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Well Theory 2 is closer to correct I think as I am not a member of the Seekers for sure or any other group that I am aware of. |
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i don't understand this post. narc is also pushing a lot of theories about people. He did say he knew some stuff about people. no idea what. |
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they did? |
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yeah that's the thing about timmae. he's been doing a lot of helpful hunting and info providing. I have thought the same thing about him but that's like a paranoid "thinking moves ahead" kind of thought. |
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Only thing I could come up with was a block last night. The Truth Seekers may not have been able to kill until Thom was put into charge. Then when they first tried they were blocked. Or were there 2 nights after Thom was in Charge? Not sure now.. |
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kind of a lame excuse. don't like this response. |
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Thank you for doing this Narcizo-he's not the murderer, but that's all I know about him. |
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actually that's the only thing really that makes sense for me as to why he did that. it's a little unlike him. he did not have to move his vote to get sal (a nontruthie) killed. maybe he WAS just trying to jump off the LL onto another nontruthie. but the move back to sal confuses me if that's the case. |
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these are rather strong statements. did he try to get you ousted? I missed that. i know he wanted to impart how strong his skills were. |
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yeah i guess i'm seeing that. but the panic thing is what i'm seeing as well. |
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:lol: ![]() Hoooooooooo-gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! |
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I am not a wolf-just a colonist |
But I do agree about the job thing narc. everyone wanted jobs I think.
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he usually posts just a few posts a day. So you have to examine the quality of those. If you are looking to pressure him you have to do it early in the day so that he'll see it as he rarely returns. |
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well now I'm at a place where it's just the angel of mercy killings that he couldn't have done. he can still be in the other groups as long as he still has friends around. |
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It means I warned brit in chat that I knew dan was not the murderer, and so he moved back to saldana. I should have kicked him off the police force that night, but I had no one to replace hm that I trusted more than him. |
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The first mention of a trap was when raven talked about his "accident". Post #1693. Quote:
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huh...so there IS a chatroom open. I was wondering as much. you told him to move back...very interesting. Did you guys scan dan or something? |
unvote dangarion
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thom, does this mean you brit and dang are the seekers of truth? :P haha
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or something. |
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He tried to petition Thomkal to replace me as Engineer with himself. Thomkal was having none of it however. GE then went on a mini-rant about everyone being sheep and following groupthink as far as that stuff goes. I'm still leery about him and his place among us. |
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I don't disagree with that statement. As far as the jobs went that was definitely happening. I think now that we know there are so many killing groups that's probably why. People didn't want to make waves and went along with the movements. |
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But how much of these multiple factions is a result of font losing out on leadership and marshal law being declared with Thomkal's rise to power. I don't disagree with it either. I definitely was one who got great benefit from it. But I believe in my engineering ability and in my ability to help this colony survive and prosper. |
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don't know. I don't know if that wouldn't have happened anyway. The martial law voting off people thing. ALtho ef did say at the beginning of the game that the game could go in a number of different directions as to what it was. so maybe only certtain things could trigger the werewolf voting, otherwise other things would happen. |
I have to think that Martial Law OR Thom's Reign triggered the Seeker of Truths (werewolf voting).
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whom else voted for font when Thom took control?
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I was going to go back and check who was constantly pushing for her and following her originally. I did make that statement about people kissing her behind. Maybe that was too harsh but it was totally inline with the lemmingness going on towards her and other job related things. |
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I need to get caught up, but you do realize that I duked to a semi-bad guy AND was locked in jail during the last two murders, correct? |
The seekers of truth had a kill on the first night. They killed Jag.
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Read further, before criticizing that post, sir. |
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No clue who is setting the traps or why. The traps aren't enough to kill us - I know how much health it reduces due to the injury I suffered. Though I wonder if physical skill comes into play here and those with less physical skill are hurt more by the trap? Not even sure the point of the traps, other than to injure us and reduce our health temporarily (thus making us easier to kill?). |
Hey Shoveler you have got a couple more beat ups in. Was there any that acted similarly to when you beat up CF?
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Is it a trap during the day and kill at night sequence?
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Are we still thinking that the saboteur is a different person than the Angel of Mercy?
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I thought my injury was at night. Then had to rest a day to be healed. iirc |
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same as Thom is dealing with atm. Injured previous night, now has to rest and heal. |
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What? The trap has always gone off as the day choices play out I believe. And the night killings are seemingly a different thing. The Angel of Mercy seems to be able to activate their kill during the day. |
So Raven was injured in a trap on day four but wasn't mercy killed. Were your injuries severe Raven?
