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Lathum 05-20-2009 06:46 PM

Man, I have this brutal headach from all the reading today. Pain in my temple and nausicious.

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:48 PM

One last time at deadline for reference later in the game, who would your vote be on right now Lathum?

Autumn 05-20-2009 06:51 PM

Clearly the wolves are happy with this result if they're letting it lie. There's quite a few of my trusted people sitting there with wasted votes right now. It makes me rethink quite a few things.

Lathum 05-20-2009 06:51 PM

right now at this second probably you, I don't think Abe is a wolf and no one else is close enough. I don't like Hoops or CR's votes and I think Jackal need closer looking at.

Autumn 05-20-2009 06:54 PM

Wow, this is a disappointing deadline.

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:55 PM

Abe, if I move to save you due to this complete lack of action here who would you be willing to move to that isn't named dubb93?

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2028998)
Wow, this is a disappointing deadline.


's ok. I wasn't a great villager this game, I got overwhelmed by the volume of posts the first three days or so. I didn;t contribute anything outside of my role. Perhaps I misplayed my role, we'll see, won;t we. I thought in a game where we have limited information, getting as much info out there as possible would be a good thing, but I suspect it got me and BK killed instead.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2029001)
Abe, if I move to save you due to this complete lack of action here who would you be willing to move to that isn't named dubb93?


No clue.

Maybe DT? There's a vote there already. Maybe The Jackal? Lot of suspicion there.

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93 (Post 2029001)
Abe, if I move to save you due to this complete lack of action here who would you be willing to move to that isn't named dubb93?


...

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:58 PM

Unvote Abe
Vote Jackal

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:58 PM

I can go Jackal based on voting record, the lack of any movement off you scares me.

Danny 05-20-2009 06:58 PM

As of 2997

1 Hoopsguy - DaddyTorgo (2879)
4 Abe - The Jackal (2853), Dubb (2854), Poli (2913), PackerFanatic (2917)
1 Lathum - Hoopsguy (2866)
1 DaddyTorgo - Saldana (2923)
2 Dubb - Autumn (2941), Abe (2950)
1 Jackal - Chief Rum (2977)

Posted for new page

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 06:59 PM

unvote dubb
vote Jackal


Totally SD

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:59 PM

Unless we get one more I'm moving back.

dubb93 05-20-2009 06:59 PM

...

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:00 PM

time check

Danny 05-20-2009 07:00 PM

1 Hoopsguy - DaddyTorgo (2879)
3 Abe - The Jackal (2853), Poli (2913), PackerFanatic (2917)
1 Lathum - Hoopsguy (2866)
1 DaddyTorgo - Saldana (2923)
1 Dubb - Autumn (2941),
3 Jackal - Chief Rum (2977), Abe and Dubb

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:00 PM

unvote jack
vote abe

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:00 PM

I see DT here, if he doesn't move his vote I will be very suspicous of him

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 07:00 PM

Tie is not the worst thi ng. We get to find out what th eunknown mechanic is, perhaps.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 07:01 PM

Well I have time

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2029021)
Tie is not the worst thi ng. We get to find out what th eunknown mechanic is, perhaps.


I don't know if we can risk a tie, sorry Abe, based on the lack of movement I think I made the wrong call here. I just couldn't see any possible role you could of had.

Danny 05-20-2009 07:01 PM

Deadline

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:01 PM

DT present and sitting with a completely useless vote looks really bad.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 07:02 PM

Goodbye folks!

I get a really, really great Ha-ha! moment in a few minutes, so don;t cry on my behalf!

("Ha-ha" moments are when you're a villager, and no one believes you, but you get that final moment of vindication)

Danny 05-20-2009 07:02 PM

Final Vote Results

1 Hoopsguy - DaddyTorgo (2879)
4 Abe - The Jackal (2853), Poli (2913), PackerFanatic (2917), Dubb (3018)
1 Lathum - Hoopsguy (2866)
1 DaddyTorgo - Saldana (2923)
1 Dubb - Autumn (2941)
2 Jackal - Chief Rum (2977), Abe (3013)

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:02 PM

Damn, dinner kept me out past deadline, I wouldn't have minded being lynched because this has been a poor game for me, I just really hope Abe is a wolf.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 07:03 PM

Okay Danny, let's do it.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:04 PM

Damnit Abe, don't be a villager.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:04 PM

I should just stick with voting for PF because I'm getting this wrong everytime.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 07:04 PM

Come on now Jackal, I gave you the best arguments you have ever heard as to why I'm a villager.

