You won't Thom you would create a tie.

Deadline

Or not quite yet.

I just went back and checked. My double vote ONLY would have counted last night. It does not apply tonight...
We have a tie.

Hey... I tried to help. Sorry I was in the way...

Not happy that the helps votes to hold elections were declared illegal by Thom...

So another duke. Eh?

Was it a duke or was just the tie breaking procedure?

Good...


Night...


Sweet...



Prince..... . . .

gg!

And then there were six...

holy crap, what a bloodbath.

And hey guys, under martial law remember? did you really think I was going to let you have an election?

So what do we think is the new count for what remains of each faction?

I told you guys :)

Well that was all very interesting. Can't believe that Britrock pulled that stunt with DanGarion. You're crazy Britty.

I'm going to have to go on believing that there's only one member of the Resistance and the Angel left. Anything else with just us six and we're screwed. That would have to mean that GoldenEagle killed Raven and then was killed by the last Resistance member. We hope. I guess we might be ok with one extra Truth Seeker.


This says conversion to me. The term used with Britrock is that he was a member of the Truth Seekers.

Things might have looked better if Shark hadn't no lynched. That's really, really counter-productive for the village.

So someone shot DanGarion who brutalled Shark then both teams got a night kill with the Resistance taking out GoldenEagle and the Truth Seekers nabbing Raven.

If the hypothesis that there's only one wolf left is correct that voting records are pretty useless. If it isn't correct then they're pretty useless as they're not going to help us. I shall probably look at them anyway as they will provide me with solace.

Day Seven

#2192 23:37 Thomkal votes Zinto (1)
#2267 13:08 Narcizo votes Crimson (1)
#2296 14:49 Suicane votes DanGarion (1)
#2317 15:13 Raven votes fontisian (1)
#2333 15:30 DanGarion votes DanGarion (2)
#2340 15:37 timmae votes DanGarion (3)
#2349 15:59 Shark votes Crimson (2)
#2365 16:37 timmae unvotes DanGarion (2)
#2367 16:40 timmae votes GoldenEagle (1)
#2374 16:57 saldana votes DanGarion (3)

#2391 17:38 Crimson votes Sharkn (1)
#2392 17:39 DanGarion unvotes DanGarion (2)
#2392 17:39 DanGarion votes Zinto (2)
#2402 17:52 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (2)
#2409 18:00 Shoveler votes GoldenEagle (3)
#2417 18:12 DanGarion unvotes Zinto (1)
#2417 18:12 DanGarion votes Crimson (3)
#2438 18:47 Fontisian votes DanGarion (3)
#2444 19:25 Grover votes GoldenEagle (4)
#2448 19:39 Autumn votes Crimson (4)
#2453 19:53 Ntndeacon votes GoldenEagle (5)
#2455 19:56 Chief Rum votes DanGarion (4)
#2458 20:06 JAG votes DanGarion (5)
#2459 20:10 Zinto votes Crimson (5)
#2480 20:56 Britrock votes Crimson (6)

#2487 21:16 Suicane unvotes DanGarion (4)
#2487 21:16 Suicane votes GoldenEagle (6)
#2501 21:40 Crimson unvotes Sharkn (0)
#2501 21:40 Crimson votes DanGarion (5)
#2513 21:47 GoldenEagle votes Crimson (7)
#2528 20:01 Crimson unvotes DanGarion (4)
#2528 20:01 Crimson votes GoldenEagle (7)
#2554 20:31 Thomkal unvotes Zinto (0)
#2554 20:31 Thomkal votes GoldenEagle (8)
#2563 20:36 Britrock unvotes Crimson (6)
#2563 20:36 Britrock votes GoldenEagle (9)
#2565 20:37 Saldana unvotes DanGarion (5)
#2563 20:37 Saldana votes GoldenEagle (10)

Final Vote

GoldenEagle 10 - timmae (2367), The Jackal (2402), Shoveler (2409), Grover (2444), ntndeacon (2453), Suicane75 (2487), CrimsonFox (2528), Thomkal (2554), britrock88 (2563), saldana (2565)
CrimsonFox 5 - Narcizo (2267), sharkn20 (2349), DanGarion (2417), Autumn (2448), Zinto (2459), GoldenEagle (2513)
DanGarion 3 - fontisian (2438), Chief Rum (2455), JAG (2458)
fontisian 1 - Raven (2317)

Of course we don't know that Golden was a Truth Seeker at this stage but otherwise that's a lot of red right there.

