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Thomkal 03-02-2015 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3005765)
Given the circumstances of the secret vote I have 2 theories. Trying to conform these to what I know about WW so I may be dead wrong.

Theory 1
Resistance lead by Font formed after losing the leadership vote, members probably include a few people that voted for font.
Seekers - The current faction in charge lead by Thomkal seeks to remain in power - members probably include a few people that voted for Thomkal
Angel of Mercy - Serial Killer
Colonists - Everyone else


Theory 2
Resistance - Lead by Font, same as theory 1
Seekers - There were abstainers in the original vote towards the end, this could be a group that didn't vote for either Thomkal or Font.
Angel of Mercy - Serial Killer from the beginning of the game
Colonists - Everyone else led by Thomkal

I'm not sure what the end game is for any of these groups. I would imagine it has something to do with dispatching the other groups and maybe obtaining the leadership role? Maybe the surviving colonists can win with the resistance or the seekers? Going to guess the angel of mercy will need to be lynched at some point however.

Anyhow, that is what I have at this point regarding how i think the game is shaping out.

Well Theory 2 is closer to correct I think as I am not a member of the Seekers for sure or any other group that I am aware of.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005812)
Is everyone agreed that Shoveler is the seer then? What with the Suicane thing and whatnot. Why on Ea ... Mars is he still alive then? OK I can maybe buy Britrock wanting to keep Shoveler alive so he could scan him but shouldn't he have been the first nightkill target?

Unfortunately with everyone knowing that you've scanned Suicane, you're not likely to get much information by sitting on the result Shoveler. Generally it would be the correct play to try and get information but that's not going to happen here.

I'm going to assume that Suicane is villager for my purposes as if he turns up wolf then he's going to get strung up today whatever I say. If that information is forthcoming before about 15:00 EST then I'll switch my order. Otherwise we have a strong motive for keeping Suicane alive as he'll be a cleared villager.

heal Suicane

i don't understand this post. narc is also pushing a lot of theories about people. He did say he knew some stuff about people. no idea what.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3005824)
Unless I am wrong and that was a one time thing. But it seemed like the two deputies for Thom gained a block and a scan after he took power.

they did?

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005826)
I'm reconsidering about Jackal. It looks as though the Fonti-led team whacked Chief Rum and Autumn which is exactly where I would expect Fonti to go with her kills. The team with Britrock took out Jag. That's exactly where I would expect Britrock to hit on his first night of a kill. So we don't need Jackal to be a wolf to explain Jag being hit. He could still be a wolf but the percentages are a bit lower now.

I'm getting a gut-feeling that Shark is a bad 'un. Well, him and timmae, but timmae's helpfullness to the colony while no guarantee of his allegiance makes me less inclined to vote for him. Bear in mind that my gut-feelings are generally worse than useless.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Shark

yeah that's the thing about timmae. he's been doing a lot of helpful hunting and info providing. I have thought the same thing about him but that's like a paranoid "thinking moves ahead" kind of thought.

timmae 03-02-2015 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005942)
hmmmm "why shoveler's still alive if he's a seer". this is a good point.

Only thing I could come up with was a block last night. The Truth Seekers may not have been able to kill until Thom was put into charge. Then when they first tried they were blocked. Or were there 2 nights after Thom was in Charge? Not sure now..

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005827)
Whaaa? I don't remember that. This game and this thread have gone on too long to keep track of all this stuff.

kind of a lame excuse. don't like this response.

Thomkal 03-02-2015 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005812)
Is everyone agreed that Shoveler is the seer then? What with the Suicane thing and whatnot. Why on Ea ... Mars is he still alive then? OK I can maybe buy Britrock wanting to keep Shoveler alive so he could scan him but shouldn't he have been the first nightkill target?

Unfortunately with everyone knowing that you've scanned Suicane, you're not likely to get much information by sitting on the result Shoveler. Generally it would be the correct play to try and get information but that's not going to happen here.

I'm going to assume that Suicane is villager for my purposes as if he turns up wolf then he's going to get strung up today whatever I say. If that information is forthcoming before about 15:00 EST then I'll switch my order. Otherwise we have a strong motive for keeping Suicane alive as he'll be a cleared villager.

heal Suicane


Thank you for doing this Narcizo-he's not the murderer, but that's all I know about him.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3005829)
I also think it is kind of wonky for Brit to do that vote change just to get scanned. It will take at least a day for him to get scanned(maybe more because there wasn't a seer on the police force at the time). All while getting added pressure on himself. It is just an odd move.

actually that's the only thing really that makes sense for me as to why he did that. it's a little unlike him. he did not have to move his vote to get sal (a nontruthie) killed. maybe he WAS just trying to jump off the LL onto another nontruthie. but the move back to sal confuses me if that's the case.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005830)
Nice work, Narc!

