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mckerney 10-11-2016 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 3123053)
So the supporters don't understand how the Constitution and Congress works and how the laws are passed? Yep--great idea--vote in Trump, but vote out the people in Congress that you need to carry out the legislation that you want done (repeal ObamaCare, Supreme Court, tax reform, immigration, ect.).


All they need is one Senator on board and they'll be able to enact whatever they want.

SackAttack 10-11-2016 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 3123053)
So the supporters don't understand how the Constitution and Congress works and how the laws are passed? Yep--great idea--vote in Trump, but vote out the people in Congress that you need to carry out the legislation that you want done (repeal ObamaCare, Supreme Court, tax reform, immigration, ect.).


If they understood how Congress worked they wouldn't have been trying to burn it down for the last six years.

If they understood how the Constitution works - particularly the bit about checks and balances and how you can't run the government from just one branch - they wouldn't be going all Ouroboros on their own party in the first place.

digamma 10-11-2016 06:59 AM

This article just strikes me as an example of how half assed the Trump campaign is this fall, and given that, in some ways, it is miraculous the staying power he has had, but in some it is just downright scary.

The Cliff's notes: Russian media botched the interpretation of a WikiLeak e-mail from Clinton confidante Sidney Blumenthal. Trump picked up on the bad info and spread it at a rally. (In reality, all Blumenthal did here was forward an article written by Eichenwald.)

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-put...sputnik-508635

Subby 10-11-2016 10:08 AM

Talking shit about Trump just feels like piling on right now. This election is going to be a landslide.

mckerney 10-11-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123064)
Talking shit about Trump just feels like piling on right now. This election is going to be a landslide.


Like bringing up that Casey Anthony's lawyer is now representing the woman suing Trump for raping her when she was 13?





Oh boy...

cuervo72 10-11-2016 10:22 AM

Nope. Keep piling it on. Never can be sure.

Butter 10-11-2016 10:26 AM

Trumpo unchained?

ISiddiqui 10-11-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123064)
Talking shit about Trump just feels like piling on right now. This election is going to be a landslide.


Latest 538 projections have the election victory being an 84% chance for Clinton and 16% for Trump. Clinton has a 60%+ chance of winning in Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida (where it's over 70% chance). And there are just 4 weeks left for Trump to try to reverse this.

JonInMiddleGA 10-11-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3123071)
Latest 538 projections have the election victory being an 84% chance for Clinton and 16% for Trump. Clinton has a 60%+ chance of winning in Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida (where it's over 70% chance). And there are just 4 weeks left for Trump to try to reverse this.


It'll naturally reverse back toward the previous norm. Watch & see.

That may not win the election -- I've said it was turnout all along & I'm not changing that -- but the poll bounce doesn't feel like an indicator at all to me.

He's still within the Brexit error window, watch & see.

Subby 10-11-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3123068)


Oh boy...



ISiddiqui 10-11-2016 10:42 AM

This has been the trend line since September 26th (going more and more towards Clinton). I don't see a 'previous norm' for it to return to as well.

mckerney 10-11-2016 10:57 AM

@realDonaldTrump
Disloyal R's are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary. They come at you from all sides. They don't know how to win - I will teach them!


Crooked Hillary right now.

Easy Mac 10-11-2016 10:59 AM

Since Trump himself tweeted from an Android phone, can't we just chip in and buy him a note 7? He seems content to burn everything to the ground anyway.

mckerney 10-11-2016 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3123076)
Since Trump himself tweeted from an Android phone, can't we just chip in and buy him a note 7? He seems content to burn everything to the ground anyway.


Are you kidding, his tiny hands being able to hold onto a Note 7?

Galaxy 10-11-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 3123056)
If they understood how Congress worked they wouldn't have been trying to burn it down for the last six years.

If they understood how the Constitution works - particularly the bit about checks and balances and how you can't run the government from just one branch - they wouldn't be going all Ouroboros on their own party in the first place.


Oh, I know. I just find it funny and sad.

Subby 10-11-2016 11:07 AM



Bee 10-11-2016 11:18 AM

I wouldn't count this election in the bag yet for HRC. Trump supporters will come out to vote even if he's projected to lose, but the folks that are anti-Trump may stay home based on all the polls showing he is going to lose. Low turn out could really hurt her chances.