Day Eight

#2628 06:21 Narcizo votes Jackal (1)
#2655 10:42 Autumn votes Shoveler (1)
#2698 14:15 Crimson votes Shark (1)
#2699 14:25 Shark votes Crimson (1)
#2718 15:35 Timmae votes Saldana (1)
#2746 17:17 Britrock votes Saldana (2)
#2760 18:00 Golden votes Shark (2)
#2770 19:32 Saldana votes DanGarion (x)
#2771 19:43 Grover votes Saldana (3)

#2773 19:47 Suicane votes DanGarion (1)
#2774 19:47 Jackal votes DanGarion (2)
#2775 19:49 Shoveler votes Saldana (4)
#2777 19:52 Ntndeacon votes DanGarion (3)
#2780 19:54 Zinto votes Shark (3)
#2788 20:02 DanGarion votes Saldana (5)
#2790 20:06 Raven votes DanGarion (4)

#2798 21:46 Thomkal votes Saldana (6)
#2801 20:15 Font votes Saldana (7)
#2817 22:56 Brit unvotes Saldana (6)
#2817 22:56 Brit votes DanGarion (5)
#2818 22:57 Grover unvotes Saldana (5)
#2818 22:57 Grover votes DanGarion (6)
#2821 23:00 Britrock unvotes DanGarion (5)
#2821 23:00 Britrock votes Saldana (6)

saldana 6 - timmae (2717), britrock88 (2820), Shoveler (2775), DanGarion (2788), Thomkal (2798), fontisian (2801)
DanGarion 5 - Suicane75 (2773), The Jackal (2774), ntndeacon (2777), Raven (2790), Grover (2818)
Sharkn20 3 - CrimsonFox (2698), GoldenEagle (2760), Zinto (2780)
The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (2628)
Shoveler 1 - Autumn (2655)
CrimsonFox 1 - Sharkn20 (2699)

Day Nine

#2842 00:42 Suicane votes Britrock (1)
#2891 15:09 timmae votes DanGarion (1)
#2896 18:08 Shark votes Shoveler (1)
#2902 18:42 Ntn votes DanGarion (2)
#2928 04:03 Narcizo votes Jackal (1)
#2941 09:02 Narcizo unvotes Jackal (0)
#2941 09:02 Narcizo votes Shark (1)
#2945 09:15 Grover votes Golden (1)
#2952 10:47 Jackal votes Shark (2)

#2954 10:54 Crimson votes DanGarion (3)
#2995 11:55 Grover unvotes Golden (0)
#3019 12:26 Crimson unvotes DanGarion (2)
#3074 16:10 Shoveler votes Crimson (1)
#3086 16:31 Shark unvotes Shoveler (0)
#3086 16:31 Shark votes DanGarion (3)
#3106 16:49 Grover votes Shark (3)
#3117 17:33 Thomkal votes Crimson (2)
#3125 18:12 NTN unvotes DanGarion (2)
#3125 18:12 NTN votes Shark (4)

#3128 18:19 Shark unvotes DanGarion (1)
#3128 18:19 Shark votes Crimson (3)
#3136 18:46 Crimson votes Shark (5)
#3140 19:44 Raven votes Zinto (1)
#3147 20:20 Zinto votes Crimson (4)
#3156 20:34 timmae unvotes DanGarion (0)
#3136 20:34 timmae votes Crimson (5)
#3167 20:48 Suicane votes Crimson (6)
#3177 21:05 Raven unvotes Zinto (0)
#3187 21:25 DanGarion votes Crimson (7)


CrimsonFox 8 - Shoveler (3074), Thomkal (3117), Sharkn20 (3128), Zinto (3147), timmae (3156), Suicane75 (3167), DanGarion (3187)
Sharkn20 7 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952), Grover (3106), ntndeacon (3125), CrimsonFox (3136)

Ok let's say that there's two wolf teams with a cunning, a brutal and a duke. That would mean that the only wolf left is the Resistance duke. Would a wolf duke a lynch that looked set to kill two villagers? It might actually be the right move but I would have thought that the wolf would hold onto the vote to use it to save themselves if they get to end stage. My guess is that DanGarion believed that Shark was the Resistance duke and that's why he took him out. I don't really see any way that we can't

Vote Zinto

To explain in case it wasn't clear my guess is that Zinto is the Resistance duke and was forced to use the duke to save himself.

