And Gorka and Pompeo are travelling tonight together to Italy where Barr is...

Should it be the reporter's job to cast judgement on who's moral though? Reporters should present facts and leave judgement up to the readers.

Yes. The job of journalism isn't neutrality or balance, but truth. Saying, Some see Nazis as evil, but others disagree, provides misinformation to readers in the guise of objectivity.

I grant that things get much more challenging with examples not as extreme, but always being neutral produces a bias of its own.

And normalizes bad behavior, such as white supremacy marches.

Yay 70 years of murderous regime!

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— Haley Britzky (@halbritz) October 1, 2019

Can you imagine if any D president congratulated a Communist leader on the anniversary of the Communist takeover?

I'm pro-Wall (with holistic immigration reform) but this is going too far. When I read the headlines I thought he was making a joke but it doesn't sound that way in the article.

Trump suggested shooting migrants in the legs: NYT | TheHill

I read the whole article earlier and it shows a staggering level of dysfunction in the White House. Problem is Trump supporters will just yell fake news!

I have no idea how someone so obviously dense and repeatedly displays his stupidity world the world to see has people that believe he's one of the smartest people on the planet.

The mental gymnastics people go through in order to believe this man is actually intelligent is astounding.

yet still the frog's bones continue to boil and no one does shit.

Watch the movie Us. This is it. The worst of people has been allowed to be shown (which is good because now we see the truth beneath many people's facades) but once out it'll be very hard to hide them again.

I keep thinking if the Right saw an article where Trump's name was replaced with Kim Jong Un or Turkey's PM they'd be like fuck that guy!! 'Merica but since it's Trump and its here they're like yeah so fuck the rest of the world. This is our guy!! and fuck you and fuck you! He didn't say "though" he didnt say shoot them, you can't believe google or news, fuck news and almost fuck Fox cuz a few hours are not my narrative, fuck them shoot the whistleblower!! TREASON.

It's exhausting for me but they seem to never get exhausted.

And here we go:


Trump calls impeachment probe ‘a coup’ designed to strip citizens of rights in furious Twitter thread | The Independent

Psst, the people didn't vote for your ass.

This is probably what sparked that outburst:


Trump administration officials agree to testify about Ukraine call for impeachment investigation | The Independent

Yeah Atocep and a Inspector-General of the State Dept I believe asked for an emergency briefing with House committees tomorrow on something urgent.

So it’s not enough simply to impeach and remove. You also have to disqualify as well. Good job, good effort framers.

I agree with the first sentence, but the second does not follow from that starting point. If your job is to report truth, then it's about what Nazis stand for and facts about various Nazi groups, not whether they are evil or not. There's a big difference between truth and making value judgements. Similarly, reporting facts about how many people support Nazi ideology is the job of the journalist; saying whether or not those people are correct in doing so is not.

Poll: 40 percent of Republicans say Trump 'probably' mentioned Biden on Ukraine call | TheHill


This. This is why this is such an uphill battle. The President has openly admitted to bringing up Biden in the phone call, and the White House released the transcript. Yet, most Republicans believe he didn't bring up Biden. How? Because most Republicans no longer care about the truth in any form. Just "own then libs."

I disagree, simply put journalism has to have some sort of value system built into it. It can't be a black and white line, it never has been. I don't think humans are even capable of it. The first papers in this country were basically 100% editorial, and they helped shape attitudes of the day. You cannot remove the value judgements away, but they shouldn't be the end all, be all, of it either.

Before my wife ran her school paper, she wrote a lot of articles on the sports teams. The professor that over saw everything kept on telling her she had to have an angle. My wife would get frustrated because she was covering XYZ game, her angle was providing a game recap. As she put it, if she was writing an editorial, you have an angle or argument you promoting, if you are recounting an event, you recount the event minimizing your personal bias about the event.

Moat filled with alligators and snakes?

It's like Cartman from South Park is now the president*.

From a real Trump tweet:

Ah I see no Moot, but a Moat...

It may be a Moot point.