Galaxy 10-11-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 3123081)
I wouldn't count this election in the bag yet for HRC. Trump supporters will come out to vote even if he's projected to lose, but the folks that are anti-Trump may stay home based on all the polls showing he is going to lose. Low turn out could really hurt her chances.


I agree, this is going to be all about voter turn out.

Hillary also needs to pick up his support with the younger voters.

QuikSand 10-11-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3123020)
In at 18 this morning, can sell now at 21. Weird times.


So, sold off at 20/21, but then saw an opening in a proxy market (shares of "will next Pres be a woman - NO) and I'm back on at 19 there. I still feel like this smooths out some. Our system just doesn't put up with a runaway.

larrymcg421 10-11-2016 11:49 AM

If it comes to turnout, then Hillary is sure to win due to her superior ground game.

digamma 10-11-2016 11:50 AM

And the fact that her corrupt machine will rig the election. Dead voters, felon voters, probably some underage ones too.

Ben E Lou 10-11-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3123087)
And the fact that her corrupt machine will rig the election. Dead voters, felon voters, probably some underage ones too.

:withstupid:

Mizzou B-ball fan 10-11-2016 12:03 PM

Someone needs to tell Clinton's spokesperson (Brian Fallon) to stop picking fights with Wikileaks. Honestly, I don't see any way that Trump wins if Clinton and her crew just shut up and take the high road. Yet they continue to somehow find a way to drag themselves into the mud-slinging.

Just shut up already! You're going to win barring you doing something stupid!

AlexB 10-11-2016 12:04 PM

Hehe

https://www.facebook.com/HaveIGotNew...type=3&theater

larrymcg421 10-11-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3123087)
And the fact that her corrupt machine will rig the election. Dead voters, felon voters, probably some underage ones too.


How will she pull this off with all the Muslims now reporting suspicious activity?

Mizzou B-ball fan 10-11-2016 12:15 PM

Interesting. I find the concept amusing, but I have to think that if the roles were reversed, we'd have over-sensitive liberals flipping out about the concept of this game.

Save 20% on Mr.President! on Steam

Butter 10-11-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 3123081)
I wouldn't count this election in the bag yet for HRC. Trump supporters will come out to vote even if he's projected to lose, but the folks that are anti-Trump may stay home based on all the polls showing he is going to lose. Low turn out could really hurt her chances.


Of course it's not in the bag yet. But poor turnout for Hillary won't be the reason Trump wins. Some kind of news going against her changing voters minds will be.

Subby 10-11-2016 12:32 PM

Bob Kagan spittin' truth:
The cowardly GOP has engineered its own suicide - The Washington Post

mckerney 10-11-2016 01:09 PM

Now he's going after McCain again. Time to see how many House and Senate seats he can take with him.

I don't think the Clinton's would have been able to get him to do close to this much damage if he were their sleeper candidate.

Subby 10-11-2016 01:21 PM



Strong words from the PGIC. Strong, weird words. Strong, weird, confusing words.

RainMaker 10-11-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3123087)
And the fact that her corrupt machine will rig the election. Dead voters, felon voters, probably some underage ones too.


Why rig an election she's going to win handily?

mckerney 10-11-2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123105)


Strong words from the PGIC. Strong, weird words. Strong, weird, confusing words.


Trump's ghostwriter on Art of the Deal


Ben E Lou 10-11-2016 02:00 PM



larrymcg421 10-11-2016 02:06 PM

Republicans are hanging their hat on this LA Times/USC poll that still has Trump ahead by 2.

Galaxy 10-11-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3123086)
If it comes to turnout, then Hillary is sure to win due to her superior ground game.


A superior ground game won't overcome a highly flawed and disliked candidate.
If people are really scared of Trump, it will work. However, I know a lot of voters who are just in angst over both candidates, and don't see one better over another.

Galaxy 10-11-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123097)


The GOP is in a tough spot. They or the congressional members didn't pick Trump, the voters did. Do they piss of their base and risk losing long-term support (and seats)? Without the base, you have nothing. With the base, you dramatically limited your ability to win, and with each election cycle, that base becomes proportionally smaller in terms of votes and voting power. It also shows the GOP has been out-of-touch with who their base really is and wants. Either way, they're screwed.

