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are you assholes just going to sit there or are you going to say anything. this is what pisses me off. every game you guys kill off the people that actually are dedicated to it and this is what happens at end game. And you are suprised you lose.
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I'm trying to get you guys to play. I'm trying to get you guys to read people. Half of the votes on me are complete shit and no one is asking any questions about it. Pisses me off when people sign up to play a game and give it this kind of lax treatment. |
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I would take this as an aberration. There usually isn't name calling when people are about to be voted out. |
anyone here. please explain to me how you feel shark is NOT a badguy
dan also please explain to me how you think i'm a badguy since you haven't yet |
this is just awful
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comrades, my full role is russian spy.
i have no killing involved in my role at all. i was only sent to prevent you from making progress but I've not had to do a single thing as you guys started killing each other. I do not know the killers |
Vote came down to 2... your play confused me the most. I think you have added quite a bit but something isn't quite right.
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this is the only reason i think i withstood interrogation
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i am neutral.
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i am not on any team but i'm not against any team
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except that you guys are letting the lazy people coast to the end of the game |
Da I tell truth. I am russian but have not killed a single person
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I have been around all day. Shark is a new player. Quit personally attacking him. We want to grow this community, not shrink it. You owe him an apology. |
all the people the went to heat sig gained stats.
they also have lowered hit points. raven didn't want to reveal that. dan kinda lioed too |
Deadline
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No more posts until I process
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Final Count
Lynch CrimsonFox 8 - Shoveler (3074), Thomkal (3117), Sharkn20 (3128), Zinto (3147), timmae (3156), Suicane75 (3167), DanGarion (3187) Sharkn20 7 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952), Grover (3106), ntndeacon (3125), CrimsonFox (3136) Action Upgrade Biodome 3- Grover (2906), Sharkn20 (2929), The Jackal (2951) Heal Thomkal 1 - ntndeacon (2901) Heal Suicane75 1 - Narcizo (2931) Enter Original Pod 1 - Raven (3064) Explore Southeast Site 4 - timmae (3161), Zinto (3164), Shoveler (3168), DanGarion (3186) |
Day 9 Results
You decide that CrimsonFox must be one of the rebels/killers. You grab him and throw him into the oven. He shouts at everyone on his way in but soon there is silence. You find a detailed log that he kept, it is written in Russian. He was a Russian spy that snuck his way onto the colony pod. He was there to stall the development until the Russians landed with their colony pod. While the Russians haven't landed yet, he has achieved his initial win condition as the colony won't reach the required level by the time the Russians land. ntndeacon has worked on healing Thomkal; Thomkal is looking much better. Narcizo has worked on healing Suicane75. Suicane75 is looking a little better. The biodome has been upgraded. Raven has entered the original pod to try to recover, or get to, the communication equipment. He has not yet returned... timmae, Zinto, Shoveler and DanGarion have gone to explore the landing site. They have not yet refurned... |
Day 9 Early Evening Results
timmae, Zinto, Shoveler and DanGarion have all returned from the landing site. They have brought with them plenty of supplies and have found an upgrade for the science center. Raven has returned from the original pod. He looks fine. |
The communicator is fine. Going to need multiple people to retrieve it. It's too heavy for one person.
I suffered no physical damage in there. Those bastards forgot all about us and don't care. They were playing video games. |
Night 9 Results
The next morning you find Suicane75 lying dead on the ground. Next to him is a note "Seek the Truth". He was a retired politician, who had retired due to accusations of bribery. He was also a member of The Resistance with Cunning ability. You also find a puzzled Shoveler standing over a dead timmae. I was only interrogating him like everyone else. I don't know why he died, I honestly don't. Midway through he just collapsed, it looks like he was drugged. timmae was a blogger that was facing charges of identity theft before he joined the colony to get away from that. He was a loyal colonist. |
So I see the voting is all out of whack again...