I've had the feeling that GoldenEagle has been on the wrong side the entire game, though maybe only since Thomal assumed power and everything went tits up. He has rubbed me wrong from the start. With his posturing that he is the best at science and engineering while being extremely vague about his computer programming past.

He's also tried to oust me from my position. Why is he going after me the way he is? Why the personal attacks on my character and my position?

I don't like the smell of it and haven't since Day Zero.

Vote GoldenEagle

these are rather strong statements. did he try to get you ousted? I missed that. i know he wanted to impart how strong his skills were.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005845)
You really think that the cunning is going to tie themselves to a wolf so clearly? In a game with two factions so he doesn't even know if DanGarion is going to be nightkilled by the other faction or by the lone killer. If DanGarion is a wolf then as soon as he dies then everyone is going to vote Britrock next time. I'll give you that it looks like a rushed thing so he might have panicked when Grover moved his vote.

If he's voting between two villagers then he can hope to get a scan and if nothing else he gets the benefit of the doubt (from me at least) when Dangarion and Saldana both show up villager. Late vote switching between villagers is generally seen as a villager trait I believe. If someone calls him out on it then his argument is that it would only make sense for him to do that if he and DanGarion are wolves together and we should check DanGarion first.

yeah i guess i'm seeing that. but the panic thing is what i'm seeing as well.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005848)
Oh! People need to stop voting based on whether they feel people have been wanting their job or, basically, because of anything that happened in the first four or five days. That was a different game. We all have our personal victory conditions but I really don't see them as being indicative of wolfishness. Particularly not the Resistance who probably only became "wolves" after Thomkal came to power. So maybe Thomkal is a rejuvenated Nazi general. I don't care. I only care if he is a wolf.

:lol:


Hoooooooooo-gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Thomkal 03-02-2015 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005848)
Oh! People need to stop voting based on whether they feel people have been wanting their job or, basically, because of anything that happened in the first four or five days. That was a different game. We all have our personal victory conditions but I really don't see them as being indicative of wolfishness. Particularly not the Resistance who probably only became "wolves" after Thomkal came to power. So maybe Thomkal is a rejuvenated Nazi general. I don't care. I only care if he is a wolf.

I am not a wolf-just a colonist

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:14 AM
But I do agree about the job thing narc. everyone wanted jobs I think.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3005852)
How does ntn usually play?! I must say I am at a disadvantage (or depending on the game not a disadvantage) as I don't know the styles of any players...

he usually posts just a few posts a day. So you have to examine the quality of those. If you are looking to pressure him you have to do it early in the day so that he'll see it as he rarely returns.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005908)
CF, are you that convinced that GE has nothing to do with the murders? If anyone else is so convinced, I'll unvote him.

well now I'm at a place where it's just the angel of mercy killings that he couldn't have done.

he can still be in the other groups as long as he still has friends around.

Thomkal 03-02-2015 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005865)
So this vote for 2 minutes out. This vote alone would kinda clear dangarion.





Not sure what this says about grover.



This now is FUD but back to dangarion being a definite suspect. THis is at the buzzer.



so that could have been risky if brit was a wolf. brit might not have thought anyone would follow him. If no one did, the move meant nothing. if brit had stayed on saldana and no one moved it still would have been 6-5 at the end with brit being on safe dangarion.

BUT Grover moved and brit moved immediately back.

I think that means something.

vote dangarion

It means I warned brit in chat that I knew dan was not the murderer, and so he moved back to saldana. I should have kicked him off the police force that night, but I had no one to replace hm that I trusted more than him.

timmae 03-02-2015 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005935)
another thought. Are colonists finding traps and setting them? That sounds logical but when would they be able to do that?

The first mention of a trap was when raven talked about his "accident".

Post #1693.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3003325)
Day Four Results
An accident has occurred, Raven has been badly injured in the accident. The accident looks suspicious as the items that fell on him seemed to have been moved.

Post #1775.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3003515)
Fact:
My accident was no accident. It was a deliberately set trap that caused heavy machinery to fall on me.

