CR, Narc. I'm about to give you every single thing I've asked of cronin over the past day. You'll want to stick around.

True, but surely SOMEONE would notice. I mean, deaths are an easy thing to track.

Thanks ;-) I haven't played before, but I would bet that would be the first time anybody's ever become an heir in werewolf!

This is actually going to be fun to post. First, I got the response from cronin at 7:42pm yesterday that I got the assassin. That's all it said.

Quoting myself from my own PM:
Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast
Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Can I use him while I'm in jail?

More coming.

I have stated the case against path before, so he's probably getting annoyed with it. :)

Basically, it was the combination of path being in the original five possible for the sword killer hire on Day One (he says he bid on the priest, and we went back and confirmed he announced that at the time, to be fair), and then being one of the six who could have been lying about Balbus Senna being stolen from Ironhead at the time when we had my plan in most effect. He was the only one in both groups.

There has also been the UTR factors that others have mentioned (I don't put as much weight into that), and path himself ponied up to that, to being less active than usual. And then he's been among our wealthiest (not top tier, but generally higher elite), and we have been suspecting that rich Tarqs have contributed to the confusion we have been seeing in the bidding process.

I thnik that's it, but I'll admit I haven't gone back and scanned a whole lot of posts on his guilt or innocence.

The answer from cronin: Yes, I can use the sword killer while in jail.

It seems to me we have no hard evidence of anything in this game. No clear role reveals, or undisputed scans. Unfortunately we have to go by patterns, implications and conjecture. Obviously when we do the target's going to be pissed, or act pissed if they're a traitor, so what can we do?

I'm going to bid on a bodyguard today, I'll put that out there. We don't seem to be able to stop them from getting a swordsman, but I'm hoping we can catch them now that the targets are much fewer.

And Chief, I agree, my energy for analysis has definitely waned. Especially when our power went out this morning and i lost my last batch of data on the game. I've tried looking at the service bid history and haven't learned anything useful. It also seems with our lower numbers we've lost a lot of the active players who helped spur all that analysis. Thanks Narcizo for keeping up with it. I'll try to get the time to pitch in too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast get the skinny on what I can do lawyer wise? Obviously, I want to hire Narc to defend me, or I want to hire myself to defend me. Unless, of course, I gain the benefits of the lawyer. Just gimme the options I have, if you don't mind. If I were a peasant, I'd know full well my options. But given my position, I have no idea what I can do/get away with.

I was then told by cronin I that since I'm in jail I can't bid on anyone. I guess I should have done that before I went. He reminded me I have the assassin and I am able to use him to kill somebody.

Then taking a break is probably a good call.

Actually, path, I think I'm done after this game.

Thanks Chief, I remembered that. I just wondered if anyone else had more. Pass arrested him, I believe, but maybe did so for as many reasons as he arrested me.

Sorry, Ardentus but as far as i can see we have to either continue having this same discussion for hte next ten days, or go ahead and execute you. We don't seem able to do much else.

VOTE TO EXECUTE ARDENTUS ENTHUSIASTUS

So, here's what I've thought about with the sword kill.

Obviously a revenge kill of Narcizo would be sweet.

I thought about taking out CR for putting me up.

I've thought about using the sword kill on myself so Narcizo wouldn't know if I was good or not in the end. I don't know how that would end up, though. I also decided that would actually benefit the wolves. And I hate the wolves.

I'm pretty sure I won't use the sword killer on either CR or Narc. I'm about 90% on that. I'm not sure who I would use it on, and I'm open to suggestions.

It's a good point by ardent, but I don't know that it eliminates the possibility. That's the sort of second level thinking most of us don't go to. Not saying ardent wouldn't think that far ahead, or not see the possibility (this is were he int he hypothetical he puts out in there), but I'm not sure he would think it enough for peopel to strongly suspect him. At the time, it was a pretty well held consensus that the poisoning was the wolves' automatic kill. If I were in his positon, I'm not sure I would have considered that logical psosibility to be a serious threat in my future potential prosecutions.