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I am hesitant to reveal the exact amount of damage, so that the trap setter/killer doesn't gain too much information from 1 single post. I will say that I was injured but only needed 1 day rest/heal to recover. |
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So here it is. This is the only day we have had a severely injured person and no mercy kill. Based on these results I think it is very likely that either Raven or CF is our original murderer. CF was beaten up and couldn't perform any actions. Raven could have been injured and wouldn't mercy kill himself. |
Remind me (because I am kinda confused right now, I'll admit it).... did we think the stowaway could be the murderer?
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People did. I asked why and no one ever told me why that was. |
I should add Day Five is the day when we didn't have a mercy kill.
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Busy day today, going to start counting up the votes and post a current total.
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It was discussed early on, but I don't think it's a possibility. Mission Control seemed to state the they didn't know about the stowaway, but knew one of us had psychotic tendencies. |
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False. Danny was injured on day 2 by an accident and not killed until day 4. Plus, I recall Thom asking someone to guard me that night. Had he not, I may have been killed that night. I don't know if I was actually guarded or not, but the request was made publicly by Thom. Quote:
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FYI I can't vote today because I am in jail. Which by the way, was a bad decision by our leader.
I like the line of thinking that Raven/CF could be the murderer. I think Thomkal is likely in the resistance. |
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Here you go. I was indeed guarded after my injury. |
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I'd think engineering would be vital since presumably we're just updating system in place instead of building something from scratch. |
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I was wrong I looked back at the front page(instead of going page by page to find story items) and I was wrong. I thought Schmidty was killed day two followed by Danny on day three but there was an interruption of a day. I still find it odd that you were the only critically injured person who wasn't mercy killed thus far. And no one would have been protecting you during the day. I have never played in a game with a day bodyguard. |
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Yeah during the night. Unfortunately, the mercy killer strikes during the day. |
I was wondering how the thread advanced so much.. oh CF
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As Of Post 3052:
Lynch DanGarion 2 - timmae (2891), ntndeacon (2902) Sharkn20 2 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952) Shoveler 1 - Sharkn20 (2896) Action Upgrade Biodome 4 - timmae (2899), Grover (2906), Sharkn20 (2929), The Jackal (2951) Heal Thomkal 1 - ntndeacon (2901) Heal Suicane75 1 - Narcizo (2931) |
Added the Tazer description to the Items. It's a defensive personal weapon.
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Also timmae, I'm not sure if shark intended on working on the biodome or was just voting it as the desired action for the group.
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Don't taze me, bro! |
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He voted like he wanted to work on the biodome but I am thinking that might not be the case. Shark... we have 3 on the dome and EF stated we only need 3 resources. Did you want to be the 3rd? If so, I can explore flatlands. Let me know... |
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But EF said today's vote... - All votes for action are taken as an action for that player, this is not an overall vote where the highest vote getting wins So voting for an action today also seems to mean you are performing the job yourself. |
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Unless you PM him that you aren't planning on working on it, right? |
dammit... where's our leader? Anyone? Hello? Mission Control? Blue and Black? Bullets? Pillow? Mars bars?
I almost like safety in numbers so I may just stay on the biodome even if shark doesn't clarify. We'll just get done that much quicker and be able to stare at Phobos and Deimos (Mars' moons). |
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By Mercy kill do you mean Angel of Mercy? I am assuming so. I do not know why I was not killed. You seem to be correct that the Mercy kills are happening during the day. WHen I mentioned that I was guarded, I knew that would have happened at night, but didn't realize the mercy kills were all days kills. You are wrong that I am the only person hit by a trap that was not mercy killed. bitrock, like Danny also seemed to have been hit by a trap and injured. bitrock died 2 days later, but that was not a mercy kill. The mercy kill that day was to fontisian and bitrock got killed by something else. Quote:
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noone else has volunteered, so I will go in after the communicator.
action - retrieve communicator |
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He wasn't injured significantly. It was why I asked how injured you were. He was able to do actions that day. The Angel of Truth is a coward and seems to like to kill those who cannot defend themselves. |
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Good point on him not being significantly injured. The rest of us injured by the trap (me, Danny, Thomkal, fontisian) all seem to have had more severe injuries. Maybe bitrock's physical skill limited his injury. And Thomkal obviously was not killed because fontisian was instead. |
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As far as I know she did not know about my Martial Law power because I never brought it up. I have a feeling she did know at some point before because I think that whole thing with not assigning people that one night was done on purpose so I would use Martial Law. |
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Very funny :) But you can call me the seeker of WTF is going on in this game I guess. |
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That's I've been thinking, and if it's true, then the "trapster" could not have explored "yesterday I'n guessing? |
I think Zinto and my conversation proved the trap is sprung at night and the Mercy kill is during the day. Don't think that the trap being sprung at night eliminates the possibility that the trapster can't have "regular" night actions though.