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Day 10 Options
Votes - Lynch Vote - Call for New Elections (Yes/No) The Colony Can Select Individual Actions - Upgrade Science Center - Need 3 resources - Retrieve Communication Equipment - Need 3 resources - Explore (flatlands, landing site, heat source) - Create Defense Upgrade plans (engineering team) Thomkal can - Assign new police force Day 10 has begun - Deadline Tuesday 10 PM EST |
well.. not a good evening for the shoveler... I shall retire to the biodome to rethink my life.
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If you choose to run new elections, they will run on day 11 and there will be no night actions or lynch vote that day.
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thank you for the healing ntn...and never say its ok to make me a police officer I guess.
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One last thing, Golden Eagle is out of jail now.
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Looks like we're down to 11 (according to Page 1).
Looks like Seeker of Truth is an actual group. Zinto is still, in my mind, part of The Resistance. If you're a good guy, you should be voting for him now. Anyone that does not vote for him is likely also part of The Resistance. vote Zinto New election: no Action retrieve communicator |
I'm unsure why CF said I lied about the heat source. I told you what I knew. ((my character))
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I encourage everyone to vote for me or Zinto this round. Please don't waste any votes on anyone else.
If We lynch Zinto and he is part of the Resistance, as I suspect he is, you know for a fact that I am not. If we lynch Zinto and he is not a part of The Resistance, you can lynch me next if you like and I won't try and fight it. If you lynch me first, you still don't know about Zinto. You will ultimately find out I am just a regular colonist. You will find out what 2 people are or are not in a single vote. It's a win win for the good guys. Who votes for who will be very telling here. |
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And when I come up a colonist we still know nothing about you. You could be the murderer or in either faction or a colonist who had a hunch that was wrong. I still think there is a such a good chance that you are the murderer. You have seemed to attack me since I pointed out the discrepancy in you becoming injured and surviving. |
What makes you so convinced? You asked me for proof of my timeline and then decided that wasn't good enough because it proved your first theory wrong.
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Vote for me then. We'll find out something one way or another, right?
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I'm just going to throw this out there. Maybe CF was right about Shark and you guys are trying to throw us off the scent. Just saying...
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Living another day. Thanks for trust in me guys :)
Time to upgrade our beloved research center! vote: upgrade science center |
Still believing in our leader
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Blanket statements like this are NOT beneficial to the colony. If nothing else we should, ideally, still be looking to get a three-horse race here rather than a straight up two-horse race. If you have hard evidence that Zinto is a baddy then tell us about it. If you can quote reasons why you suspect him that's fine. If it's in-thread then point it out. If it's information you've received in PM then tell us about it so we can evaluate. As it is now the impression I'm getting is a) you have a win condition to see Zinto dead, or b) you've got villager-tunnel vision (I've been inflicted more than most by it) and have convinced yourself that Zinto is a baddy. I'm all about having re-elections to be honest. Mainly because I want to head up the science section now that timmae has bitten it. Speaking of which Shoveler I suggest you don't interrogate anyone else with crap physical stats. That definitely includes me. You never actually came back with what you learned about Suicane. |
