I also received a PM with only the amount of gold I received.

Hoops, I will confirm that I only received the info on the 5 of us in the first square (E5), and nothing on anyone else in any of the square(s) I visited. Yes, I'm being ambiguous...I don't want none of you blokes finding the nice vein I found this afternoon. It should make me rich :)

I think tomorrow I'll be depositing my cash at the bank, and deciding who should be in my will...though I'm pretty sure I know who'll be the beneficiary if I get knifed.

I work tomorrow, and for a long shift. Just in case I can't get around, I'm going to throw a vote out there now.

There isn't much of a reason behind this one, other than the fact that he voted for me first, and he hasn't been vouched for being away from the scene of the crime at all. By my count, we have 9 people 'accounted for:'

I'm certain of these guys:
myself
hoops
Qwikshot
KWhit
path

Pretty Sure of:
AlanT

Somewhat sure of:
pennywisesb
saldana
ardent enthusiast

This isn't to say that none of these guys are pirates, or even that none of them are the one that killed SunDvls (they could have doubled back) -- but I highly doubt that they doubled back. Hoops confirms my sighting of the initial five, so unless we're in cahoots (hint: we're not), those five are safe for now. Alan claims to have been in a completely different square, and Pennywise confirms that, though Alan didn't notice Pennywise. Since we've noted that it is possible for people to not notice others (path and myself not noticing hoops in our second square of movement) while they are noticing you, this doesn't damn pennywise in the least. But we can't just assume that he's not throwing that out there as a red herring. Saldana claims that he was far from the scene of the crime, and that he saw ardent there too.

Since people can notice others without being noticed, saying "I was far from the crime, and I saw xxx" without specifying where you were when you saw the person is a pretty good way to stay undercover -- you have the blanket statement of 'I don't want to alert the pirates to where I was, and I'm sure xxx wouldn't want that out there either' to hide under, while at the same time it seems to proclaim your innocence, especially if 'xxx' claims they were far from the crime as well.

Right now I'm just thinking out loud, as I won't be back at the computer for a while. That all being said...

I vote Blade.

Hoops, I will confirm that I only received the info on the 5 of us in the first square, and nothing on anyone else in any of the other square(s) I visited. Yes, I'm being ambiguous...I don't know what any of your motivations are, and as is obvious with Blade's day one actions, I might be a target, and I want to keep my hide intact, thank you very much.

I think tomorrow I'll be depositing my cash at the bank, and deciding who should be in my will.

[OOC]I work tomorrow, and for a long shift. Just in case I can't get around, I'm going to throw a vote out there now.[/OOC]

By my count, we have 9 people 'accounted for:'

I'm certain of these guys:
myself
hoops
Qwikshot
KWhit
path

Pretty Sure of:
AlanT

Somewhat sure of:
pennywisesb
saldana
ardent enthusiast

This isn't to say that none of these guys are pirates, or even that none of them are the one that killed SunDvls (they could have doubled back) -- but I highly doubt that they doubled back. Hoops confirms my sighting of the initial five, so unless we're in cahoots (hint: we're not), those five are safe for now. Alan claims to have been in a completely different square, and Pennywise confirms that (which would just be weird if he was lying, unless they're both Pirates...but why lie this early? Too easy to get caught, in my opinion), though Alan didn't notice Pennywise. Since we've noted that it is possible for people to not notice others (path and myself not noticing hoops in our second square of movement) while they are noticing you, this doesn't damn pennywise in the least. But we can't just assume that he's not throwing that out there as a red herring. Saldana claims that he was far from the scene of the crime, and that he saw ardent there too.

Since people can notice others without being noticed, saying "I was far from the crime, and I saw xxx" without specifying where you were when you saw the person is a pretty good way to stay undercover -- you have the blanket statement of 'I don't want to alert the pirates to where I was, and I'm sure xxx wouldn't want that out there either' to hide under, while at the same time it seems to proclaim your innocence, especially if 'xxx' claims they were far from the crime as well.