Opinion:
I'm not sure that it was deliberately set for me. I think I just happened to be the one that stumbled into it. I think there was likely an equal chance that one of the other construction workers could have been injured by it, instead of me.

Also, the murders of Danny and Schmidty seems to be muddling our information, due to their inactivity. I think them being killed simply due to inactivity is something we need to keep in mind, before we assume there are multiple people of interest already.

If I remember correctly, Danny was not a murder, but was injured in the landing crash, and didn't make it (inactivity penalty?). Schmidty on the other hand, was a murder. Is this correct? Should we assume a difference?

Post #2602.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3004928)
Night 7 Results
There has been an accident. Another trap has been set and britrock88 was caught in the trap. He has been injured but it will not affect his actions for day 8.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3005965)
It means I warned brit in chat that I knew dan was not the murderer, and so he moved back to saldana. I should have kicked him off the police force that night, but I had no one to replace hm that I trusted more than him.

huh...so there IS a chatroom open. I was wondering as much.

you told him to move back...very interesting.

Did you guys scan dan or something?

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:26 AM
unvote dangarion

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:27 AM
thom, does this mean you brit and dang are the seekers of truth? :P haha

Thomkal 03-02-2015 11:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005971)
huh...so there IS a chatroom open. I was wondering as much.

you told him to move back...very interesting.

Did you guys scan dan or something?

or something.

Grover 03-02-2015 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005956)
these are rather strong statements. did he try to get you ousted? I missed that. i know he wanted to impart how strong his skills were.

He tried to petition Thomkal to replace me as Engineer with himself.

Thomkal was having none of it however.

GE then went on a mini-rant about everyone being sheep and following groupthink as far as that stuff goes.

I'm still leery about him and his place among us.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005978)
He tried to petition Thomkal to replace me as Engineer with himself.

Thomkal was having none of it however.

GE then went on a mini-rant about everyone being sheep and following groupthink as far as that stuff goes.

I'm still leery about him and his place among us.

I don't disagree with that statement. As far as the jobs went that was definitely happening. I think now that we know there are so many killing groups that's probably why. People didn't want to make waves and went along with the movements.

Grover 03-02-2015 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005979)
I don't disagree with that statement. As far as the jobs went that was definitely happening. I think now that we know there are so many killing groups that's probably why. People didn't want to make waves and went along with the movements.

But how much of these multiple factions is a result of font losing out on leadership and marshal law being declared with Thomkal's rise to power.

I don't disagree with it either. I definitely was one who got great benefit from it. But I believe in my engineering ability and in my ability to help this colony survive and prosper.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005982)
But how much of these multiple factions is a result of font losing out on leadership and marshal law being declared with Thomkal's rise to power.

I don't disagree with it either. I definitely was one who got great benefit from it. But I believe in my engineering ability and in my ability to help this colony survive and prosper.

don't know. I don't know if that wouldn't have happened anyway. The martial law voting off people thing. ALtho ef did say at the beginning of the game that the game could go in a number of different directions as to what it was. so maybe only certtain things could trigger the werewolf voting, otherwise other things would happen.

timmae 03-02-2015 12:03 PM
I have to think that Martial Law OR Thom's Reign triggered the Seeker of Truths (werewolf voting).

timmae 03-02-2015 12:04 PM
whom else voted for font when Thom took control?

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3005990)
whom else voted for font when Thom took control?

I was going to go back and check who was constantly pushing for her and following her originally. I did make that statement about people kissing her behind. Maybe that was too harsh but it was totally inline with the lemmingness going on towards her and other job related things.

GoldenEagle 03-02-2015 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005830)
Nice work, Narc!

I've had the feeling that GoldenEagle has been on the wrong side the entire game, though maybe only since Thomal assumed power and everything went tits up. He has rubbed me wrong from the start. With his posturing that he is the best at science and engineering while being extremely vague about his computer programming past.

He's also tried to oust me from my position. Why is he going after me the way he is? Why the personal attacks on my character and my position?

I don't like the smell of it and haven't since Day Zero.

Vote GoldenEagle

I need to get caught up, but you do realize that I duked to a semi-bad guy AND was locked in jail during the last two murders, correct?

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:30 PM
The seekers of truth had a kill on the first night. They killed Jag.

Grover 03-02-2015 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 3006006)
I need to get caught up, but you do realize that I duked to a semi-bad guy AND was locked in jail during the last two murders, correct?

Read further, before criticizing that post, sir.

Raven 03-02-2015 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005935)
another thought. Are colonists finding traps and setting them? That sounds logical but when would they be able to do that?


