Like who?

Thanks Lathum! That is awesome :D

The people I am most suspicious of at this point are you, Mccollins, Packerfanatic and maybe Claphamsa. Packer has quietly voted to eliminate a different villager each day and has been very under the radar. Claphamsa has played very differently from the two games I was in which he was a villager, but there's really nothing more than that for him at this point.

Also, Eaglefan has managed to vote for no one who has gotten lynched, is this typically good or bad?

I just got my scores back for the CBEST and I passed. It wasn't that difficult, but I was already accepted into a hard to get into graduate program and this was the last thing I needed. I feel so relieved now, I would have been so upset if I wasn't able to be admitted because of this :)

Sorry the diversion, but I feel so much better now!

whats CBEST?

It's a search engine??? :confused:

:D

California Basic Educational Skills Test. Its required to teach and for other things. I already did very well on the GRE, interview and other things for entrance. This was an easier test, but the last one I needed. And since the next test scheduled wasn't until August, I would have been in danger of losing my spot.

OK, thats some funny shit

Now that Olie is dead and innocent can we please go after Pass???

This post makes me think that EITHER Pass or MCcollins is a wolf, but not both. I have my blinders on with Pass though, and will worry about Mcc tomorrow

Didn't SnDvls turn out to be the seer? Doesn't this mean everybody should be voting Pass right now?

This vote makes me trust Eaglefan

why is he clearly a wolf?

who would that be?

If Sndvls voted eaglefan... maybe we should go after him next? but he did vote saldana and he was clean

I wasn't home when you posted this.... did it say I was online? I got home at 3:45 central

woohoo, 8 dolas, I rock.

A couple of things I would like to point out. We are going after different people each day... instead of focusing on people we put heat on, but got nothing out of. Where did all the pressure on CR go? Did we forget about him? And we really are not working as a team, even though its hard to figure out who is a wolf or not, we are just off in our world not trying to do whats best for the village. Sndvls seemed like a perfect wolf, and i am very interested to find out how early in the draft Poli picked him, and if hoops would have picked him if poli had not for the wolf team.

Our main roles left are the hunter and philosopher. I assume the philosopher has not found the cultist or we would be made aware by now. Also, if the hunter is alive at the end, we win, so i am glad he is still in the game.

Yeah, that is very odd.

I voted mccollins yesterday, and I am still leaning that way, but Danny is giving me a bad vibe. I know that that's not "analysis", but it's a gut feeling. For now, I'll stick with yesterday's vote:

Vote mccollins

21 entrants, 5 wolves... 6 dead villagers, so villagers are still ahead; 10-5, but I really dont like that ratio

I was just being funny. My wife used to be a teacher in California once upon a time so I knew what it was :) Grats on passing!

Thanks! The was the last prerequisite I needed. I am officially good to go now and will be moved from conditionally accepted to full acceptance :)

Yeah, congratulations man!!!!

Sorry, I wasn't saying who was online. I was waving to the wolves.

We're still at this point? RendeR and Telle. Let's start out my COT with them. Next up is Alan T -- Duke.

In the next level of trust, we've got EagleFan. His late vote to try to save olie makes me trust him a bit. I'm also liking him because I'm not trusting mccollins.

In the middle, we've got the rest: GE, Schmidties M and F, and CR.

In the last level, we've got the wolves. LSG tipped me off, when she preferred a run-off between me and olie yesterday -- when it's villager/villager, the wolves can relax. PF and Danny were also voters for olie. The tough one to crack here is clap. He voted for mccollins, but he voted early. My hunch is that they were sweating this one out quite a bit, but they knew that even if the vote managed to get tied, they had the Masons (RendeR and Telle on their side.

There's 14 players left in the game, so we're actually at 9-5 here. The cultist makes it 10-4 as far as win scenarios go, though.

Congrats!

I don't feel particularly good about either Pass or Mccollins, but I want to hear from someone else I am suspicious about. Packerfanatic has been in on the vote for every villager kill thus far and has been way UTR and hasn't had to show much of anything. At the least, I'd like to see him respond to a couple of votes.

Vote Packerfanatic

If you want to see a couple, I'll join you.

VOTE PACKERFANATIC

Although my hunch is you will be moving your vote.

