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tarcone 10-09-2019 03:19 PM

The Bible predicts the end of the world at Armegeddon. Turkey invading Syria is a scary, scary thing.

JediKooter 10-09-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3252929)
So it wasn't the racism, the sexism, the scams, the paying off of porn stars, the cuddling up to Russia, the lies, the rampant deficit, failure to overturn the ACA, or the Ukraine calls, but the Kurds that may cause conservatives to flip on Trump?


It appears that just may be the case. I mean, any normal person, all of that should have been enough to flip on trump.

At this point in time, to me, if you are not racist, rich or russian, there's no good reason to support the current occupant of the White House.

tarcone 10-09-2019 03:22 PM

We are all fucked. You realize that Putin is coming off as the smartest world leader right, right? What the F?

We are doomed. If this world lasts 10 years I would be shocked. #Nuclearwar.

JediKooter 10-09-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3252933)
We are all fucked. You realize that Putin is coming off as the smartest world leader right, right? What the F?

We are doomed. If this world lasts 10 years I would be shocked. #Nuclearwar.


I agree with you on Putin. You can take the boy out of the KGB but you can't take the KGB out of the boy. He knows how to play the game like a seasoned veteran, where as trump, is like a toddler shitting in his diapers and trying to stick his fingers in the light sockets.

Nuclear war though, not likely. That would completely defeat the purpose of having all the money and power that Putin and his ilk are accumulating. They just want to control it all, not destroy it all and trump is nothing more than a useful pawn to him and once trump is no longer useful, he will get cast aside.

JPhillips 10-09-2019 03:45 PM

Shorter Trump: It's okay to betray the Kurds because they didn't help us in World War 2.

RainMaker 10-09-2019 03:49 PM

Watching the evangelical community because the Kurds were protecting the Christians in that region will be interesting. Some have spoken out but usually in the end the cult of personality wins out and they'll get back to licking his boots.

The Senate will not change their views. He has too much support in the states they represent. Heck, even Democrats are too cowardly to put an impeachment vote on the table.

ISiddiqui 10-09-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3252929)
So it wasn't the racism, the sexism, the scams, the paying off of porn stars, the cuddling up to Russia, the lies, the rampant deficit, failure to overturn the ACA, or the Ukraine calls, but the Kurds that may cause conservatives to flip on Trump?


So one of the narratives evangelicals have been very big about lately is that Christians are being persecuted and they are literally being killed (a genocide was happening) in the Middle East by Muslim extremists (and the media is ignoring it, etc). So a lot of evangelicals are very, very, very sensitive to Middle East Christians.

It's almost as bad as if Trump come out in favor of late term abortion.

RainMaker 10-09-2019 05:48 PM

Remember how important tough sanctions on Iran were to this President?


tarcone 10-09-2019 06:14 PM

Trump pulls troops from Syria. Opens a couple Trump plazas in Turkey. Turkey invades Syria. Conspiracy or coincidence?

cuervo72 10-09-2019 08:24 PM

Pretty good twitter.

Liz Cheney on Twitter: "News from Syria is sickening. Turkish troops preparing to invade Syria from the north, Russian-backed forces from the south, ISIS fighters attacking Raqqa. Impossible to understand why @realDonaldTrump is leaving America’s allies to be slaughtered and enabling the return of ISIS"

(the responses, of course)

Ben E Lou 10-09-2019 08:30 PM







stevew 10-09-2019 10:43 PM

They should start polling for impeach/remove/hang for treason.

Everything going on and he’s taking time to criticize basketball coaches.

JPhillips 10-10-2019 10:27 AM

Two Ukrainians that Giuliani was working with were arrested today for campaign finance crimes. Among other things they were making straw donations using made-up company names like:

Quote:

Fraud Guarantee
Loan Crime Investigative Group

Seriously.

albionmoonlight 10-10-2019 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3253033)
Two Ukrainians that Giuliani was working with were arrested today for campaign finance crimes. Among other things they were making straw donations using made-up company names like:



Seriously.


My wife took a creative writing class. People would write stories, and the instructor would sometimes criticize scenes in the stories for being unrealistic/unbelievable. And the writers would counter that "But that part of the story actually happened in real life!"

And the teacher would say "I am sure that this did actually happen. But the difference between real life and fiction is that fiction has to be believable."

I feel that every aspect of the Giuliani parts of the Trump story is 100% true, and would 100% get cut by an editor for being laughably unbelievable.

Izulde 10-10-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3253034)
. But the difference between real life and fiction is that fiction has to be believable."