No clue who is setting the traps or why. The traps aren't enough to kill us - I know how much health it reduces due to the injury I suffered. Though I wonder if physical skill comes into play here and those with less physical skill are hurt more by the trap?

Not even sure the point of the traps, other than to injure us and reduce our health temporarily (thus making us easier to kill?).

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:36 PM
Hey Shoveler you have got a couple more beat ups in. Was there any that acted similarly to when you beat up CF?

timmae 03-02-2015 12:38 PM
Is it a trap during the day and kill at night sequence?

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:41 PM
Are we still thinking that the saboteur is a different person than the Angel of Mercy?

Raven 03-02-2015 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006012)
Is it a trap during the day and kill at night sequence?

I thought my injury was at night. Then had to rest a day to be healed. iirc

Raven 03-02-2015 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006014)
I thought my injury was at night. Then had to rest a day to be healed. iirc

same as Thom is dealing with atm. Injured previous night, now has to rest and heal.

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006012)
Is it a trap during the day and kill at night sequence?


What? The trap has always gone off as the day choices play out I believe. And the night killings are seemingly a different thing. The Angel of Mercy seems to be able to activate their kill during the day.

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:45 PM
So Raven was injured in a trap on day four but wasn't mercy killed. Were your injuries severe Raven?

Raven 03-02-2015 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3006017)
So Raven was injured in a trap on day four but wasn't mercy killed. Were your injuries severe Raven?


I am hesitant to reveal the exact amount of damage, so that the trap setter/killer doesn't gain too much information from 1 single post. I will say that I was injured but only needed 1 day rest/heal to recover.

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3003325)
Day Four Results

You have a new police force as britrock88 and JAG have joined Thomkal.

Grover has help as saldana and GoldenEagle will work with the engineering team.

The Medical Facility has been completed.

You have fixed the communicator.

Chief Rum has been healed.

An accident has occurred, Raven has been badly injured in the accident. The accident looks suspicious as the items that fell on him seemed to have been moved.

CrimsonFox is found nearly conscious, it seems that he was worked over pretty well.

Both Raven and CrimsonFox can post and vote but will not be able to participate in actions for Day 5.

The defensive design for the facilities has been completed, you may now work on this project.

Your scientists have discovered a way to create an offensive capacity for you. Engineers will have the option to create that design.


So here it is. This is the only day we have had a severely injured person and no mercy kill. Based on these results I think it is very likely that either Raven or CF is our original murderer.

CF was beaten up and couldn't perform any actions. Raven could have been injured and wouldn't mercy kill himself.

timmae 03-02-2015 12:53 PM
Remind me (because I am kinda confused right now, I'll admit it).... did we think the stowaway could be the murderer?

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006026)
Remind me (because I am kinda confused right now, I'll admit it).... did we think the stowaway could be the murderer?


People did. I asked why and no one ever told me why that was.

Zinto 03-02-2015 12:57 PM
I should add Day Five is the day when we didn't have a mercy kill.

EagleFan 03-02-2015 01:00 PM
Busy day today, going to start counting up the votes and post a current total.

Grover 03-02-2015 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006026)
Remind me (because I am kinda confused right now, I'll admit it).... did we think the stowaway could be the murderer?

It was discussed early on, but I don't think it's a possibility. Mission Control seemed to state the they didn't know about the stowaway, but knew one of us had psychotic tendencies.

Raven 03-02-2015 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3006023)
So here it is. This is the only day we have had a severely injured person and no mercy kill. Based on these results I think it is very likely that either Raven or CF is our original murderer.

CF was beaten up and couldn't perform any actions. Raven could have been injured and wouldn't mercy kill himself.


False. Danny was injured on day 2 by an accident and not killed until day 4.

Plus, I recall Thom asking someone to guard me that night. Had he not, I may have been killed that night. I don't know if I was actually guarded or not, but the request was made publicly by Thom.


Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3002330)
Day 2 Results

You now have a staffed Scientific Research Center. Narcizo, Sharkn20 and timmae will have options to begin looking into starting Day 3.

Starting Day 3 you will begin to notice the benefits of the biodome as it is now fully functioning.

The Government building is not quite complete due to lack of effort. Three resources will have to work on that day three to complete it to get the benefit.

You find Chief Rum beaten and bruised. He has little memory of what happened but he is in serious condition.

Additionally, there was a bad accident while working on the government building and Danny has been critically injured.

