Now I'm just a grunt, but this was in my inbox today.

I believe in Swaggs. Killing him is a mistake.

You spend the night after breaking into Schmidty's room listening.A noise makes you peek your head out into the hallway. Up the hallway, you see a person slip into a room up the hallway.. after a couple seconds a horribe scream comes out, sending you to duck back in to the room till the scream stops.

You've heard that scream once before.. in Buenos Aires, on a terror mission. That's the sound of someone being turned into a Chryssalid-Zombie!

You have a chance to identify the Chryssalid player.

Give me 3 names sometime today. If you survive the day, you will know if any of that group resembles the Chryssalid.

(I will not tell you which one of the three is the Chryssalid, I just will tell you that one of the three IS or IS NOT the Chryssalid)

So I picked:

Blade

Peregrine

Neon_Chaos

Just got this info back from the data recorder (OOC: Sir Fozzie).

What??? So tell! This will make the difference if you know who's a Chryssalid!

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Re: 3 picks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwikshot
Neon Chaos

Blade

Peregrine


The Chryssalid IS in that group.

Choose wisely.
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Take it for what it's worth boys, your man Qwikshot, the lowly grunt, came through.

Either a genius play by Qwikshot or we are getting played late.

I think everyone knows where I'm leaving my vote.

I'm hoping that if we kill the Chryssalid, then the aliens can't make more.

Given that information, I'm going to Vote NEON CHAOS.

I'll be out of pocket for about an hour and a half. Hope we made the right call.

Actually, UNVOTE NEON CHAOS.

I'm going to go with your gut hoopsguy.

VOTE BLADE

Hmm that changes everything Qwik. I know I'm not an alien, but between Blade and Neon, hmm. Both are fairly suspicious.

Due to recent info...

Unvote Swaggs

Qwik -- was this all random? You didn't ask to break into Schmidty's room, you were just told you did?

Biggest factor I can see for voting Neon is that he wasn't around much today - he is usually an active poster although I don't have his patterns committed to memory. Is this the rationale, digamma? Or just drawing straws among those three?

Edit - NM, see that you have changed vote.

I'm not a genius, just a grunt...this is the god's truth what happened.

I think we should

Vote Blade

I might not agree with Neon Chaos...and I'm not sure of Peregrine, but I nailed one of those aliens, we got a 33% chance on getting one of these buggers.

*pulling back a bit*

How do we know you say who you are? If I remember correctly, you're one of the bandwagon guys on Schmidty last night. Could this be a cover?

Then again, you haven't been a target today...

Crap, I just don't know at this point whether to trust this "fortuitous" piece of knowledge...and it isn't even accurate. If you could finger someone for sure it would make a stronger case. Bringing it down to three people, even if you're proven wrong, you could hide behind the fact that you weren't sure and that one of the three is an alien.

Shit, we knew that there was a 33% chance we'd get an alien today, so what makes your odds so much better? I'm going to have to think about whether to trust you or not.

unvote Swaggs

vote Blade

If it's not him, we know that Neon should be next.

I had a letter in my inbox, I simply did what I was told to do...

This really makes me think...

I unvote Swaggs. I'm not really sure where to go now, but for now I'm not going to keep my vote there.

Unvote hoopsguy

Peregrine is (obviously) a very experienced player. He put me back on my heels by questioning some of my logic, but he, more than anyone else, should know that my strategy to get the numbers lined up, while perhaps not the best, is a fairly sound strategy, as it has worked in the past. That is suspicious.

Now, using Qwikshot's information, it would make sense that the aliens would target him, either to get him to join them or to get them off of our side by killing him.

Blade6119 presents a big question, as well. If a grunt was converted last night, he would either have that role description as his own or be able to share it with the aliens (if they can communicate).

I know one of the 3 is an alien, just not which one.

If you doubt it, then you are more paranoid then you should be.

I'll try not to gloat :) But seriously, if it isn't Blade then we are going to have a battle royale tomorrow between Peregrine and Neon.

For what it's worth, I don't think it was my idea initially :) I was just trying to point something out to Peregrine that I had seen someone else post earlier.