Day Seven
#2192 23:37 Thomkal votes Zinto (1) #2267 13:08 Narcizo votes Crimson (1) #2296 14:49 Suicane votes DanGarion (1) #2317 15:13 Raven votes fontisian (1) #2333 15:30 DanGarion votes DanGarion (2) #2340 15:37 timmae votes DanGarion (3) #2349 15:59 Shark votes Crimson (2) #2365 16:37 timmae unvotes DanGarion (2) #2367 16:40 timmae votes GoldenEagle (1) #2374 16:57 saldana votes DanGarion (3) #2391 17:38 Crimson votes Sharkn (1) #2392 17:39 DanGarion unvotes DanGarion (2) #2392 17:39 DanGarion votes Zinto (2) #2402 17:52 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (2) #2409 18:00 Shoveler votes GoldenEagle (3) #2417 18:12 DanGarion unvotes Zinto (1) #2417 18:12 DanGarion votes Crimson (3) #2438 18:47 Fontisian votes DanGarion (3) #2444 19:25 Grover votes GoldenEagle (4) #2448 19:39 Autumn votes Crimson (4) #2453 19:53 Ntndeacon votes GoldenEagle (5) #2455 19:56 Chief Rum votes DanGarion (4) #2458 20:06 JAG votes DanGarion (5) #2459 20:10 Zinto votes Crimson (5) #2480 20:56 Britrock votes Crimson (6) #2487 21:16 Suicane unvotes DanGarion (4) #2487 21:16 Suicane votes GoldenEagle (6) #2501 21:40 Crimson unvotes Sharkn (0) #2501 21:40 Crimson votes DanGarion (5) #2513 21:47 GoldenEagle votes Crimson (7) #2528 20:01 Crimson unvotes DanGarion (4) #2528 20:01 Crimson votes GoldenEagle (7) #2554 20:31 Thomkal unvotes Zinto (0) #2554 20:31 Thomkal votes GoldenEagle (8) #2563 20:36 Britrock unvotes Crimson (6) #2563 20:36 Britrock votes GoldenEagle (9) #2565 20:37 Saldana unvotes DanGarion (5) #2563 20:37 Saldana votes GoldenEagle (10) Final Vote GoldenEagle 10 - timmae (2367), The Jackal (2402), Shoveler (2409), Grover (2444), ntndeacon (2453), Suicane75 (2487), CrimsonFox (2528), Thomkal (2554), britrock88 (2563), saldana (2565) CrimsonFox 5 - Narcizo (2267), sharkn20 (2349), DanGarion (2417), Autumn (2448), Zinto (2459), GoldenEagle (2513) DanGarion 3 - fontisian (2438), Chief Rum (2455), JAG (2458) fontisian 1 - Raven (2317) |
Day Eight
#2628 06:21 Narcizo votes Jackal (1) #2655 10:42 Autumn votes Shoveler (1) #2698 14:15 Crimson votes Shark (1) #2699 14:25 Shark votes Crimson (1) #2718 15:35 Timmae votes Saldana (1) #2746 17:17 Britrock votes Saldana (2) #2760 18:00 Golden votes Shark (2) #2770 19:32 Saldana votes DanGarion (x) #2771 19:43 Grover votes Saldana (3) #2773 19:47 Suicane votes DanGarion (1) #2774 19:47 Jackal votes DanGarion (2) #2775 19:49 Shoveler votes Saldana (4) #2777 19:52 Ntndeacon votes DanGarion (3) #2780 19:54 Zinto votes Shark (3) #2788 20:02 DanGarion votes Saldana (5) #2790 20:06 Raven votes DanGarion (4) #2798 21:46 Thomkal votes Saldana (6) #2801 20:15 Font votes Saldana (7) #2817 22:56 Brit unvotes Saldana (6) #2817 22:56 Brit votes DanGarion (5) #2818 22:57 Grover unvotes Saldana (5) #2818 22:57 Grover votes DanGarion (6) #2821 23:00 Britrock unvotes DanGarion (5) #2821 23:00 Britrock votes Saldana (6) saldana 6 - timmae (2717), britrock88 (2820), Shoveler (2775), DanGarion (2788), Thomkal (2798), fontisian (2801) DanGarion 5 - Suicane75 (2773), The Jackal (2774), ntndeacon (2777), Raven (2790), Grover (2818) Sharkn20 3 - CrimsonFox (2698), GoldenEagle (2760), Zinto (2780) The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (2628) Shoveler 1 - Autumn (2655) CrimsonFox 1 - Sharkn20 (2699) |
Day Nine
