I have no doubt alan is the duke.

Howeven, Cronin was very clear there were roles with other abilities not published.

It seems Alan has his own agenda

Someone in a WW game, obsessive? :eek:

Anyway, was there a reason you didn't want to vote for Saldana when Alan mentioned it to Lathum 20 minutes before mentioning it to you?

The sorcerer picks a player to scan. The result will either be: Seer, cultist, or neither. Note also the sorcerer gets the same result for fake seer as real seer.

I'm biased, because I've agreed with Alan this whole game, but I think you're reaching here. Duke is listed under villager roles, and I don't think there are extra win conditions here -- I think that messes with the flow of cronin's draft idea.

Sorry, I'm just a tad overwhelmed today and Alan's being a butt-munch over afew minutes of time that make no damned difference either way. he's realizing he's been wrong here and for whatever reason he's clinging to his theories and looking for whatever little excuse to do so that he can.

ok, Deep breathe, end ranting, calm 2008 RendeR back in place.

Well I'm out until probably just past deadline. I need to get some food and then I have an appointment with my psychologist. Hopefully I won't find myself dead when I get back :)

hmmm

Alans ole maybe?

this seems familar to me.... but i cant find him saying it!

heh, thanks!

that may jst mean he can add a certain number of votes,.... or somethign.

should say Role

unless alan is a bullfighter

I don't think he was being a "butt-munch" about it. He seemed pretty cordial and understanding, based on a re-read of his post.

I'll ignore Render's swearing at me as my point to him still stands.

I've already said when I revealed that my role behaves a bit differently than you might expect and I still won't give the wolves the benefit of knowing what I can do, however I am the duke, which is a good guy role as listed by Cronin. Anyone trying to say otherwise has a different agenda.

Bleh, sorry I got out of hand guys. I'm just being pulled in too many directions today and my nerves are quite frazzeled

and you said butt munch :)

Catching up on what I missed while away.. yeah Lathum you're trying to mislead everyone to my point about you. At the time it was either a 3 way tie or something close (like Saldana being one vote behind). I said multiple times that I have no problem with a Saldana lynch but don't want to see Passacaglia lynched at least today. I told you if you so badly wanted to save Telle as you were indicating by threatening and attacking me I gave you the chance to move your vote to Saldana. Your vote + my vote on Sal would have easily put Telle out of immediate harm.

It seemed pretty clear to me that people were less worried about saving Telle than they were about trying to discredit me however.

And the fact that you have some personal agenda in this game is rather obvious and trumps the "I am a good guy role so I should be trusted" commentery.

YOU cannot be trusted unless we know what the agenda is and decide its in our best interests. Can you at least acknowledge that?


And I do apologize for the bitching, it wasn't necessary.

Out of curiosity who is my personal agenda with? Telle or Saldana or Lathum or you or whom?

This might be the first time in a while that anyone has accused me of being personal in a WW game :)

Can you give more information...not direct quotes, obviously, but what kind of wording???

i think hes implying that you have some scondary motive, like a major victory condidiotn.....

Then why are you defending pass? It was pretty obvious that many of us saw something worth lynching in his attitude and actions, so why are you, as the duke, defending him? You expect us all to give you definitives and reasons for what we're doing and have done and to take action to satisfy YOUR needs, its time to pony up.

Why are you defending Pass so strongly?

As for trying to discredit you, we're not, what we're seeing is you plaing some cloak and dagger game with us to get things your way, YOU are discrediting yourself. YOU are bringing the suspicion on YOURSELF, so defend your position. Stop the smoke and mirroes and tell us WTF you're on about.

personal agenda as in the game Alan, not personally. Stop tryin to confuse things even more than you have been.

I am the duke, and I win with the villagers.


You can see in the rules, my role is listed with the villagers. Anyone who is arguing otherwise is doing nothing more then trying to wreck a future villager COT from forming with doubt.

sndvls did a good job of giving an example

ok, now I believe you.

Great idea, we should just have all of the seers and bodyguard and everyone reveal on day 1 of every game. Since my trying to protect what I feel might be various hidden roles isn't a good thing here. I am getting tired of everyone trying to ask me to map out every move for the wolves. Some things just don't work very well if you don't catch people by suprise.

Then explain your actions because you're not acting normal. you're not always this stubborn and non-communicative. you're holding back information and thats not going to cut it.

dola- i think the Duke role is a prime choice for other abilities/ win conditions since once they are cleared as duke they tend to coast along

Have we ever played together? I am pretty sure that St.Cronin just spit out whatever drink he is drinking.

that would be a brandy old fashioned.

he likes them ALOT

:lol:

hes drinkign brandy at noon?

From wikipedia:

Ok, you've got two choices then:

1: come outwith ENOUGH information that we HAVE to trust you and can move forward

2: shut the hell up and stop confusing the rest of us.

Can you NOT understand that you're mucking up the entire situation with your "I can't tell you anything" bull? Come ON alan, stop acting like you think you know something. Your theories are not worth the lives of the villagers, not in this game and especially not after our first two days worth of losses.

You guys sure fight a lot for two people with their vote on the same person.

OK...trusting you, for now...

UNVOTE TELLE
VOTE SALDANA

If people don't want to vote with me, they don't have to. I'm not the one saying how stupid I must be for wanting to vote for someone else. I haven't been the one cussing, insulting and such today. I simply stated the two people I would like the lynch between today myself.

See the difference is people shouldn't have any reason to suspect my agenda like you and Lathum and Saldana keep trying to throw out there. They know I am good. Yes I might be mistaken or I might be correct, but it is not because of an agenda.. There is no one else in this game that can be said about.

*sigh* I've never seen you be this assinine in the face of overwhelming support to the contrary, yet you persist.

You know what. I'm done for today, I'll read up tomorrow. I'm fed up with trying to beat the truth into/out of Alan's thick skull today. He's wrong, he knows he wrongs and he'd rather spin me up and play games with the life of a villager than simply ove on to a more viable theory.

Bye.

wow I totally made that crap up too

Go Wisconsin!

I received this off-site, am posting it for him:

An hour before deadline and only 4 people in the thread????

Wow.

Not only that, no OlieRage? Come on, join the fun!

I think I pissed everyone off enough to leave me alone :cool:

yeah, its really dead!

I understand what you mean - I have suspicions about all 3 of the leading vote getters, but there's no real hard evidence on any of them. I may move my vote around just to keep it close enough to see what happens.

It's also Friday afternoon - I am done right at deadline so I won't be online til later tonight :)

I have my vote on someone other than the two main candidates. I don't think I'll move my vote to Telle as I don't see her as being more likely to be a wolf.

Which of the four of us are you forgetting?