Neither Chief nor Danny can be used for actions in Day 3. They can post and vote.

GoldenEagle 03-02-2015 01:03 PM
FYI I can't vote today because I am in jail. Which by the way, was a bad decision by our leader.

I like the line of thinking that Raven/CF could be the murderer.

I think Thomkal is likely in the resistance.

Raven 03-02-2015 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3003834)
And last night I jailed CrimsonFox-how could I not especially when he claimed to be the stowaway? Not sure what I can do with him in jail yet.

Raven was also guarded last night


Here you go. I was indeed guarded after my injury.

The Jackal 03-02-2015 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3005866)
Thanks Jackal!

We currently have 4 people on biodome as Shark voted to work on it as well... I believe only 3 resources are needed but nor sure exactly what trait is best. Thoughts?

I'd think engineering would be vital since presumably we're just updating system in place instead of building something from scratch.

Zinto 03-02-2015 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006035)
False. Danny was injured on day 2 by an accident and not killed until day 4.

Plus, I recall Thom asking someone to guard me that night. Had he not, I may have been killed that night. I don't know if I was actually guarded or not, but the request was made publicly by Thom.


I was wrong I looked back at the front page(instead of going page by page to find story items) and I was wrong. I thought Schmidty was killed day two followed by Danny on day three but there was an interruption of a day.

I still find it odd that you were the only critically injured person who wasn't mercy killed thus far.

And no one would have been protecting you during the day. I have never played in a game with a day bodyguard.

Zinto 03-02-2015 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006039)
Here you go. I was indeed guarded after my injury.

Yeah during the night. Unfortunately, the mercy killer strikes during the day.

The Jackal 03-02-2015 01:13 PM
I was wondering how the thread advanced so much.. oh CF

EagleFan 03-02-2015 01:14 PM
As Of Post 3052:

Lynch
DanGarion 2 - timmae (2891), ntndeacon (2902)
Sharkn20 2 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952)
Shoveler 1 - Sharkn20 (2896)


Action
Upgrade Biodome 4 - timmae (2899), Grover (2906), Sharkn20 (2929), The Jackal (2951)
Heal Thomkal 1 - ntndeacon (2901)
Heal Suicane75 1 - Narcizo (2931)

EagleFan 03-02-2015 01:17 PM
Added the Tazer description to the Items. It's a defensive personal weapon.

The Jackal 03-02-2015 01:18 PM
Also timmae, I'm not sure if shark intended on working on the biodome or was just voting it as the desired action for the group.

Grover 03-02-2015 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3006045)
Added the Tazer description to the Items. It's a defensive personal weapon.

Don't taze me, bro!

timmae 03-02-2015 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3006047)
Also timmae, I'm not sure if shark intended on working on the biodome or was just voting it as the desired action for the group.

He voted like he wanted to work on the biodome but I am thinking that might not be the case.

Shark... we have 3 on the dome and EF stated we only need 3 resources. Did you want to be the 3rd? If so, I can explore flatlands. Let me know...

Raven 03-02-2015 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3006047)
Also timmae, I'm not sure if shark intended on working on the biodome or was just voting it as the desired action for the group.

But EF said today's vote...
- All votes for action are taken as an action for that player, this is not an overall vote where the highest vote getting wins


So voting for an action today also seems to mean you are performing the job yourself.

The Jackal 03-02-2015 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006056)
But EF said today's vote...
- All votes for action are taken as an action for that player, this is not an overall vote where the highest vote getting wins


So voting for an action today also seems to mean you are performing the job yourself.

Unless you PM him that you aren't planning on working on it, right?

timmae 03-02-2015 01:49 PM
dammit... where's our leader? Anyone? Hello? Mission Control? Blue and Black? Bullets? Pillow? Mars bars?

I almost like safety in numbers so I may just stay on the biodome even if shark doesn't clarify. We'll just get done that much quicker and be able to stare at Phobos and Deimos (Mars' moons).

Raven 03-02-2015 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3006041)
I was wrong I looked back at the front page(instead of going page by page to find story items) and I was wrong. I thought Schmidty was killed day two followed by Danny on day three but there was an interruption of a day.

I still find it odd that you were the only critically injured person who wasn't mercy killed thus far.

And no one would have been protecting you during the day. I have never played in a game with a day bodyguard.


By Mercy kill do you mean Angel of Mercy? I am assuming so.

I do not know why I was not killed. You seem to be correct that the Mercy kills are happening during the day. WHen I mentioned that I was guarded, I knew that would have happened at night, but didn't realize the mercy kills were all days kills.