I'd also be willing to vote Thomkal in the hope that that would give the Resistance their victory condition and they/he would effectively be converted to village. Basically because I feel that the colony has been sacrificed on the altar of Thomkal's own personal ambitions and we've just gone along with it like sheep to the slaughter.

OK finding the Angel.

I suggest we all reveal everything about our background to try and pin this down. I think we all have a reason for leaving the Earth - but the Angel won't have provided one other than the fact that he's a pyscopathic whack-job.

I was a chemist who was accused of drug dealing. I wasn't doing anything as tawdry as dealing drugs. I prefer to think of myself as a pharmaceutical artist. Unfortunately the government feels it appropriate to make my products illegal while allowing cigarettes and alcohol despite them being far more dangerous than my creations. Crimson has confirmed that this is my background so I think that is a pretty good indicator that I'm not the Angel.

I'm going to try to find Crimson's posts were he revealed backgrounds and hope that he had scanned more people who are still alive.

Unfortunately for me given my injuries I'm leaning towards NTN being the Angel. A lot of the others have pretty clear objectives which you wouldn't expect of the Angel. We have no idea why NTN came here, his whole story has been somewhat vague while most of the rest of you have fleshed-out stories. Obviously you might have committed to that role early on but I'm thinking that the Angel is more likely to try and blend into the background rather than committing to a clear story straightaway. The other main candidate would be Zinto but as I think he's Resistance I'm going to assume that he's not the Angel.

8) ntndeacon - EMT, "better than most other doctors"
9) Thomkal - meglomanic ex-army general
11) Grover - space engineer extraordinaire
18) Shoveler - Ex-Mafia hitman turned
19) Zinto - CEO - have we heard anything else?
20) Narcizo - Pharmaceutical Artist.

I can't find Crimson's post because he posts too damned much and doesn't highlight the information in any way. I don't think he gave any information on anyone other than me though.

Yeah so there's not a great deal of help there then. They are Autumn, Suicane, timmae, Shark, Danny and myself respectively.

Ok so I worry that yesterday's result was the result of a tie-breaker rather than a duke. I guess there's no real way of knowing but the colour text does seem pretty similar. It also suggests that the result of the tie-breaker was going to be that both would be lynched and then someone convinced us to lynch someone else - as happened with GoldenEagle and font.

In the end there's no real way of knowing but I'm down on other viable candidates so I think that Zinto is the way to go.

Is there a potential thought that deacon wanted be the top medic, so he helped take out the other two?

Narc gets a pass today from me. If he is either the resistance or AoM he is hurt and can't perform any actions. He was hurt in what was probably an AoM attack, so he's on the bottom of my list of potential suspects in that department. I don't think a vote for Narc today helps out the colony because of his health status, unless there is something here that I am missing.

Thomkal is neither the AoM or in the resistance. I am drawing that conclusion based on two facts, he was hurt during an AoM attack when he should not have had actions, and it makes no damn sense that he would be resistance. If he turns out to be resistance then I take the blame for overlooking him, again, it doesn't make sense so I don't see that as a possibility.

I am neither resistance or the AoM. I can't offer proof unfortunately other than I have the ability to hunt the AoM.

So that leaves us with Grover, NTN, and Zinto.

The clues we have had about the AoM are that the person is a psychopath and a coward. Yesterday I presented NTN as a possibility but as Zinto pointed out it is possible, but he did confess to giving timmae the injection. So I'm not certain here.

I believe Grover mentioned he spent two years in the ISS. That makes me think he fits the profile of someone who may have suffered a serious mental breakdown while living in a tube for two years.

We don't know enough about zinto's background and he needs to fill in the holes today. He's a CEO and..... If he wants to avoid my vote today I need to know the rest of his background.

Back to Narc, I don't think it is in our best interest to rush to heal him completely. If he is either one of the two baddies our best bet is to keep him stabilized but not bring him back a condition where he can make night actions. Therefore I don't think we should have NTN on Narc tonight.

This is my thinking too. I voted for him yesterday and am willing to do so again.

Vote: Grover

I think you feel right at home inside a small cramped furnace after spending two years in the ISS.

I think you're suffering from a little Space Madness. I am not the person you are looking for.

Your jedi mind trick will not work on me.

vote Zinto

We keep putting him off and on the backburner. We tried to lynch him last night, but it was a draw and Jackal died again. We can't let this happen again before we're out of colonists. Doesn't anybody else find it odd that he keeps escaping these votes?