Who's left?

kingfc22
Blade
Desnudo
Raiders Army
Grammaticus
TazFTW
Schmidty

Right now I'm just thinking out loud, as I won't be back at the computer for a while. Remember, a tie in the voting confuses the cops, and means no arrest. That all being said...

I think he's literally been a bad guy in every single game of Werewolf I've ever played. Since this is pretty much a crapshoot anyways, that (combined with him being 'unvouched' for as yet) is as good a reason as any I can think of. It was tough not to vote on Blade first though :)

I vote Raiders Army.

Huh...going to preview post apparently posted my first one before I changed my mind. interesting. I'm sure that will go over well tomorrow (sigh).

Uh, since I think this is necessary now -- sorry to make your life a little more difficult Barkeep.

Unvote Blade
Vote Raiders Army

lol, I was confused for about 30 seconds there.

Now why is it, everywhere I go I'm bumping into greenhorns trying to infringe upon my gold!?! I was wandering down into I think it was E5 on my grid, my map, da'n yutes...I bump into you bumblers. The first guy had a basketball nickname I think, or was it that guy from One Crazy Summer...I dunno, seemed profession'l, I hate profession'ls. The other guy I didn't think he could speak English or was lost, I think...he kept saying Path, path...I kept pointing to the road, but damned if he kept shaking his head...too hot in this sun...the other guy sounded like 'quit', I was hoping he was givin up but then I realized it was just his name, mad me madder than a hornet...and the, the /normal/ one, looked like a Vegas dealer...I told him to go back to the steamboats and shoot for a dead man's hand...they didn't stick around too long...which IS good...

Shame bout that one youngin bitin it...heart attack my bum...only tourists get heart attacks here, after too many Mai Tais, fat fried shrimp, and happy endings from the girls at the local Spa...

I need me some gold...I want some rum.

Stupid greenhorns after my gold, stupid pirates for being pirates...

Oooooh

And this is why I stopped playing these games. It's 5 AM for crying out loud, and I haven't slept yet. Sigh.

So far it looks to me like most of the group that Hoops saw is confirming their location.

Kwhit, Hoops, Path, Vince, Qwikshot all appear to not have been in the area to make the kill last night, although that does not mean they are not pirates.

Pennyweis also said the same about me, even though I have no ability to confirm his whereabouts, as i did not see him.

Thinking about this, it obviously helps us narrow down who did NOT make the kill last night at least. I am hoping people do not entirely start thinking of these people as cleared though, as it would be far too easy for a pirate to sneak into a circle of trust that way.

In my mind, right now it helps us identify targets moreso than "clear" people. The danger with this though is Pirate A could say "I saw Player X way far away last night, he could not have done this!" and it be a total fabrication without any way to support it.

Qwik = very funny
Vince = relapsed WW addict

Although we have a few people who have come out vouching, not everyone has noted what direction they went in ... Path has confirmed that our group of 5 started in a SE direction (I'm confirming the first two moves he listed). Did anyone head SW along with SnDvls?

I'm not sure how much stock to put in two random people vouching for each other (or one vouching for the other but not reciprocated) at this point in time. I think there is value here, but this is also something that the pirates can latch onto since there is not an absolute "i saw these players and these players all saw me" relationship here.

There is still plenty of time for something to come out here that helps tighten our net. But the most compelling evidence will come from the SW. I'm concerned that someone may have headed in that direction but decided they did not want to be linked to the murder when sharing their information.

I went to A7. From my PM, I did not see anyone. I just received gold.

RA, I'm assuming you took the most direct route there: D4-C5-B6-A7?

If so, that is disappointing that you didn't see anyone while moving there. I would expect that SnDvls would have moved D4-C5-B6 just because that is the only route to B6 that doesn't waste time. And a treasure hunter would not want to waste time that could be spent digging, although he could have used a "hide" or "watch" action to slow his progress to B6.