You are wrong that I am the only person hit by a trap that was not mercy killed.

bitrock, like Danny also seemed to have been hit by a trap and injured. bitrock died 2 days later, but that was not a mercy kill. The mercy kill that day was to fontisian and bitrock got killed by something else.



Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3004928)
Night 7 Results
There has been an accident. Another trap has been set and britrock88 was caught in the trap. He has been injured but it will not affect his actions for day 8.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3005503)
Bloodbath Ensues

Screams are heard. Multiple screams and a major struggle.

In the chaos that follows everyone is scrambling to see what has happened. There is blood everywhere, an incredible struggle must have taken place.

Then the fog in your mind clears and you see the drama which has played out...

fontisian has become a victim of a killer. She has been strangled in her weakened state. There is a note next to her. "Angel of Mercy" It seems the killer has gotten bolder and named himself.

Laying in a puddle of blood you see britrock88. He has been brutally attacked and murdered. What is happening in this colony? Next to his body you see a note "Viva La Resistance...Revenge!!!"


fontisian was a history teacher that was fired for making students pay for better grades. She was your first leader, newly elected member of the police force and now murdered by a psychopath. She was also the leader of The Resistance and had brutal kill abilities (she took someone with her, or her supporter(s) did for her).

britrock88 was a police officer that was suspended for brutality before he joined the colony. He served on the police force while with the colony. He was also a member of the Truth Seekers with cunning ability (he would not scan as a wolf).

Raven 03-02-2015 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3006058)
Unless you PM him that you aren't planning on working on it, right?

correct

Raven 03-02-2015 01:56 PM
noone else has volunteered, so I will go in after the communicator.


action - retrieve communicator

Zinto 03-02-2015 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006066)
By Mercy kill do you mean Angel of Mercy? I am assuming so.

I do not know why I was not killed. You seem to be correct that the Mercy kills are happening during the day. WHen I mentioned that I was guarded, I knew that would have happened at night, but didn't realize the mercy kills were all days kills.


You are wrong that I am the only person hit by a trap that was not mercy killed.

bitrock, like Danny also seemed to have been hit by a trap and injured. bitrock died 2 days later, but that was not a mercy kill. The mercy kill that day was to fontisian and bitrock got killed by something else.


He wasn't injured significantly. It was why I asked how injured you were. He was able to do actions that day. The Angel of Truth is a coward and seems to like to kill those who cannot defend themselves.

Raven 03-02-2015 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3006070)
He wasn't injured significantly. It was why I asked how injured you were. He was able to do actions that day. The Angel of Truth is a coward and seems to like to kill those who cannot defend themselves.

Good point on him not being significantly injured. The rest of us injured by the trap (me, Danny, Thomkal, fontisian) all seem to have had more severe injuries. Maybe bitrock's physical skill limited his injury. And Thomkal obviously was not killed because fontisian was instead.

Thomkal 03-02-2015 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3005989)
I have to think that Martial Law OR Thom's Reign triggered the Seeker of Truths (werewolf voting).

As far as I know she did not know about my Martial Law power because I never brought it up. I have a feeling she did know at some point before because I think that whole thing with not assigning people that one night was done on purpose so I would use Martial Law.

Thomkal 03-02-2015 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3005973)
thom, does this mean you brit and dang are the seekers of truth? :P haha

Very funny :) But you can call me the seeker of WTF is going on in this game I guess.

Thomkal 03-02-2015 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006012)
Is it a trap during the day and kill at night sequence?

That's I've been thinking, and if it's true, then the "trapster" could not have explored "yesterday I'n guessing?

Raven 03-02-2015 02:29 PM
I think Zinto and my conversation proved the trap is sprung at night and the Mercy kill is during the day. Don't think that the trap being sprung at night eliminates the possibility that the trapster can't have "regular" night actions though.

Narcizo 03-02-2015 03:01 PM
I'd like to point out a few things
1) my medical skill isn't that great. Someone might want to help out healing Suicane
2) there are still votes on DanGarion and Golden Eagle. I just can't see the cunning even putting himself in the situation where he has to save a fellow wolf. Just bury him and move on. There's just too many ways for DanG to be revealed out for that to be any sort of decent play. Golden can't be the murderer and he duked the leader of the Resistance. Nothing to say he isn't a Truth Seeker but barring any sort of decent evidence voting for him seems not to be optimal.

