Something I've always wondered:

Does player attribute growth benefit from them playing in internationals?

Also, how do I sign up mentors, or does it happen naturally?

If you go to player interaction you can choose to "link" a player with another and that's the whole mentoring/tutoring thing.

I'm really loving this game. After I got sacked from Chicago and Australia I declared interest with Wolverhampton and the next day they fired their current manager and hired me. We're doing awesome right now and are looking to promote in the Championship next season. But this news article caught my attention:

"Since his arrival at Molineux, one thing that new Wolverhampton Wanderes manager Dan cannot be accused of is failing to tell his players how to find the net.

Wolves have delighted their fans by smashing a mighty twenty-nine goals past their opposition in just fifteen mathes, notching up eight wins in the process."

just cool shit like that is why i love this game

But can you expand the stadium 5 seats at a time? :)

come on those were the most impressive 5 seats in the history of sports

I was curious when it asked me to give instructions twice for Adu and Convey. First time this has happened.

A little off topic, but cool. I just saw an add on MLS home page for WSM 2007. Link takes you to Amazon.com.

Thanks. So if I don't have a drop-down under the link section, I assume that means they can't mentor anyone?

that is what I assume too. One way to find your mentors is to go through your youngsters and see which one has a link to be mentored (or tutored as stated in the game). The link works both ways...

FM

it's the player to be mentored, not the mentoree

So if you want Joey Bagofdonuts to be mentored by Henry Whatshisname, you'd go to Joey Bagofdonuts's player page, and choose "player interaction" and say one of the options, like "Think Joey Bagofdonuts would benefit from adopting Henry Whatshisname's approach to the game"

What's Bagofdonuts' PA?

He's a -5.. but the rest is all random 0's.. he'll always be decent, you never know what you're gonna get out of Bagofdonuts

(Grin, Duck, Run)

beat me to it

Does this Joey Bagofdonuts fella happen to know when the digital download will be released??? Maybe he could ask Henry Whatshisname???

I got WWSM from Amazon today... just letting people know.

I'm not the Marc's.. but I would think from what they said this week or next week.. I'm sure they're ready to chuck it themselves

Yeah they said this week minimum in that "other" thread... :)

Same.

You may release the patch now.

Thanks for letting us know - we'd been waiting on your permission ;)

(more seriously it shouldn't be 'too' much longer - however we obviously need to ensure it is rigorously tested before its released into the wild, it'll definitely be with everyone before xmas thats all I can indicate at present)

WTF IS THE DEAL WITH MY LAPTOP DYING LITERALLY 14 HOURS BEFORE FM ARRIVES ON MY DOORSTEP!?!?!?!?

OTOH...I will have a brand new dual-core 2gb RAM, 240gb HD monster to play WINDOWED fm2007 on as of tomorrow WHILE watching TV with the included analog tv tuner

woot!

This game is super duper fast and beautiful with all the wallpapers and the team icons. REally nicely done, well worth every penny, so far.

I got my copy from Amazon today so it looks like everyone should be getting their copies over the next week or so.

The chance of me buying this game is shrinking very fast. When college fb bowls, college basketball, NFL playoffs and holidays fast apoaching. I am sure soccer will become an afterthough. I've heard great things about your game Marc, congrats on another fine release!

Ditto my just arrived - so Amazon must have got in a big batch.

Now I'm not sure if I want to start a career or wait for the patch.

Here's a solution.

Start a career as a club you couldn't normally give a flip about.

Then fire things up 'for real' come the patch.

Sorry to hear that you've escaped this year - hopefully we'll snare you next time around .... ;)

I'm halfway through the 2009/2010 season in my WBA career.

That is easily the longest I've stuck with any one CM/FM career. I'm not sure if things are finally just clicking for me in terms of understanding, or what, but I think this is going to be the version that takes hold long-term for me.

I'm not sure I'm understanding the 'future fee' clause properly.

I have a kid out on loan who has no future with my club, and he's got a 'future fee' of $150k from the loaning side.