#2842 00:42 Suicane votes Britrock (1) #2891 15:09 timmae votes DanGarion (1) #2896 18:08 Shark votes Shoveler (1) #2902 18:42 Ntn votes DanGarion (2) #2928 04:03 Narcizo votes Jackal (1) #2941 09:02 Narcizo unvotes Jackal (0) #2941 09:02 Narcizo votes Shark (1) #2945 09:15 Grover votes Golden (1) #2952 10:47 Jackal votes Shark (2) #2954 10:54 Crimson votes DanGarion (3) #2995 11:55 Grover unvotes Golden (0) #3019 12:26 Crimson unvotes DanGarion (2) #3074 16:10 Shoveler votes Crimson (1) #3086 16:31 Shark unvotes Shoveler (0) #3086 16:31 Shark votes DanGarion (3) #3106 16:49 Grover votes Shark (3) #3117 17:33 Thomkal votes Crimson (2) #3125 18:12 NTN unvotes DanGarion (2) #3125 18:12 NTN votes Shark (4) #3128 18:19 Shark unvotes DanGarion (1) #3128 18:19 Shark votes Crimson (3) #3136 18:46 Crimson votes Shark (5) #3140 19:44 Raven votes Zinto (1) #3147 20:20 Zinto votes Crimson (4) #3156 20:34 timmae unvotes DanGarion (0) #3136 20:34 timmae votes Crimson (5) #3167 20:48 Suicane votes Crimson (6) #3177 21:05 Raven unvotes Zinto (0) #3187 21:25 DanGarion votes Crimson (7) CrimsonFox 8 - Shoveler (3074), Thomkal (3117), Sharkn20 (3128), Zinto (3147), timmae (3156), Suicane75 (3167), DanGarion (3187) Sharkn20 7 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952), Grover (3106), ntndeacon (3125), CrimsonFox (3136) |
So clearly there's been a fair bit of ballot box-stuffing involved in this vote. Crimson got a +1 vote which I believe is Thomkal's extra vote. Shark on the other hand got +2 votes from somewhere. I see two main possibilities
a) Crimson got a +2 vote from somewhere b) Someone was trying to cause confusion by getting Shark lynched instead of Crimson so that we would all be voting Crimson today. Makes me a smidgeon more trusting of Shark. Plus his general demeanor yesterday spoke of a new player villager. Next up there was only one night kill again. Do the two wolf teams get alternate night kills after the first one? Also worth noting that we've been absolutely useless as a village so far. Three wolves down and not one of them caught in a lynch. |
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Except that I voted for Font and I'm not in the resistance. So, yeah, maybe it was only 2 or 3 who were taken from the Font voters so I didn't make the cut but that kind of dilutes the chance of using the information in any useful way. And is it not possible that, to off-set this, the Truth Seekers were taken from Thom voters. Given that there's probably more of them left you might want to argue that we should be targeting ardent Thomkal voters. Basically I think you're driving up a blind alley pursuing that as a strategy for determining allegiances. |
3) The Jackal
8) ntndeacon 9) Thomkal 11) Grover 14) GoldenEagle 15) DanGarion 16) Raven 18) Shoveler 19) Zinto 20) Narcizo 21) SharkN20 So let's hope that the wolf teams were three-man. That seems kind of fair if there's a lone killer and a nuetral in the mix and both teams had a cunning and, presumably, a brutal as well. So by my calculations we have 1 Resistance member, 2 Truth Seekers, 1 Angel and 7 villagers. I'm going to start working under the assumption that the wolf teams were created on day seven so looking further back for pointers to who could be a wolf would be pointless. |
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So we need to stop pfaffing around and consider getting our shit together before the Ruskies turn up. Seems to me that the best way to achieve that is to stop killing each other and concentrate our efforts on getting the base in better shape. We haven't been able to do anything constructive the last three days while the fatality rate has sky-rocketed. If nothing else there will not be a night kill on day eleven. I don't feel like we have enough from voting records to narrow in on the wolves that are left so no lynch won't be the end of the world either. Vote New Elections Resitance dude/s - your leader is dead and your secret agent is dead. I urge you to consider ending the bloodshed and getting on-board with new elections. Truth Seekers - dunno what you're point is really so, whatever. But presumably you want to survive after you've achieved whatever it is that you're trying to achieve. If the base is a half-developed hunk of crap manned by 3 people then you're not going to be doing the happy-little-dance. |
"you're point" - I shall now die from mortification.