Huge caveat here: It has to be believable within the terms and conditions of the fictional world and text. So it's not about excising an unbelievable event - it's about melding the world and text so that the event is believable within its confines.

Thomkal 10-10-2019 03:39 PM

Lindsay Graham got pranked by Russians posing as a Turkish Defense Minister:


Lindsey Graham dishes on Trump in hoax calls with Russians - POLITICO

JPhillips 10-10-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 3253039)
Huge caveat here: It has to be believable within the terms and conditions of the fictional world and text. So it's not about excising an unbelievable event - it's about melding the world and text so that the event is believable within its confines.


It's so hard not to derail this thread with literary theory.

kingfc22 10-10-2019 03:44 PM

These clowns are embarrassing.

Joe St. George on Twitter: "Breaking: @SenCoryGardner refuses to answer question whether it is appropriate for the President to ask a foreign leader to investigate a rival. Quite the exchange in Denver #copolitics #kdvr… https://t.co/oC7InYhK3d"

Izulde 10-10-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3253063)
It's so hard not to derail this thread with literary theory.


But fun to give in to the temptation

Thomkal 10-10-2019 03:47 PM

Trump tells reporters he doesn't know the two Ukranians, but of course there are pictures of Parnas at the White House where he had an "incredible dinner and even better conversation"


Trump Jr with him too

JediKooter 10-10-2019 04:38 PM

Annnd Rick "What's the Department of Energy?" Perry gets a subpoena:

Democrats subpoena U.S. Energy Secretary Perry in Trump impeachment probe

BYU 14 10-10-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3253062)
Lindsay Graham got pranked by Russians posing as a Turkish Defense Minister:


Lindsey Graham dishes on Trump in hoax calls with Russians - POLITICO


Just wow listening to that call. Not quite the public opinions he expresses, he is a like small town used Car salesman.

JediKooter 10-10-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3253082)
Just wow listening to that call. Not quite the public opinions he expresses, he is a like small town used Car salesman.


FFS Lindsey: Graham labeled the Kurds a “threat” to Turkey in the call, seemingly contradicting what he has said publicly in recent days.

Atocep 10-10-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 3253083)
FFS Lindsey: Graham labeled the Kurds a “threat” to Turkey in the call, seemingly contradicting what he has said publicly in recent days.


You have to understand how difficult of a position he is in balancing the religious right's needs along with Trump's.

JediKooter 10-10-2019 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3253084)
You have to understand how difficult of a position he is in balancing the religious right's needs along with Trump's.


Probably feels like being stuck between two black holes.

Atocep 10-10-2019 05:12 PM

Is it considered normal for the Attorney General to meet with Chairman of Fox News at his home?

spleen1015 10-10-2019 05:27 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/polit...run/index.html

The internet is going to meme the shit out of this.

JediKooter 10-10-2019 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3253090)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/polit...run/index.html

The internet is going to meme the shit out of this.


He can't even get softball questions right. Instead, he tries to trumpsplain and just reaffirms that he is in over his head.

thesloppy 10-10-2019 05:51 PM

I can't say I ever did it, but I did.

thesloppy 10-10-2019 05:54 PM

Earlier in this thread I wondered if Trump could/has ever prepare(d) food for himself. What are some other basics that would likely stump Trump? Could he take mass transit alone? Could he check-out from a supermarket?

JediKooter 10-10-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3253101)
Earlier in this thread I wondered if Trump could/has ever prepare(d) food for himself. What are some other basics that would likely stump Trump? Could he take mass transit alone? Could he check-out from a supermarket?


In addition to the things above...
Things I Highly Doubt Trump Could Do (not a complete list):
- Fill a car up with gas
- Wash clothes
- Cook on a grill (let alone get it started)
- Not lie
- Order a pizza online or by phone
- Do a push up
- Make himself a sandwich
- Point out Boise Idaho on a map
- Put a puzzle together
- Change a flat tire
- Not run a company into bankruptcy

thesloppy 10-10-2019 06:42 PM

Pumping gas is a good one. No way.

If Donald Trump was in one of those last-man-on-Earth situations, where all the resources are still readily available, but there's no other people: how long can he live? I say 3 days.

thesloppy 10-10-2019 06:51 PM

Non-surprise of the day, it appears that Rudy's fleeing doofuses may have deeper connections to Trump than initially speculated.