They just came in and offered me $3k for him. They aren't obligated to offer me the 'future fee,' but if they offer it, I have to let the player go? Do I have that right?

This means that they can opt to purchase him for that amount but its not something they 'have' to do (ie. you are correct).

One thing to bear in mind is also 'drumming up business' - if a club is interested in a player who's surplus to requirements, it might be worth offering him around to other clubs in an attempt to get a bidding war going ... nothing like two teams (or more) squabbling over a player to drive up the price ;)

I used to play CM/FM all the time up to around FM05. However I missed out on FM06 because of time problems and I'm afraid that FM07 just looks like too much hard work.

Congratulations to SpInG for getting what they've always been looking for - a football sim. Unfortunately I'm left facing the fact that managing a team, as accurately reflected in the game (sorry, sim), probably isn't quite as much fun as you'd expect. It's become like a job.

We try hard to ensure that as we add more features the game doesn't become too complicated for people - most tasks you can leave to the assistant if you don't want to do it yourself ..... and there's always the PSP version if you preferred a slightly simpler and faster game ;)

Yeah, my first reaction when the PSP version came out was "are you going to release a PC version of it". It seemed to fill the criteria of what lots of people were wanting from CM4 (CM0102 with a better game engine and pretty dots to watch). Unfortunately there's no way I'm getting a PSP.

I think you've done a great job with the sim. The scouting seems much better and the whole thing seems beautifully well-designed. I participate on a board with people who love FM07. But I just can't get into it. I know you can leave lots of stuff up to the ass man but in the end you always worry that you're not going to be as successful as a result. So when you lose the key promotional battle on the last day, you're left thinking "I bet I could have gone up if I'd taken the time to set my own training or customised my tactics for every game" etc etc. I get the same feeling when I miss out on a play-off spot in FOF if I'm quicksimming but as a year requires far less of a time-investment than FM it's easy to think "oh well, there's always next year" and that will happen within the foreseeable future.

I too just got my copy from Amazon the other day, and it was worth the wait! :D

And does 'Preferred Formation' FINALLY change now?!?!?! Woohoo! Mine says I like to play a 4-1-3-2, and I most certainly do. Do the other parts change (Mentality, Marking, Pressing, Coaching Style?)


Also, Mentors look nice. :) I'm playing as Spurs and had Tomas Pekhart tutored by Dimitar Berbatov. Pecker has already learned all of Berbsy's PPM and they seem to get along fine, they were both thrilled about helping one another. Now...Terry Dixon and Robbie Keane (future Ireland partnership?)...they seem to get along fine too, but Terry hasn't learned any of Robbie's PPM's yet. I'm sure he will though.

I'd have Barney or one of my other young strikers learn from Defoe...but then they'd all turn into idiots who know fuckall about passing/off the ball/offside rule/anythingotherthanfinishingwhichDefoehasforgottenlatelytoo.

Oh well.

Game is great, :) Just wish I didn't get teams taking all my staff.

OK, since I'm late coming to the party .... any recommendation on skins, facepacks, etc..?

I've not played with facepacks but there are very little skins available for now. I've read of one called goal and one called lightning but neither impressed me much.

FM

Yeah, I didn't see a lot of skins out there for FM2007 yet. Guess it's too soon, but there were some quality updates for the previous versions.

I did download the EPL facepack, logos and kits from sortitoutsi. I need to grab a few more when I have the chance.

game installed. time to see what the recommended setup with my new laptop is.

Welcome to MY life.

At least now that I've got WBA into EPL that's ceased happening.

But yeah, losing all my most effective staff members in the first week of the career sucked balls.

My recommended setup was like 7 leagues (MacBook Pro, 2gb RAM), but I'm running 28 VERY quickly. Quicker than any version of FM/CM ever.

