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cartman 11-11-2013 10:13 AM

Say "cheese"!


Vince, Pt. II 11-11-2013 10:28 AM

I wish there were a little more differentiation between the reds. I'm guessing SE Texas is Tampa?

Edit: re: NFL Fandom map.

I also wonder how different something like this would have looked if snapshots were taken in different decades. Obviously Facebook wasn't around, but I'd imagine that you'd see Green Bay all over the place in the '60s, Pittsburgh even more prevalent in the '70s, etc. I wonder how far the 49ers' influence would have spread even in the '80s? Would be an interesting indication of 'East Coast Bias', I'm sure.

digamma 11-11-2013 10:34 AM

Pretty sure that's Houston. (Both in location and fandom.)

Vince, Pt. II 11-11-2013 11:03 AM

Duh. I'm smart. S-M-R-T.

revrew 11-11-2013 11:22 AM

Hehe. Poor Jets. They get exactly 1 county.

Simbo Klice 11-11-2013 07:58 PM

I wonder what the population density in that Alaska Chiefs aberration is. I think I also remarked the last time this was posted on how that map makes the Jets' fanbase look like the smallest in the NFL.

SteveMax58 11-13-2013 07:14 PM


OldGiants 11-13-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2872225)
Right - I am aware of that racial element re: Redskins/Cowboys. And I can get being second or third in an area. But what the Redskins always seem to claim is that they still have a strong presence in the Carolinas and the South in general - roots stemming back from even before the Falcons. But if you look at that map and more so the rankings later in that link, that just doesn't seem to be the case (granted, that list may be less than scientific). Even for CAR home territory, WAS is behind DAL, PIT, and NE. And other than BAL, that's where they have the best representation. So I'm not seeing the breadth of fan base.

Yet they are always right behind DAL in the rankings. Ahead of NE (popular and in a major city), NYG (huge market), and PIT (huge national presence, but in a small city). Like you say, there could be an argument that the Jets would be more valuable, even as the second fiddle in NY. Or CHI.

I know the Redskins own their stadium, but really - that place is a bit of a dump, in an area with crap-all around it. I guess it's just because WAS "owns" a number of very rich counties?


One of the things I've been told and observed is the large number of Federal employees and military who cycle their careers through the DC area and become Washington football fans while they are working/based in the area. Thus Washington becomes their hometown team because they lack a true hometown.

cuervo72 11-13-2013 10:27 PM

I'm not so sure I buy that. I think a lot of the rank and file are originally from here (and many are black - see your Cowboys point above), and those that aren't don't necessarily shake their prior allegiances. Immigrants that settle in the area and begin following the sport? Maybe. Representatives and staff who stay for a bit then go back home? Doubtful. Or at the least overstated. Especially given the past 20 years, where they've pretty much sucked.

Subby 11-15-2013 10:21 AM

The best tattoo in the world. Especially if you love to lift weights.

Spoiler

kcchief19 11-15-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2872031)
I think I mentioned that article when it came out; I thought of it again when the Forbes list of most valuable franchises was released. Always amazes me that theRedskins remain high on that list (2nd, I think for the NFL) when they really don't have a national following anymore.

Value has very little to do with value and more to do with revenue and assets. The Redskins value has everything to do with the fact they own their own stadium and surrounding land in a high-value area and have an incredible season ticket and suite holder base.

The Chiefs probably have a wider fan base than the Redskins, but they don't own their stadium, they don't have a deep season ticket base and they don't have a long list of lobbyists and the like that pay big money for suites. Hence the lower value.

I'm not even sure the width and breadth of the Cowboys fan base even helps their value that much -- aren't merchandise revenues split evenly with the the league? I think teams only get to keep the lion's share of merchandise revenue for items they sell themselves.

Draft Dodger 11-15-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 2873358)
The best tattoo in the world. Especially if you love to lift weights.

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OUCH

albionmoonlight 11-15-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19 (Post 2873371)
Value has very little to do with value and more to do with revenue and assets. The Redskins value has everything to do with the fact they own their own stadium and surrounding land in a high-value area and have an incredible season ticket and suite holder base.

The Chiefs probably have a wider fan base than the Redskins, but they don't own their stadium, they don't have a deep season ticket base and they don't have a long list of lobbyists and the like that pay big money for suites. Hence the lower value.

I'm not even sure the width and breadth of the Cowboys fan base even helps their value that much -- aren't merchandise revenues split evenly with the the league? I think teams only get to keep the lion's share of merchandise revenue for items they sell themselves.


I worked for a big law firm in DC in 2002, while the Redskins were in the middle of a very mediocre stretch. And I was amazed at how hot the tickets were. There's a lot of money in that town, and there's a lot of lobbying/client recruitment, and Redskins tickets and/or boxes were definitely a status thing in that world. The quality of the team was secondary; getting to reward good clients with some sweet tickets was the thing. It may be the same way in other big cities, but it certainly surprised me coming from a small market.

cuervo72 11-15-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19 (Post 2873371)
Value has very little to do with value and more to do with revenue and assets. The Redskins value has everything to do with the fact they own their own stadium and surrounding land in a high-value area and have an incredible season ticket and suite holder base.

The Chiefs probably have a wider fan base than the Redskins, but they don't own their stadium, they don't have a deep season ticket base and they don't have a long list of lobbyists and the like that pay big money for suites. Hence the lower value.

I'm not even sure the width and breadth of the Cowboys fan base even helps their value that much -- aren't merchandise revenues split evenly with the the league? I think teams only get to keep the lion's share of merchandise revenue for items they sell themselves.