OOC - brief recap

Sndvls - Dead at B6, SW of map

Penny saw AlanT; AlanT did not see Penny

Saldana vouches for AE

Hoops, Vince, Qwik, Path, Kwith all saw each other in SE area

Des and King state they were in SE area

Gram votes for King, minimum explanation

Vince votes for Blade, then RA, with maximum explanation

RA went to A7, no one witnessed him.

Taz went somewhere where no one witnessed him.

Schmidty and Blade (amazingly) are quiet.

I received a PM too....it said I was stabbed in the back and killed...bastards!! :mad:

No this was probally a good thing as one of my coworkers had a death in the family and I would be very limited in this game. Good luck all.

There's been quite a bit of talk when a middle aged man in a cheap suit enters the hut.

"Hello all and to all a hello. How are you fine gents doing today? We have here a MIGHTY fine group. Yes indeed a MIGHTY fine group indeed.

"Now I have here a little information that just needs to stay between us. Ya know so no one else hears it."

Shady looks around conspiratorially before continuing.

“I can make you all RICH beyond your dreams. You will have women at your beck and call. An inexhaustible supply of gold. All you have to do is make me a small payment of 100 Gold Pieces, yes that’s right the mighty affordable price of 100 Gold Pieces, and the exclusive, yes I said exclusive, rights to this island are YOURS. Now we must hurry because I have heard that there are a group of mercenaries who are willing to come and take over this here island for 125 Gold Pieces. Now I don’t, and you don’t, want these evils here so go ahead and get together a group for that 100 Gold Pieces.

“Finally before I leave here I thought I should offer you something.”

Shady pulls out a necklace with five beads on it.

“This necklace is a traditional piece of Blahoopian jewelry. It’s great for informal or formal occasions. Any Blahoopian who you meet will respect you instantly for it. Sadly, I only have one of these and so I will offer it to the highest bidder.

“But make sure you don’t try anything fancy. Do not try and retract your bid (In other words no editing of posts with a bid in it) and make sure you have the gold to pay for your items as I don’t like to be cheated. Now it’s possible some of you will want to be asleep when the action ends. If so just come outside and tell me how much is the maximum you’d be willing to pay. If I feel like it (In other words if I’m around and receive a PM from you) then I will increase the bid for you without you even having to lose a moment of shuteye.

“So there you have it blokes. I’ll be back later to talk some more.”

Evening Cycle is now going and ends 8 PM Eastern.

That guy with the sharp name...Butterknife, I think it was, or spork...so loud and huffing his chest...seems so quiet now, remarkably...kinda nice, but kinda spooky, you don't really go quiet lest you contemplatin', and with that dead boy, methinks one is trying to keep out of view...not on m'h watch...mmm-hmmm

Vote Blade

Well, I guess we don't have zero information to go on to try to inprison this wrongdoer to prevent them from doing a similar crime to the rest of us...

unless anyone has a better idea, should we try to narrow down one of the ones not vouched for as a possible target to jail? I am pretty sure that some of the people who have been vouched for (or even those doing the vouching) so far likely could be or are pirates, so I don't want to become too comfortable with clearing those people. However putting pressure on people who were not vouched for, could possible lead to pirates doing false vouchings or find some other way to snare one.

From my list, this is the people that no one could vouch for that they saw elsewhere earlier this morning:

Blade
Desnudo
Pennywise
Raiders
Grammaticus
Taz
king
ardent
Schmidty

Maybe we should look at these closely and figure out who might be someone we want to contact our local law enforcement about.

I went C4-B4-B5-B6-B7-A7, then dig.

OOC: This makes you the athlete or a pirate. You sure went the longest way to get to your point...that is

it would've been wiser to do c5, dig, b6, dig, a7, dig...get more gold that way

mighty odd /OOC

AlanT, I went northwest, does that help at all in deciding if I was in fact near where you were?

I just went to one of the furthest points on the map. It didn't even occur to me to dig at more than one location. I'll do so in the future. :)

Dola, I also didn't realize that we could move diagonally. Damn you checkers for messing me up.

I was curious about this also.. Raiders how exactly did you make so many moves?