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:05 PM

Everyone who threw their vote away today is now offically on my shit list. It is too late to try and pull this hide your vote bullshit.

Danny 05-20-2009 07:05 PM

Today it is decided that Abe will be the one to leave therapy! There is silence, except for ABe who screams A HA! at the top of his lungs. Abe was the questioner

The Questioner – You like to ask questions. At one point in the game you may ask a yes/no question about one player in order to find out if they are a needie. This includes the Wannabee Therapist.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2029036)
Come on now Jackal, I gave you the best arguments you have ever heard as to why I'm a villager.


I saw the argument about Alan T, it almost persuaded me to move my vote earlier, I was just hoping this lynch would be more clear, it looks like it ended up really spread out.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:06 PM

So he used it on BK, presumably. Sorry Abe.

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2029039)

The Questioner – You like to ask questions. At one point in the game you may ask a yes/no question about one player in order to find out if they are a needie. This includes the Wannabee Therapist.


I don't think I have EVER seen that role. No wonder I completely missed on it. I'm not sure I would have bought that role if you flat out revealed it abe.

Autumn 05-20-2009 07:07 PM

Well, that explains a lot to me.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:08 PM

I think it's very possible there was only one wolf on Abe (knowing I'm not one).

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:08 PM

DT, why no switch at the end there?

Autumn 05-20-2009 07:09 PM

Daddy T definitely gets the hairy eyeball from me now for several reasons.

EagleFan 05-20-2009 07:11 PM

:popcorn:

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:12 PM

someone remind me again why PF has gotten a pass?

Danny 05-20-2009 07:14 PM

I'm going out tonight, so I will keep the standard 1am eastern deadline as I will be back later than that probably.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2029055)
someone remind me again why PF has gotten a pass?


It seems like I've been the only person suggesting voting for him at any point. Hoops has had him trusted because of the vote he put on EF instead of PB on the day of the EF lynch - but in my eyes, PB hadn't voted for EF yet - if I'm a wolf I know EF is going to get at least PB's vote, possibly more, EF is in trouble.. I vote for him. That's how I saw that PF vote.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:17 PM

Besides that, he's just been so completely UTR that people are ignoring him because there have been candidates in the middle of the discussion and the actions.

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:19 PM

I wonder if PF and DT are the last 2 wolves.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:20 PM

It's more likely that we have 3 wolves left, really.

hoopsguy 05-20-2009 07:21 PM

That was disappointing.

So when Lathum is around again tomorrow I would be interested in hearing from people why they disregarded him as a candidate today. I'm not all that interested in hearing right now during the night phase, unless people are extra talkative.

The Jackal 05-20-2009 07:21 PM

If there are 3 left, it's gonna be 6-3 after tonight, if we screw up the next lynch we're pretty much done.

Autumn 05-20-2009 07:22 PM

No pass from me. He's on my current suspect list. Lathum, PF, Poli, Dubb. I think only one of those is probably good, though I'll have to take the night to evaluate DT's actions and see if I was wrong about him.

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2029064)
That was disappointing.

So when Lathum is around again tomorrow I would be interested in hearing from people why they disregarded him as a candidate today. I'm not all that interested in hearing right now during the night phase, unless people are extra talkative.


Your sticking with this, huh?

Despite DT sitting on his hands with a useless vote at the deadline and PF hammering the nail in a villagers coffin?

hoopsguy 05-20-2009 07:25 PM

Autumn, are you "cross-clearing" Jackal/Saldana together based on Jackal's partial reveal and Saldana giving him some backing? If so, is your guess on their semi-shared roles predicated on both of them being villagers?

hoopsguy 05-20-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2029069)
Your sticking with this, huh?

Despite DT sitting on his hands with a useless vote at the deadline and PF hammering the nail in a villagers coffin?


If you are in fact a villager you should be pleased that my pressure is almost for sure keeping you alive through the night.