So I wouldn't clear ardent of this possibility on that, but it stands him better than he was.

I'm removing you from my will. :)

Unvote to execute Path.
Vote to execute myself.

By the way, I did respond to cronin's last PM if there was any benefit to me being the lawyer again, since he didn't answer that part.

I also asked if there's any way to pass on my wealth. Seems like a lawyer could/would do that.

Well, I'm not annoyed with it in an Ardent sort of way, but yeah, it's always old to defend yourself this late when nobody has bothered to scan you or really come up with any reason except a day 1 event.

And I'm sure not rich any more......haven't been the past couple days thanks to all the lawsuits. But being in jail it's not like I can really bid anyway.

I guess I could try to kill Path, and maybe that would muck up the trial...but I certainly won't do that.

lol...actually we had a mafia heir in the Big City game. We eventually get around to doing everything. ;)

Personally I think that's too bad, but the reasons are certainly evident. I hope you come back at some point.

I really wish I could have played in that big city game. That looked and sounded like a 1000 x of fun.

Who knows? Nothing lasts forever, but I may never be a fan of Narcizo again.:(

I'd love to hear from Narc and CR, though, about what I've talked about with cronin over the past 19 hours.

Thanks for putting up the information from your PMs to st. cronin, although, to be honest, I'm not sure there's anything there we didn't know. We knew you had the use of the sword killer, and that you couldn't bid. And of course with the sword killer, that measn you don't have a lawyer (although that is odd that you can't defend yourself, or so it would suggest). Unless there is something else there, you were driving at. I can get dense at times and miss things (I'm no AlanT).

As for who to use the sword killer. I have put up one suggestion. I think it's fairly obvious.

I really don't think it matters what I say.

Have at it. It's never worried you before. Seriously. Have a take.

Well, frankly Ardent, I'd be happy for you to use that sword on Anxiety, but that's just me. We can't seem to execute him, so it may be the only way.

I'd like to get past this day so we can start looking at other things. I'm going to look through my notes and see what other suspects I can come up with.

Duly noted, I'll go back to look through your posts.

Nevermind, Autumn just reminded me of your earlier post, CR.

Too easy. Anxiety will get the sword unless, of course, Narcizo objects.

Maybe I spoke too soon. I don't want people to plan around that. I rescind that last statement. I'll continue to leave it in the air.

Nightfall.

Not sure this helps, but I'll give it a shot.

I'm going to jail Anxiety unless someone gives me a good reason not to.

Well, Tyrith, I could think of one. I will likely have him killed by the sword.

Anybody who self votes gets an auto vote from me, period, no matter the game state.

unvote path
vote AE

I figured as much. There will be nothing held against you in this regard.

This may be the only WW game where the people managed to kill the enitre circle of trust that was getting established.

True. Too true.

Maybe I'll just go good ol' random.org on the sword kill.

Obviously, I hope you don't do that, although I suppose it's not much worse than how we've done so far. If Anxiety is killed then we can arrest some new suspects and get past this impasse. If he gets bodyguarded or you get sex slaved (there's a new verb), then we'll have a lead on a bad guy.

Tyrus, let me know for sure what you're doing with an arrest, I don't want to both end up arresting the same guy.

I thought there was another about five or six big games back where everyone kept offing a particular CoT that was trying to form........now I'll have to go back and check at some point.

I doubt I get sex slaved in jail. I mean, that would be tres cool, but it probably can't happen.

I just don't want to commit to killing Anxiety, or for that matter Narc, if someone is just going to go out there and guard him.

I just thought of something weird. The duke role kept both guys from being executed, or so we're led to believe. How the heck was I supposed to know that, or anyone for that matter?

