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NobodyHere 01-30-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3229985)
Foxconn's Wisconsin cash grab just keeps getting better. Now they may not have even 1000 jobs by 2020 and an executive said that you can't look at the Wisconsin investment as a factory.


Were there any safeguards at all in this deal for the taxpayers?

lungs 01-30-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3229985)
Foxconn's Wisconsin cash grab just keeps getting better. Now they may not have even 1000 jobs by 2020 and an executive said that you can't look at the Wisconsin investment as a factory.


And the Republican Assembly leader said the reason is because we got rid of Scott Walker.

RainMaker 01-30-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3230027)
Were there any safeguards at all in this deal for the taxpayers?


Not many. Looks like it just gets prorated down. So the state will pay $230,000 per job and Foxconn doesn't have to create the number of jobs they promised. A sweet deal.

Amazon sort of did something similar when they split their HQ2 up. They got the subsidies for say 50,000 new jobs and then told the state they'll only make 25,000 but get the full subsidy.

This is going to be a common tactic by companies going forward. Promise a ton of jobs, get huge subsidy, scale back what they planned to do and pocket the massive subsidy that was based on the original job number.

RainMaker 01-30-2019 05:16 PM

I should add that Foxconn pulls this shit all the time. They've been doing it for a decade now. Only the dumbest fucking people on the planet fall for it. So I guess congrats to Scott Walker and people who voted for him. You couldn't run a simple Google search.

SackAttack 01-31-2019 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3230036)
And the Republican Assembly leader said the reason is because we got rid of Scott Walker.


He also said that giving Walker the authority to do deals like that independent of the legislature was a mistake because they don't trust Tony Evers so they need(ed) to take that authority away before he could use it.

Shameless.

lungs 01-31-2019 09:50 AM

Now FoxConn isn't just changing focus of what they are doing in WI, they are suspending all work on the project.

Blast that Tony Evers for ruining this project!

QuikSand 01-31-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3227119)
I know it's folly to continue to fall for the ongoing mess here, but I sometimes am just too weak to overcome it...

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "....The United States looses soooo much money on Trade with Mexico under NAFTA, over 75 Billion Dollars a year (not including Drug Money which would be many times that amount), that I would consider closing the Southern Border a “profit making operation.” We build a Wall or....."

The man genuinely believes that a trade deficit means we are just handing the other country cash. That we are "losing money."

We buy stuff from Mexico because we (American people and companies) WANT the stuff from Mexico more than we want the money. They are not robbing us. They are BENEFITING us.

It is not necessarily a good thing to have a trade deficit with a given country... but it bears absolutely no relationship with the sort of "deal" he seems to think it is. He treats it like we're haggling price over the land for a new hotel... and that it's a pure zero sum game on "who gets the money." Trade isn't anything like that, and thinking about it that way (using that term very loosely) is unbelievably ill-advised (also using the back end of that term very loosely).

I understand that this isn't really even in the top 10 or maybe top 50 of things to really worry about. But it's totally awful.


Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Trump downplays the national debt increasing under his watch: "Well, the trade deals won't kick in for a while."… "

sigh

JPhillips 01-31-2019 02:50 PM

Regarding the deficit, it's hard to figure out if he's running a con or if he's the one being conned.

QuikSand 01-31-2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3230127)
Regarding the deficit, it's hard to figure out if he's running a con or if he's the one being conned.



QuikSand 01-31-2019 03:30 PM

Along similar lines -- topics that piss off someone like me and presumably not too many others:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...c-rss_20190131

Holy shit does that fire me up. It's possible there's more to the story, but the first impression is a putrid one.

BishopMVP 01-31-2019 03:46 PM

The initial EEOC complaint was over height discrimination because she's a dwarf? Did not see that twist coming, but maybe that odd detail will help this story gain or maintain traction.

And considering "two officials who did not want to be identified confirmed Klein moved the files to a high shelf" I can assume they're not done trying to plug leaks...

JPhillips 01-31-2019 03:56 PM


kingfc22 01-31-2019 04:25 PM

Glad to know publicly available testimony on video from the Intelligence Chiefs was completely manipulated and altered by the Deep State Fake News.

Can we just skip to the part of the film where everyone needs to greet the orange clown with Heil Trump?