I am going to get meta and say that based on the timing of Narcizo's death and who was online the Angel is more than likely Grover or Shoveler. Based on Shoveler's role I doubt it is him.

Vote Grover

I posted on day zero that I was retired. The reason I retired is because there were rumors of insider trading.

Ah fantastic. So leaving my browser open at work all day automatically makes me guilty.

Sound reasoning.

You posted right before Narcizo was killed.

I guess my post wasn't clear. I meant who had posted right before Narc was killed.

And Shoveler posted 13 minutes previous to my last post. He could be equally guilty.

I guess I just don't see the stab in the dark reasoning here.

I mean, saying you voted for me because I voted for you would make a whole lot more sense to me. But hey, I'm not about to go off the rails Fox style here.

It isn't a stab in the dark. More than likely the murderer has to PM Eagle with his move to kill the injured person. You were online posting right before Narcizo was killed.

And there is a good reason I am not voting for Shoveler. He has a role designed to root out the killer. He is new and I doubt he made a fake role reveal like that.

I'm new too, where's my get out of jail free card?

Ha ha.

Also, it was a BMS, it could have been sent in at any time, could it not?

I don't just vote people because they vote for me. It is not helpful to the colony to just vote for someone because they voted for you. I think you are the Angel. I wouldn't vote for you unless I thought you were a baddie.

It isn't a get out of jail free card. It is a "I don't see a newbie making a fake role for himself while also going out and beating people to prove it"

And yes it could have. But I don't think EF just let's a move like that sit in his inbox all day and night. It just isn't how I see the game run.

Once again it is meta but it makes sense.

I do have to sleep...

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Okay then, shall we make it a bit more interesting? First off though you may be wondering why I don't have a new policeman today. You see I scanned someone the night before and found out he was a loyal colonist, and this time I kept it completely quiet. Didn't look like he was going to be a target for lynching/killing, I knew all day that the elections vote was not going to pass...yeah I'm sitting pretty here I'm thinking...

Then the tie vote with my vote ending up on the guy who ended up exposing and killing Dangarion, who was next on my recruit for police list (great job there shark by the way)...then the tie vote ends up being a random vote...on The Jackal-who I was appointing to the police force...I can still hear the manical laughter coming from the Greater Philliy area... :)

But one potentially good thing came out of last night, my scan target survived last night's bloodbath...and is a colonist too...yes my political adversary Grover scanned as a colonist as well! So now I hold out my hand in peace to Grover and ask that we work together. This is likely the last day of the game, and since I'm a colonist as well, we must work together, as allies, even if we don't get along...or we die.

Frowning at Zinto and Shoveler who have already cast votes for my new ally, I must respond in kind.

vote zinto

everything screamed at me to vote you out yesterday, but I allowed myself to listen to you...just like it did when it screamed at me not to trust font.

Thomkal, I accept your olive branch.

You and your olive branch can be cremated together in the furnace.

No need to be so hostile, Shoveler. I want what's best for the colony. I want to find the wolf. I want to find the AoM. I want us to survive and be successful.

A vote for me does not help this colony be successful.

Okay my quick thoughts on the remaiining players:

1-Grover-scanned as colonist-having to trust him despite his trying to remove me from office yesterday. Possible if he is AoM or cunning that the scan would not work correctly on him....I will likely have a mental breakdown if this is the case.

2-Shoveler-I've had a chat with Shoveler since I made him second in command. Has not interrogated or otherwise hurt me to the best of my knowledge. After "Hell weekend" where my entire remaining police force were found to have been working against me (at least they were killed), I laid an ultamatum on him-I was tired of being deceived by people I thought were allies-If he was doing the same, he just needed to stop chatting with me. To my surprise he opened up and told me about this "Angel of Mercy" and that he needed to find him to win. He did not come out and say that he was a colonist (correct me if I'm wrong,) but that we were both "good". We've tentatively been discussing strategy and who might be the Angel of Death ever since, both not quite sure they can really trust the other.

