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FWIW, I think if Ben shared more info like the post above explaining the boxings, it would be great and calm a lot of people down.
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Piece of advice for what it's worth... Don't get so frustrated with modding that you start to feel that you'd leave FOFC "for good" once you're through. I did that - stayed away for 5 years or so (some people probably wish I continued to stay away) - and it didn't need to be that way. Frankly, I let my frustrations with certain folks go on too long to the point that I had to walk away. I could have and should have let go of the board earlier. I could have then stuck around as a normal poster. But I didn't and had to walk away entirely from FOFC, which I helped build into something I was quite proud of. It was a shame, really. But that's just my story and if you're not walking down the same path then I'm glad for you. |
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I don't know much about any of the personalities in this discussion, but the "vibe" I get is that BEL loves FOF, and the board - but "Off Topic" is a stresser.
Not sure if it's possible within boards, but, is there a way to grant moderation to (trusted) folks that do enjoy Off Topic, and BEL could run the things he enjoys ? Maybe pop in OT as a poster in topics he cares about, w/o being burdened with modding those he doesn't. Seems like a winning scenario. |
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Don't you think this is part of the problem? I would think as moderator, owner, whatever, that you would want/need more of a pulse of the OT forum, since it is the largest contributor here. Everyone you referenced are pretty regular posters that have been members for years. |
And that was solely my point - not just for Ben but for the other mods. All mods should be an active part of this community and if any of them leave (in anger, frustration, wasteland, time comittment, or whatever), then they should pass the duties along to others. We should not and cannot expect Ben to do it all by himself. If a mod is active, then a constructive dialogue can take place; otherwise, it perceives that those from fobl chat and elsewhere do not care about this place and has to grudgingly come over to discipline.
I echo what kcchief and others have said. There are very few boards that I visit but this is the first one I check because I had been doing it for a long time. Recent threads like the iPhone apps one (before it got all racey ;) ) was valuable for me, as well as most gaming threads. And I have enjoyed this thread because I've always enjoyed cool pictures and gifs (except those coming from very slow sites). While I don't share much anymore (quite dismayed by the anti-privacy trend, facebookers included), I have not forgotten what it was like here and the investment we have made together. |
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Long-time, yes. In fairness though, gkb only has less than 1000 posts, so he's generally pretty quiet. CrimsonFox has 13k, so he's pretty active (though *half* of them are in Werewolf, which I'd guess is even further off Ben's radar than OT). Toddzilla I'd say is definitely higher profile around here. |
I can't believe Ben didn't recognize Toddzilla. Unreal.
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Wait what? Where is this thread and how did I totally miss it?!? |
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IIRC, that comment may actually be in this thread somewhere. Easiest way to find it is probably just to check most recent posts by him & work from that (shouldn't be all that many to sort through, it was around mid-week IIRC) |
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Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - POLL: Should we delete the cool images thread? |
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Like he said, he only knows those who come across his path good or bad. There are many of us here who I am sure slip under the radar even though we have been here for years. I would probably be one of them except for my time at WOOF. I have a few thoughts in general, none are really well thought out. The issues raised are not just the thoughts of a squeaky few or upset trouble makers, they just happen to be the voice of that group. I have been outside of the politics of FOFC for a long time, but even then, it's evident that there are certain social strata within the group in general. The board in general is in decline. Mostly due to the lack of a new game, but many of us are growing older and life just takes you in a new direction. Still, there are a number of other reasons as well. I do feel like this thread has been "targeted" by someone just for the sake of poking the masses. This thread lived on for years with no problems at all. The issues have been well discussed. The issues with the moderating are totally legit. I understand the my way or the highway approach but talking down to adults that have been a part of this group for years can't be a step in the right direction. I would bet that there are a number of people like me who find themselves spending less time here because of the way things have gone, but don't post or feed the drama because it doesn't suit them. I feel philosophical like Abe does. You spend all this time here, but in the end you'll have nothing to show for it, unless you have made connections outside of here. Even though I feel very connected to all of you right now. So leaving just for the sake of leaving is a big choice. Which is I guess why there are a number of alternatives popping up here and there (see my sig). But as you all know, Sportsdigs had all this 2 weeks ago. |
Well since there isn't a shortage of two-cents worth about the board operations & how personalities are involved, I'll throw in mine. Virtually nobody will give a shit but I'd be happier if I were on the record regardless ... and I ain't bashful about indulging just to make myself a little happier.
I like Ben, consider him a friend. He knows that my preferred style of moderation & his are very different things, we established that years ago. Somehow we manage to get past that fact with hardly a ripple, and no ripples worth either of us considering for more than about two seconds. I'm not crazy about the work of the other moderators as a group, I won't even begin to try to single out any of them (honestly I try to forget they exist as much as possible). I've done essentially the same job elsewhere, I know the ups & downs of it and I'm not suggesting for a second that it's easy ... I've just reached the point where I honestly feel like overall they're doing more harm to the board as moderators than good. I know the pitfalls that come up with long term modding & think a reset might be a good thing ... but probably wouldn't be considerably better. An elephant is a mouse designed by committee, and once the moderation community grows beyond one person, inconsistencies seem almost inevitable.Ultimately "hell is other people" (and yeah, I know that quote is used out of the original context) and there's a whole lotta of "other people" here. The friction, strife, etc. is pretty much inevitable. |
ironically, it was in the thread debating whether or not this thread should be deleted
edit: well about 20 people posted since i answered that question. |
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It's a message board. Read stuff, and then go live your life. Do not let this place become your reality. Type "tits" into your google search and enjoy.
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I think that's sorta kinda how things devolved around here in the first place :D |
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Everybody realizes its a message board. Nobody needs fofc to live. Having opinions about the board or any of the other topics discussed here isn't inconsistent with that. Kobe's injury isn't our "reality" either. |
This thread used to be sooooooo much fun, now it's just me hitting pg dn through all the BS to see one ridiculously stupid photo.
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I would like to propose a new moderating system. The number of Bens it takes to remove all objectionable material from a picture is the number of weeks you get boxed. Sublimes picture is a 6 Ben Offense, so six weeks.
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Fuck a plain waffle, that's for sure.
Fuck a plain waffle, coming straight from the underground. That waffle's blue, but it's 'posed to be brown. |
Do NOT do a Google image search for Blue Waffle. Fair warning! :D
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That speedo is totally unacceptable...... |
Is the guy in the background (all the way on the left) naked?
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And who wears shoes when jumping a pool?
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Pretty sure that's Preston Lacy and that might be a stunt from Jackass 3. You can definitely see Wee Man in the background.
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The high-brow production would explain the two camera angles. |
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I bet you could do an "interesting" set of those with Superfund sites in the US SI |
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So, is it just me, or did the saxophone player and the bass violinist have a baby named Steve Zahn? |
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Wasn't this a setting in one of the COD games? |
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Yep. Pripyat appears in two MW4 maps, briefly in an MW3 flashback, and a level of MW2. |
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That's not by any chance the place from COD1 where you have to take and hold the abandoned Stalingrad apartment? If all the missions in COD1, that was the one that I will never forget. |
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