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Galaxy 08-28-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1817931)
This should be interesting:


McCain should keep inviting Obama for his town hall, no moderator debates that he wants to do. Put the pressure on Obama. McCain just doesn't seem to know when to attack his opponents and do it pretty aggressively.

Jas_lov 08-28-2008 05:05 PM

They showed the new McCain ad on tv. McCain says congratulations to Obama, it's an historic night, and job well done.

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 07:38 PM

I wonder if Obama will walk up to the podium, salute and then declare, "Sen. Obama reporting for duty"? :)

ace1914 08-28-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818238)
I wonder if Obama will walk up to the podium, salute and then declare, "Sen. Obama reporting for duty"? :)


What would be hilarious is if he ended his speech with.......

Can you dig it????

molson 08-28-2008 07:48 PM

I'd go with:

"FINALLY, Barack as RETURNED to Denver....."

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ace1914 (Post 1818241)
What would be hilarious is if he ended his speech with.......

Can you dig it????


That would be cool. But as the way things have gone this week, every single word, every single motion and every single visual will be fully approved ahead of time by a committee.

JonInMiddleGA 08-28-2008 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ace1914 (Post 1818241)
What would be hilarious is if he ended his speech with.......Can you dig it????


Right idea, wrong catchphrase.

sabotai 08-28-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1818254)
Right idea, wrong catchphrase.


If you SMEEEELLLLLLLL what BARACK is cooking!

molson 08-28-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1818264)
If you SMEEEELLLLLLLL what BARACK is cooking!


This is a pretty painfully awkward :56 seconds.


Buccaneer 08-28-2008 08:16 PM

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Set to air in key campaign states to coincide with Barack Obama's formal acceptance of the Democratic presidential nomination, the Arizona senator is featured looking directly into the camera to congratulate his presidential rival.

"Senator Obama, this is truly a good day for America," McCain says in the ad. "Too often the achievements of our opponents go unnoticed. So I wanted to stop and say, congratulations."

"How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day," McCain also says in reference to the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s 'I Have a Dream' speech. "Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight Senator, job well done."


hmmm... Too bad the favor can't be returned. Nothing historic about an old white guy running for president.

cartman 08-28-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818238)
I wonder if Obama will walk up to the podium, salute and then declare, "Sen. Obama reporting for duty"? :)


Are you now channeling MBBF for your predictions?

:D

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1818281)
Are you now channeling MBBF for your predictions?

:D


I kind of skim over his posts, don't you? ;)

JPhillips 08-28-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818277)
hmmm... Too bad the favor can't be returned. Nothing historic about an old white guy running for president.


Favor my ass. McCain is running the commercial because it keeps him in the media eye. It wouldn't shock me at all to see some sort of congratulations commercial from Obama, but it won't be a favor either.

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1818289)
Favor my ass. McCain is running the commercial because it keeps him in the media eye. It wouldn't shock me at all to see some sort of congratulations commercial from Obama, but it won't be a favor either.


Now why didn't I think of that.

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 08:36 PM

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Upon arriving in Dayton, Ohio, Thursday evening, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate was asked on the airport tarmac who he has selected for the No. 2 job.

“Wilford Brimley,” McCain deadpanned.



Cool. He can get everyone eating oatmeal again.

Raiders Army 08-28-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 1818274)
This is a pretty painfully awkward :56 seconds.


Posers.

Tigercat 08-28-2008 09:38 PM

Wilford Brimley can get shit done, Dick Chaney style. He whooped some ass in The Firm.

cartman 08-28-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 1818350)
Wilford Brimley can get shit done, Dick Chaney style. He whooped some ass in The Firm.


But he had to shut it all down in "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins".

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 09:58 PM

I love how they keep referring to Invesco Field as "Mile High Stadium." Keith Olbermann started it last night and ever since then, they've seemingly decided to ignore it. But whatever works.

As for the whole "this convention was supposed to show him as a regular guy and this big rally is failing," that logic is really stupid, even if the pundits and the partisans will keep pushing it. Looking at those crowds, save for the pols and the random Hollywood types mixed in, all I see is a horde of just ordinary people.

Getting that many people energized to do anything, much less listen to a political speech, is a pretty big deal.

If this was overseas and we were watching these rallies, we'd talk about the swarms of people desiring a change in direction in that country.

Here we say "he's not an ordinary guy. He can't connect."

If this was Belarus or something, we'd call it the "Change Revolution" or something.