But as the numbers get smaller and smaller, the more the chance becomes he is either actually the AoM or working against me in the long run even if we both have the shared goal of removing the AoM from the game. Like Zinto I find it hard to believe that a first time player, even as good as those players have been in this game, could successful pull off something this complex and detailed the first time playing it. If he is that good, well then tip of my hat to him while I reach through his computer screen to slap his face :) (Shoveler I will answer your PM's after I get back from lunch and errands)

3. Zinto-has been my most vocal critic since I took office-got thrown into jail for it even, Last few days he's making it sound like he's a colonist-but has never pleaded his case or try to make amends...instead he's called me a horrible leader and the like-yet I still wanted to give him a chance with the vote last night, not anymore.

4-ntn-Healed me when the psychopath AoM-probably couldn't have resisted killing me, but then injected timmae with a drug that killed him during shoveler's interrogation of him, if we believe shoveler's story about this. His medical background fits in well with a psychopath who named himself "angel of mercy" Shoveler advanced a similar theory to me which I rejected partially because he did heal me.

away for a bit now, so don't wait for immediate answers

:D

I'm back....and apparently you all decided to go out for lunch :)

Thank you, I think we have to go for the resistance first as it seems to me they are getting multiple kills each round now while the Angel of Mercy just the one. What do you think?

I agree. The AoM rarely strikes in back-to-back nights. I think if we can knock off the rest of the resistance it gives us a huge chance to narrow down the AoM and take them out next.

Lynching the Resistance member should be paramount.

I suppose we need to discuss actions in case the game continues, of course the heal Narcizo option no longer applies. :( I will be scanning most likely though you've probably guessed that.

I've already voted to explore the landing site.

See we can agree on something!

That could be dangerous if one of our fellow "colonists" join you so watch for that.

This is very true.

unvote explore landing site

my background has been said several times. I was the victim of identity theft. That was the reason that I wanted to get away from earth.

People have said that, yes. Of course they are incorrect.

I think the Angel of Mercy killings have all been consistent. I do not remember another member of the colony being drugged. (feel free to correct this if I am mistaken) I thought they have always been a physical act. Like Narczio's smothering.

Thom why would I kiss your butt? It wouldn't make me any more or less a colonist. It doesn't make sense for colonists to always agree with you.

I am not moving off Grover. He had no reasons to leave Earth. No scandal. Nothing. When you guys vote me into cremation the village will lose. At least you give us a chance by eliminating the Angel today.

And of course Grover accepts your olive branch. Why wouldn't he? He would be lynched if he didn't. Nothing to lose now by accepting your offer.

I am not the Angel of Mercy, however my main goal was to become leader of the colony. I quickly fell behind to a number of other candidates before I got in on the posting, so I went for engineering instead because of a strong background. This is why I was trying to hold new elections. I wanted to satisfy my own ambitions within the colony as a colonist.

So here is why I don't buy that you wanted to be the leader because it was your goal or that you didn't have other motives when trying to become leader. Everyone who wanted to be the leader had high social skills to start with. The only person who wouldn't have is you.

Ok, right now , I am thinking Grover and Zinto are both bad. One as the resistance and one as the AoM. Shoveler, did you check Thomkal to see if he was AoM?
Because I am making the assumption that Thomkal's searches are solely for the resistance(possibly would have included the other group, but iam assuming they are gone) and your searches are solely for the Angel.

I never interrogated Thomkal. There was an AoM attack after he was wounded in an attack with font. I am using my understanding of the game mechanics since he was not allowed an action, and therefore could not be the AoM.

Thanks, Shoveler.

Great. I am going to be voted out by the likely Angel and the only doctor who wasn't night killed.

No but neither does never agreeing with them, calling him a horrible leader either. You have made zero attempt to work with me.

I haven't said anything about your leadership since the first day you were the leader.

Actually my searches are for: to find the Angel, which I have had horrible luck with 2) to find my fellow loyal colonists which I did with both jackal and grover.

But of course why wouldn't the wolves knowing that they are forming a resistance against you not totally fall in line with your rule?

That is incorrect, but I don't think its important enough at this point in the game to go back and find.

You can click on my name and try to look at my posts. I listed all the posts in which I said anything about your leadership. But, yeah it is end game. It shouldn't be important to find out if a reason you are voting for someone is important or not.

Thomkal, you are 100% certain your scans will detect the AoM?

That should end with right or not. Not important or not.

or do you have to specify with each scan?

No I don't need to specify

Well I don't know what else there is to say. It is end game if you get this vote wrong and you are getting it wrong. Well played Angel and last Resistance member.

Well Zinto.. it's been a pleasure.. I will always remember the good times we had on Mars together.

Vote: Zinto

May the luck of the gods work in my favor for a change please...