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Flasch186 07-17-2024 04:00 PM

Even in writing an article he reads problematic




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JPhillips 07-17-2024 04:48 PM

Cuban is accusing bitcoin bros of backing Trump because the expected chaos and inflation will boost bitcoin and ake them richer.

JPhillips 07-17-2024 04:53 PM

dola

This is terrible, but not surprising given the shitshow Secret Service has become.

Quote:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:02 PM

I don't know how there will not be a blood bath in the Secret Service leadership. Just a shit show from the top down.

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CrimsonFox 07-17-2024 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3437120)
This is the most embarrassing thing at a RNC since Clint Eastwood talked to a chair.


even worse than the "I'm a MAGA kid" brat

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:15 PM

Hey Liberals, trying to make light of Trump being shot in the ear like it is no big deal, or play up that he may not of been hit by a bullet but some other shrapnel is not the big "own" you think it is. It makes you look petty and silly. Real bullets were fired at him. People were killed and injured.

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JPhillips 07-17-2024 05:17 PM

I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:17 PM

Biden diagnosed with Covid. Symptoms are mild so far.

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GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:18 PM

"I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that."

Really? Blood was pouring from his ear. Does a diagnosis matter? How?

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CrimsonFox 07-17-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3437106)
I think JD Vance wears a beard because otherwise his chin looks like it's made of sugar glass.



JPhillips 07-17-2024 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3437141)
"I'm not making light, but it is weird that we never heard from a doctor or saw any medical reports. And it's very weird that the media have been silent about that."

Really? Blood was pouring from his ear. Does a diagnosis matter? How?

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Medical reports for things much less serious are standard for everyone not named Trump. I don't expect any revelations, but, yes, one of the major candidates being injured in a shooting should lead to some level of medical details being reported.

JPhillips 07-17-2024 05:22 PM

dola

Never thought I'd live to see a GOP that was working towards allowing the Russians and the Chinese to invade their neighbors.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:34 PM

"Medical reports for things much less serious are standard for everyone not named Trump. I don't expect any revelations, but, yes, one of the major candidates being injured in a shooting should lead to some level of medical details being reported."

Seriously, that sounds as nutty as the Right wing conspiracy theories. What are you suggesting they are covering up? It was a minor wound to his ear. There isn't much a doctor's report would say more than that.

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CrimsonFox 07-17-2024 05:36 PM

The best thing I ever did lately was uninstall the news feed from Windows. I get upset a lot less now. I don't read all those moronic clickbait bot articles.

JPhillips 07-17-2024 05:37 PM

I'm not suggesting they're covering up anything. We used to get this kind of information as a standard. Was there a concussion? Is his hearing damaged? Were there any injuries when the SS intervened? This is all standard stuff, but Trump keeps it all secret.

CrimsonFox 07-17-2024 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3437136)
I don't know how there will not be a blood bath in the Secret Service leadership. Just a shit show from the top down.

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everything the GOP does is subpar and halfassed....there's nothing to see here really. in fact they'll blame YOU

Lathum 07-17-2024 05:45 PM

It would be the most Trump thing ever for him to dodge a bullet and Biden to die of Covid a week later

Lathum 07-17-2024 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3437147)
I'm not suggesting they're covering up anything. We used to get this kind of information as a standard. Was there a concussion? Is his hearing damaged? Were there any injuries when the SS intervened? This is all standard stuff, but Trump keeps it all secret.


I heard an expert today say even if his ear was grazed it would have been shredded.

RainMaker 07-17-2024 05:46 PM

Who do you think is in charge of the Secret Service?

CrimsonFox 07-17-2024 05:47 PM

It wasn't GOd that deflected the bullet btw, it was Satan. CHeeto made a deal with him to go out the Cheeto way...in a hotel with a hooker ODing on blow.

Danny 07-17-2024 05:52 PM

I cant imagine even mild to moderate covid will be helpful for Bidens energy and ability to campaign. Perhaps he can use this as a reason to go out with an excuse.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 05:58 PM

"Who do you think is in charge of the Secret Service?"

Obama, obviously.

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GrantDawg 07-17-2024 06:05 PM

Wow.
https://x.com/phildstewart/status/18...qcAoLrBDQ&s=19

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Brian Swartz 07-17-2024 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny
I cant imagine even mild to moderate covid will be helpful for Bidens energy and ability to campaign. Perhaps he can use this as a reason to go out with an excuse.


He definitely can, but I doubt very much that he will. Everything I've read says that even Democrats who want him to drop out think the wind has been taken out of that sail.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 06:18 PM

I don't think those sails have totally lost the wind.
https://x.com/brianstelter/status/18...XtHjE51Ig&s=19

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Ksyrup 07-17-2024 06:19 PM

My wife pointed out this morning that Vance's wife is Indian, which I didn't know but we both thought was interesting and funny as hell given, well, MAGA, and this evening I saw a Newsweek article about MAGA attacking her with racist comments.

