Front Office Football Central

Front Office Football Central (https://forums.operationsports.com/fofc//index.php)
-   Werewolf Games (https://forums.operationsports.com/fofc//forumdisplay.php?f=31)
-   -   Mafia Town - GAME OVER (Town Wins) (https://forums.operationsports.com/fofc//showthread.php?t=90504)

dubb93 08-27-2015 05:56 PM

I also hate the 2p deadline. I'm a third shifter nowadays and I generally sleep until around 3 or 4.

CrimsonFox 08-27-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3050013)
Yea, well, the werewolf is "neutral evil." He's bad. He's not working with the mafia, but he's working for himself and I would guess his win condition is likely to kill everyone but himself.

Some of the neutral roles will have village friendly, if not entirely straight villager, win conditions. What I'm saying is that in Town of Salem some of the neutral roles will win with the village, some will win with the baddies, and some will win just by themselves.

It's not just going to be straight win with the mafia or win with the village. All of the neutral roles in Town of Salem have a condition that must first be met and then a "win by" following that.

For instance a role that I'm very familiar with from that game is the exe. It's in basically every Town of Salem game you will play as it's a default role. The exe is one that wins on his own. He must first get the town to lynch his target and then he must get himself lynched after that in order to win. He's not working with the town or the mafia.

Many of the killing roles that are in Town of Salem, such as the serial killer (another default role in that game), intentionally work against the mafia and one of their win conditions is to eliminate all of the mafia.

So by itself neutral doesn't mean bad. It depends on the actual role. With only 8 villagers (9 max if we got lucky with random) it probably is not prudent to just cast away all the neutral roles as evil. We will quickly find ourselves outnumbered and lacking key votes when we need them.


trippy

thanks for the incite

CrimsonFox 08-27-2015 06:26 PM

can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?

EagleFan 08-27-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3050022)
can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?


Yes. The Jester could, though it would take a lot to happen for that but I have seen that happen. A lone serial killer or arsonist could.

Survivor would need many things to fall exactly right to win alone and that would take a game of rainbow to be honest.


Rainbow - a game with 2 town (jailer, veteran), 2 mafia (godfather, mafioso), 2 witches, 2 arsonists, 2 serial killers, 2 survivors, 2 amnesiacs and 1 random any. These games are INTENSE.... AND FUN!!!

dubb93 08-27-2015 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3050022)
can any role steal the win and win solo?

the survivor perhaps?


I've never really seen the survivor in Town of Salem, but a quick guess based on how I know that game works I would say the survivor would win either way as long as he's alive, but be more willing to work with the village/non killing roles, since he doesn't want to get lynched or night killed.

I would say that the werewolf would likely be a role that could steal the win and win solo since he's neutral evil and unlikely to be working with anyone.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 3050027)
I've never really seen the survivor in Town of Salem, but a quick guess based on how I know that game works I would say the survivor would win either way as long as he's alive, but be more willing to work with the village/non killing roles, since he doesn't want to get lynched or night killed.

I would say that the werewolf would likely be a role that could steal the win and win solo since he's neutral evil and unlikely to be working with anyone.


Have only seen them in Chaos All Any or Chaos Rainbow (rainbow has 2 in every game, or 3 if random turns up survivor).

EagleFan 08-27-2015 06:45 PM

Oh, now that we are part of the way into the game... we should try getting a group together in Town of Salem sometime. :)

CrimsonFox 08-27-2015 06:58 PM

what?

dubb93 08-27-2015 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3050031)
what?


hxxps://www.blankmediagames.com/

CrimsonFox 08-27-2015 08:25 PM

cute :) but we could, ya know, actually play this game first.
(if you wanna...)

EagleFan 08-27-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3050048)
cute :) but we could, ya know, actually play this game first.
(if you wanna...)


Just trying to drum up some interest. :)

EagleFan 08-27-2015 09:01 PM

Day 3 Deadline

Night actions due by 10 PM EST. Sending out jail notices shortly, will post when they have been sent out.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 09:04 PM

Sent the jail notice. That player may not post in thread until the next day has begun.