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If the Ruskies are coming then I would imagine it's vital that we upgrade our defence plans. Because, you know, this is 1963 after all. I'm not really sure what upgrading the science center is going to get us if we're busy killing the hell out of each other but I'll do that anyway.
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[quote=EagleFan;3006333] Midway through he just collapsed, it looks like he was drugged.
Just reread this and yeah we might as well get this over with. I know nothing of what happened to timmae but I recognise that people will draw the connection between the chemist/"drug dealer" and a guy who was drugged. Sadly I don't even think a wolf will have to push that, let a villager go there and then support them. But seriously, would it really be sign posted so clearly if I was somehow responsible for that? |
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All I found out was that Suicane was not a murderer. Whether that was due to his ability or if he hadn't killed anyone I do not know. I was not aware that he was a resistance member. I hesitated to mention what I found in the hope that he wouldn't get killed off as every other person I have interrogated has been thus far. Unfortunately it is obvious who has been interrogated which singles that person out. I can also reveal that Timmae was not a murderer as well. That information is no longer classified. Everyone I have cleared is now deceased. So I'm not sure that interrogations going forward are going to yield results in a timely enough fashion to be helpful. I'll have to think on this more during the day today. |
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As of post 3253:
Lynch Zinto 1 - Raven (3229) Elections Yes 1 - Narcizo (3246) No 3 - Raven (3229), Sharkn20 (3238), Grover (3251) Actions Retrieve Communicator 1 - Raven (3229) Upgrade Research Center 2 - Sharkn20 (3237), Narcizo (3248) Design Upgrade Defense 1 - Grover (3251) Explore Flatlands 0 Explore Heat Source 0 Explore Landing Site 0 |
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I'm going to hold off on a new election decision until we hear from some more people today, including Thom
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Aye, I would imagine he'll be all about a new election. Can any of the advocates of maintaining the status quo care to step in to post why they believe we're best off keeping things as they are? I think I've stated my argument fairly succiently (by my standards). But here's the bullet points 1) at least gives us a ceasefire from wolf situation allowing us to concentrate on getting the colony in shape 2) also lets us get to grips with the Angel situation unhindered by wolfy activities. 3) possibly the disbanding of one of the wolf groups (the Resistance will have nothing to resist). What are we gaining by staying how we are? I'm sure there are some things (I can even think of some myself but I've no interest in playing devil's advocate) so why isn't anyone even bothering to make the points. |
The one major counter-point to a new election is that we'd probably be subject to a kill and our numbers are dwindling. However, the counter to that is that if we lynch a villager we're in even worse shape.
Who knows what kind of mechanics we'd trigger by electing a new leader, but things certainly haven't been going well recently. |
Oh, but now that I re-read Narc's post it reminds me that a new election wouldn't allow night actions, right? That makes me lean more towards it.
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Okay, I completely missed the post about a lynch vote being suspended if we vote for new elections.
I need to rethink this. UNVOTE No New Elections |
I'm willing to listen to reasons why we shouldn't run a new election. If we had a surefire lynch candidate I'd be in favor of a lynch, but I don't think we do.
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As of post 3262:
Lynch Zinto 1 - Raven (3229) Elections Yes 2 - Narcizo (3246), The Jackal (3260) No 2 - Raven (3229), Sharkn20 (3238) Actions Retrieve Communicator 1 - Raven (3229) Upgrade Research Center 2 - Sharkn20 (3237), Narcizo (3248) Design Upgrade Defense 2 - Grover (3251), The Jackal (3255) Explore Flatlands 0 Explore Heat Source 0 Explore Landing Site 0 |
3) The Jackal - yeah. Got nothing.
