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The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:18 PM

Any chance anyone has been keeping up a count?

Danny 07-09-2009 08:20 PM

CR has four, funny how little support there is here, but if DT says its based on much less, hordes jumped for voting. That doesn't set off alarm bells?

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:20 PM

we are at 4 on CR I think it is 5 now on Telle and I dont know how many on you Jackal

Barkeep49 07-09-2009 08:20 PM

As of 1605:

Autumn: nfg (1132 9:42 pm)
Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) CR (1561 7:30 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) Jackal (1566 7:34)
nfg: henry (1603 8:16 pm)
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)
Chief Rum: Telle (1428 2:58 pm) Danny (1577 7:51 pm) ntn (1587 8:04 pm) king (1602 8:15 pm)

Danny 07-09-2009 08:21 PM

Jackal, your suspicion was on CR earlier, why not voting for him now?

Danny 07-09-2009 08:22 PM

Seriously, if we are right about CR which is likely we catch a wolf. We are wrong, we get a wolf tomorrow. and quite possibly more. Like I said, I will reveal everything if this turns out to be wrong.

The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069022)
CR has four, funny how little support there is here, but if DT says its based on much less, hordes jumped for voting. That doesn't set off alarm bells?


I think I missed it, but were you suggesting we vote for CR and then it'll tell you something about two people?

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069018)
Honestly, if this person is lying, it hurts us little. You die, but we catch wolves. If he is lying it is a very bad play.


Except for one thing--would he know that the two others you speak of would be so obvious for his making the play? And if he's a wolf, he knows a lot more about what's going on than you (presumeably not a wolf) know, meaning the wolves might be in a better spot than you think.

I am Kim Bauer. I can stop wolf PMs for a few hours (that's what DT meant about an ability that can't be confirmed). I have nothing else to offer, though, except that this person is wrong, and it supremely sucks that there is pretty much nothing I can say to defend myself, because the accusations against me are hidden away in a PM. This situation is just ripe for manipulation, and right when we are on the verge of lynching another player.

Doesn't that make anyone even a little bit suspicious?

The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069026)
Jackal, your suspicion was on CR earlier, why not voting for him now?


I had agreed with him to switch to Telle because I'm suspicious of them both. Let me go back and read what you just said on the previous page, unless you want to sum it up again real quick.

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2069029)
I think I missed it, but were you suggesting we vote for CR and then it'll tell you something about two people?


close, but I read his discussion it will tell him about two people if the info is erroneous

Danny 07-09-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2069029)
I think I missed it, but were you suggesting we vote for CR and then it'll tell you something about two people?


Someone PM'ed me CR is a wolf. If we lynch CR and he is not a wolf, this person will be revealed. I also know this person is involved with someone else, so I can likely get us two wolves. But I am not giving this person up unless we lynch CR and are wrong obviously. We need to lynch CR here.

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069022)
CR has four, funny how little support there is here, but if DT says its based on much less, hordes jumped for voting. That doesn't set off alarm bells?


You're not DT.

The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069033)
Someone PM'ed me CR is a wolf. If we lynch CR and he is not a wolf, this person will be revealed. I also know this person is involved with someone else, so I can likely get us two wolves. But I am not giving this person up unless we lynch CR and are wrong obviously. We need to lynch CR here.


Well, I can't argue too much with that. I don't know how much I trust Danny but this seems like a decent shot at some info here.

unvote telle

vote cr

kingfc22 07-09-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2069016)
Wow.

Based on my post after Day 1 on the middle votes for Kwhit, led me to Telle today and I felt CR was ok b/c I didn't think his day 1 vote was based. I think Jackal is good and the frustration is real.

I wish someone would confirm Danny's story before I vote. However, given my statements above, I'll pick nfg22 for now but could change with more info as last nights exhcange seems a bit odd.

vote nfg22


Wish you were online earlier to help me with this effort. I still have nfg high on my list, but danny seemingly has a lock on a wolf.

The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:26 PM

Sorry CR - everything that's going on is suspicious to me, but I'm still deciding between you and Telle, and with what Danny has offered.. hard to go a different direction.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2069034)
You're not DT.


But the lack of support here when it is clearly the best play. Even if you are a villager, at this point lynching you will have a good end result. And like I said, I feel really good about this person telling the truth

Danny 07-09-2009 08:28 PM

To the person who PM'ed, No, but like I said, I feel good about this person

henry296 07-09-2009 08:30 PM

I thought we still had some votes for NFG, but realize everyone moved away from him.

I agree with danny that this is a no lose situation by voting for CR. If we are wrong we'll learn a lot.

unvote nfg22
Vote Chief Rum

Danny 07-09-2009 08:30 PM

Seriously guys, voting CR is the best vote as we learn an awful lot from the result. And if you guys want to lynch me along with those I trusted I understand

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:31 PM

Unvote CR

The Jackal 07-09-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2069044)
Unvote CR


Curious.