Night orders due at 10.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 09:38 PM

I have found out that some friends are getting together tomorrow evening. I will post a work around schedule for tomorrow.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 10:01 PM

deadline

Processing the night results.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 10:09 PM

Night 3 Results

There were no deaths tonight.

Nomination deadline for Day 4 will be 5 PM EST tomorrow as I will be out in the evening so I will extend all deadlines.

The lynch vote deadline will be Midnight tomorrow. The Night deadline will be 1 AM.

Sorry for the late change for tomorrow.

EagleFan 08-27-2015 10:11 PM

Stepping away for a few. Daughter wants me to watch/help her play Batman.

dubb93 08-27-2015 10:13 PM

We either had a block or the mafia missed the deadline.

Either way this far into the game I'm sure there is some good info out there at this point. We really need to nominate today.

Ragone 08-27-2015 11:15 PM

Just got back into town.. gonna read up on this thread.. i'm guessing someone got blocked based off a quick skim

well do some looking around tomorrow morning

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 02:32 AM

hey raggy ! great! catch up as much as you can ! we need you! :)

EagleFan 08-28-2015 08:15 AM

Tonight is a full moon.

timmae 08-28-2015 08:52 AM

vote danny

Until there is some proof of life there.

My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.

There will be a ww attack tonight. Not good.

Ziiggy 08-28-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3050117)
vote danny

Until there is some proof of life there.

My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.

There will be a ww attack tonight. Not good.


So in a goodtimmae world that would mean the mafia has an escort role (or a village blocker mistargeted) so at minimum there is the Godfather and an escort and they were either blocked last night, or didn't put in a kill order. Any other pertinent action during the night?

EagleFan 08-28-2015 10:52 AM

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 322:

Danny 1 - timmae (322)

britrock88 08-28-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziiggy (Post 3050136)
So in a goodtimmae world that would mean the mafia has an escort role (or a village blocker mistargeted) so at minimum there is the Godfather and an escort and they were either blocked last night, or didn't put in a kill order. Any other pertinent action during the night?


(This conjecture doesn't account for the random role.)

Shoveler was the Escort and was killed by the WW. A role-block of someone in timmae's probably came from a Consort. As for the mafia, they may have failed to put in an order; had that order thwarted by the Doctor or Jailor; or been unsuccessful in attempting to NK the Survivor, Serial Killer, or Executioner.

britrock88 08-28-2015 10:57 AM

nominate Danny

Would like to see him join in, too.

Ziiggy 08-28-2015 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3050140)
(This conjecture doesn't account for the random role.)

Shoveler was the Escort and was killed by the WW. A role-block of someone in timmae's probably came from a Consort. As for the mafia, they may have failed to put in an order; had that order thwarted by the Doctor or Jailor; or been unsuccessful in attempting to NK the Survivor, Serial Killer, or Executioner.


Right, meant consort, not escort, and forgot about the immune roles. Vote Danny's my first choice too, but I wouldn't be against nominating utr lighthousekeeper. He's posted a couple times and put in a drive-by vote and that's about it.

lighthousekeeper 08-28-2015 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3050117)
My action was blocked last night. Not sure what that means for other actions. I.e. Night kills.


well here's a paranoid theory: you are the godfather, your action was blocked last night, there were no kills last night. and you're just having fun by revealing some clues in broad daylight.

cheekimonk 08-28-2015 12:08 PM

At best, he's under the radar because he's shady. At worst, we know what role we're missing.

vote danny

Chief Rum 08-28-2015 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3042754)
I will play. I just have to be better about remembering to come here and read and participate


Hey, guys, let's not be so quick to lynch him. It's likely Danny has forgotten to check back in. He did post after the game start, but it was only to offer condolences to EF over his friend's passing.

I sent Danny a FB message to remind him. Hopefully he will check in today.

EagleFan 08-28-2015 12:23 PM

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 322:

Danny 3 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329)

timmae 08-28-2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3050163)
Hey, guys, let's not be so quick to lynch him. It's likely Danny has forgotten to check back in. He did post after the game start, but it was only to offer condolences to EF over his friend's passing.

I sent Danny a FB message to remind him. Hopefully he will check in today.