And reply to Penny: Yes, the direction you said you moved along with spotting me makes me feel that you did not have as much to do with this morning's death, however I don't know where to the NW you spotted me, or if it might have been possible to double back though in time. I do know so far your story matches up to what i know at least.

This reminds me that if you want to move from say D4-C6 (SnDvl's fatal path) then please be specific as to how you want to get there. There is often more than 1 way to go and as you saw last night how you go there can matter.

So's I'm gonna rein'nerate that I'm thinking this poor dead kid ran into somethin fierce down there in the SW. We's got someone who knows how to run...run all the way to the end o' the earth, just to get his fingernails deerty in one plot...funny funny, greenhorn. Long way to go for so little...

So's b'sides the guys that I had to deal with o yonder SE, we gots one definately SW...

These pirates must be healthy, know how to run, even with a mess o' grog in em. They must've targeted deadboy from the start, followed him, kilt him.

I gots from all this ramblin' talk...that the ones I run into (Path, Hoops, Vince, Kwhit, Qwik) went SE...we gots talk that two others also went that way...(Des and King)...so that makes 7 of us near'd the river.

Deadboy(sndvl) and GreenhornArmy (RaidersArmy) went SW but didn't see each other...Greenhorn musta had blinders on not to see ANYTHING, I means, there was someone else that must've been there, lest someones else was the Greenhorn.

Butterfork (blade) and Smitty (schmidty) are awfully quiet, but I'm gessin' that's from a hard's days work...

The one they called Ardvark Enthusiast, no ardvarks here m'boy, and Salad lover seemed to have bumped into each other but didn't say where...

Pennyforyerthoughts ran into the guy named IcedT, or Allenade...whatever...theys went Northwest.

Grammyphone doesn't like King, but didn't give a reason...was Grammy in the southeast too?!?

I used roads.

I don't like what you're insinuating. I can't help but see what I see. If I don't get it in the PM, then I don't see anything. All I got was some gold. I'm guessing that our paths did not cross.

WAIT...I thought roads were only good for bikes or taxis...there was no benefit when on foot.

Thats what I thought as well. I went and reread the rules on the front page and it states:


Right now 2 + 2 is equaling somewhere around 5 1/2.

Ugh. You are correct. I have no idea where I went last night then. I really don't know the rules at all. Crap.

Barkeep, I know that I received some gold, but can you tell me where I dug?

I'm guessing I ended up at B6 then and dug for gold?

The only reason that I'm not putting a vote on Raiders immediately here is that he says that he didn't see someone while posting a series of actions that make no sense to me (too many moves, putting himself in the SW). If he is a pirate then I'm sure his walkie-talkie is blowing up right now.

But unless there is someone who actually witnessed a killing or can give compelling evidence to validate Raiders I'm probably going to move this direction with my vote later today.

I saw Saldana as well...and I'll add this we went, umm, east? Looking at the map, we went to the right. :)

I had to make sure. My obligatory first vote.

Vote Schmidty

Yeah, I have been sitting here the last 5 minutes trying to think of a reason -not- to vote Raiders. It could be an honest mistake on his part, but with it being day1, and no better choices jumping out at me, I'm going to lean his way first.

At least for now, I say lets let the local cops deal with this guy. If he just made a simple mistake, then things might check out later for him at the jail just fine. Not my problem to worry about, lets let the cops deal with Raiders.

VOTE Raiders Army

ooc: I'm leaning this way too with what he said, but think I'll wait a bit before making a final decision -- it's a complicated ruleset and on day 1 I can certainly imagine an honest mistake. /ooc

Please, I just want to find the gold. She gleams.

I'll bid 2 gold for the necklace.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be a completely worthless trinket.

OOC: What happened to 17? From the list.

Packerfan, maybe? He did drop out.

Someone dropped out.

Greenhornarmy(RaidersArmy) ain't sayin' he's an athlete, yet he gots all the way to A7.

Mighty surprizin' --I got doubts now...

Figured

Ultra Nox.

uhm Rox ;) (not this season anyway)

Just wanted to see if you'd say something in your old man voice.