Maybe he's secretly Canadian?

I will serve with humility and distinction

But do you like hamberders?

Early reporting on this is that it may be in part Pompeo threatening discipline if State Dept employees cooperated with Congress.

don't you put that covfefe on me

Well, you know what they say...where's there's smock, there's covfefe.

You guys can't carry Trump's blankstrap.

Like for example, the "Boston Massacre"?

Gives new meaning to, 'Drain the swamp'.

Ya know, whether there was actual removal from office level wrongdoing here, or if this is just another attempt from the left to remove Trump by any means necessary is becoming rapidly irrelevant. His descent into total crazy is far more concerning than a phone call.

How has this guy not been medically diagnosed with some sort of mental instability? You could make an easier case than this whole Ukraine mess by arguing his mental competency to hold office.

His multiple attempts at obstructing justice should have been enough, but, when you have a complicit senate, a staff that are nothing but 'yes men', an attorney general that's nothing more than a consigliere and have stacked the courts, well, here we are...I highly doubt that they are concerned with the mental competency of President* Big Brain.

I have had my brain checked by doctors. Good respected doctors. The BEST doctors. The doctors tell me my brain is fine. Its better than fine. In fact the doctors tell me I have the best brain they have ever seen. It will last at least another 100 years they tell me. My brain is great. Its perfect. Its better than it was when I was 25.

My visit with the doctor was perfect. That's what everybody said.

Let's say Trump went to the doctor and major brain trauma was found, would anyone here actually start feeling sorry for him?

Maybe I would for him, but his staff and medical team who had to know by now that something was wrong with him and did nothing? I'd feel sorry for the firestorm about to be unleashed on them, but they would deserve it.

Now a Dem Representative had a press conference saying the IG briefed them on an attempt by Trump and Pompeo to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories about the Ambassador to Ukraine due to testify next week and political opponemts-there were envelopes from the Trump Hotel in the packet supposedly.

If the punctuation wasn't so good, it would be like I was reading this from the horses mouth.

Easily. I already knew who Trump was, be it due to brain damage or just being utterly reprobate and a dummy. It’s those with the power to have stopped this who stood by and watched with whom I have beef. I knew he was a snake.

You assume everyone in Trump's orbit is dirty, but Pompeo somehow stayed under the radar as far as just how dirty he is.

Also, Pence is doing his best to position himself as President Pence. He's admitted he had some involvement in the Ukraine plot, but didn't have any knowledge of what was actually going on. If you're forced to claim you didn't know what was going on you're kind of admitting something wrong was happening.

Absolutely. I don't like how we so easily cheer when things happen to people we don't like. I know how terrifying the idea of dementia is to me, so being happy that someone else is suffering from it just sounds like a truly horrible thing.

No.

He was always a POS. From rent discrimination to the central park 5 to what he pulled with the Taj Mahal he has ruined countless lives and never once even acted contrite. A close family friend was screwed by him, losing tens of thousands of dollars in pianos at the Taj, and there are several others like him. He is also a shitty husband and father.

I hope when he dies it is painful for him and his family of shitbags.

Trump just told the press that Ukraine and China should investigate the Bidens.

I guess we're past all of the "he didn't do it" takes?

We're quickly blanching into the "I can do it, it's fine, it's only to protect myself and all the attacks I'm under, and I'm going to do it, and it's legal and by saying it's fine, people will believe it's completely fine" line of defense where others will be blamed and that makes it ok for him to 'fight back' yet again. In fact, that's really the only defense I hear now (OMG, He's just being treated to badly, and omg, it's so not fair, and this has never happened before, and those people are just awful), besides the brainwashed few who believe him to be the best leader since Washington.

If everything comes in 3s, what is #3?

1. Snake and Alligator filled most
2. Retweeting Nickelback Photoshopped meme of the Bidens

#3 almost has to involve OJ Simpson ?

soldiers with bayonets all along the border?

Remember, he publicly stated that he thinks Article II of the Constitution says he can do whatever he wants.