On www.sortitoutsi.net I just look for all of the ones with 5 stars and a TON of downloads :)

yeah mine was 12 leagues in 6 countries but i have a dual-core centrino with 2gb of ram so i'm thinking i'll go more. but i like fast processing time, it helps years and years in when your savegame has gotten bigger

Agree on the speed improvement ... worth the price of a new version alone. I'm not running near the leagues you guys are on my Ram dog laptop, but just being able to sim quickly with a large database is sooo nice.

I have it on a laptop that's a couple of years old and it runs well. I'm really enjoying this version. I think that the financial model is more accurate than previous versions. It makes it much more of a challenge.

More accurately, it runs fast.

sometimes it runs so fast, I can't even read what it says.

as for the skins, i dont think ill bother, the one that game with FM is beautiful, IMO.

WSM 2007 is now up for download on SI's site for those who have been waiting....

So after a few more days worth of playing, I have several observations:

1.) It's SOOOOO much faster. I'm running England (Con N/S), the MLS, and the top two or three leagues in Scotland, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Portugal, Russia, Argentina and Brazil...and it's running very well. :D Melike!

2.) It's much more immersing with all the media and player interaction. Great great great.

3.) I love the little icons on the bottom that I can click on and go straight to my squad/mail/Home/etc. Something simple that makes life a little easier, :)

4.) While transfers aren't quite there yet, they're getting there. I bought Steven Taylor for only £5m, Hatem Ben Arfa for around the same. In previous games it would have taken £15m or more for either (well, maybe not HBA if he wasn't starting).


And on that note, I have proven now that indeed all Spurs need IS a leftwinger (in this case, HBA). Thus proving what many Spurs fans have thought for some time now. I shall inform Mr. Levy at once and provide a resume for when he sacks Mr. Comolli. :)

Good find. I thought it would have been pinned...

http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=374

I'm scared to purchase it after reading about the MLS crash. Is there anything else that's a showstopper?

Pumpy: That's the only showstopper I've come across, and there's two ways to avoid it until the patch (which is sometime in the next few weeks)

1) Not play a MLS team
2) Not negotiate already made trade offers (player for draft pick) to include more players on their side.

OMG! That sounds awesome.

FM series is the best sports sim eva!

To: anybody in the know.

Re: abrupt player retirements.

Do they happen? I had a striker, John Hartson, who was a fabulous player for my West Bromwich side in the Championship, but increasingly got isolated as we got better strikers in the Premiership.

He never indicated that he was thinking about retiring, but suddenly, in the second match of the 2010-11 season, following our EPL championship, I'm noticing that he's not in the squad. He doesn't come up in a search, and when I look at friendly matches from last season, he's unselectable (i.e. can't see his stats etc).

What happened here? Any idea?

Well usually, in previous versions, you would get a notice when someone was planning on retiring and he'd have a RET indicator next to his name. But based on the fact you can't find him in the dB search, I'm guessing he must have retired. Sounds more like a bug though.

Well what's weird is I never even got an indication he was considering it. No opportunity to talk him out of it.

He just made like Mark McGwire and disappeared.

Aieeee... rough decision here.

I took over Tottenham (Spurs) to start, and I've done pretty good by them. Won the League Cup in my 2nd year, got to the Quarter Finals of the UEFA Cup, and finished fourth in the EPL (qualifying for the Champions League)

Now, the next year, we just made the final 8 of the Champions League on away goals, after a 3-3 aggregate draw against Bayern Munich, are a distant fifth in the EPL (five points out of 4th, with a game in hand), and Liverpool comes knocking at my door.

They're 11th in the EPL, so no Europe next year, but have a good staff. They want me to manage, are offering at least 44.5 Million UK Pounds (something on the line of $75 Million) in transfer money (although I wouldn't get it till next year), the wage budget is at 700K/week (and I have room to expand it)

Gahhh..

Interesting. I'm @ Pool now. I have a 51 mil (pounds) wage budget - but only an 8 mil (pounds) transfer budget.

Bah. I manage Peterhead in the Scottish 3rd Division.