Regard all further alarms.

I /told/ yu, there's no ARDVARKS in these here parts...just gold, and it's mine...you silly greenhorn...nature preserve is thataway (pointing out past the sea, the horizon)...leave me to me gold...

I'm gone until just a little bit before lynch. Please remember to bold your vote and bids and to have them at the end of the post.

Barkeep PMed me to tell me that he changed my direction so I moved diagonally.

It would be a mistake to vote for me today. I realize that my actions appeared to be sneaky, but it was an honest mistake.

Sorry about that - will repeat my bid here with the bold and at the end.

BID 2 GOLD FOR NECKLACE

ooc: This is all I want to know...did you just say A7 or did you give actual direction to A7...this alone will alter my perception...you went smack dab where Sndvls was...and for now, not a soul otherwise had stated to be in your vicinity...it's just all very suspicious...I agree that the rules are somewhat daunting...BUT even if you did just move to A7, you would have had to have used 4 AP total of your 5 which makes far better sense. Mistake or not. I'm assuming that you just gave the quadrant you wanted to go to, therefore you didn't see anyone because it was too difficult to keep track of who was going where unlike some of the others that stated each quadrant they went to.

I agree. Either he's just REALLY confused, or something very fishy is going on. With it being day one, I'd at least like to cast a vote in the latter direction rather than a random vote on someone else, so with that said:

Vote Raiders Army

It's getting late enough in the day that people should have had a chance to come forward with information. So for now ...

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

A runaway vote isn't helping us out with voting patterns, but I'm not sure they are as important in this game when we are jailing (not lynching) people and not getting role reveals after the vote.

I have about the same level of unease around Raiders here that I did with Desnudo last game - not sure if the information is grounds for lynching, but without something else compelling I'll go with it. Of course, in that game Desnudo did end up being an other ...

i dont buy this....barkeep posted more than once exactly how we are supposed to send in our morning AP's, no raiders is saying he screwed his up and Barkeep fixed it for him! i dont see a DM automatically adjusting for a screwup...that would be like me reassinging the spy scan for Pass the night he picked a dead guy to view....you screw up, you deal with the screw up....

vote raiders army (i owe you from last game anyway)

unvote Blade
vote Raiders

This doesn't change me view of Sporkman, I think he's dirtier than a sewer rat smeared in moldy cheese hanging at the pornopit...not that I know anything bout that...but Greenhornarmy has been flubbing, flamming, and flumoxed the wrinkles from mah forehead...Of to me rum, and ma' plan'z of gold...

I agree with saladshooter on this principle...some greenhorns are sharper than others...

Just getting into the thread today (it has been a nasty day at work so far, ughhh!)

I saw Hoops, Path, Qwik, and King as we travelled to the SE, so I can vouch for their initial moves at least.

RA could have just made a mistake, but without anything else to go on, I gotta vote for somebody, so:

Vote Raiders Army

Just woke up, and I have a few pages to read before voting.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself...especially to you. I told you what directions I went. Whatever.

Obviously I have to spell it out for you:

I AM THE INVESTIGATOR.

I did not receive a role when the game started. I PMed Barkeep and asked him if I was supposed to receive one or should I just assume that if I didn't get one I was a normal treasure hunter.

Someone should be able to corroborate this, since Barkeep told me that he accidentally sent two roles to one person (that person's and my role).

As far as what I did last night, I didn't really understand what was going on with the watch thing (still don't know what it is either), and I told Barkeep I wanted to watch TazFTW and follow him. Since I PMed this to Barkeep well before the deadline, I also gave him conplan A, which was moving to A7, which obviously happened. Bad luck, me not paying attention, and then more bad luck led to this role reveal...

Double dola, and the reason why I checked in so late was because I didn't receive a role.

And didn't anyone get the sneaky part???

Wow, I'm not even to page 8 yet, and Raiders has already made me beyond suspicious with his multiple "honest mistakes". I don't understand how he could have all of those extra points without being a pirate.