NobodyHere 10-11-2016 02:45 PM


ISiddiqui 10-11-2016 02:51 PM

Trump just seems too fat to be a cokehead.

digamma 10-11-2016 02:55 PM

It's interesting that the drug question hasn't come up, given it was a focus for Clinton, Bush and to some extent Obama.

larrymcg421 10-11-2016 03:02 PM

Megyn Kelly had Huckabee on and he was comparing Trump to Captain Quint from Jaws and said Hillary was the shark from Jaws. Megyn had to remind him that the shark ate Quint.

CrescentMoonie 10-11-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 3123117)
The GOP is in a tough spot. They or the congressional members didn't pick Trump, the voters did. Do they piss of their base and risk losing long-term support (and seats)? Without the base, you have nothing. With the base, you dramatically limited your ability to win, and with each election cycle, that base becomes proportionally smaller in terms of votes and voting power. It also shows the GOP has been out-of-touch with who their base really is and wants. Either way, they're screwed.


Are Trump voters the GOP base? By the end of the second Super Tuesday, he had won 19 state primaries, but only 5 of those were closed. Prior to the roll he got on when the race was whittled down to just 3 candidates, his pull was coming from places where there was at least the possibility that those voting for him weren't standard GOP voters.

AENeuman 10-11-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3123106)
Why rig an election she's going to win handily?


Attachment 5994

:)

digamma 10-11-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3123106)
Why rig an election she's going to win handily?


Umm...it was a joke?

Or did you want me to say because she's a terrible corrupt person who can't help herself?

larrymcg421 10-11-2016 03:34 PM

Oooooof.


JPhillips 10-11-2016 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3123110)


Thanks for this. I really worry about the way my Chinese daughter might be viewed under a Trump presidency. It isn't a laughing matter.

SackAttack 10-11-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3123125)
Megyn Kelly had Huckabee on and he was comparing Trump to Captain Quint from Jaws and said Hillary was the shark from Jaws. Megyn had to remind him that the shark ate Quint.


:lol:

Thomkal 10-11-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123079)



Hell has not quite frozen over...yet:

Hell Freezes Over? Glenn Beck Says Electing Hillary Clinton Could Be A 'Moral, Ethical Choice’ | Huffington Post

BishopMVP 10-11-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3123130)
Oooooof.


Yeah, I'd say Carson's political career is over too, but he never had one. Like I said, he & Jill Stein are doing a great job proving that even elite educated medical doctors can completely lack common sense.

Btw, I have heard people use phrasing similar to what Trump used & I've been in locker rooms/sidelines around teenage boys, so I couldn't figure out what was off here until I realized that as much as they say crude & at times immature/misogynistic things it's almost all centered on "that girl's so hot" "i want to/you should bang her dude" etc. Where I've heard people talk like Trump on that tape isn't in locker rooms, it's at country clubs and business lunches/after hours networking. I suppose frat houses might also fit, but I always avoided that crowd (and they weren't big at UMass.)

mckerney 10-11-2016 05:52 PM

Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show 'authoritarian power' - CNNPolitics.com

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"Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we've had eight years of a president, he's an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we're slipping into anarchy," LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM.

So if I'm following LePage's logic correctly, we're slipping into anarchy because we have Obama who been ignoring congress doing what he wants, and as a result we need an authoritarian using their power to do what they want. Right.

I guess that's what I should expect from someone who has so far this year said that people of color are the enemy who should be shot at and bemoaned how they were coming into the state and getting young white girls pregnant.

BishopMVP 10-11-2016 06:30 PM

That's actually a tame media appearance by that nutcase. Maine's actually a pretty weird place. Everything from the NH border to about 30 min north of Portland (and maybe a pocket or two around Bar Harbor) is typical northeastern liberal, then the other 80% of the state by area is full of hicks with some French-Canadian inflections thrown in. They should just give people who own vacation property there full voting rights since we're probably paying half the real estate taxes anyways ;)

JPhillips 10-11-2016 06:37 PM


SirFozzie 10-11-2016 06:51 PM

Not to mention, LePage keeps getting elected only because two other people split the vote:

2010: (R) LePage 37.6%, (I) Cutler 35.9%, (D) Mitchell 18.8%
2014 (R) LePage 48.2%, (D) Michaud 43.4%, (I) Cutler 8.4%

BillJasper 10-11-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3123130)
Oooooof.