Lathum 10-10-2019 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3253101)
Earlier in this thread I wondered if Trump could/has ever prepare(d) food for himself. What are some other basics that would likely stump Trump? Could he take mass transit alone? Could he check-out from a supermarket?


Operate a can opener- manual or electric
Reset a breaker
Change the toiler paper
Jumpstart a car
Color in the lines
open a coconut
send a letter
fold laundry (to be fair my wife may say I can't either)
Work a recliner

thesloppy 10-10-2019 07:18 PM

Imagine how much extra time you'd have if you never had to do shit for yourself!

spleen1015 10-10-2019 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3253111)
Imagine how much extra time you'd have if you never had to do shit for yourself!


Lots of time to tweet!

JPhillips 10-10-2019 08:17 PM

I hate Trump as much as anyone, but remember that he went to a small, pretty tough military school for a while. He's had experience doing a lot of manual labor skills.

Which just says he isn't ignorant, he just chooses to be an ass about those things.

thesloppy 10-10-2019 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3253116)
I hate Trump as much as anyone, but remember that he went to a small, pretty tough military school for a while. He's had experience doing a lot of manual labor skills.

Which just says he isn't ignorant, he just chooses to be an ass about those things.


Oh man, turns out he was even in the driver's education club. Shows what I know.

I am surprised to learn he made it through military school, tho I'd still be willing to wager he was probably a remarkable weasel there too, based on nothing/everything.

Atocep 10-10-2019 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3253108)
Non-surprise of the day, it appears that Rudy's fleeing doofuses may have deeper connections to Trump than initially speculated.


What prosecutors seem to be building a case for is huge. If these guys are guilty of what they're being accused of I don't see how Giuliani avoids arrest as well.

thesloppy 10-10-2019 10:05 PM

Oh man.

Adam Parkhomenko on Twitter: "at least there’s no video https://t.co/JVaUyJpm4V"

Atocep 10-10-2019 10:09 PM

John Oliver calling this Stupid Watergate couldn't have possibly been more fitting.

cuervo72 10-10-2019 10:36 PM

Domino's Pizza Commercial with Donald Trump (2005) - YouTube

I mean, with his loves of junk food and talking on the telephone, ordering pizza is something I can absolutely see him doing.

Now, actually PAYING for said pizza...

Butter 10-11-2019 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3253109)
Operate a can opener- manual or electric
Reset a breaker
Change the toiler paper
Jumpstart a car
Color in the lines
open a coconut
send a letter
fold laundry (to be fair my wife may say I can't either)
Work a recliner


I mean I still have to look up instructions to jump start a car when I do it, just so I don't fry something or myself. I let the ends touch one time, that was fun.

Fidatelo 10-11-2019 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 3253143)
I let the ends touch one time, that was fun.



Phrasing! :p

stevew 10-11-2019 08:35 AM

I dunno about a lot of stuff but I’m going to assume he’s had someone under his employment known as the “passwords guy” whom he constantly calls for login information.

spleen1015 10-11-2019 08:36 AM

How can Trump stop this former ambassador from testifying?

JediKooter 10-11-2019 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3253107)
Pumping gas is a good one. No way.

If Donald Trump was in one of those last-man-on-Earth situations, where all the resources are still readily available, but there's no other people: how long can he live? I say 3 days.


I'm trying envision him being either, Vincent Price, Charlton Heston, or Will Smith...and nope...I'd say you are right, he's a goner in 3 days, probably from not being able to operate a manual can opener, throws the can of Spaghetti-Os that then bounces back and hits him in the head, where he then falls down the stairs of the White House, breaking his neck.

JediKooter 10-11-2019 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3253116)
I hate Trump as much as anyone, but remember that he went to a small, pretty tough military school for a while. He's had experience doing a lot of manual labor skills.

Which just says he isn't ignorant, he just chooses to be an ass about those things.


Is there a difference between rich kid military school and juvenile delinquent military school? I honestly don't know or if that's even a thing. However, when it comes to the rich, things are usually 99.9999999% waaaay easier than it is for normal people, so my suspicions are that it was probably a cake walk, but, difficult for them because they are used to being pampered and waited on hand and foot. One thing is for sure, for being a military school, it sure didn't teach him about honor and integrity.

JPhillips 10-11-2019 09:11 AM

I live very close to NYMA, and it certainly wasn't a swanky, rich kids only military school.

JediKooter 10-11-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3253152)
I live very close to NYMA, and it certainly wasn't a swanky, rich kids only military school.


Ah cool. Honestly didn't know. My experiences with military schools are Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure and TAPS. :)


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