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RainMaker 01-25-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3229688)
Bail set for Stone at $250,000 and he is limited in his travels to FL, NY, DC, and VA


Not really. It was a personal assurance bond. One of the perks of being a rich, powerful dude in our justice system.

Now if you get caught stealing a Snickers bar and don't have connections, then you have to put up money.

Atocep 01-25-2019 12:13 PM

Sounds like Trump may be caving on the border wall, at least temporarily, and is willing to reopen the government while more talks take place. Which means this entire thing was pointless as that was the deal floated before the shutdown started.

Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.

albionmoonlight 01-25-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3229694)
Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.


And to get Roger Stone off the front page.

PilotMan 01-25-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 3229691)
I used to travel to Parsippany for work by flying into Newark. It has to be the worst airport in America.



I wouldn't say that anymore. A lot of money has been poured into the airport and with the construction of a new concourse opening in 2 years, it's much improved from where it was 10 years ago.

spleen1015 01-25-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3229694)
Sounds like Trump may be caving on the border wall, at least temporarily, and is willing to reopen the government while more talks take place. Which means this entire thing was pointless as that was the deal floated before the shutdown started.

Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.


That's my take, too. This morning it still looked like there was no end in sight. Now this afternoon they are nearing a deal.

If it was this easy, why not do it before the shutdown even starts?

Lathum 01-25-2019 12:29 PM

11:00 out of Orlando. Arriving 1:45 into Newark.

JPhillips 01-25-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3229697)
I wouldn't say that anymore. A lot of money has been poured into the airport and with the construction of a new concourse opening in 2 years, it's much improved from where it was 10 years ago.


Newark isn't even the worst in the metro area. (I'm looking at you LaGuardia.)

AlexB 01-25-2019 12:39 PM

I do like Stone thinking the best way to demonstrate his loyalty to Trump was to pose in the stance associated with Nixon...

I was gonna post an image of the double Vs, but he’s done it a few times before. Maybe a genius subliminal ‘Come and Get Me’ plea to Mueller to show that despite his pledges of loyalty to Trump, Stone is prepared to show that Trump is as dirty as Nixon?

SackAttack 01-25-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3229703)
I do like Stone thinking the best way to demonstrate his loyalty to Trump was to pose in the stance associated with the only President to be impeached while in office...

I was gonna post an image of the double Vs, but he’s done it a few times before. Maybe a genius subliminal ‘Come and Get Me’ plea to Mueller to show that despite his pledges of loyalty to Trump, Stone is prepared to show that Trump is as dirty as Nixon?


I'm sorry, what?

Two Presidents have been impeached (neither removed from office), and Dick Nixon wasn't one of them.

AlexB 01-25-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 3229704)
I'm sorry, what?

Two Presidents have been impeached (neither removed from office), and Dick Nixon wasn't one of them.


My bad, edited so that the gist of the message remains - I was sure that was a fact :redface:

Dola edit - aha: only President to resign from office, not impeached.

cartman 01-25-2019 01:26 PM

When you want a wall but you get a cave.

albionmoonlight 01-25-2019 01:26 PM

Trump announces deal to re-open for three weeks.

Thanks federal workers for their sacrificing and for not complaining (in fact, we apparently kept calling Trump to urge him to keep not paying us. Who knew?)

Now going on a long speech about how awesome walls are. I guess you have to give him that. He does seem to have figured out that "Coyote" does not actually refer to a small furry animal in the immigration context, so I guess that's something, too.

albionmoonlight 01-25-2019 01:31 PM

Apparently human traffickers are smart enough to know whether to turn left or right to get into the United States depending on which way they are facing so we need a wall to stop people that sophisticated.

(And now I'm gonna stop listening because he just said that human trafficking is worse that it has ever been in human history while standing in the garden of a house built with slave labor.)

sabotai 01-25-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3229673)
And his lawyer already complaining about the SWAT team waking stone up at 6 am to arrest him. Awww poor baby.


That made me think of this from Chapelle's Show (obviously NSFW): Chappelle's Show - Tron Carter's "Law & Order" - Uncensored - YouTube

bronconick 01-25-2019 02:03 PM

I hope he signs this before Ann Coulter calls him a pussy again.

Thomkal 01-25-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3229693)
Not really. It was a personal assurance bond. One of the perks of being a rich, powerful dude in our justice system.

Now if you get caught stealing a Snickers bar and don't have connections, then you have to put up money.



How about a Twix bar then-just the right side of course :)

Thomkal 01-25-2019 02:20 PM

Stone will be interviewed on Tucker Carlson's show tonight, where I am sure he will confess everything..

Schmidty 01-25-2019 02:29 PM

I’m just glad it’s over. This has been a massive clusterfuck. I don’t care which side is actually to blame, they are all fucking, selfish assholes.

Edward64 01-25-2019 02:33 PM

If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020

Unless there has been more progress made than we know, I wouldn't think 3 weeks is enough time

Lathum 01-25-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty (Post 3229715)
I’m just glad it’s over. This has been a massive clusterfuck. I don’t care which side is actually to blame, they are all fucking, selfish assholes.


One group is selfish and one is doing right by the American people. I’ll let you decided.

Radii 01-25-2019 02:38 PM

With all of the insane shit happening recently, I feel like we've glossed over one of the worst:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...rruled-n962221

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Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top-secret clearance for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information


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Kushner's FBI background check identified questions about his family's business, his foreign contacts, his foreign travel and meetings he had during the campaign


Trump has appointed at least 30 people who were recommended for rejection of security clearances, but a Trump appointee apparently has the power to completely ignore those recommendations and approve them anyway. Awesome.