Stuff like this just makes it worse. Say your candidate fucked up badly, that you still think he's the best person for the job and try to move the conversation to the issues.

Galaxy 10-11-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3123126)
Are Trump voters the GOP base? By the end of the second Super Tuesday, he had won 19 state primaries, but only 5 of those were closed. Prior to the roll he got on when the race was whittled down to just 3 candidates, his pull was coming from places where there was at least the possibility that those voting for him weren't standard GOP voters.


So should the GOP adopt closed primaries from now on? Was it still an outsider year with Trump and Cruz leading the pack?

BishopMVP 10-11-2016 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 3123156)
Not to mention, LePage keeps getting elected only because two other people split the vote:

2010: (R) LePage 37.6%, (I) Cutler 35.9%, (D) Mitchell 18.8%
2014 (R) LePage 48.2%, (D) Michaud 43.4%, (I) Cutler 8.4%


2010 yes, but 48.2% is pretty standard in contested elections. No way to prove it, but I wouldn't be surprised if half or more of those who still voted for Cutler after he semi-withdrew in 2014 had no intention of voting for any establishment candidate, even if Michaud was much closer to their views than LePage.

CrescentMoonie 10-11-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 3123159)
So should the GOP adopt closed primaries from now on? Was it still an outsider year with Trump and Cruz leading the pack?


Maybe? Think about who the establishment guys were this year. Bush clearly didn't want it at all. Rubio was a robot. Kasich had no business being the last traditional GOP candidate. The huge field may have spread the vote thin amongst the typical options without cutting into the "outsiders" like Trump and Cruz. The turnout was also higher than usual, suggesting that Trump was drawing new people in. I can't say that for sure, but I don't know if I buy Trump as ever having been the choice of the base. It feels to me like it's more of a case of the base trying to stomach having Trump win the nomination than ever truly getting behind him.

mckerney 10-11-2016 11:47 PM

Trump told a rally in Florida tonight to vote on November 28th, I think his GOTV effort could use a little work.

larrymcg421 10-11-2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3123191)
Trump told a rally in Florida tonight to vote on November 28th, I think his GOTV effort could use a little work.


He also might want to rethink his ad buys for November.

Galaxy 10-12-2016 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 3123157)
Stuff like this just makes it worse. Say your candidate fucked up badly, that you still think he's the best person for the job and try to move the conversation to the issues.


It's scary how Carson was considered to be a world-class neurosurgeon. I have no doubt that he was, but dear lord.

SackAttack 10-12-2016 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 3123201)
It's scary how Carson was considered to be a world-class neurosurgeon. I have no doubt that he was, but dear lord.


"Ben, this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole in your head. Remember that?"

"That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me."

Kodos 10-12-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3123191)
Trump told a rally in Florida tonight to vote on November 28th, I think his GOTV effort could use a little work.


They should definitely go to vote on the 28th. That's perfect.

Mizzou B-ball fan 10-12-2016 10:46 AM




AlexB 10-12-2016 10:51 AM

Bugger, looks like women have been right all along. Men ARE idiots.

Ben E Lou 10-12-2016 11:01 AM

For some reason this is in my head...


Easy Mac 10-12-2016 11:06 AM

[hot take]It's no wonder the US has been on decline since 1920[/hot take]

digamma 10-12-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3123221)
[hot take]It's no wonder the US has been on decline since 1920[/hot take]


#MAGA

Subby 10-12-2016 11:25 AM

This is pretty powerful...



larrymcg421 10-12-2016 11:26 AM

A Reuters poll today has the Dems up 46-36 in the Generic Congressional Ballot.

digamma 10-12-2016 11:34 AM

Yeah, but it's the Congressmen in the other districts that are the problem.

CraigSca 10-12-2016 11:54 AM

Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla - End Womens Suffrage ( The Man Show segment) - YouTube

larrymcg421 10-12-2016 12:22 PM

Wow....