Honestly, if we're getting to the point where we think people would be making up fake PMs from the moderator, this game is already gone. SirFozzie would be coming down hard on people making up PMs from him, hell even posting PMs from him is way against the rules in most WW games.

Actually, Neon's pretty active, but he's in a different TZ than the rest of us so he's active late in the day. Today is a good example of the pattern.

Of course, you finish that circle, of course, if it is you, then a lot more damage is going to be done...I'm hoping Blade is the one.

This confirms what I thought. We posted our messages at the same time, you coming in a little earlier. What makes your chances any better than we already had? If you could give a better than 33% chance, I'd go with you. Actually, by ignoring you we have a 35.7% chance of hitting an alien tonight. I just don't understand why you came up with this information at the last second.

I posted that idea.

I was waiting for the information of the 3 picks...I just got it like 10 to 20 minutes ago and was debating how to present it....(I think Sir Fozzie did that on purpose).

LOL. And is there an upper limit to the paranoia in this game? The only person I can trust for sure is me. The other is Schmidty but he's dead...in part, because of your vote.

Vote Blade6119

Qwik's info combined with X-Com's need for Blade's blood decides this one for me...

So if I've got this right, now we have two votes for Swaggs and five for Blade.

Make that six.

Dammit, now I'm either suspicious for voting late for Blade, or suspicious for not voting for him at all. :mad:

Well played, SirFozzie. And Qwikshot as well.

Peregrine, what are the usual rules on posting PM messages in game? This is the second time today we've seen a pretty detailed accounting of the word of SirFozzie making an appearance.

This vote will kill two birds (hopefully Chrysalises) in one stone. Blade is going to be getting a lot of votes from people anyway if he survives tonight, and he's on the list. So even if he doesn't turn out to be a bad guy he makes sense. If he's good and still receiving so many votes he's masking the bad guys and indirectly helping them.

Really depends on the game, I tell people they can post the gist of what I tell them, but not exact quotes. A lot of games are even more strict and even implying that "the mod told you X" is a major infraction of the rules. But it's SirFozzie's game and he can decide how he wants to run it this time.

Currently, it looks like blade is the one who is going to get the axe tonight -- I count 4 votes right now (hoopsguy, digamma, Qwik and Peregrine). So we have a couple of options...

1) Blade is a Chryssalid. He's shot, we find out, there is much rejoicing. There are still 4 other aliens...unless his converted zombie person dies with him (they don't in the video game, not sure if they will in this game).

2) Blade is not a Chryssalid, but an X-Com agent. He's shot, turns out to be innocent, and we're in deep shit. The Chryssalid may or may not have a chance to convert another person, and we're looking at 5 against 7 as our BEST CASE scenario -- that's if they don't get to kill AND they don't get to convert in the evening.

3) Blade is not a Chryssalid, but a different sort of Alien. He's shot, we're happy...but the Chryssalid might be out there converting someone ELSE tonight.

Just thought I'd throw that out there...we need to remember that even if one of these three is the Chryssalid, there are still at least 3 other aliens and one converted person out there.

I did ask if I could publically state all of this...I was told I could do so at my own risk.

The best outcome here (in addition to me not getting lynched :) ) would be to get an alien on this try and have then be left with a 1 in 2 chance of getting the Chryssalid.

If this is a bluff by Qwikshot, it could throw us on a wild goose chase for the next three days and lose us the game.

Does anyone else have anything else, at all, to add (dreams, notes, alibi,etc)?

I was going to save this until AFTER the 8:00 PM deadline, but it's quite obvious who has the votes.

I'll tell you what it is:

I didn't want people posting FULL UNEDITED PM's of mine into the game. I have been at work and at Physical Therapy for my shoulder all game, so I just got the "3 picks" 2 minutes from when I sent it.

The player DID ask permission to break this info in game. I thought Qwik meant that could he relay the information in game, not post me word for word.

Shit. Trying to figure out how to figure this out.

Well, I guess that covers Qwik's butt. :)

Sorry then...I figured I could roleplay it into some computer analysis thingie...but I figured the only way I could accuse these three was with some proof.