I am def willing to reassess based on Danny showing up.

timmae 08-28-2015 01:52 PM

I think we have 3 hours left to nomination.

britrock88 08-28-2015 01:58 PM

vote Danny

He can always appear and relieve us, too. :)

britrock88 08-28-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper (Post 3050147)
well here's a paranoid theory: you are the godfather, your action was blocked last night, there were no kills last night. and you're just having fun by revealing some clues in broad daylight.


I don't think he would have known the identities of the folks that visited Autumn on N1 if he were the godfather, though.

timmae 08-28-2015 01:58 PM

Chief... if Danny is our only viable candidate are you unwilling to vote him?

dubb93 08-28-2015 02:01 PM

Yea I'm down to role with the theory that mafia didn't put in an order. I think I'm the one that started that train. Danny can always show up and we can vote him innocent if we need to.

Vote Danny

Zinto 08-28-2015 02:16 PM

Sure I will vote Danny. Just so we keep discussions open for the rest of the day.

Vote Danny

EagleFan 08-28-2015 02:32 PM

Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 338:

Danny 6 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329), britrock88 (334), dubb93 (337), Zinto (338)

Ziiggy 08-28-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3050194)
Nomination Votes

7 required to send to lynch vote

As of post 338:

Danny 6 - timmae (322), britrock88 (326), cheekimonk (329), britrock88 (334), dubb93 (337), Zinto (338)


Post 327 - is putting votes in the middle of a sentence a faux pas? If so, sorry won't do it again.

lighthousekeeper 08-28-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3050186)
I don't think he would have known the identities of the folks that visited Autumn on N1 if he were the godfather, though.


right i forgot about that.

EagleFan 08-28-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziiggy (Post 3050196)
Post 327 - is putting votes in the middle of a sentence a faux pas? If so, sorry won't do it again.


Didn't see it. Generally best not to, for just such a reason.

EagleFan 08-28-2015 03:20 PM

Danny is up for lynch. We have moved into the Lynch vote stage.

Please vote guilty or innocent on Danny.

Vote deadline is midnight.

lighthousekeeper 08-28-2015 03:23 PM

^
Quote:

lunch
confirmed eaglefan is werewolf

EagleFan 08-28-2015 03:25 PM

I've been discovered!

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 03:33 PM

i don't care if danny is playing or not or maybe we can get a sub but i don't care of that right now either.
My thought is this. If he's a good role and we kill him, that's bad.
If he's a bad role that isn't sending in his orders and we kill him it doesn't matter

i can't believe danny would just not post in a game and is only sending in pm actions and not juice up the thread with dannyness.

The Jackal 08-28-2015 03:33 PM

sorry guys i'm running a fever today, cooped up in my apartment napping

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 03:34 PM

you caught it from me :P

The Jackal 08-28-2015 03:38 PM

the internet is transmitting real viruses now? someone get me some holy water

The Jackal 08-28-2015 03:38 PM

i agree that it would be unlike danny to be submitting actions as a bad guy and being silent in the thread

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3050216)
the internet is transmitting real viruses now? someone get me some holy water


*flicks it on you cybernetically*


ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

britrock88 08-28-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3050213)
i don't care if danny is playing or not or maybe we can get a sub but i don't care of that right now either.
My thought is this. If he's a good role and we kill him, that's bad.
If he's a bad role that isn't sending in his orders and we kill him it doesn't matter

i can't believe danny would just not post in a game and is only sending in pm actions and not juice up the thread with dannyness.


That's a great point, frankly.

Chief Rum 08-28-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3050187)
Chief... if Danny is our only viable candidate are you unwilling to vote him?


Haven't decided. Just hate to vote a guy who said he may forget the game from time to time, especially since his resulting UTR-ness has nothing to do with what role he has (which may be a good one).

But, yeah, we can't leave him hanging out there forever either.

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 03:56 PM

he could be one of those mundane regular mafia or neutral people too.

Chief Rum 08-28-2015 03:58 PM

VOTE INNOCENT

(or not yet guilty)

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 04:06 PM

we vote in thread or PM?

Ragone 08-28-2015 04:33 PM

I have a hunch Danny is likely a easy target for the mafia people looking to take out someone who is likely innocent and cannot defend themselves.