I agree that DT has been around at a lot of deadlines and doesn't appear to have added a ton of value to the lynch results from a villager perspective. I'll probably take a long look at this tonight.

dubb93 05-20-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2029070)
Autumn, are you "cross-clearing" Jackal/Saldana together based on Jackal's partial reveal and Saldana giving him some backing? If so, is your guess on their semi-shared roles predicated on both of them being villagers?


Is an interesting thought, I thought Jackal made it clear he was not on the same side as the person with the other role he mentioned. If Saldana admitted to being that role I must have missed it.

Autumn 05-20-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2029070)
Autumn, are you "cross-clearing" Jackal/Saldana together based on Jackal's partial reveal and Saldana giving him some backing? If so, is your guess on their semi-shared roles predicated on both of them being villagers?


I think they are both villagers, yes, based on what they said and what I know/guess about their roles.

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2029071)
If you are in fact a villager you should be pleased that my pressure is almost for sure keeping you alive through the night.

.


gimme a break, I don't need you and your misguided theories to keep me alive.

Lathum 05-20-2009 07:51 PM

I am so excited for tonights kill, I mean, I don't usually get this excited as a wolf for a kill. Gonna be great, I think we will learn a ton!

Lathum 05-20-2009 08:08 PM


Autumn 05-20-2009 08:12 PM

ooh, this could fill up these dull hours.

Autumn 05-20-2009 08:15 PM


Autumn 05-20-2009 08:15 PM

oops


Lathum 05-20-2009 08:18 PM


Lathum 05-20-2009 08:22 PM


Lathum 05-20-2009 08:24 PM


Autumn 05-20-2009 08:26 PM


Lathum 05-20-2009 08:33 PM


hoopsguy 05-20-2009 08:36 PM


Passacaglia 05-20-2009 08:40 PM

FYI, I don't drink, either -- though I used to.

Passacaglia 05-20-2009 08:40 PM

Just thought I'd share, and I'm too lazy to make an lolcat out of that.

Lathum 05-20-2009 08:42 PM


Poli 05-20-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2028959)
It was a joke, I've never smoked weed either, calm down.

:confused:

I wasn't going to lose sleep over it.

Lathum 05-20-2009 08:49 PM


Alan T 05-20-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2029119)
FYI, I don't drink, either -- though I used to.


Same here for the most part. I did enough drinking in college. These days, maybe once every 4-6 months I'll have a drink if not longer.

claphamsa 05-20-2009 08:56 PM

wow......

Poli 05-20-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2029113)


:thumbsup:

Poli 05-20-2009 08:57 PM

Makes me miss my dog and cat.

claphamsa 05-20-2009 08:57 PM

hell even my cats drink more than pass and alan....

Poli 05-20-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2029068)
No pass from me. He's on my current suspect list. Lathum, PF, Poli, Dubb. I think only one of those is probably good, though I'll have to take the night to evaluate DT's actions and see if I was wrong about him.

I thought you and I were pretty well in tune during this game. I don't know what to think of this.

Poli 05-20-2009 08:59 PM

I've had a beer since the New Year. I won't be upset if that is my last.

Danny 05-20-2009 09:01 PM

Poli, do you not drink because of a bad experience or for personal/spiritual reasons?

Autumn 05-20-2009 09:01 PM

Poli, I have you high on my "voting/actions" trust list. But my list of who the possible Needies could be based on who is left who I don't think I know what they're up to, you're on that list. In other words, I think that list is who could possibly house the Needies at this point, not based on trust but just who is left without a role I can figure out.

Poli 05-20-2009 09:04 PM


moar funny pictures

Poli 05-20-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2029137)
Poli, do you not drink because of a bad experience or for personal/spiritual reasons?

Bad experiences with my parents and family drinking early on. I could not count the amount of times I was asked by a drunken mother or stepfather which one I loved more and who I was going to live with...only to have them forgive and forget themselves the next day. The house torn apart, dishes and windows broken, being treated as a second hand citizen in your own home.

I don't miss any of those things in my life. I understand my experiences with alcohol in my family life aren't necessarily those of the majority, but it most certainly shaped my view.

As I grew older, my stance was easily adapted into my religious views as well.