I'm pretty sure Qwik is not making this up. If I were modding a game I'd kick a player out for posting faked PMs from me, and I think SirFozzie would do the same. Hopefully as he said, we can get rid of the whole PM posting issue and get back to killing us some aliens.

Well, that just proves that Qwik ain't bluffing... :)

Okay. Then SirFozzie confirms that Qwik is on the level. Proof is in the pudding. I have to:

Unvote kingfc22
Vote Blade

I'm not sure if that was a slip-up, but evidently Qwik is for real.

Well, that took longer than I expected to write up. Here's the other thing that I am worried about now...

I had a gut feeling this afternoon about Peregrine. No one seems to be listening to me, but that's ok :) (well, maybe Raiders Army said something somewhere, not sure). He was one of the three fingered by Qwikshot.

Peregrine's first reaction is to vote immediately for blade. "Piling on" so to speak. The only problem is that any sane person would probably vote for Blade, since he already had 'evidence' against him. However, he then points out that if it isn't blade, it's OBVIOUSLY Neon Chaos. I'm still not convinced on Peregrine's loyalties.

If you look at VI, there are good examples of things that were done, both real and made up, as justification for voting a particular way.

Ok. Came up with a partial way to solve this.

Yes, that is my words in that PM, one of that three is a Chryssalid.

In return, I now will reveal Qwik's role, as a counter balance to the "mod approval". That way, both sides have been helped significantly.

This is Qwikshot's Role.

Your role is the Jack of All Trades.

Once per night, you may break into the room of any person who has died previously, learning their role, and if they had a special X-Com Role, you have the ability to assume that role. (Note: You may only have one speciality, so if you pick up a role, you lose the Jack of All Trades ability)

Just because of a random event though...though I mucked things up a little.

To be honest, if Fozzie hadn't said anything except no posting of PMs, my credibility could still be questionable.

Well, I wonder who the aliens are going to kill tonight?

Nice role -- excellent work Qwik.

Qwik, congratulations for serving your world. I have a sneaking suspicion that I won't be seeing you tomorrow morning if there isn't a dedicated role who can stick to you like glue.

oh.. BTW..

Just so I'm PERFECTLY CLEAR..

NO MORE POSTING OF PM's from me. If you paraphrase me, you better change just about every word, because I now HAVE to come down hard on it.

I'm going with my gut on this one (and earning some animosity because of it I'm sure). Now, if blade turns out to be the Chryssalid, I guess I'm in trouble...but it happens.

I vote Peregrine.

Aw geez...:) Well so much for the grunt alibi...but then again, that is fair.

That's really nice. WTF can't you give me a role like that? :)

Anyhow, Vince makes a good point. I don't want to bandwagon on Blade, just in case he ends up a good guy.

Unvote Blade
Vote Peregrine

I'm still not convinced of your altruism. You play this game like a rookie, yet you had the insights into several other games. I also won't be a party to someone (who I just insulted his intelligence tonight) getting the axe.

I hope there is a guard in this game...

Current voting sequence:
Hoops vote Blade (1)
RA vote kingfc22 (1)
Hoops unvote Blade (0)
CW vote kingfc22 (2)
Peregrine vote fouts (1)
Vince vote Peregrine (1)
Hoops vote Blade (1)
Swaggs vote Hoops (1)
Vince unvote Peregrine (0)
Peregrine unvote Fouts (0), vote Swaggs (1)
Vince vote Swaggs (2)
Neon vote Swaggs (3)
Fouts vote Blade (2)
Digamma vote Neon (1), unvote Neon (0), vote Blade (3)
Jeebs unvote Swaggs (2)
Qwik vote Blade (4)
Peregrine unvote Swaggs (1), vote Blade (5)
Vince unvote Swaggs (0)
Swaggs unvote Hoops (0)
Jeebs vote Blade (6)
RA unvote kingfc22 (1), vote Blade (7)

Vince, you were already on my suspicious list that I posted before, and you're just growing on it. You'd love me to be lynched, I'm sure. But who is more believable at this point, the suspicious Blade, the mostly absent Neon_Chaos, or me? I've been trying to stir things up and feel out who the real villains are. I believe Swaggs for the most part, but the important thing is that accusations can be useful. It makes people defend their actions and that's always a good thing, you can't let people skate by and not be questioned, like oh I don't know, the remarkably under the radar JeeberD?