No, I'm still not voting for him. But this stuff is still crazy.

DaddyTorgo 08-28-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1818362)
I love how they keep referring to Invesco Field as "Mile High Stadium." Keith Olbermann started it last night and ever since then, they've seemingly decided to ignore it. But whatever works.

As for the whole "this convention was supposed to show him as a regular guy and this big rally is failing," that logic is really stupid, even if the pundits and the partisans will keep pushing it. Looking at those crowds, save for the pols and the random Hollywood types mixed in, all I see is a horde of just ordinary people.

Getting that many people energized to do anything, much less listen to a political speech, is a pretty big deal.

If this was overseas and we were watching these rallies, we'd talk about the swarms of people desiring a change in direction in that country.

Here we say "he's not an ordinary guy. He can't connect."

If this was Belarus or something, we'd call it the "Change Revolution" or something.

No, I'm still not voting for him. But this stuff is still crazy.


aaah, just vote for him already

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1818365)
aaah, just vote for him already


Nope.

Can't do that. It's like rooting for a team you're not a fan of. Just because you're not gonna root for them, you can appreciate the story.

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1818367)
Nope.

Can't do that. It's like rooting for a team you're not a fan of. Just because you're not gonna root for them, you can appreciate the story.


+1

+2 - actually I'll give another bump for him beating the Clintons. That took balls.

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 10:36 PM

"Free ponies! Free ponies for everyone! Ponies for America! All Americans deserve the right to have a pony."

Raiders Army 08-28-2008 10:37 PM

I dunno. I wanna punch Michelle in the mouth and fix her underbite.

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 10:43 PM

Working for the Tribune Company, I found this interesting...

SHOWDOWN: Obama campaign confronts talkradio station over 'right-wing hatchet man'

After all the media anal probes presidents have received for the past two and one half decades, Obama sure seems thin-skinned when it comes to criticism from what he and his followers consider the opposition.

If he wins, hopefully some world leader doesn't insult him.

"Did you hear what that cat, Ahmadinejad, said about me the other day? It is time for you, my followers, to take action..."

Obamanation..."Yes we can...here we come Iran."

Chief Rum 08-28-2008 10:44 PM

Obama should ask Kobe how his ass tastes. That should secure the basketball hater vote in every state except California, and the Dems are too far ahead in CA to lose it. :)

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 10:45 PM

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"Change happens because the American people demand it -- because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time," he will say.

Some "American people" are also demanding changes that neither party can deliver.

"Rise up and insist on new leadership" - Yes.

"New ideas" - Probably, but I haven't heard of many, unless "reversal" are considered new ideas.

"New politics" - Give me a break. This week and next will be anything but new politics. The "American people" are not ready for new politics, they just want to change the channel.

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 10:48 PM

Yeah, the media will probably herald this speech as decisive. I don't really find it anything more than a trumped up stump speech. The massive crowd was necessary, because otherwise, it'd look just like his other rallies. He needed to one up that considerably and this does that by the optics of it all.

That said, all he's saying is the same retread Demo platform stuff. The fact of the matter is, he's giving Johnny Mac more free advertising by saying his name a ton more than anything. You notice McCain almost never says his name. He just generally says "my opponent."

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818407)
Some "American people" are also demanding changes that neither party can deliver.
.


+1

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818403)
Working for the Tribune Company, I found this interesting...

SHOWDOWN: Obama campaign confronts talkradio station over 'right-wing hatchet man'

After all the media anal probes presidents have received for the past two and one half decades, Obama sure seems thin-skinned when it comes to criticism from what he and his followers consider the opposition.

If he wins, hopefully some world leader doesn't insult him.

"Did you hear what that cat, Ahmadinejad, said about me the other day? It is time for you, my followers, to take action..."

Obamanation..."Yes we can...here we come Iran."



Sounds like we don't want a leader that is too thick skinned (i.e., too stubborn to change) or too thin skinned either (i.e., too reactive). But then again, those that have too little experience in Washington tend to rely more on others to think and react in their stead (as we saw with Carter and Bush2).

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 10:50 PM

It has been my experience, Republicans and Democrats say what needs to be said to energize their voters during the election cycle...but once they get to Washington, there really isn't much difference in how the govern.

Chief Rum 08-28-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1818410)
Yeah, the media will probably herald this speech as decisive. I don't really find it anything more than a trumped up stump speech. The massive crowd was necessary, because otherwise, it'd look just like his other rallies. He needed to one up that considerably and this does that by the optics of it all.