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 04:42 PM

vote innocent for now.
not sure if this is how we vote but just in case.

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 04:43 PM

hi brit

britrock88 08-28-2015 05:03 PM

Hi, Fox!

The Jackal 08-28-2015 05:19 PM

vote innocent

timmae 08-28-2015 05:46 PM

At least we garnered some information (or wifom maybe) from lynch talk today. D1 and D2 was worthless.

Let the bloodbath ensue.

Zinto 08-28-2015 05:54 PM

Yeah I think putting Danny up and deciding not to lynch him is not a bad thing. It keeps conversation going throughout the day instead of it ending at the first deadline.

dubb93 08-28-2015 06:08 PM

I honestly believe Danny is as good as any to be mafia. If he shows back up tonight I don't want him to feel like he is in the clear and has nothing to worry about. I also feel like there could be a connection between CR and Danny where CR really doesn't want Danny lynched which is setting something off inside my head.

Guilty

dubb93 08-28-2015 06:09 PM

Forgot the word vote.

Vote Guilty

cheekimonk 08-28-2015 06:09 PM

I stand by my best case/worst case post:

vote GUILTY

dubb93 08-28-2015 08:38 PM

My current count:

Innocent (3): Chief Rum [355], Crimsonfox [358], The Jackal [361]
Guilty (2): Dubb93 [364], cheekimonk [366]

Yet to vote: Zinto, timmae, britrock, Ragone, autumn, danny, lighthousekeeper, ziiggy

lighthousekeeper 08-28-2015 08:40 PM

vote guilty

timmae 08-28-2015 08:44 PM

vote guilty

For science.

dubb93 08-28-2015 08:55 PM

My current count:

Guilty (4): Dubb93 [364], cheekimonk [366], lighthousekeepr [368], timmae [369]
Innocent (3): Chief Rum [355], Crimsonfox [358], The Jackal [361]


Yet to vote (6): Zinto, britrock, Ragone, autumn, danny, ziiggy

Zinto 08-28-2015 08:57 PM

Vote Innocent

Zinto 08-28-2015 08:58 PM

For now. If Danny doesn't show up before the deadline I will move my vote so we don't spend more days dealing with the Danny no show.

Ragone 08-28-2015 09:27 PM

Vote Innocent Innocent until proven guilty.. We really have no proof one way or the other... this seems like a easy ploy by mafia to snag a easy kill..

dubb93 08-28-2015 10:03 PM

Or any easy way for the mafia to waste our tomorrow with more Danny nonsense.

EagleFan 08-28-2015 11:16 PM

Lynch votes

As of Post 374:

Guilty 4 - dubb93 (365), cheekimonk (366), lighthousekeeper (368), timmae (369)
Innocent 5 - Chief Rum (355), CrimsonFox (358), The Jackal (361), Zinto (371), Ragons (373)

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 11:18 PM

definitely staying here now

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 11:19 PM

especially since there may be
a) roles out there that can tell us what danny's role is
and
b) possible replacement of danny

EagleFan 08-28-2015 11:21 PM

Have a bunch of pm;s to sort through.

Ziiggy 08-28-2015 11:33 PM

Well this is a conundrum. First thought is I don’t much like lynching afks early as it usually turns out to be a villager. But on the other hand, most early lynches do also, and as we sit, it’s not that “early” anymore. Also, in this case there are not as many villagers due to the neutrals so better odds to hit a non-villager. Thing I’m not even close to being sure of is whether or not it’s more likely the mafia would vote innocent or guilty in this situation. I’m slightly leaning to the former though.
Vote Guilty

EagleFan 08-28-2015 11:36 PM

Lynch votes

As of Post 379:

Guilty 5 - dubb93 (365), cheekimonk (366), lighthousekeeper (368), timmae (369), Ziiggy (379)
Innocent 5 - Chief Rum (355), CrimsonFox (358), The Jackal (361), Zinto (371), Ragons (373)

CrimsonFox 08-28-2015 11:38 PM

reminder that it's a fullmoon tonight.

high likelihood of villager dying.

if danny happens to be villager we'll be taking a 2 villager hit.
possibly more.