Utah Poll from Deseret News:

Clinton 26, Trump 26, McMullin 22, Johnson 14

ISiddiqui 10-12-2016 12:27 PM

Who the Hell is McMullin?

Ben E Lou 10-12-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3123229)
Who the Hell is McMullin?

Evan McMullin for President

Basically a conservative alternative to Trump. He's the odds-on favorite to get my vote at this point.

Issues - Evan McMullin for President

molson 10-12-2016 12:32 PM

McMullin is a former CIA operative who started his campaign just a few months ago, but has managed to get on the ballot in a handful of states. He's a Mormon, so Utah should be his best state. I didn't think he was well-known enough to be an actual spoiler there though. He seems pretty moderate, as in, pro-life and anti-gay marriage, but says Republicans should also move on from the gay marriage debate, and work to reduce unintended pregnancies and the need for abortions. He's also very pro-military.

digamma 10-12-2016 12:40 PM

Looks like he's on the ballot in 11 states: Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia.

mckerney 10-12-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3123231)
McMullin is a former CIA operative who started his campaign just a few months ago, but has managed to get on the ballot in a handful of states. He's a Mormon, so Utah should be his best state. I didn't think he was well-known enough to be an actual spoiler there though. He seems pretty moderate, as in, pro-life and anti-gay marriage, but says Republicans should also move on from the gay marriage debate, and work to reduce unintended pregnancies and the need for abortions. He's also very pro-military.


I've read the Mormon dream in Utah is that he wins the state, Hillary and Donald both fall short of 270 and the House elects McMullin.

molson 10-12-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3123233)
I've read the Mormon dream in Utah is that he wins the state, Hillary and Donald both fall short of 270 and the House elects McMullin.


That's either a Mormon dream or the plot of the next season of Homeland.

stevew 10-12-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3123229)
Who the Hell is McMullin?


Furthermore wtf is a Mindy Finn?

molson 10-12-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3123236)
Furthermore wtf is a Mindy Finn?


All I know is that she was born in the 80s.

bob 10-12-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3123234)
That's either a Mormon dream or the plot of the next season of Homeland.


See Veep

ISiddiqui 10-12-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3123233)
I've read the Mormon dream in Utah is that he wins the state, Hillary and Donald both fall short of 270 and the House elects McMullin.


Mormons are more delusional than I thought.

CrescentMoonie 10-12-2016 01:12 PM

A Mormon and a Jew walk into bar...and run for President?

flere-imsaho 10-12-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3123234)
That's either a Mormon dream or the plot of the next season of Homeland.


:D

nol 10-12-2016 01:15 PM

How one 19-year-old Illinois man is disrupting national polling averages

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Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, he’s weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent.

Alone, he has been enough to put Mr. Trump in double digits of support among black voters. He can improve Mr. Trump’s margin by 1 point in the survey, even though he is one of around 3,000 panelists.

He is also the reason Mrs. Clinton took the lead in the U.S.C./LAT poll for the first time in a month on Wednesday. The poll includes only the last seven days of respondents, and he hasn’t taken the poll since Oct. 4. Mrs. Clinton surged once he was out of the sample for the first time in several weeks.

NobodyHere 10-12-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3123240)
A Mormon and a Jew walk into bar...and run for President?


McMullin/Sanders 2016? I could vote for that.

flere-imsaho 10-12-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3123149)
That's actually a tame media appearance by that nutcase. Maine's actually a pretty weird place. Everything from the NH border to about 30 min north of Portland (and maybe a pocket or two around Bar Harbor) is typical northeastern liberal, then the other 80% of the state by area is full of hicks with some French-Canadian inflections thrown in. They should just give people who own vacation property there full voting rights since we're probably paying half the real estate taxes anyways ;)


From August:

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho (Post 3114953)
What Libertarian streak Maine may once have had (and I don't think it ever really did) pretty much doesn't exist anymore. Maine's basically two halves. The southern part of the state (first congressional district) is very liberal, 50% "urban" and is basically the reason Clinton leads by 10 points in the state overall.