I was trying to figure that out -- your claim to be a grunt had me wondering about you, since I had no option to break into people's rooms in my description :) I was halfway through a PM to Fozzie asking to break into someone's room tonight, when I realized that something had to be up.

Oh, I'm talking about Peregrine here, not Qwik.

Vince, if Blade isn't our alien then I suspect you will have some company in the voting tomorrow.

Why so? You feel safe now that Blade's head is on the chopping block? I'm not defending him (although I voted with him tonight), but I would like people to open their minds a little...

This still makes me wonder about kingfc22. I am considering changing my vote back to him...

Where is Blade? You'd think he'd say something?

That's the thing. I'm not entirely convinced that I'd love to have you lynched. And I know that I'm growing on your suspicious list. Thankfully, not one other person has even commented on your two (now three) mentions of 'Vince' and 'suspicious' in the same statement. Sadly, I don't think that'll be possible after tonight.

You're right -- people need to make accusations. I just don't know how to interpret them yet. What I do know is that if I was a bad guy this time around, and I was able to convert people, that you would be #1 on my list of people to convert. Now, I think we would be much better served hitting the Chryssalid this time around rather than someone converted -- but if we hit a non-Chryssalid in the group of three tonight, we KNOW that one of the other two is a Chryssalid. At least I think we do...

Add to my list,
Swaggs vote Blade (8)
Vince vote Peregrine (1)
RA unvote Blade (7), vote Peregrine (2)

Jeebs voted for Blade (kicking off a mini-bandwagon) at a point when the now-known-Grunt Schmidty was in the lead in the voting.

Ok, I'm going to start tabulating votes now. Please don't make me any more mental gymnastics in the mean time. This could take a while..

*sighs*

The Chrysalid definitely has to be the prime target. What I'm really worried about is Sirfozzie's earlier statements that made me think we won't KNOW if we killed the Chrysalid or not. Say there are 2 aliens out of the 3, if we see one less ectoplasmic source tomorrow the Chrysalid could still be out there converting people.

doh, just got home because someone called in sick....

Vote Blade

At this point, with the blowing up of Blade seemingly fait accompli, I'm going to withhold my vote. I don't have any insight into any other people (aside from the suspicious troika identified by Qwikshot, who incidentally will not be off the hook if Blade is a Chrysalid as we have no guarantee that Qwik didn't get two by chance), I gain nothing by piling on Blade, and I gain nothing but additional suspicion if I vote for someone else and Blade is a Chrysalid.

Dola, I was composing that while SF said he was starting to count the vote. :o

Stop trying to second guess! Now I'm glad I voted for you! If there are 2 aliens out of the 3, then we have a 66% chance, and you're not even on the chopping block. That's good, I'd say. If there are 3 out of 3 aliens (that means you), then we have a 100% chance of getting a hit tonight. How is this bad?

Also, say we don't hit the Chysalid. At least we know who the two other suspects are.

What I'm afraid of is that he IS the alien, and then I'm thrown up on the suspicious list because of my big mouth and me thinking out loud.

What I'm thinking is that one of the major joys of X-Com (for me) was that you'd start playing, and you'd be killing all of these Sectoids. All of a sudden, you come upon a terror mission or spacecraft, and start fighting these guys that looked nothing like Sectoids, and could fly! Or these nasty looking black things that couldn't fire at you, but could convert your soldiers into badguys (the Chryssalids)! I don't think an X-Com Werewolf game would be very good without multiple types of aliens. Because of that, I don't think we have more than one Chryssalid.

I think that a Chryssalid who could convert one of us every night would unbalance the game, so I'm thinking he either had one shot at it, or can only do it every other night or so. However, I'm pretty sure we'll have at least one less good guy after the night is over (not including a potential lynch of a good guy).

I have no idea what the point of this post is -- probably just nerves. I want to keep talking :)

By my count, we should have seven or eight for Blade, one for kingfc22, and two for Peregrine.

Well, not "very good..." I don't think it would be very true to X-Com if there weren't more than one alien species.