Edward64 01-31-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3230145)
Glad to know publicly available testimony on video from the Intelligence Chiefs was completely manipulated and altered by the Deep State Fake News.

Can we just skip to the part of the film where everyone needs to greet the orange clown with Heil Trump?



Per Trump, they told him they were misquoted, taken out of context etc. Should be interesting what Coats and Haspel say in public next (to the inevitable questions)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/polit...pel/index.html
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President Donald Trump claimed Thursday that his intelligence chiefs, including Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA Director Gina Haspel, told him that they were misquoted when they publicly contradicted him during public on-camera testimony.

He made the claim a day after he tweeted that "Intelligence should go back to school!"

"They said they were totally misquoted and totally taken out of context," Trump said when asked by CNN if he raised the testimony with Coats and Haspel during his daily briefing on Thursday.

"They said it was fake news," Trump said.

The President did not provide examples of the areas the intelligence chiefs said they were misquoted. Their testimony was televised, and their written assessment of global threats was made public.

cuervo72 01-31-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3230152)
Per Trump



JPhillips 01-31-2019 10:11 PM





Another thing that would be a huge scandal for any other president but will be lost in mountain of Trump's corruption.

QuikSand 02-01-2019 03:25 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6e27ef0db212

Ben E Lou 02-01-2019 03:47 PM

Holy hell



Ben E Lou 02-01-2019 04:10 PM

Heh.



Radii 02-01-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3230214)


"we had huge surpluses with Mexico. With NAFTA, we have huge deficits. We lose $100 billion a year on trade with Mexico. Does that sound good? And this has been going on for many years. So I stopped it. I stopped it a lot."


"I stopped it a lot" is just such a mind numbing stupid thing to say. I know Trump says mind numbing stupid things every single time he opens his mouth, but even with my expectations as low as I thought they could go when reading an article about things the man said, that made me stop and shake my head.

RainMaker 02-01-2019 05:21 PM

The reason you have a trade deficit is because you are a more prosperous country. We had trade surpluses during the Great Depression. During the last big recession our trade deficit dropped a ton.

It also completely ignores foreign investment. Something that goes up when you have a trade deficit.

This is basic economics.

albionmoonlight 02-01-2019 05:24 PM

What in the actual fuck was going on in yearbook publishing in the 1980s?

JPhillips 02-01-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3230224)
What in the actual fuck was going on in yearbook publishing in the 1980s?


This.

What happens when the VA Gov resigns? Who even is the Lt. Gov.?

molson 02-01-2019 06:50 PM


JPhillips 02-01-2019 07:22 PM

The first polling on Schultz is out. Over half don't know him, but among those that do he has a 4% approval rating. Even more amazing is that it's 4% for Dems, 4% for GOPers and 4% for independents.

JPhillips 02-01-2019 07:24 PM

dola

And Northam is toast now as the NAACP has just called for his resignation.

BishopMVP 02-01-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3230224)
What in the actual fuck was going on in yearbook publishing in the 1980s?

This wasn't even a HS yearbook, it was a Medical School one?!?

cuervo72 02-01-2019 07:37 PM

Wife and I were wondering what colleges (let alone med schools) even HAD yearbooks.

miami_fan 02-01-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3230243)
Wife and I were wondering what colleges (let alone med schools) even HAD yearbooks.


I had the same thought

stevew 02-01-2019 08:03 PM

My college had a yearbook

cuervo72 02-01-2019 08:52 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/o...athy-tran.html

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Things only escalated on Wednesday, when Gov. Ralph Northam was asked about the uproar during an appearance on a radio show. Northam, a pediatric neurologist by training, spoke about what actually happens when a woman goes into labor with a fetus that has severe deformities and may not be viable. The infant, he said, would be delivered and kept comfortable, and the family would decide about resuscitation.

My wife (steadfastly R) watched clips of Northam's interview and immediately said that no, what he was talking about wasn't abortion but palliative care (she's a NICU nurse).

Edward64 02-01-2019 10:18 PM

Wow, there's a lot of apathy here. No/hardly mention of Booker or Harris recent announcements.

Thomkal 02-01-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3230262)
Wow, there's a lot of apathy here. No/hardly mention of Booker or Harris recent announcements.