10K Euro Xfer budget.
2K/wk Euro wage budget.

Sack up, Alice...

heheh

Can you blame me if I'm such a better manager then you? *ducks*

I decided not to take it, I couldn't take not being in Europe next year

I guess I could always take an ultimatum to them, but considering how this season wenty down, I shouldn't.

I was in first place in the Premiership from about the 6th game to the 34th (though when Chelsea would get a game or two up they'd pass me).

The difference was two losses to Chelsea - both blowouts (0-5, 0-2). They beat me by 6 points.

2nd place in the Premiership
Won the League Cup
Lost in the Quarters of the Champs League to FC Bayern - I won the first leg (at home) 3-1, and they beat me 0-2 @ Bayern with a goal in the 84th minute.
Lost in the 3rd Round of the FA to Charlton.

I'm having problems deciding where I want to strengthen the team.

Third year at Gravesend. Haven't had a transfer budget yet. Bastards.

waiting for the patch so i can start a serious career. just mucking about right now

Easy . . . you do what any sensible person would and flee from WHL as quickly as possible! :D

What am I saying? You're from MA. And you like trees. And pain.

You made the appropriate decision . . . for one such as yourself. :D

you do know what the only possible reply is, right?





I KEEL YOU NOW!

((a week after Liverpool tried to hire me, Bayern Munich wanted me to come to Germany.. there was a little less angst about saying no this time)

BTW - they gave me 32 mil this off-season. I brought on Downing and now Riise wants to go to Spain, so I need a DL. Ugh.

This has probably been mentioned many times in this thread, but I just can't get over how fast the simming is in this game. I'm so used to hitting the space bar and then turning my head to watch the TV for like 3-5 mins. I still do that out of habit now and when I turn back to the monitor after like 10 secs it's already done. Easily the best improvement.

Try and get Gareth Bale if you're early enough in the game to get him cheap.

That kid has been fantastic for me at WBA.

Dola,

I don't think he starts there. I think I bought him after I had to sell Curtis Davies to a Spanish side.

VERY strange happening (i suppose)

Still just mucking about as Chelski waiting for the patch to start my serious career and I'm trying to buy Sergio Ramos from Real Madrid. His current contract had like ~3 years or so left on it (whatever it was at the beginning of the game). I put in numerous offers for him, including one for 53 million dollars but they're all rejected and he has a 120 million dollar release clause. Lo and behold after the 53 million dollar offer is rejected he signs a new 5 year deal with a 52 million dollar release clause.

Coincidence?

Is there a known issue/bug with training? I have created some schedules for my conf team and then set them all to a medium workload. Then I'll sim ahead and when I go back to the schedule screen, some of the schedule's workloads will jump up to heavy or very heavy. Has this been talked about in the thread already?

Dola - Ok, things seem to have righted themselves for now.

What I was doing was adjusting the slider for each category and then using the workload slider to scale the workload to the level I wanted overall. But, it seems if I go adjust one of the individual category sliders (ie, strength) the workload seems to have stabilized. Still annoying and something I've never experienced in past versions. Hope that made sense.

Once again, FM is so immense I find it hard to get started.

I'm not sure if this is a bug report or not.

As West Brom, we won EPL last season and lead it this season (2009/10). The record book still says our highest position in EPL is 1st in the 1919/20 season. Seems like that's something that would default to the most recent season if '1st' is the highest position.

Also, I've got a 'biggest defeat' of 10-3 in 1937, and yet the highest scoring game listed is a 5-2 win over ManU. In this case, it might be splitting hairs with records at different divisions.

Was the 5-2 game in your career or a real game? I think that record might only take into account games from the actual game you're playing, not from historical records.

As for the other matter, while I think they use it interchangeably (meaning your point still stands), technically the EPL has only been around since, I believe, 1992. But I doubt that's the issue--sounds more like a bug.

The 5-2 game was from my career. The other obviously wasn't, being from 1937. ;)

Highest league positions to me would only update once you beat the previous high, and given that you can never beat 1st, it will never update.