I'm going back to my room. I'll be looking at pix of the last time I was in Teri Hatcher's van, so I'll see you guys in the morning. I'm not leaving my room and the room is locked, so don't come a'knockin you Chryssalid!

Gonna be a bit longer. A couple PM'd me questions (what part of DO NOT make me do mental gymnastics did ya not understand, people :D) and I'm tabulating the vote/unvote/revote (some without unvotes)

Good one RA, way to twist my words to make ME sound suspicious, when you're the very suspicious one. Of course it's good if we get the alien, or 2 or 3. My point is that getting the chrysalid first is key, but we may not know if we do. Even if we do eventually get the Chrysalis, the aliens want to make us lynch as many innocents out of the 3 as possible. They know I'm innocent, so nice way to set me up for a lynch tomorrow...

If anyone is a target, it's me.

still reading through thread...trying to catch up....I said I was the pilot because I was role playing from the original X-Com dynasty.

I figured that.

Qwik, they'll probably kill you tonight, or possibly convert you if we aren't successful today. I'm just pointing out that we're 2 missed lynches away from being even with the aliens, assuming they kill someone the next two nights.

hoopsguy: Blade6119
Raiders Army: Peregrine
Coffee Warlord: Blade6119
Peregrine: Blade
Vince: Peregrine
Swaggs:Blade6119
Neon_Chaos: Swaggs
Fouts: Blade6119
JeeberD: Blade6119
digamma: Blade6119
Qwikshot: Blade6119
KingFC22: Blade6119

With the relevation of Qwikshot's information from his pocket recorder, voting quickly turns ugly against Blade6119, who glares at the computer. "Damn thing is off, I could prove my innocence if it was on.."

But then he focuses a glare on all of you and waves of pure hatred seem to radiate from his body. He raises his chin, and says.. "Computer.. do your worst. I'm not afriad to die.. you all are afraid to Live! Live like we were going to!"

The Sonic Cannon pops out of the recessed ceiling, and fires. He has time for one last laugh and then gets blown into the wall, trailing black ichor everywhere he goes. He raises his head, spits black blood, and dies.

Before your eyes, his body quickly dissolves, until there's nothing left but black ichor, bubbling away. That's never happened before........

Ranks of the Dead:

Schmidty (Blasted by All: Day 1)
Blade6119 (Blasted by All: day 2)

Sweetness!

WOOHOO!!!

So that's good, right? I don't know many people with Black Ichor running through their veins.

Excellent!

Nice work, one down.

Dola, I gather from the previous discussion about X-Com that black ichor suggests that Blade was a Chrysalid.

Yeah, that would indicate that he was either a Chryssalid or a Chryssalid zombie.

In the game, if a Chryssalid attacked one of your men enough, he'd turn into a walking zombie...but that zombie was actually just a host, and after a few turns it would turn INTO a Chryssalid.

Blade's statement "You all are afraid to live..." makes me wonder if he wasn't the converted zombie, though? And if a converted zombie would register as a Chryssalid to the 'look' that Qwik got? If Blade had been converted, then we might not even have the original Chryssalid in that group of three. If Blade WAS the original Chryssalid, we're still completely and totally unsure of whether or not either of the other two (Peregrine or Neon Chaos) are cleared now.

The way I take this is that Qwik would learn of the converted player. I think that the original 4 are still around. If this ability allowed Quik to look for ANY alien (not sure if all aliens are Chyrssalids or not) the odds would be much better that he would "hit" and would nearly ensure an alien death..

If you hadn't figured it out, we are in Night 2. All actions to me before 7 AM.

Correction, I can't tell what the aliens are...I can only tell what special role dead comrades were and if it's a good one, convert to it.

But I'll be dead by tomorrow but I'll try to take a few with me. {sharpens his blade}

Wow. Take long trek to work and all this unfolds while you're away. And to think that I almost got killed! However, good job guys, we seem to have bagged ourselves an alien! :)

I think it's pretty obvous that Blade was an alien... I have to rethink everything I've thought about and hypothesized... Jeez. :(

One for two so far. Not bad, lets keep this up. Who's next Qwik?