How cool would THAT be? Though I just flashed back to Pulp Fiction and maybe I should specify that it depends on who is the slaver....... :eek:

I know I did that the last time I was a bad guy, or at least I tried to do that. That was about this time last year, actually. If you look back, I haven't been a wolf since probably March of last year.

I thought it was awfully late in the game for a duke move. I was confused more than anything else by it -- plus the fact that nobody has fessed up to it.
Lots of strangeness there.

I still haven't seen more than 2 minutes of that movie. I keep wanting to watch it, but never seem to catch it while it's on.

Well yeah, if you're bad I guess it's exactly what you'd like to do. That was it -- it was the superheroes game and I WAS bad. Never got in the CoT but spent a lot of time arguing that people were being put in for bad reasons.

That's a lot easier when you know that there are wolves in there. :)

Ving Rhames is sex slaved by a psychotic hillbilly type. Not good.

Tyrith, can you put in a conditional order to arrest Anxiety, but someone else if Anxiety is dead? I don't remember what kind of conditional orders you can put in. I just don't think we should rely on the sword kill, and not bother with him.

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

Sounds like that Kentucky hillbilly movie. The name escapes me right now. Deliverance. I got it. I rule.

Good point.

Not that I'm saying you can do that -- for all I know, such an order would be rejected outright.

good question for St. Cronin. I know you can have a conditional rearrest, but not sure about one dependent on someone staying alive.

If the wolves somehow hired narcizo to defend me or prosecute path, I'll laugh.

It would mean the wolves are dragging me through this game kicking and screaming.

I'll try the conditional order, doubt it will work though. Otherwise the order is for Anxiety.

Full PM box. Damn. Foiled.

Not going to be up with you morning folk tomorrow so I am going to go ahead and

TOSS ARDENT OFF THE ROCK

Might be bad. Might be good. At this point I don't think anyone but the wolves have a clue in hell what is really going on.

One time when I was doing temp work for a company the owner of the company had to help doing some mind numbing clerical work. Someone asked him if he was enjoying himself. He simply answered, "I would rather be chewing glass right now." I think that sums up the village experience over the past couple of days. I'd rather be chewing glass right now.

Did not take place in Kentucky.

I think the wolves know. Ardent has seemed to play a good game. That would indicate his being a wolf to me, since I think he plays his best games as a wolf. He's been alive an awfully long time.

Vote Ardent

I should note I only skimmed much of today. It does not seem like much has happened though.

For clarification, filmed in South Carolina and Georgia, and supposedly takes place in Georgia.

Ok so there's an obvious chance that I'll be dead tomorrow. To be honest I think I'll welcome it. I think this game has gone on a bit too long. Here's people I suspect. In order.

1) Anxiety. Obviously. If we execute Ardent and Ardent offs me then we won't get a read on Ardent or myself. So no matter what, we/you have to execute Anxiety tomorrow.
2) Path. Still. I think there's something inconsistent there that needs explaining.
3) Grammaticus. His sudden surge to wealth, a lá Ardent is just too suspicious.
4) Passa.

People I fully trust.
No-one. Not even myself at this stage.

People I trust
Chief Rum
Autumn

That's all.

VOTE EXECUTE PATH

I said I would throw the other one off the rock if ardent used his assassin well. Here's to hoping he does. I guess we'll see tomorrow.

Saying you are going to use the sword kill on anyone in public is pretty much useless. I'd have to assume that there is a very good chance the tarqs have control of at least one if not both of the body guards.

At this point, I'm like that guy in 'Real Genius'.. you know, the one that has been studying then just stands up and starts screaming and runs out the door.

VOTE AE EXECUTE

Kentucky, Georgia. They're both the same. Neither are bonafide.;)

Man. I got up just to see what cronin was going to say about the will stuff, and he's not awake. Dang. It.

Good morning, fellas. Anyone feel a little nervous? Say hello to my little friend. :)

Two good things are going to come out of this.

1. I will be out of the game.
2. I will be taking someone with me.


Life is grand.