8) ntndeacon - is our best medical guy so probably don't want to lynch just now without damning evidence. Unfortunately I think there's a better than base-line chance that he is a wolf. 9) Thomkal - can our leader be a Truth Seeker? Or the Angel? I guess but I think that's a bit out there so we won't go there. 11) Grover - Late vote switch from Sal to DanG strikes me as fairly villagerish, especially for a new player. 14) GoldenEagle - Was in jail when murderer killed Fonti, duked vote to fonti. Makes him positive to me. 15) DanGarion - there's the whole Britrock thing. I think that's a pretty strong indicator that DG isn't a Seeker. He also garnered votes from Suicane which leans to him not being Resistance either. 16) Raven - not much. The whole Zinto MUST BE LYNCHED thing prods me into thinking he's a villager. I'm not sure a wolf goes out on that sort of a limb, but kudos if he is a wolf. 18) Shoveler - could the semi-seer also be a wolf. I guess if his seer power is solely to discover the Angel. I'll give him a pass for now. 19) Zinto - Not a fat lot of anything to be honest. 20) Narcizo - ? 21) SharkN20 - extra vote shenanighans possibly point away from being wolfy. Has got the whole "new villager on the block" schtick down very well. So I'm thinking Jackal or Zinto. I really want to avoid some sort of misguided Zinto vs Raven bandwagon though. I would like more from teh Jackal so prod, prod. Vote Jackal |
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I believe so. I think the election vote changes the dynamic for tomorrow if we go that route. |
Looking more at Britrock's vote on GoldenEagle day seven and you could definitely make the case that Brit threw GE under the bus so that the duke could be used. So I definitely wouldn't discount GE from being a Truth Seeker. But the percentage-play seems to not to be to vote for him just now.
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As of post 3267:
Lynch Zinto 1 - Raven (3229) The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (3264) Elections Yes 2 - Narcizo (3246), The Jackal (3260) No 2 - Raven (3229), Sharkn20 (3238) Actions Retrieve Communicator 1 - Raven (3229) Upgrade Research Center 2 - Sharkn20 (3237), Narcizo (3248) Design Upgrade Defense 2 - Grover (3251), The Jackal (3255) Explore Flatlands 0 Explore Heat Source 0 Explore Landing Site 0 |
So if we choose to have elections does it become an open vote for anyone situation, or will there be a set list of candidates?
Narc believes there are 4 baddies left, and there are 11 of us in total. If the vote is open, and we assume that thomkal will not win, and to be honest with my background I doubt the resistance would be any more likely to be quelled if I were leader, we can rule out 2 candidates. That leaves 9 candidates. I know that Thom and myself are not the angel of mercy, so one of the 9 candidates is. Thom in my mind is definitely not resistance, if he was I have no idea what the hell the resistance was formed for in the first place. If he is a seeker (and depending how you feel about me) there are 2-4 baddies in that group of 9. I don't think the leader can be lynched. I am not certain about that, but given the wording that Thomkal is passing judgement over the person we vote to be lynched, I am guessing he is immune. Maybe we need clarification here. So do we want to take the chance that we elect a baddie into a position that may or may not be immune to lynching? I'm not sold one way or the other, just wanted to bring up what I see as a potential pitfall if we go the election route. |
If we were willing to go through with new elections, I would put myself up as a candidate to become the new leader.
We have had excellent success in the engineering department under my leadership. Upgrades have been made across the board and having previous experience in space and with systems of these kinds, I feel I am a natural fit. I am willing to do what it takes to root out the Angel of Mercy, the Truth Seekers and the Resistance. We can still have a functioning colony on Mars. We can not only survive, but thrive here. I would also give up my post as head engineer. I would not appoint a replacement without the approval of the rest of our crew. Let's hold new elections. We can still make this colony a success. I can help us lead the way there. VOTE hold new elections |
I think holding elections is smart. Yes, we lose a lynch vote and night actions, but that will save us for another night. We need another day to regroup, process and discuss. It is paramount that we find the wolves and root them out.