Not apathy, there is a lot of time before that election-enough to see how they are going to handle Trump in the meantime. There's a couple unexpected running like Marianne Williamson, author and Oprah's spiritual advisor


Marianne Williamson, Oprah’s spiritual adviser, is running for president - Vox


not holding out much hope for her getting far, but I would have said the same for Trump too.

Radii 02-02-2019 12:06 AM

Our country is a fucking joke. Jesus Christ.

JPhillips 02-02-2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3230262)
Wow, there's a lot of apathy here. No/hardly mention of Booker or Harris recent announcements.


Literally every member of the Democratic party is running, so I expect each announcement will get little interest unless there's a big surprise.

GrantDawg 02-02-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3230281)
Literally every member of the Democratic party is running, so I expect each announcement will get little interest unless there's a big surprise.





That is the way I am feeling. Some who have announced are interesting. and all of them have their flaws. It is going to be sometime before we can even so who will gain traction, and who will almost immediately run out of money and drop.

GrantDawg 02-02-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3230227)
This.

What happens when the VA Gov resigns? Who even is the Lt. Gov.?




nvm. Article I read was incorrect. It is Justin Fairfax.

RainMaker 02-02-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3230240)
This wasn't even a HS yearbook, it was a Medical School one?!?


That was the strangest part for me. Why does a medical school have a yearbook and why would you put that in it?

Also this is the kind of headline that lets you know its a bad day for your political career.


JPhillips 02-02-2019 12:46 PM

Now Northam is saying he isn't in the picture. But yesterday he apologized for being in the picture. Was he involved in so many racist photo shoots that he can't remember when he was a character and when he wasn't? That doesn't seem like a helpful defense.

NobodyHere 02-02-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3230298)
Now Northam is saying he isn't in the picture. But yesterday he apologized for being in the picture. Was he involved in so many racist photo shoots that he can't remember when he was a character and when he wasn't? That doesn't seem like a helpful defense.


Yeah, this is a textbook example of how NOT to handle a PR crisis.

Ben E Lou 02-02-2019 01:42 PM

Apparently he had a 1 PM press conference scheduled to announce his resignation and then he scrapped that. What an absolute dumpster fire.

NobodyHere 02-02-2019 01:44 PM

I bet Trump is loving this. He could shoot a white person on 5th Ave and the media would give it very little coverage.

Chief Rum 02-02-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3230303)
I bet Trump is loving this. He could shoot a white person on 5th Ave and the media would give it very little coverage.


Rip Van Winkle I presume and you been sleeping the past three years? I get your point, but terrible analogy. Trump can't sneeze and not have it over-covered by all media.

GrantDawg 02-02-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3230298)
Now Northam is saying he isn't in the picture. But yesterday he apologized for being in the picture. Was he involved in so many racist photo shoots that he can't remember when he was a character and when he wasn't? That doesn't seem like a helpful defense.





I just have a hard time believing he didn't see the picture before he apologized, and I also don't think I would have to ask friends to make sure it wasn't me in the picture. If he did, then he should resign anyway as a complete moron.

Lathum 02-02-2019 02:39 PM

Judge much guys?

Like you all never got black out drunk in college and dressed in KKK garb?

Drake 02-02-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3230307)
Judge much guys?

Like you all never got black out drunk in college and dressed in KKK garb?


:devil:

NobodyHere 02-02-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3230307)
Judge much guys?

Like you all never got black out drunk in college and dressed in KKK garb?


Yeah, next they'll be saying dressing as Michael Jackson (including darkening your face) is wrong.

stevew 02-02-2019 04:27 PM

I guess I am of the era where you could dress up like Michael Jackson without using blackface and you'd be just fine. he must be thriller era?

albionmoonlight 02-02-2019 06:18 PM

I lack the capacity to really understand what it must’ve been like to be an African-American man in medical school—the pinnacle of our educational system—in the 1980’s and to have to excel academically while this culture was going on all around you.

albionmoonlight 02-02-2019 06:39 PM

‪Would you be completely shocked if at least one Dem 2020 contender’s campaign has reached out to Northam’s people asking him to hold off on resigning until the candidate can issue a statement demanding his resignation?‬


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