The northern part of the state (second congressional district, 70% rural) is essentially Appalachia and buys in hard to Trump's rhetoric. He's ahead in that district and because Maine splits its electoral votes, he may get those: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Maine CD2: Trump vs. Clinton

Once upon a time there was a strong independent streak in the state that emphasized fiscal conservatism and tolerance on social issues (of the "it's none of my or your business" variety). The collapse of traditional mill, paper, and agricultural jobs in the 2nd district especially, combined with a rising opoid epidemic, however, have given rise to the kind of angry, populist movement now seen in Trump, but also seen in Governor Paul LePage.

Anyway, more explanation than was needed, but I grew up here, and moved back 3 years ago.


CrescentMoonie 10-12-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3123243)
McMullin/Sanders 2016? I could vote for that.


Apparently Finn is Jewish, at least from the bits of bio info online.

Thomkal 10-12-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3123229)
Who the Hell is McMullin?


tsk, tsk people, I mentioned him several pages ago :) He's the Mormon replacement for Mitt Romney-was able to get on the ballot in Utah and a few late registering states. Not surprised he's competetive in Utah.

Galaxy 10-12-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3123232)
Looks like he's on the ballot in 11 states: Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia.

The guy couldn't even properly put the right VP on the ballots.

Subby 10-12-2016 01:55 PM

"I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world. Nobody knows more about taxes."

Donald Trump Tax Plan Would Add to Debt and Hillary Clinton’s Wouldn’t, Study Finds

Subby 10-12-2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3123231)
He seems pretty moderate, as in, pro-life and anti-gay marriage, but says Republicans should also move on from the gay marriage debate, and work to reduce unintended pregnancies and the need for abortions. He's also very pro-military.

Shows how far right the GOP has gone when this is considered a moderate position.

cuervo72 10-12-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123252)
Shows how far right the GOP has gone when this is considered a moderate position.


You'd really think that "reduce unintended pregnancies and the need for abortions" would be a no-brainer, but no:

Colorado's Long-Lasting Birth Control Program For Teens May Not Last Long : It's All Politics : NPR

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When seed money from the Buffett foundation ran out this summer, Hickenlooper asked for state funding to continue the program. But Republican state lawmakers like Rep. Kathleen Conti said no. Conti complains that the long-acting birth control is too expensive and sends the wrong message to teenagers who should instead be taught to refrain from sex.

Pregnancies aren't the issue. As we see with the anti-gay stances, the goal is to legislate and control how people have sex.

But you know, less government and "freedom!" and all that bullshit.

Subby 10-12-2016 02:21 PM



Galaxy 10-12-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123251)
"I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world. Nobody knows more about taxes."

Donald Trump Tax Plan Would Add to Debt and Hillary Clinton’s Wouldn’t, Study Finds


Hillary's tax and spending plans will go no where, considering it's very likely that the GOP will maintain control of the House for at least the next six years.

nol 10-12-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123258)



That's her body double though. Think they just came up with one for the pneumonia thing?

Ryche 10-12-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123251)
"I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world. Nobody knows more about taxes."

Donald Trump Tax Plan Would Add to Debt and Hillary Clinton’s Wouldn’t, Study Finds


Well, his accountants probably know more...can we elect them instead?

Subby 10-12-2016 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nol (Post 3123262)
That's her body double though. Think they just came up with one for the pneumonia thing?

I don't want to start a rumor but I'm pretty sure that is a mannequin. Just look at the way it is standing. That's not real. Every time Rudy looked away one of her (LIKELY) gay interns would pick it up and move it a few more feet.

Chief Rum 10-12-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123270)
I don't want to start a rumor but I'm pretty sure that is a mannequin. Just look at the way it is standing. That's not real. Every time Rudy looked away one of her (LIKELY) gay interns would pick it up and move it a few more feet.


To be fair, if you shook the hand of a HRC mannequin and HRC herself, do you really think you could tell the difference?

Subby 10-12-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3123272)
To be fair, if you shook the hand of a HRC mannequin and HRC herself, do you really think you could tell the difference?

Pretty sure mannequins can't shake hands. TRY AND KEEP UP. :D

Chief Rum 10-12-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby (Post 3123274)
Pretty sure mannequins can't shake hands. TRY AND KEEP UP. :D


You just can't see the (LIKELY) gay intern behind her moving her hand.


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