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I also want to thank Thomkal for his leadership in what has been a very troubled time. None of us saw what happened coming and he has dealt with it best as he can. It is unfair to assign any blame to him, though I know he blames himself heavily. He took control when we needed somebody to take control. I can honestly say I did vote for fontisian. I thought he original leadership was the correct path to pursue when we landed. However, I can unequivocally say I am not a member of the Resistance nor The Seekers. I am but a humble villager who wants what is best for the rest of us trying to eke out a living in this harsh Martian landscape.
I urge you, brothers, support the elections. Support my candidacy. I will not let you down. |
Despite his meh engineering ability, I would support Grover as the new leader of the colony.
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Thank you, GE. I hope that we can forge forward together and put our past squabbles behind us. |
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We are currently on Day 10. This note says if we choose reelections, there will be no lynch on day 11. Which implies that there still needs to be a day 10 lynch. |
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Thank you for clarification. My point still stands, though that day of being able to process is one day further forward. |
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So as far as I go, it should have been clear that my primary motivation was to be the head of the engineering team. Once that didn't happen, I've had nothing occur the rest of the game. No attacks, no items, no bits of information. Just sitting along and watchin' and believing I should be on any engineering task because that'll raise the chances of it being successful.
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Thanks for this, for some reason I was under the impression that a new election would cancel out lynch vote today. |
As of post 3279:
Lynch Zinto 1 - Raven (3229) The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (3264) Elections Yes 4 - Narcizo (3246), The Jackal (3260), Grover (3270), GoldenEagle (3277) No 2 - Raven (3229), Sharkn20 (3238) Actions Retrieve Communicator 1 - Raven (3229) Upgrade Research Center 2 - Sharkn20 (3237), Narcizo (3248) Design Upgrade Defense 2 - Grover (3251), The Jackal (3255) Explore Flatlands 0 Explore Heat Source 0 Explore Landing Site 0 |
I think I'm looking at Zinto/Raven, shark, and ntn. I agree that it's hard to take out ntn being the only medical staff left but that could have been part of the plan to ensure he'd survive by taking out the other medical folk. But they were also smart targets since their skills would help keep people alive.
Raven's directive post rubbed me the wrong way, but I need to go back and look at more posts there. At the time it would have struck me as surprising that Zinto would come out so strongly against Thomkal as a wolf, so he's got that in his favor. I don't want to get us pigeon-holed between two people today though, not the best for vote history. |
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Of the various colonist actions, I'd like to see the communication equipment retrieved and the colony and the defensive upgrade planned. Should be no surprise I don't want elections, especially these because it comes at the cost of a lynch and night actions. |
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Narcizo I do not have an extra vote power though I wish I did. Someone else who voted for him is the likely culprit. And CF, his protests aside, was not our friend, Despite our horrible record as villagers, I feel good that we will find our Angel of Mercy soon as the number of candidates is more manageable now. |
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Once my enemies let me have a police force then yes they can protect you. |
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This is b.s. By my theory, Zinto came out against Thomkal before he was a wolf (before The Resistance was formed). You have no reason to trust me. I expect that I am just as suspect as everyone else on your list, as I should be. You also should have no reason to trust Zinto. If you believe I am a wolf of some sort then vote for me. It's as simple as that. If your suspect list is only me, Zinto, shark and ntn, then you eliminate 25% of your suspects tonight simply by voting for me or Zinto. If that was truly your list, then you should be glad to eliminate me or Zinto tonight. |
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When do you think I was converted to the Resistance? Your timeline doesn't make a lot of sense. |
Fellow Colonists,
I can not assure you 100% that Zinto is part of The Resistance. I am basing this off of my theory of how The Resistance was formed. I have already requested that you vote me vs Zinto tonight. If Zinto is part of The Resistance, you will know that I am not. No way would Resistance pit one of their own vs another at this point, because everything is so cloudy at this point and they could spread votes around to someone else. If you vote me vs Zinto tonight,I have told you that you can lynch me next time and I will not fight it. If he ends up being a regular colonist, I would fully expect to be lynched and be suspect #1. If Zinto is part of The Resistance, then The Resistance will continue to cause confusion and avoid me vs Zinto tonight. They will posture an find an out, so that they can save him tonight. They are preying on causing more confusion, and their goal is to avoid me vs Zinto tonight. |
Also, do you think Narcizo is a part of the Resistance too? He has come out and said he voted for Font.