From an English perspective that's how I would expect it to work.

I got this guy Ryan Taylor in 06-07 (I'm now in 07-08) from Wigan for £6.75 as a replacement for the aging Steve Finnan.

Since then, he's broken his leg (7 months), fractured his skull (3 months), and now about 10 minutes into the 10th match of the season, he broke his leg again (out for an estimated 5 months).

HA.

But at least you paid less than 7 pounds, right?

I WANT MY PATCH!!!!!

just found something new and sweet...the concept of "parity wage" with 2 players at the same club

explain.

I haven't seen that yet.

well i went to renegotiate joe cole's contract and down below in the area where you usually see your ass man's recommendation i saw in addition this line of type:



and now Essien has a "slt" unhappiness saying he wants a contract matching cole's

Yep, I ran into that with Charles N'Zogbia and Bobby Convey.

Just had a retarded loan offer thing with Barnsley.

They asked to loan one of my strikers - who wasn't in my plans - and offered to pay 40% of his salary. I said 'Sure, also you guys can have the right to buy him for $1.5m (half price) at any time during the loan.'

They changed their mind.

Why the heck would they do that? It's not as though it were an obligation to make the purchase.

In a Euro Cup match Litex had 5 players sent off against my Portsmouth team, leaving them with 6. Aren't you required to have at least 7 players on the field or is that just a Sunday league rule?

i waiting for patch before start new career :)

Me too.

Yes, that's a rule.

It seems they need to tone down the sending offs a bit. My team wasn't particularly dirty, didn't play with hard tackling turned on, but still had 20 players sent off in a single season. 18 games with one player sent off and 1 game with 2.

There are far too many "kicks out at an opponent" type sending offs, the majority of my teams were from a straight red card for violent conduct rather than a professional foul or two bookings. My opponents had a good number too.

Patch 7.0.1 for FM has been released. WWSM owners begin another wait.

Woot finally!!

I wonder if the boxed/digital download patches for WWSM will be out at the same time. If the boxed patch is coming out first, I may place an order with Amazon today and have the game at my house tomorrow.

Shit, I might as well do that anyway. Amazon Prime for the win!

...*cry*

:(

It wouldn't be so annoying except...they have have a download for the Mac version of WSM.

Oh well, Rooney will just get injured in internationals anyway...

YESSSS. PATCH ME BABY!

ok...honestly...if i was SI i think I would have held off until the WWSM patch was ready too. because at this point it really seems like the WWSM players are "second-class citizens" and all that's going to do is drive down the number of copies of WWSM they sell again.

sorry wwsm players :-(

Yeah, the only reason I'm getting WWSM is because it's cheaper. If I could get FM for the same price, I wouldn't even mind waiting for it to come from overseas.

I'm hoping that the WWSM patch is out before the weekend, because I'll have the game tomorrow if I get around to placing my order within the next few hours.

I don't think SI would piss off 99% of their buyers just to keep 1% happy, unfortunately. (I'm saying unfortunately because I've got WWSM).

Great news! :) I almost had a feeling it was coming because I visited their forum during my break this morning, maybe 30 minutes prior to them posting the releas announcement :)

fwiw, this was just posted on SI's myspace blog:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=199727063

FM

I'm curious to see the patch impact to the matches. Hopefully more 1v1 scoring.

My order for WWSM has been placed. It will be at my house tomorrow when I get home from work. I just hope the patch is ready by then, too.

According to reports on the SI forums, the WWSM patch is available on Filefront already and those whom have installed it have said that it works all fine and dandy. I think I might wait for something more official though, myself, as if I do not then it will inevitably be the incorrect decision.

AH! IT IS THE REAL PATCH! SI just confirmed, sweet!

It's 100 MB, 20 MB larger than the FM patch because it's a dual Boxed/DD patch. So both boxed and DD users can DL it.

Ok, I shall now vanish from this world.