.

Chris Chelios, 47, works out with AHL's Chicago Wolves - ESPN Chicago


My favorite part of the story:


I say, more power to him.

If he loves the game that much, why should he stop playing? It's not like he's going to tarnish his career. Everyone knows what Chelios was in his prime and know that he's not quite the same player, but still can add some value. I think his NHL days are pretty much numbered, but if he wants to give it a shot, I say "go for it."

Good luck, Chris Chelios. Thanks for your time as a Wing and I hope you make it back to the NHL.

bbor 10-12-2009 06:43 PM

I agree...if he is not embarassing himself then i say more power to him.

bbor 10-12-2009 06:44 PM

Dola....Leafs are so desperate for a goal they have Jamal Mayers on the PP.

Oh lord help me.

Bruins should enjoy their lottery pick.

bbor 10-12-2009 06:46 PM

Triple dola..of course as i say that the Leafs score.2-1 NYR

Chubby 10-12-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 2140868)
Ouch...Looking forward to the Wings-Sabres game Tuesday. Miller has been stellar in net (and the defense). I just hope our offense and powerplay can actually convert our high shot count into goals.

19-year-old rookie Tyler Myers is looking like he might develop into one the league's top defensemen. Already is showing he is the best on the team right now.


Which means stupid Darcy doesn't extend him on time and gets backed into a Vanek-contract again... Darcy needs to go!

Myers is looking good, I think when he was down on the ice last game he was trying to draw a penalty. I don't really buy his "I got the wind knocked out of me" when he was laying listless.

Logan 10-12-2009 09:11 PM

Rangers put up a 4 spot in the 3rd to beat TOR 7-2.

Dr. Sak 10-12-2009 09:12 PM

What worse...the Leafs or Coyotes??

Maple Leafs 10-12-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2141618)
What worse...the Leafs or Coyotes??

Leafs. At least Coyotes fans won't have to put up with this shit for more than another year or two.

Honolulu_Blue 10-12-2009 09:40 PM

The Flames/Blackhawks game on Versus has been great. The Flames storm out to a 5-0 lead only to see the Blackhawks storm back and tie it up at 5-5. There was a span of a few minutes in the second period where the Blackhawks scored 3 goals to make 5-4.

Iginla, sensing the tide turning, drops the gloves and fights Brower right after the face-off following the 4th Blackhawks goal. He handles himself pretty well and settles things down for his team for at least the rest of the second period. That sequence right there is why there is no sport better than hockey.

And the Blackhawks just won it in overtime: 6-5.

watravaler 10-12-2009 09:40 PM

LMAO at Calgary

bbor 10-12-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 2141698)
Leafs. At least Coyotes fans won't have to put up with this shit for more than another year or two.


Thank god the Yotes did'nt move to Hamilton.I could'nt stand to watch that much shit hockey.

bbor 10-12-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 2141698)
Leafs. At least Coyotes fans won't have to put up with this shit for more than another year or two.


Thank god the Yotes did'nt move to Hamilton.I could'nt stand to watch that much shit hockey.


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