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069039)
But the lack of support here when it is clearly the best play. Even if you are a villager, at this point lynching you will have a good end result. And like I said, I feel really good about this person telling the truth


But, you see, that's coming wholely from inside you and your convictions. Of course you're confident in your own reads. How, though, can you expect everyone else to just take a mystery PM at face value? And then you have the gall to use your bad read on everyone else as more "evidence" I am a wolf? Nice.

I disagree that lynching me will have a good result, since a villager will be dead.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2069046)
But, you see, that's coming wholely from inside you and your convictions. Of course you're confident in your own reads. How, though, can you expect everyone else to just take a mystery PM at face value? And then you have the gall to use your bad read on everyone else as more "evidence" I am a wolf? Nice.

I disagree that lynching me will have a good result, since a villager will be dead.


Because if I am wrong and this person is lying, this person must be a wolf. I can also link another with this person. CR, you're a good enough player right now to know lynching you is the best decision because we will catch a wolf either way.

Passacaglia 07-09-2009 08:33 PM

This is madness.

kingfc22 07-09-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2069045)
Curious.


Indeed.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:33 PM

NTN, why the unvote?

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069047)
Because if I am wrong and this person is lying, this person must be a wolf. I can also link another with this person. CR, you're a good enough player right now to know lynching you is the best decision because we will catch a wolf either way.


Sorry, I still think I have something to offer this game, so I'm not ready to throw myself on the pyre of self-sacrifice. I think if this were a public accusation, I would have no problem; I would try to show why this person's conclusion is wrong, but that's the game and I know it.

But tried and executed by an accuser too chickencrap to come out direct and face off with me? Sorry, I don't think anyone in my position would just choose to accept it.

nfg22 07-09-2009 08:36 PM

I buy CR. I dont buy Telle. I dont want to elaborate much more. That is just how I feel.

UNVOTE AUTUMN
VOTE TELLE

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069050)
NTN, why the unvote?


Probably because he isn't interested in being a McCarthyist.

Alan T 07-09-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2069048)
This is madness.




THIS IS SPARTA!

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:37 PM

Well it so happens I will be able to verify his story soon. I have sent the order already to do so.

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:38 PM

Obviously I have not been scanned. Okay then, someone scan me. PM your result to DT tomorrow. If he announces I'm a wolf, lynch me. I can abide by that, because I am certain DT knows who the seer is. And we know we can trust DT.

But this kangaroo court lynching? Bull. I deserve better than that.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:38 PM

And if we are wrong on Telle, what does that tell us? Someone is 100% sure CR is a wolf. If he is not a wolf, this other person must be a wolf as well as likely someone he is linked with.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:39 PM

ntn, so you will be able to verify if he is telling the truth or not? If so, that is great.

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:39 PM

so I am ok with putting my vote elsewhere too. Because one way or another I will have an answer on CR as soon as my order is processed.
Vote Telle

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:40 PM

I will certainly be able to tell if he is telling the truth or not.

hoopsguy 07-09-2009 08:40 PM

ntndeacon approaches Chief Rum with a revolver and unloads a pair of rounds into his head, executing him where he stands! Kim Bauer falls to the ground, with a stunned look on her face ... how could this have happened? Where did it all go wrong?

However, those loyal to the Government feel a little differently after learning ....


Quote:

Welcome to the Conspiracy. As Kim Bauer you are the wolves' seer. Once every 24 hours you may learn what character a player is playing as (though you will not learn any of their abilities).

PurdueBrad 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

How long till we get the answer ntn, since the clock is ticking?

Danny 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

Telle is close to being lynched though, shouldn't we hold off from the lynch?

ntndeacon 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

So go ahead and unvote CR and vote for whomever else you want.

Danny 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

Hell yeah!

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2069057)
And if we are wrong on Telle, what does that tell us? Someone is 100% sure CR is a wolf. If he is not a wolf, this other person must be a wolf as well as likely someone he is linked with.


One person we don't know who you claim to trust says I am a wolf.

But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest Telle is indeed a wolf, not to mention the very fact that when she was on the verge of the lynch, some mystery PM shows up in your inbox. That doesn't make you stop and think a bit?

Come on, Danny, you know better than to get hooked like this.

PurdueBrad 07-09-2009 08:41 PM

Holy Christ, that's not a lie detector test, that was an execution!

Danny 07-09-2009 08:42 PM

Unvote CR
Vote Thomkal

PurdueBrad 07-09-2009 08:42 PM

Does this mean we still have to lynch?

Chief Rum 07-09-2009 08:42 PM

:P

That's what you get for putting all those disrespectful pictures in this thread, you pervs. ;)

Go Conspiracy!

Passacaglia 07-09-2009 08:42 PM

Wow, nice!

Danny 07-09-2009 08:43 PM

Thomkal was here and did not move towards CR. He helped establish Jackal as a candidate early today for a NG, Jackal run off. He also defended CR subtety

henry296 07-09-2009 08:43 PM

Woohoo!!


unvote CR
Vote Telle


Back to my first suspcion of the day.

Barkeep49 07-09-2009 08:44 PM

No vote for CR is valid at this moment. No need to unvote.


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