That said, all he's saying is the same retread Demo platform stuff. The fact of the matter is, he's giving Johnny Mac more free advertising by saying his name a ton more than anything. You notice McCain almost never says his name. He just generally says "my opponent."


So did he say what he would do to bring about change? I mean, besides "save the poor", "tax the rich", "balance the budget", "universal health care" and "save social security"?

I am looking for something between "I will do nothing" and "I will write a great novel", like "I will write the first page in my first year."

Chief Rum 08-28-2008 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818414)
It has been my experience, Republicans and Democrats say what needs to be said to energize their voters during the election cycle...but once they get to Washington, there really isn't much difference in how the govern.


:withstupid:

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818414)
It has been my experience, Republicans and Democrats say what needs to be said to energize their voters during the election cycle...but once they get to Washington, there really isn't much difference in how the govern.


Except for one thing (and this is the big thing for me) - a single-party Legislature/Executive will be different than a split-party Legislature/Executive.

Galaxy 08-28-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818414)
It has been my experience, Republicans and Democrats say what needs to be said to energize their voters during the election cycle...but once they get to Washington, there really isn't much difference in how the govern.


Yep. And I think we all get sucked into it.

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 10:57 PM

How about, "I will do something that should have been done following the First World War, I will work to appeal the Sixteenth Amendment and forever abolish the federal personal income tax."

I'd launch a grass roots effort to abolish presidential term limits for such an individual.

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 10:58 PM

Wonder how Brooks and Dunn feel about their song being used...

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818425)
How about, "I will do something that should have been done following the First World War, I will work to appeal the Sixteenth Amendment and forever abolish the federal personal income tax."

I'd launch a grass roots effort to abolish presidential term limits for such an individual.


I think the American People would like a Free Pony better.

Chief Rum 08-28-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818425)
How about, "I will do something that should have been done following the First World War, I will work to appeal the Sixteenth Amendment and forever abolish the federal personal income tax."

I'd launch a grass roots effort to abolish presidential term limits for such an individual.


That's a dream sequence, right? He didn't really say that.

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818417)
Except for one thing (and this is the big thing for me) - a single-party Legislature/Executive will be different than a split-party Legislature/Executive.


Yeah, but it usually only takes one presidential term or two of whatever party is in control of the entire wad to screw things up so badly that partisan gridlock is finally restored to the government. :)

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1818432)
That's a dream sequence, right? He didn't really say that.


Yes...that would be my dream candidate!

And no, I don't expect any Democrat candidate to say anything close to that in my lifetime.

cartman 08-28-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1818431)
I think the American People would like a Free Pony better.


Considering the average pony costs between $600 and $1200, they've already gotten that this year.

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 11:07 PM

Man...I didn't realize ponies were that cheap!

JPhillips 08-28-2008 11:07 PM

If my daughter finds out I could have bought a pony instead of a television I'm in big trouble.

Buccaneer 08-28-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1818436)
Considering the average pony costs between $600 and $1200, they've already gotten that this year.


That's a really good point.

Instead of one big wad, I would vote for having everyone getting $100 less taken out of their paychecks each month.

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 1818445)
If my daughter finds out I could have bought a pony instead of a television I'm in big trouble.


luckily for me ... my daughter is past the age of wanting a pony.

unluckily for me ... now she wants a new car.

cartman 08-28-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818444)
Man...I didn't realize ponies were that cheap!


Yeah, they are cheap to buy, but ongoing upkeep is a bitch. Kinda like interest payments on a massive amount of debt.

Young Drachma 08-28-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1818452)
Yeah, they are cheap to buy, but ongoing upkeep is a bitch. Kinda like interest payments on a massive amount of debt.


ALL AMERICANS DESERVE A PONIES. NOT JUST THE RICHEST AMERICANS DESERVES PONIES.

PONIES ARE AN INALIENABLE RIGHT!

NO SUBPRIME LOANS FOR PONIES!

SFL Cat 08-28-2008 11:26 PM

Heh...the Pony Upkeep Crisis. We need the government to do something to help us take care of our ponies.

cartman 08-28-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat (Post 1818464)
Heh...the Pony Upkeep Crisis. We need the government to do something to help us take care of our ponies.


Don't worry. A no-bid contract has been awarded to Halliburton to provide for the ponies.


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