As of Post 1933:

4 Passacaglia: Claphamsa (1864), PackerFanatic (1865), Telle (1872), Lonestargirl (1923)
2 mccolins: EagleFan (1855), Schmidty (1921)
2 PackerFanatic: Danny (1931), Passacaglia (1932)

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

I'm sticking with my vote from yesterday and who SnDvls voted for yesterday as well - hoping he saw something then.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was stating my belief that you are far from cleared, so not sure we should buy into you saying Telle is a mason. BTW, that post reads like a statement, not a hunch. I am glad you clarify that here.

And never said you said you yourself was a Mason. Just heading off at the pass (pun intended, lol) in case anyone leaps to trusting you on that statement alone (or trusting Telle).

Fair enough. :) I am still reading through the thread, but I look forward to seeing how this goes, too. I don't have big issues going after any of those three (or Telle).

I won't be on in the morning since I have to be at work at 7:30am pst.

I'm comfortable with my vote and don't anticipate changing it in the morning. Let's hope that Lathum was the fake seer and we nab a wolf.

I agree with everything oliegirl has said to this point, and am surprised you don't see how the wolves might try to pull that off. Frankly, this game has been a CF from the get-go, and that was just one more mindf***, IMO.

Also, you're forgetting that the wolves have their own seer searcher, according to the rule set. They may be confident they will find the real seer and not to concerned with drawing him/her out. It's not like it would be hard for them (with the advantage of knowing who are wolves) to narrow down the list of potential seers pretty significantly in just a day or two.

I would guess it is more worth it to the wolves to confuse the seer and keep him from coming out until they can find him. After all, who else can hurt them now?

Well, can't say I am surprised, although I certainly could have been talked onto her as others were.

I guess we just have to take what we can from this. The good news is that we have a bead on our masons. Of course, so do the wolves, so I am not too interested in spelling things out for them. But the way they have played, I doubt they need any help. :(

...sigh

Okay, so the wolves already found the seer or got lucky. I didn't think SnDvls was the seer, although he was certainly on my shortlist of potentials simply out of not being cleared (it's virtually the same list for wolves, though).

Hey, congrats! Now go get a job, subby! :)

TBH, I am very curious about EF. His voting history has been questionable to say the least. But Pass is also still a "person of interest" for me.

Well, unless olie and mccollins are both villagers. Then it doesn't really matter to him where his vote is, and he could just be setting up his continuing "no cleared villagers voted" record.

I don't really get this.

Pass, to me, is "acting" like a villager. I have argued for killing him to attempt to clear the matter of the seers, but that is no longer an issue. I don't necessarily say we shouldn't vote him out, because we may still determine who the actual seer was, and thus put our faith down thusly and correctly on the right seer. But I don't think the vote on him is as curious as the one on EF. Pass has been a target for a bit now. If SnDvls scanned Telle instead of Pass (they are a linked toss up in my mind), then he might never have scanned Pass going into today, so his vote might have been the same sort of logic I saw in voting for Pass.

But with EF, SnDvls clearly stepped away from the direction villagers were going. He avoided the Daddy Torgo-Lathum fight altogether, and was the lone vote on EF on Day Two, in a critical vote battle. He certainly could have scanned EF after Day One. EF made a hit and run vote that day with no explanation, which is always curious.

I wish someone would put together a single post encapsulation of the argument against mccollins, because in my mind, a slip like that isn't enough to kill him this deep into the game, unless we have absolutely nothing else. And I just don't believe that to be the case.

EF has managed to avoid voting for anyone we can clear. He did a hit and run vote on Day One. A seer stepped completely out of the norm on Day Two to vote for him (and the real one, if you buy what Lathum was saying, and I do). He is uncleared in any way. And he was a key contributor to the lynch of oliegirl, before a last minute deadline to take him off of a villager lynch.

In my mind, no one left in the game has built up a bigger resume for davious wolfish behavior.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

'davious' translated through Lathum/clap-speak == devious

I'm sure you said a lot after this, but I'll steal your method and reply anyway! :cool:

As the game goes on, I've become more and more convinced I'm right about the Masons. You'd think if there were two real Masons out there, they'd vote for RendeR or Telle to let me know I'm wrong. Anyway, no, I never said I was a Mason -- it's against the rules for the Masons to reveal, which is why I had to do it for them.

Anyway....if I'm a wolf, why would I kill Sunny D?

cuz hes the seer, and you dont want him to nab other woves?