EagleFan 08-28-2015 11:57 PM

Just a few minutes until the lynch vote deadline.

EagleFan 08-29-2015 12:01 AM

deadline

EagleFan 08-29-2015 12:02 AM

The lynch could not be decided upon, Danny lives another day.

The night has begun.

Please have your night actions in by 1 AM (if not already sent).

EagleFan 08-29-2015 12:54 AM

About 6 minutes left before deadline.

EagleFan 08-29-2015 01:01 AM

Deadline

Give me a couple to process the bloodbath... I mean results...

EagleFan 08-29-2015 01:20 AM

Night 4 Results (holy crap is the best description)

You awaken to find a pile of bodies...


timmae has been killed by the mafia.

You found a will next to the body...
"My profession is Town Lookout"

You found a death note next to the body...
"We know who you are, Ragone. Better find a corner to hide in!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Crime Syndicate"

timmae was a town lookout.


You find Ragone on the ground. He was mauled by a werewolf.

You found no will or death note.

Ragone was the town veteran.


You find Chief Rum dead on the ground. He was incinerated by an arsonist.

You find a will next to the body:
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

You did not find a death note.

Chief Rum was the Godfather.


You find CrimsonFox dead. He was incinerated by an arsonist.

You find a will next to the body:
"Look ye now on words before ye
They swim and dance upon the page
Now thou seeest they float in a circle
and spell out that I am the medium all robed and green
I am sensing...am sensing....a presence....yes.....it were a great man, one with a shovel
this shoveler was murdereded was he by the mafioso TJFA (or whatever those initials are...they ist quite fuzzy to read)...who then died at the claws of the werewolf. So deaths occur simultaneously I think. and the godfather ordered shoveler's death
Farewell my friends...catch the arsonist...CF"

You find no death note.

CrimsonFox was a town medium.


You find Ziiggy dead on the ground. He was shot by the veteran.

You find a will next to the body:
Scratch
Scratch
Scratch Scratch Scratch
Slash Bite Grrrrr
Awoooooooooooooooooo

You find no death note.

Ziiggy was a werewolf.

EagleFan 08-29-2015 01:24 AM

Nomination Deadline is 2 PM EST on Monday. 5 votes are needed to nominate for lynch.

EagleFan 08-29-2015 01:28 AM

Updated for Chief's will. Missed that earlier.

dubb93 08-29-2015 01:51 AM

CR was covering for Danny. I said it yesterday, I say it again right now.

dubb93 08-29-2015 01:52 AM

And holy crap, what a blood bath. 5 dead. Wow.

lighthousekeeper 08-29-2015 01:55 AM

good job ragone

Autumn 08-29-2015 09:52 AM

wow, what the heck.

Sorry I disappeared yesterday, got caught up with work and kids again. This is a crazy mess.

The Jackal 08-29-2015 09:59 AM

good lord

Autumn 08-29-2015 10:05 AM

Hmm, looking back over the roles we should keep in mind hte Mafia could have a Disguiser, in which case we might be mistaken about one of the dead so far.

Autumn 08-29-2015 10:14 AM

Timmae said he was blocked, which suggests a Mafia Consort, or a random Escort. (Any other possiblities?) The note from the mafia kill suggests that the mafia knew ragone was a werewolf, which suggest they have whatever role it is that scans for roles, right? Is there another way they would know what he was?

Autumn 08-29-2015 10:18 AM

There are a limited number of roles left that anyone could be, and half of them are good guys. I'm wondering if it's time for good guys to reveal roles and what we know, and allow us to control the vote going forward. There will be fake reveals of course, but we might have enough info to parse those out.

Autumn 08-29-2015 10:24 AM

Only two people were doused by the arsonist, and then last night he ignited. But he should have had one other shot at dousing, is that correct? Does anyone have a note of what nights he doused who?

Autumn 08-29-2015 11:00 AM

On rereading I realize I was wrong about the Disguiser, that couldn't be it.

Autumn 08-29-2015 11:04 AM

Seems Chief never came out that he had been doused, which is interesting. I odn't see anyone claiming to have been jailed nights 3 and 4 either.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:01 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.