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I did as well, for the record. |
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There is the fact that the Resistance took out both medics - paving the way for NTN. That could suggest that NTN is Resistance. Hopefully a re-election would mollify the Resistance effectively converting him/them back to villager.I actually have a feeling that NTN could be the Angel. Wasn't his initial backstory pretty vague? I wish Raven hadn't made his play about Zinto coz I'd probably be looking there at the moment. Voting records are probably not fantastically useful at this point. We probably have two lone wolves and a duo. Not going to get much of a read from that. |
Just reading back through the posts from last night, and I want to remind you that the Russians are coming, and now that their spy is gone, they aren't going to care one bit about the Angel of Mercy or what factions we are in here-they likely will be trying to kill us all so they can claim Mars for their own. We need to have the defenses improved and ready when they get here.
And yes while it will suck to let the wolves kill again if there no elections, I'm pretty sure many of us by now have night actions that will benefit the colony. I do, and I don't want to be able to not guard someone because of an election that will likely take such an ability away in such a crucial time for the colony. If we are going to be at war soon, then a general is your best leader. |
As of post 3290:
Lynch Zinto 1 - Raven (3229) The Jackal 1 - Narcizo (3264) Elections Yes 4 - Narcizo (3246), The Jackal (3260), Grover (3270), GoldenEagle (3277) No 3 - Raven (3229), Sharkn20 (3238), Thomkal (3282) Actions Retrieve Communicator 1 - Raven (3229) Upgrade Research Center 2 - Sharkn20 (3237), Narcizo (3248) Design Upgrade Defense 2 - Grover (3251), The Jackal (3255) Explore Flatlands 0 Explore Heat Source 0 Explore Landing Site 0 |
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Why have you not yet voted for me? |
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Why do I have to vote for you? Why do you refuse to look at how my anti-Thom posts came after he was already elected? Why do you have blinders on? |
Raven it's looking more and more like you have an ulterior motive to target Zinto. I don't understand how you possibly can be as certain as you seem to be without evidence. If you're a villager but mistaken we'll be left chasing our tails for two more days and could be four villagers down by the end of it all. Not ideal. If you have anything you want to reveal to back up your case then now would be the time to do so. At the moment you're making me less willing to vote Zinto.
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What exactly would have you found by "looking" at Zinto? Everything in this game is based on hunches. You won't find any concrete evidence that points to one person or another. |
Raven, I understand that you're frustrated. You want to find out who is in the Resistance and The Seekers and who the Angel is as much as the rest of us. But putting yourself on this crusade of Raven vs. Zinto seems counterproductive and counterintuitive. Trying to force the colony to vote for and lynch you to prove your innocence is not going to help us survive.
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Raven I am seriously going to ask you to make the case for your timeline. When do you think people were recruited into the resistance? How do my posts line up with that timeline? I honestly believe if you do that your timeline will not work out.
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There is no PUBLIC EVIDENCE in this game!!! If anyone has any evidence at all, they are not revealing it to anyone publicly. It's all based on hunches. If I am a villager but mistaken, yes we learn nothing new, and I look like an idiot. If I am a villager but correct, we take out a member of The Resistance. If you don't want to vote for Zinto, then vote for me. If I die, you still learn nothing new - I 100% assure you of that. But you won't know that for certain unless you vote to lynch me. If you vote for neither me nor Zinto, you're basically putting a name in a hat and blindly drawing. |
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Clues cannot be deduced through voting patterns? A timeline of posts, etc, etc. If you're so sure of your hunch, you should be trying to back it up. Not throwing another member of this colony against the wall and hoping that he will stick. |
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