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I'd like to point out a few things
1) my medical skill isn't that great. Someone might want to help out healing Suicane 2) there are still votes on DanGarion and Golden Eagle. I just can't see the cunning even putting himself in the situation where he has to save a fellow wolf. Just bury him and move on. There's just too many ways for DanG to be revealed out for that to be any sort of decent play. Golden can't be the murderer and he duked the leader of the Resistance. Nothing to say he isn't a Truth Seeker but barring any sort of decent evidence voting for him seems not to be optimal. |
Wolfies waiting to see what Shoveler has to say before voting/making any sort of case against anyone?
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wrong about me. Let's go back to when you duke'd to Font-why her? did you know at that time she was a member/leader of the resistance? |
So a couple of you have brought up why i am still alive. I have had that same question in mind over the past couple of days. I've got two possible explanations.
1. The Angel of Mercy can't be guaranteed success unless I am injured or 2. The Angel of Mercy thinks they are shielded due to a previous failed interrogation. I'm worried that the Angel of Mercy just went to the heat source and had may be more dangerous than they were previously. So I suppose now is the time to be proactive rather than playing the wait and see game. Vote: CrimsonFox |
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Why do you think that they visited the heat source? |
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Because he was with the group that went out there. Go back and read the conversations after they got back. I took it as they may have gotten some sort of increase in their abilities. |
As Of Post 3074:
Lynch DanGarion 2 - timmae (2891), ntndeacon (2902) Sharkn20 2 - Narcizo (2941), The Jackal (2952) Shoveler 1 - Sharkn20 (2896) CrimsonFox 1 - Shoveler (3074) Action Upgrade Biodome 4 - timmae (2899), Grover (2906), Sharkn20 (2929), The Jackal (2951) Heal Thomkal 1 - ntndeacon (2901) Heal Suicane75 1 - Narcizo (2931) Enter Original Pod 1 - Raven (3064) |
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I'm pretty sure my name was just used in vain. |
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I will answer those questions. But first, I think you should explain why you essentially duked my duke. |
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But who is to say that the murderer actually visited the heat source? |
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You probably think this song is about you |
I'll fully admit that I still don't have a very good grasp of the different groups and who is "bad"
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Now that the trade deadline has passed I will be able to devote more mental effort
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trade deadline? items can be traded? |
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You are absolutely wrong voting for me... But this is a free planet so whatever |
unvote shoveler
Vot dangarion Just matter of survive man sorry |
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EF posted that they all returned. If he wasn't with them I would think we would have heard about that by now. At this point everything I have points at CF. It's not concrete evidence, but we won't know for sure until he's dead. - He was interrogated and resisted the interrogation - There was no AoM kill the day/night he was in jail Could it be a frame job... sure. But I am willing to take that risk. |
Hawks did well for themselves.. Removed $3mil by trading Smith. Nice move by Young Bowman!
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No problems bro! Go ahead! |
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yeah raven's account makes sense that he was told details of his accident. Was he the first trapee? he sounds like it so that explains his excitement about it. |
Let me just highlight some of EF's quotes...
See bolded below... So bitrock killed Jag, and the groups did not emerge until the change of events triggered them? Quote:
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Can anyone who took the trip to the heat source tell us more about your experience there? Also, why are we risking additional damage to one of us to go back into the pod? Do we think there is more info to gain from mission control?
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Danny was the first trapee, but Raven is the first to survive through more than the next day. Well, Thomkal too.
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Martian law was already declared by then though, right? See what I did there :) |
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I don't think anyone quiestioned you or even had the right to considering your former job. I think you were the major shoe-in based on your previous position. As far as the multiple faction thing and when it started I have zero clue. THe resistance indeed SEEMED to have started when martial law started and themewise that makes sense. The TruthSeeker people, that is another uncracked nut. I don't understand them at all. They could have been around before that and might have been the source of early vote manipulation |
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NHL trade deadline |
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No i don't think i was the first trapee. I think Danny was. I already mentioned this multiple times. Again, people that I think have been hit by the trap, according to similar wording when injured: Danny, me, bitrock, Thomkal, fontisian. |
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I did. :) Can you chronicle that? :) |
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Do you want to expand on why a vote for you isn't smart? |
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OH MY GOD DUDE STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! |
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