Kodos 01-25-2019 03:01 PM

He's the Law & Order President, of course.

kingfc22 01-25-2019 03:06 PM

How many golf trips will he take over the next 3 weeks?

bronconick 01-25-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3229713)
Stone will be interviewed on Tucker Carlson's show tonight, where I am sure he will confess everything..


Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.

Thomkal 01-25-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3229727)
Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.



I'll be glued to my seat! (not)

larrymcg421 01-25-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3229716)
If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020


What? No. I'm as big a fan of Nancy Pelosi as there is, but that's a terrible idea.

Radii 01-25-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3229727)
Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.


Two of my least favorite people in the world. Holy cow no thanks.

digamma 01-25-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3229716)
If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020


You're definitely the funniest poster on the board. This is a great one!

Thomkal 01-25-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3229711)
I hope he signs this before Ann Coulter calls him a pussy again.



Too late?


Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.

Thomkal 01-25-2019 08:35 PM

Trump signs bill to end the shutdown

NobodyHere 01-25-2019 08:37 PM

I guess rich people not being able to fly was the tipping point?

RainMaker 01-25-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3229740)
Too late?


Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.


HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.

Thomkal 01-25-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3229744)
HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.



Well she thought a draft dodger was the best President ever until today, so no surprise she wasn't a fan of Bush.

SackAttack 01-25-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3229740)
Too late?


Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.


He never was. Sorry, Ann.

Edward64 01-25-2019 09:55 PM

I'm okay if they want to apologize in making a premature statement but its weird them saying they were being "bullied". I'm sure there was pressure but com'on.

Just say we made a mistake without seeing the whole video etc., we want to see how the investigation plays out before making any decisions.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/us/co...ogy/index.html
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A Catholic diocese in Kentucky said Friday it was "bullied and pressured" into a making a premature statement about a viral video showing a confrontation between a Native American elder and a Catholic school student, according to a letter the diocese's bishop wrote to parents.

The Rev. Roger J. Foys said in the letter that the leadership of the Diocese of Covington was "being pressured from all sides to make a statement" about the video clip.

"We are sorry that this situation has caused such disruption in the lives of so many," Foys wrote. "We apologize to anyone who has been offended in any way of our statements which were made with good will based on the information we had. We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement prematurely, and we take full responsibility for it."

Foys wrote he especially wanted to apologize to Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann -- the teen featured prominently in the video -- his family and all the Covington families affected by the video.

"Nicholas unfortunately has become the face of these allegations based on video clips. This is not fair. It is not just," Foys wrote.

JPhillips 01-25-2019 09:58 PM

No acceptance that the kids still did some objectionable things. This whole scenario teaches that you can probably talk your way out of anything that gets you into trouble.

Edward64 01-25-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421 (Post 3229729)
What? No. I'm as big a fan of Nancy Pelosi as there is, but that's a terrible idea.


Serious question, why?

NobodyHere 01-25-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3229749)
Serious question, why?


Does she appeal to places like Michigan or Wisconsin?

lungs 01-25-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3229750)
Does she appeal to places like Michigan or Wisconsin?


She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.

Edward64 01-25-2019 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3229752)
She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.


Similar to your thoughts, if Pelosi proves effective against Trump (can keep Dems aligned, can play the GOP against each other etc.) she would seem to be a good contender.

Brian Swartz 01-26-2019 02:26 AM

The point as I understand is that there's a difference between being a good congressional leader and being a good president. There's a reasonable argument that the skillsets required are mutually exclusive. I think you can be a good Senator and a good President - but maybe not a good Speaker/Majority Leader.

PilotMan 01-26-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3229748)
No acceptance that the kids still did some objectionable things. This whole scenario teaches that you can probably talk your way out of anything that gets you into trouble.


trupm taught us that 3 years ago, this only reinforces it.

PilotMan 01-26-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3229752)
She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.


Pretty much what the right was saying about McConnell during the Obama presidency.

stevew 01-26-2019 08:13 AM

Pelosi is older than Bernie fwiw.

JPhillips 01-26-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3229749)
Serious question, why?


Look at the response to Trump's speech she did with Schumer. She's not a great campaigner and struggles with messaging.

Edward64 01-26-2019 08:47 AM

Sure, others are more charismatic.

But she is the best chance to counter Trump the remaining 2 years and if she does that effectively I think she deserves the shot if she wants it (which she probably does not).

TBH, I would value someone that knows how to play the game, has built up relationships across the aisle, knows how to negotiate politically etc.

Don't know much about her foreign policy stance and she is probably too left for me though.

JPhillips 01-26-2019 09:11 AM

But deserves has nothing to do with it. She wouldn't win a primary.

Drake 01-26-2019 09:23 AM

I wouldn't vote for her.

I think of Pelosi like the Renee Zellweger of politics. I fucking hate Renee Zellweger. Every time I see her, I want to punch her in her stupid face. I hate her so much, I can't even watch Cold Mountain, and that movie has Nicole Kidman NAKED. Zellweger fucking ruins it.

And yet, I agree with the consensus that she's a brilliant and talented actress.

That's how I feel about Pelosi as a politician.

sabotai 01-26-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3229744)
HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.


That didn't stop Newsweek from (sorta) calling him a wimp on the cover of their magazine (which is I think what Thomkal was referencing?). Full disclosure, I only know about because Bill Hicks had a bit about it.

Thomkal 01-26-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 3229765)
That didn't stop Newsweek from (sorta) calling him a wimp on the cover of their magazine (which is I think what Thomkal was referencing?). Full disclosure, I only know about because Bill Hicks had a bit about it.



That was Ann Coulter who called him the biggest wimp.


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