Narcizo 03-02-2015 03:07 PM
Wolfies waiting to see what Shoveler has to say before voting/making any sort of case against anyone?

Thomkal 03-02-2015 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 3006036)
FYI I can't vote today because I am in jail. Which by the way, was a bad decision by our leader.

I like the line of thinking that Raven/CF could be the murderer.

I think Thomkal is likely in the resistance.

wrong about me. Let's go back to when you duke'd to Font-why her? did you know at that time she was a member/leader of the resistance?

Shoveler 03-02-2015 03:10 PM
So a couple of you have brought up why i am still alive. I have had that same question in mind over the past couple of days. I've got two possible explanations.

1. The Angel of Mercy can't be guaranteed success unless I am injured
or
2. The Angel of Mercy thinks they are shielded due to a previous failed interrogation.

I'm worried that the Angel of Mercy just went to the heat source and had may be more dangerous than they were previously. So I suppose now is the time to be proactive rather than playing the wait and see game.

Vote: CrimsonFox

Grover 03-02-2015 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3006104)
So a couple of you have brought up why i am still alive. I have had that same question in mind over the past couple of days. I've got two possible explanations.

1. The Angel of Mercy can't be guaranteed success unless I am injured
or
2. The Angel of Mercy thinks they are shielded due to a previous failed interrogation.

I'm worried that the Angel of Mercy just went to the heat source and had may be more dangerous than they were previously. So I suppose now is the time to be proactive rather than playing the wait and see game.

Vote: CrimsonFox

Why do you think that they visited the heat source?

Shoveler 03-02-2015 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3006106)
Why do you think that they visited the heat source?

Because he was with the group that went out there. Go back and read the conversations after they got back. I took it as they may have gotten some sort of increase in their abilities.

EagleFan 03-02-2015 03:16 PM
As Of Post 3074:

Lynch
DanGarion 2 - timmae (2891), ntndeacon (2902)
Sharkn20 2 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952)
Shoveler 1 - Sharkn20 (2896)
CrimsonFox 1 - Shoveler (3074)


Action
Upgrade Biodome 4 - timmae (2899), Grover (2906), Sharkn20 (2929), The Jackal (2951)
Heal Thomkal 1 - ntndeacon (2901)
Heal Suicane75 1 - Narcizo (2931)
Enter Original Pod 1 - Raven (3064)

Poli 03-02-2015 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3005494)
What's the sound? You hear something approaching from the distance. It is that feeling of dread. You hear the haunted voice of the legend known as Poli, it echoes in you head... "Oh sh*t...."

I'm pretty sure my name was just used in vain.

GoldenEagle 03-02-2015 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3006103)
wrong about me. Let's go back to when you duke'd to Font-why her? did you know at that time she was a member/leader of the resistance?

I will answer those questions. But first, I think you should explain why you essentially duked my duke.

Grover 03-02-2015 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3006107)
Because he was with the group that went out there. Go back and read the conversations after they got back. I took it as they may have gotten some sort of increase in their abilities.

But who is to say that the murderer actually visited the heat source?

The Jackal 03-02-2015 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poli (Post 3006109)
I'm pretty sure my name was just used in vain.

You probably think this song is about you

The Jackal 03-02-2015 03:24 PM
I'll fully admit that I still don't have a very good grasp of the different groups and who is "bad"

The Jackal 03-02-2015 03:25 PM
Now that the trade deadline has passed I will be able to devote more mental effort

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3006116)
Now that the trade deadline has passed I will be able to devote more mental effort

trade deadline?
items can be traded?

Sharkn20 03-02-2015 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3005826)
I'm reconsidering about Jackal. It looks as though the Fonti-led team whacked Chief Rum and Autumn which is exactly where I would expect Fonti to go with her kills. The team with Britrock took out Jag. That's exactly where I would expect Britrock to hit on his first night of a kill. So we don't need Jackal to be a wolf to explain Jag being hit. He could still be a wolf but the percentages are a bit lower now.

I'm getting a gut-feeling that Shark is a bad 'un. Well, him and timmae, but timmae's helpfullness to the colony while no guarantee of his allegiance makes me less inclined to vote for him. Bear in mind that my gut-feelings are generally worse than useless.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Shark

You are absolutely wrong voting for me... But this is a free planet so whatever

Sharkn20 03-02-2015 03:31 PM
unvote shoveler
Vot dangarion

Just matter of survive man sorry

Shoveler 03-02-2015 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3006112)
But who is to say that the murderer actually visited the heat source?