I'm going to go back and do the math and see if the "athlete" trait would allow him to do it, otherwise this is my vote:

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

why would you make a role reveal like that on day one....you are only going to jail, and could get bailed out later...now you are dead meat (if telling the truth) or lying (which we wont know because no roles are revealed upon jailing)

i am pretty convinced we are right....later pirate. *tosses gorgeous mane of hair aside and leave room*

I looked at that, and what I understand from the rules about the athlete trait, even then that wouldn't let him do the move that he initially said. He has changed his story a few times though since then, which either shows me A) Desperation B) Being caught in a lie C) trying to hide a role reveal and not doing a good job of escaping without it.

If its A or B, well he should be jailed. If its C, then obviously we wouldn't want to jail him, but at this point its a 67% chance of jailing being a good move. Since if it is C, his role has been revealed and I'm sure he will be a pirate target and be useless to us anyways, and since jail is not a final death per say we can always bail him out later if he is good.

if that were the case, why didnt he claim Athlete, instead of investigator? someone else even asked him if he was the athlete...not buying what he is selling.

Unless Barkeep can confirm that what you say about him messing up with your role, even if it's a vague confirmation, I'll unvote you. Otherwise, I'm sticking with my vote.

If you really are the investigator, you just put a giant bullseye on your head, and that could really hurt us. If you aren't a pirate, then you're an obvious target for the pirates, and that would really suck.

I'm not sure what to think at this point. I need to re-read RA's posts.

That is what my point was also. Either way if that is a true reveal, it doesn't really effect my vote at this point.

Yeah, this could really suck if he's the investigator. Either way, he's toast. but like you said, I like the jail option since it's not final in case he really is good.

But then you should've got some dirt on Taz...something, anything...from my map Taz hadn't really said his location...puts some sus'psion on him, but not as much as you...as for the sneaky text, while it looked a little outta place, it wasn't enough to wow me...don't place blame on the ole man on the glowering glances of mistrust...

Are we supposed to specify the exact path we take to our destination? I PM'd Barkeep my final destination only.

I dont see a need to reveal to avoid going to jail this early.

Unvote Raiders Army

This is true, I was the one who got sent multiple PMs about roles, I obviously didn't know who got what role, but this is too much of a coincidence. I PMed barkeep asking what role was for me, and he told me the investigator was for someone else (obviously not naming names).

I don't want to contribute to losing the investigator on day 1.....

RA just entered my circle of trust.

i sent my final destination only and the number of points it was going to take to get there, with my last ap order being to dig. i counted out the points myself and just said where i wanted to go.

ok, i am out until around 6 when the office empties.

Did you watch anyone RA?

well now two possibilities to being true here:

A) Both penny and Raiders are pirates and have some elaborate ploy of trying to get Raiders off the hook from a day 1 jailing due to a slip up.

B) Raiders and penny are both telling the truth, and Raiders just hasn't had a very good day 1 and is privately cursing at Barkeep's ruleset about right now. :)


I wonder what all we can find out about people once they are jailed by paying the extra gold. This could be a chance to clear 1 miner (Raiders) + make another miner look very trustworthy (Penny) through one jailing, especially if it is reversable.

The downside is if they are telling the truth, Raiders likely will be a pirate target very soon (and might even be safer in jail for now.. under the assumption that pirates can not kill him while in jail.)

I guess the main questions I have before changing my vote would be: 1) Can pirates attack people in jail .. and 2) What kind of information will we be able to buy from the police about jailed individuals.

I am guessing the answer to one or both of those might have to be found out as we go.. I do think that if B, this is true, then Raiders will be dead soon enough anyways, so might be best to go through with the jailing in an attempt to clear or condemn Penny.

I was worried that coming out with the PM information might place some suspicion on me, but I felt it was necessary to try to save the investigator. If it weren't such a crucial role, I probably would have just stayed quiet. AlanTs plan sounds fine with me, as I'm always open to being cleared :)

Yeah, at this point though I'm not sure if its possible to save the investigator once that role has been revealed. Thats probably one of the high targets for the pirates to knock off.