I know they own FedEx, but as stadiums go I can't imagine it is THAT valuable. It's pretty widely disparaged around here as being a crappy experience to a) get to and b) actually watch a game in. But then I guess I'd be hard-pressed to list the other teams which actually own their stadiums.

Recently the "incredible ticket base" has come under some fire too; fans who have given up their tickets, others repeatedly being mail-bombed that they are next in line (some who already gave up their tickets, others who weren't even on the list at all). They also removed a large chunk of seats for a "party deck" which was seen more of a way to save face because demand was going down and they might be in jeopardy of not selling those seats. I mean, they're still selling out, but I don't think the base is what it once was or what it has been advertised to be. RG3 may change that, but I think it's eroded with years of questionable management (Snyder, Vinnie).

kcchief19 11-15-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2873379)
Recently the "incredible ticket base" has come under some fire too; fans who have given up their tickets, others repeatedly being mail-bombed that they are next in line (some who already gave up their tickets, others who weren't even on the list at all). They also removed a large chunk of seats for a "party deck" which was seen more of a way to save face because demand was going down and they might be in jeopardy of not selling those seats. I mean, they're still selling out, but I don't think the base is what it once was or what it has been advertised to be. RG3 may change that, but I think it's eroded with years of questionable management (Snyder, Vinnie).

I agree the 75-year wait for season tickets or whatever it was is largely mythology. But albion perfectly sums up the makeup of the base that makes it valuable. Lobbyist, power brokers, corporations and others based in DC drive up the ticket value for premium seats substantially. Among my political friends in DC, tickets to the Redskins are considered among the highest gifts you can give or receive. The biggest chunk of money teams make on tickets aren't from individuals but from companies that buy blocks of tickets and suites. The Redskins score as strong as anybody on that front. They could probably play at a high school stadium and get companies and lobbyist to pony up $20,000 for a seat in the rickety press box.

To my knowledge the only teams that own their own stadiums are the Redskins and the Patriots. Green Bay is technically not owned by the team, but that's a unique situation.

cuervo72 11-15-2013 01:12 PM

I guess I'll concede this one. I just hate that it can be the case for an organization that can basically poo on their average fans because it has the greatest ability to court the rich.

korme 11-15-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby (Post 2873358)
The best tattoo in the world. Especially if you love to lift weights.

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That might be the worst thing I have ever seen

JonInMiddleGA 11-15-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2873428)
I guess I'll concede this one. I just hate that it can be the case for an organization that can basically poo on their average fans because it has the greatest ability to court the rich.


Well, more & more I think the "average fan" is "the rich".

Desnudo 11-15-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by korme (Post 2873454)
That might be the worst thing I have ever seen


He didn't skip leg day at least

ColtCrazy 11-15-2013 04:12 PM

The piercing may be real, but that tat isn't since the bottom of his cross is somehow behind the tat.

Toddzilla 11-15-2013 09:18 PM


cuervo72 11-15-2013 09:25 PM

Seriously?

(has to be a prank)

Izulde 11-15-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 2873586)
Seriously?

(has to be a prank)


From the interwebs it seems like the trending theory is hoax by WB, but you never know.

saldana 11-16-2013 10:51 AM

please let it be a prank

GrantDawg 11-16-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 2873587)
From the interwebs it seems like the trending theory is hoax by WB, but you never know.



Best explanation I saw: it is a viral tie-in to the new "Entourage" movie. I could totally see one of the guys supposedly being a producer for a Wonder Twins movie (remember, the main actor guy was Aquaman).

molson 11-16-2013 11:01 PM


MizzouRah 11-16-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 2873882)


:lol:

MizzouRah 11-18-2013 03:15 PM


Dutch 11-18-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 2873884)
:lol:


+1

Grover 11-18-2013 09:30 PM



An early birthday gift from my girlfriend.

QuikSand 11-19-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover (Post 2874450)
An early birthday gift from my girlfriend.


And I say it's a good thing that you're willing to share with us your fondness for sex toys. Live your dream!

sterlingice 11-19-2013 01:55 PM

I was going to make a silly little "cool but the blast looks kindof like a plastic q-tip" joke but I feel a little bad about that after Quik went there

SI

cartman 11-19-2013 04:17 PM


Pyser 11-20-2013 05:44 PM


sterlingice 11-21-2013 12:50 PM

Both quality additions. Two thumbs up

SI

sterlingice 11-21-2013 01:09 PM

Wow. I can't believe the JPMorgan one is real

AskJPM: A Twitter Fail for the Ages | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone

SI

CraigSca 11-21-2013 02:12 PM

Doesn't Jennifer Love Hewitt kinda look like a guy here?


ISiddiqui 11-21-2013 02:18 PM

Is that fat long haired Donnie Osmond?

Draft Dodger 11-21-2013 02:50 PM

it's Jeff Beck

jeff061 11-21-2013 02:52 PM

Eddie Van Halen?

cartman 11-23-2013 04:10 PM


21C 11-23-2013 06:00 PM


Desnudo 11-23-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 2874383)


That implies the Jags have a trophy

Izulde 11-29-2013 11:58 PM


Critch 11-30-2013 11:28 PM



Not sure if this belongs in here or in the Steam thread.

Pyser 12-03-2013 08:13 PM



guy paints a replica of the super bowl field (and rose bowl too) every year in his front yard.

DanGarion 12-07-2013 05:40 PM


cartman 12-09-2013 04:15 PM


Dutch 12-09-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion (Post 2880293)


So awesome.

Blackadar 12-09-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 2881003)
So awesome.


Agreed. Probably the best pic on this entire thread.


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