I hear the chariot a comin´it´s rolling round the bendand I ain´t seen the sunshine since I don´t know when,I´m stuck in a Roman prison, and time keeps draggin´ onbut that chariot keeps a rollin´ on down to Sicily..When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son,always be a good boy, don´t ever play with swords.But I had CW killed just to watch him dieWhen I hear that chariot coming, I hang my head and cry..
I bet there´s rich folks rolling in a fancy horse buggy
they´re probably drinkin´ coffee and smoking big cigars.Well I know I had it coming, I know I can´t be freebut those people keep a movin´and that´s what tortures me...Well if they´d free me from this prison,if that horse and chariot were mineI bet I´d move just a little further down the linefar from this Roman prison, that's where I want to stayand I´d be from from those Tarqs, yes so far away.....

Well, that certainly didn't format well. At all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0DnfS7dg9g

Hmmph. Friggin embed players.

About time you woke up to kill me. I was running out of songs.

Aloha means goodbye.

Before I roll out of this game, I'd like to make it public I hated being in this position all game. It was a bit BS, cronin. I was disappointed in being involved in scans or whatever and not knowing.

That's BS. If I'm involved in a scan, then I should know that I'm doing it. If you want to make it where the person hiring me was anonymous, fine. But I should know what I'm doing with my afternoons.

I was pretty disappointed in not knowing what those "secret" powers or whatever they were called that the lawyers had.

Overall, this game really kind of sucked it the last few days.

Additionally, if I do somehow make it through this day, I will not post again. Not what I've found out, not that I'm angry with whoever. Not votes for consul. Nothing. Nada. Noodle.

Essentially, I'm just in this for the hat.

The hat, of course, is the only reason cronin got me into this retarded game in the first place.

Sorry C, I know you worked hard on it. Next time either make me a wolf or don't give me a role. K, thx.

As an attorney, I'm placing a lien on both st.cronin's username and this game until I am paid the four hats I am owed.

With that. This game is over. Good guys win.

"Vengeance is mine," sayeth AE.

The results of today's lawsuits:

Gram sues

Gram sues Anxietus
Gram sues Barkeepus
Gram sues Tyrithus
Gram sues Pathus
Gram sues Passus
Gram sues Ironus Headus
Gram sues Mustangus
Ardent sues Anxiety
Ardent sues Autumn
Ardent sues Barkeep
Ardent sues Chief Rum
Ardent sues Grammaticus
Ardent sues Ironhead
Ardent sues Mustang
Ardent sues Narcizo
Ardent sues Passacaglia
Ardent sues path12
Ardent sues Tyrith
Tyrith sues Mustang
Tyrith sues Path12
Tyrith sues Gramm

Nice to see I got a few parting shots in there. Too bad Narc won against me, though.

I'm assuming I won't get any of those. :)

The following are the recorded votes in the Treason trial:
2 - path12 - ardent (3222), Chief Rum (3363)
10 - ardent - path12 (3214), Narcizo (3233), Tyrith (3267), Gramm (3271), Autumn (3313), Anxiety (3336), Passacaglia (3350), Ironhead (3358), Barkeep (3360), Mustang (3364)

Ardentus is escorted to the Tarpeian Rock, takes a running headstart, and gleefully leaps to his doom.

Woohoo!!!

Except, I unvoted path and voted myself.

The following Senator has been murdered:

Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus, by sword

The following Senators are in jail:

Abeus Anxietus
Mustangus Sallus

The next post by cronin is the one I'm looking forward to.

Tada.

Cronin can you clear your box?

These are the wealthiest men in Rome:

Autumnus Leavus
Grammus Atticus



The following Senators are extremely wealthy:

Ironus Headus
Tyrus Ithus

These Senators are moderately wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus
Chiefus Rumus
Narcizus Lispus

These remaining Senators are of ordinary wealth:

Mustangus Sallus
Passus Caglius
Pathus Twelveus