Poli 05-20-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2029138)
Poli, I have you high on my "voting/actions" trust list. But my list of who the possible Needies could be based on who is left who I don't think I know what they're up to, you're on that list. In other words, I think that list is who could possibly house the Needies at this point, not based on trust but just who is left without a role I can figure out.

Understood.

Poli 05-20-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli (Post 2029145)
Bad experiences with my parents and family drinking early on. I could not count the amount of times I was asked by a drunken mother or stepfather which one I loved more and who I was going to live with...only to have them forgive and forget themselves the next day. The house torn apart, dishes and windows broken, being treated as a second hand citizen in your own home.

I don't miss any of those things in my life. I understand my experiences with alcohol in my family life aren't necessarily those of the majority, but it most certainly shaped my view.

As I grew older, my stance was easily adapted into my religious views as well.


Last note: I don't look down my nose at Lathum or anyone that does drink. I did so, mistakenly, to try and save a marriage that wasn't worth saving. It's your choice.

Okay, besides Lathum, I don't look down my nose at anyone. ;)

Autumn 05-20-2009 09:12 PM


Poli 05-20-2009 09:16 PM


Poli 05-20-2009 09:16 PM

I miss my Snuggle Dog.

Abe Sargent 05-20-2009 09:19 PM

Damn it, would all you bitches grow balls and knock this cutesy wootsy stuff off. Damn!

Poli 05-20-2009 09:22 PM



My kids: Snuggles and Charmin.

Lathum 05-20-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 2029154)
Damn it, would all you bitches grow balls and knock this cutesy wootsy stuff off. Damn!





yes that is my dog

Lathum 05-20-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli (Post 2029158)


My kids: Snuggles and Charmin.


charmin looks pissed

Autumn 05-20-2009 09:28 PM

All right, I'm out probably until night deadline, if I do check back in. Good luck all. Well, not the Needies.

Danny 05-20-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli (Post 2029145)
Bad experiences with my parents and family drinking early on. I could not count the amount of times I was asked by a drunken mother or stepfather which one I loved more and who I was going to live with...only to have them forgive and forget themselves the next day. The house torn apart, dishes and windows broken, being treated as a second hand citizen in your own home.

I don't miss any of those things in my life. I understand my experiences with alcohol in my family life aren't necessarily those of the majority, but it most certainly shaped my view.

As I grew older, my stance was easily adapted into my religious views as well.


Wow, with those experiences, you should feel very good about yourself and the kind of person you turned out to be. I am going to call you Poli the warrior from now on :).

The Jackal 05-20-2009 09:34 PM

wtf happened to this thread

Lathum 05-20-2009 09:35 PM

I started drinking

PackerFanatic 05-20-2009 10:07 PM

Jackal, voting for me constantly wouldn't help your cause either, as you would be losing another good guy. I really couldn't follow along much yesterday, and went with what I thought to be a good vote (obviously, I was wrong) I think I am going to be looking hard at the analysis that Hoops posted yesterday. There is clearly something I am missing...

dubb93 05-20-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2029068)
No pass from me. He's on my current suspect list. Lathum, PF, Poli, Dubb. I think only one of those is probably good, though I'll have to take the night to evaluate DT's actions and see if I was wrong about him.


Just incase I'm the target tonight which I doubt since you are so dead set on lynching me I want to get this out there. I think it is much more likely that one of PF, Lathum, and Poli is a wolf than all of them. I'm guessing one of them and then Hoops/CR at this point. I would be shocked if Lathum is a wolf with those two the way he has been going at it with Hoops.

The Hoops/CR play makes sense when they did it. We have to assume they did it to take the heat off Hoops so he wasn't going to be the lynch, that brings it down to 6/3(it worked). They take their chances today hoping to get through on the reveal/BS again and if it works, which it looks like a good chance right now that it will yet again that brings it down to 4/3. At that point they critisize(sp?) someone during the night phase and the voting is 3/3. I think it was end game strategy and I want this out there incase I am the target tonight.

Autumn 05-20-2009 10:58 PM

But am I right that you don't have any evidence that the Hoops/CR vouch is false?

dubb93 05-20-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2029234)
But am I right that you don't have any evidence that the Hoops/CR vouch is false?


Do you have any evidence that it isn't? Do you have any evidence that I'm a wolf? Are you really the third wolf?


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