EF posted that they all returned. If he wasn't with them I would think we would have heard about that by now.

At this point everything I have points at CF. It's not concrete evidence, but we won't know for sure until he's dead.

- He was interrogated and resisted the interrogation
- There was no AoM kill the day/night he was in jail

Could it be a frame job... sure. But I am willing to take that risk.

timmae 03-02-2015 03:31 PM
Hawks did well for themselves.. Removed $3mil by trading Smith. Nice move by Young Bowman!

Sharkn20 03-02-2015 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006051)
He voted like he wanted to work on the biodome but I am thinking that might not be the case.

Shark... we have 3 on the dome and EF stated we only need 3 resources. Did you want to be the 3rd? If so, I can explore flatlands. Let me know...

No problems bro! Go ahead!

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3005966)
The first mention of a trap was when raven talked about his "accident".

Post #1693.

Post #1775.

Post #2602.

yeah raven's account makes sense that he was told details of his accident. Was he the first trapee? he sounds like it so that explains his excitement about it.

Raven 03-02-2015 03:37 PM
Let me just highlight some of EF's quotes...
See bolded below...

So bitrock killed Jag, and the groups did not emerge until the change of events triggered them?


Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3004928)
Night 7 Results

A lot has happened overnight.

Chief Rum has been found murdered in cold blood. Next to his body lies a note "Viva La Resistance". Chief Rum was an ER nurse who had lost everything to tragedy and volunteered for this mission to get away from it all, ultimately that was achieved.

JAG has been found in a pool of blood. There was a mighty struggle and he fell victim to his attacker. There is a note left with him as well, Seek the Truth. JAG was a high school football coach that was fired because of deflating balls. He joined the mission to start over.

There has been an accident. Another trap has been set and britrock88 was caught in the trap. He has been injured but it will not affect his actions for day 8.

There is a new government structure as Shoveler is now Thomkal's right hand man.

There has been a loss to the police force and to the medical staff. New choices are coming.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3004957)
Need to get some sleep. Will be on in the morning.

With the major changes that took place due to a couple events that triggered the change I guess we can now say to the new players...

Welcome to Werewolf

timmae 03-02-2015 03:38 PM
Can anyone who took the trip to the heat source tell us more about your experience there? Also, why are we risking additional damage to one of us to go back into the pod? Do we think there is more info to gain from mission control?

Grover 03-02-2015 03:38 PM
Danny was the first trapee, but Raven is the first to survive through more than the next day. Well, Thomkal too.

timmae 03-02-2015 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006126)
Let me just highlight some of EF's quotes...
See bolded below...

So bitrock killed Jag, and the groups did not emerge until the change of events triggered them?

Martian law was already declared by then though, right?

See what I did there :)

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3005982)
But how much of these multiple factions is a result of font losing out on leadership and marshal law being declared with Thomkal's rise to power.

I don't disagree with it either. I definitely was one who got great benefit from it. But I believe in my engineering ability and in my ability to help this colony survive and prosper.

I don't think anyone quiestioned you or even had the right to considering your former job. I think you were the major shoe-in based on your previous position.


As far as the multiple faction thing and when it started I have zero clue.
THe resistance indeed SEEMED to have started when martial law started and themewise that makes sense.

The TruthSeeker people, that is another uncracked nut. I don't understand them at all. They could have been around before that and might have been the source of early vote manipulation

The Jackal 03-02-2015 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3006118)
trade deadline?
items can be traded?

NHL trade deadline

Raven 03-02-2015 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3006125)
yeah raven's account makes sense that he was told details of his accident. Was he the first trapee? he sounds like it so that explains his excitement about it.

No i don't think i was the first trapee. I think Danny was. I already mentioned this multiple times.
Again, people that I think have been hit by the trap, according to similar wording when injured: Danny, me, bitrock, Thomkal, fontisian.

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3006131)
Martian law was already declared by then though, right?

See what I did there :)

I did. :) Can you chronicle that? :)

The Jackal 03-02-2015 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkn20 (Post 3006119)
You are absolutely wrong voting for me... But this is a free planet so whatever

Do you want to expand on why a vote for you isn't smart?

CrimsonFox 03-02-2015 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3006134)
No i don't think i was the first trapee. I think Danny was. I already mentioned this multiple times.
Again, people that I think have been hit by the trap, according to similar wording when injured: Danny, me, bitrock, Thomkal, fontisian.

OH MY GOD DUDE STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!


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