And I don't think if RA's story checks out, it would totally clear you, since you could have gotten a pirate role + his role attached to it.. but it definitly makes you a bit more trustworthy in my book for now.

Another question for Barkeep, If I wanted to put my underwhelming amount of gold in the bank at some point when it could buy me more than a can of chewin tobacco, when would I do that? During the evening phase? Or is it part of the morning phase and involves AP being used to travel to the bank and deposit it as part of your turn?

If this was asked before, I apologize, all the gold dust getting to me.

Okay. I trust penny and RA at this point. It doesn't make sense for a pirate to put his own butt on the line to save another pirate this early in the game. I might revisit this line of thought at a later time, but for today's vote, I think I can list these guys on my DO NOT VOTE FOR LIST:

KWhit
Hoops
Path
Qwik
King
Pennywise
Raiders Army

So anybody else is fair game. Anybody have thoughts on somebody not on this list?

I would contribute 1 GP to find out the role of whoever is in jail. I think it makes sense to do this every night someone is in there.

I agree that RA's play has been kinda strange, but it would be pretty ridiculous for me to come out (when I wasn't on anyone's radar) and give my inside information if we were both pirates. That would be pretty stupid. Just wanted to point that out.

RA, I agree with AlanT at this point, even if you aren't jailed by some miracle, I have a feeling you won't make it through the night.

I agree too. I was going to hope to have enough money to get the role of Raiders once he went to jail by myself even if no one else wanted to contribute. But I'll need a bit better morning tommorrow than I had this morning to do that.

I continue to be amazed by how quiet Blade is being, and that automatically makes me somewhat suspicious.....

Respect path would like from Hoopblas:
Bid 3 gold

Me too.

The one thing that I'm having a problem with today is why we have such heavy trust in the "5".

Wouldn't it be smart for the Pirates to send their killer in one direction while the rest travel in another? Then hope the run into some treasure hunters who can vouch for their location. I know that is how I would play it if I was a pirate.

I just don't like saying hey these 5 guys are safe after one phase of the game.

I don't think we're saying they're safe for the game, just that it's not likely they killed Sun.

I know I haven't said that. In fact I have said the opposite a few times. I am pretty sure a pirate is in the groups of people being vouched for, or even a voucher himself. I think the list of people who haven't been vouched for only gives us targets for who might have done the killing this morning. Not who is or is not a pirate.

Can anyone answer this question? I'm still confused on how the Pirates kill actually works.

Dola, I also think that nobody really knew about having the chance to see others while you travelled, so I don't know if that strategy would have been in place yet. I assume it is now though.

Yeah, I think its directed for people to decide who to vote for today or tomorrow, rather than clearing them for the duration.

Don't get me wrong. There is no reason in the world to believe that any of "the 5" are safe. But it is very likely that the pirate who killed sndvls last night was not part of "the 5". So the reasoning is that we are more likely to get a pirate by voting for someone outside of that group.

I wanted clarification on this before, and barkeep kind of gave an answer earlier in this thread. From what it sounds like unless you hide somehow or lose them (or they did not know where you started from for some reason), they just have to follow you and kill you as one of their APs.

What I don't know is if you keep moving as APs will they have to keep moving and only can do the kill once you stop to watch, dig, or something else or not.

[quote=Desnudo]Are we supposed to specify the exact path we take to our destination? I PM'd Barkeep my final destination only./QUOTE]

I sent my exact route.

[quote=kingfc22]
So did I.

Exactly. Now the pirates will likely have wacky, non-obvious travel patterns before their kills, but it isn't likely they did this last night.

I would be willing to contribute towards a jail 'reveal' fund but I'm not sure we are allowed to transfer gold to each other (and while at work I don't have as much time to reference the lengthy list of rules).

If there is not a mechanism that allows for the transfer then I would be willing to be part of a group of people who rotate days to verify roles. But I'm unlikely to be in a position to be able to afford this tonight.

Quite frankly, I don't see how this is a huge role reveal. It's not like it's that good of a power and I don't have the seer ability.