RainMaker 07-17-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3437157)
I don't think those sails have totally lost the wind.
x.com


Between that and inviting Netanyahu to cut a campaign speech for Trump on the floors of Congress next week, I think Schumer may want to move on from Biden.

NobodyHere 07-17-2024 06:28 PM

Biden is reported to have the co-vids now.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 06:43 PM

Schumer and Jeffries were fighting with the DNC today as well, trying to stop them from having a phone roll-call nominate Biden before the convention.

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RainMaker 07-17-2024 06:48 PM

Yeah, Harrison was on Twitter yesterday lying about why they needed to get the nomination in before the convention. Good lord how did he get put in any position of power in the party? What a shitshow.

GrantDawg 07-17-2024 06:50 PM

Lol
https://x.com/MeghanMcCain/status/18...I3bPVnmxg&s=19

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GrantDawg 07-17-2024 07:06 PM

Uhhhh....
https://x.com/kasie/status/181372627...5iA2861xQ&s=19

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RainMaker 07-17-2024 07:47 PM

This is good. Ween her off the benzos a bit and she can be competitive.


Lathum 07-18-2024 09:13 AM

Good Lord the GOP is killing it. The guy who spoke about his son being killed at Abbey Gate and reading the names of those killed was really powerful.

Now granted, the guy they support is a 5 times draft dodger who called POws suckers and losers and questioned why anyone would join the military, but it doesn't matter. They love him.

Lathum 07-18-2024 09:14 AM

He is so cooked

Biden should drop out, nearly two-thirds of Democrats say: AP-NORC Poll | AP News

cuervo72 07-18-2024 10:08 AM

Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!

Atocep 07-18-2024 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3437186)
Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!


My favorite moment so far is the awkward silence after the Trump, Trump Baby rap video played.

JPhillips 07-18-2024 11:06 AM

I doubt it happens, but Biden leaving the race 15 minutes before Trump's speech would be perfect.

Lathum 07-18-2024 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3437186)
Yeah, they're killing it -- their speeches have included a Gov and his dog, an OnlyFans model/rap girlfriend/reality show person (with forehead tattoo), a daughter of reality show couple who are in jail for 20 years on fraud, a couple of sons and daughters (who aren't interesting enough for Dad to stay awake during), and now...Hulk Hogan. Yep, they are killing it.

Re: the second link. I am fine if he drops out (though still think they are ignoring a lot of voters, mostly Black). I'm also with him if he runs. Can do both!


You're seeing what you want to see if you don't think they are killing it.

And baby dog is awesome.

JPhillips 07-18-2024 11:10 AM

Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.

Lathum 07-18-2024 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3437192)
Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.


Perhaps, but putting parents of veterans killed by immigrants and soldiers killed under Bidens watch after he claimed no service members have been killed during his admin is very powerful.

especially in contrast to a drooling vessel of a man who will be at the DNC.

cuervo72 07-18-2024 11:16 AM

Now do Covid families. Or victims of mass shootings.

Lathum 07-18-2024 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3437194)
Now do Covid families. Or victims of mass shootings.


Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.

Atocep 07-18-2024 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3437195)
Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.


There's nothing that can be done for the people that don't understand that was forced on the Biden administration by Trump in a deal he made with the Taliban that released 5,000 captured taliban and that he wanted to negotiate with Taliban leadership at Camp David on the eve of 9/11.

Those people will get worked up by anything.

Ksyrup 07-18-2024 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3437192)
Nobody but partisans watches conventions anymore, so none of it matters.


It matters from the standpoint of turnout. Specifically, Bulwark pointed out today that the basic difference between Trump 2016 and Trump 2020 was white male turnout. He's doing well with that group right now.

JPhillips 07-18-2024 11:30 AM

Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.

Atocep 07-18-2024 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3437199)
Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.


Everything is so partisan right now very little matters. The debate didn't really move polling and so far the assassination attempt hasn't shown up in polling either. The RNC certainly isn't changing anything.

Lathum 07-18-2024 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3437199)
Yes, I just don't think anything that happens at the convention is making any difference. Persuadable voters aren't watching two hours a night of the convention.


You're right, but you can bet your ass they are hearing the soundbites...

cuervo72 07-18-2024 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3437195)
Whats your point?

If you don't think those parents resonate with a large audience you're not paying attention.


No point I guess. I suppose these stories - which are sad, yes - work on those same types who get choked up the 1,000th time the news plays a clip of a service member making it home unexpectedly for a graduation ceremony or differently-abled person making basket/scoring touchdown.

(But those other sad stories, they can go screw.)

Lathum 07-18-2024 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3437196)
There's nothing that can be done for the people that don't understand that was forced on the Biden administration by Trump in a deal he made with the Taliban that released 5,000 captured taliban and that he wanted to negotiate with Taliban leadership at Camp David on the eve of 9/11.

Those people will get worked up by anything.


If only we had a candidate who can point out these things instead of incoherently mumbling for twenty seconds then losing his train of thought and starring into the abyss with his mouth open


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