This. Thank you.

Every news org should have a live fact checker scrolling during what is sure to be an incredibly misleading address tomorrow.

I really hope the networks don't broadcast it at all. Nothing that hasn't been heard at a rally or read on Twitter. The news channels can cover it (along with fact checkers of course!). If he tries this "national emergency" crap, I hope its followed by Dems lining up to start impeachment proceedings/lawsuits to stop it.

They'll broadcast it and then give the Democrats a chance to respond like they did in 2011.

The fact that he referred to it as a humanitarian and national security crisis worries me he may be nuts enough to try and claim a national emergency and get the funding that way.

This, this is happening. It's going to be this and then lawsuits and a supreme court battle which he'll likely win. Crazy but one step closer to authoritarianism and the GOP losing the mantle on fiscal responsibility.

From what I was reading he would have a difficult time winning. Need to prove there is an actual emergency or invasion, and considering crossing are actually down from prior numbers that may be a difficult task.

What will happen is that it will be bloody meat for his rabid base to claim the Dems are blocking him and its all their fault.

NBC on the debate to show the statement:


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/air...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

Hasn't the last 4 decades been evidence enough?

So Sarah Sanders made a claim that 4000 immigrants had been stopped by Border Patrol at the southern border in the first half of 2018 because they were in the terrorist database, It was actually 6. No not 6000 just 6.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...-first-n955861

And that's actually six names similar enough to the hundreds of thousands on the watch list that they were questioned. Just like Sen. Ted Kennedy was years ago.

dola

From the NYT:


I feel no obligation to understand anyone with this mindset.

Trump's speech should be entertaining (and the talking heads post-mortem even more so). Don't think its going to change many minds but its good to see he is trying a traditional way to build support.

I'll admit, as pissed off as I continue to be, I'm completely exhausted with trump this and trump that. He's an incredible buffoon, a narcissist, a failed dictator, a rich, entitled, playboy-wannabe, willing to say anything to anyone to get what he wants snake oil salesman, who would sell his parents grave sites if he could build a casino to make some money. He's a disrespecting, fuck-up of a human trash pile for a person and he probably should be relegated to Alex Jones old spot on the fringe airways of life. Just how anyone can take him seriously is beyond comprehension, and frankly, I'm just tired of the constant defense that he's the president so we have to respect him and do what he says logic, when he's provided a literal endless sheet of evidence to the contrary. Not only that, but there was a nearly endless sheet prior to the election that this was who he is, and that we had a pretty good guess as to how he would govern. I think when we're at the point of the administration, openly lying, being fact checked, having dumped close to 10,000 lies, big and little, and we still have to keep attacking their credibility to prove them wrong that we're in a very dangerous spot. That kind of defense shows that the administration clearly could attempt to say anything, about anyone, and a large chunk of the population would believe it and go along with it. It's this very type of social psychology that leads to the kinds of ethnic cleansing the world has produced previously. It's a massive test for our current government and checks and balances.

Ocasio-Cortez reminds me of Sarah Palin, another talented young communicator who made a big splash in national politics before having her lack of knowledge painfully exposed. This is a cautionary tale for Ocasio-Cortez. My latest in @PostOpinions: https://t.co/bHmNmcyAD0

— Max Boot (@MaxBoot) January 8, 2019

Establishment white dudes in D.C. spend more time thinking about AOC than I spend thinking about any one thing.

She's an easy link to say that democrats are socialists. Of course they're going to hype her.

Just for shits and giggles I've been checking Fox News homepage everyday since the new Congress. Without fail, EVERY time the headline and first story has involved AOC and/or included her image on a story.

Yeah, I don't understand why some people don't get the GOPs infatuation with her. It's just more fear mongering to rally support and radicalize the base, same shit they've done for decades. Easy target, she's awful.

I'm going to predict Trump will not declare an emergency. He's all bluster, but at heart a coward. I expect he rants a bit and says they will honest to God do it at some point!

According to a BBC report I read today, more terrorists have been stopped on the Canadian border than the Mexican one.

And by stopped we mean, had a name similar enough to the hundreds of thousands on the watch list. I can't imagine if a real terror threat had been stopped at either border that it wouldn't have been publicized.

Shhhh! Don't let Fox News hear you or we will have a Wall at both borders.

Due to some failed redactions in a Manafort filing we learned today that Manafort met with a Russian intelligence operative in 2016 and shared polling data.

I have a feeling this is going to be Trump giving false numbers, insisting not having a wall is a threat to our country, claim he would prefer to do this with bipartisan support, and claim he could do this without democrats so they're simply being obstructionists.

Everyone knows that the Republican party has always loathed obstructionists!

They had Sanders for that. AOC focus just tends to backfire, especially when they focus on things like she danced in a video in high school (*gasp*). You don't go up against a charismatic telegenic young attractive candidate. That's just basics of good PR.

Politicians are idiots on both sides of the pond.

MPs will vote on the Brexit deal soon, and the feeling is it may well fail. The EU have said it cannot be renegotiated.

So it’s prudent right to have plans and protocols in place in case the government deal doesn’t pass?

Our idiot MPs, who are generally against the deal, and mostly against Brexit in general, have just passed a bill limiting the government from spending on such advance planning, to try and prevent a no-deal scenario.

But we are leaving on March 29, so all this does is mean that the chaos they have predicted, which was at least partly scaremongering, is now more likely to happen.

Or maybe they plan to vote for a deal no-one actually wants? Not the EU, not parliament, not Remainers, and not most Brexiteers.

In essence it seems that they have voted for a bill to maximise the chances of chaos, just to be able to say “we told you this would happen”. Fuckwits.

Supreme Court vacates stay of contempt order in the mystery company's contempt case with Mueller. May learn the identity at some point now.

She's a woman and not white.

The emergency powers sets a bad precent but would allow a Democratic President to claim a "health emergency" and enact Medicare for All. Or a "climate emergency" and enact strict regulations and funding toward it.

So maybe he gets his statue but I don't think Republicans will be happy with how this precedent plays out over time.

Hmmmm

And a detail that got cut from our final days story the other day - Manafort sent at least one memo advising Trump to focus on Wi and MI

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 9, 2016

Sanders was also never a democrat.

Are we allowed to say she's kind of hot? I've lost track of where we are as a society on that point.

Or do we need a "Can a U.S. public official be hot?" thread for that?

So how stupid were Manafort's lawyers here or wanted to let others know what Mueller might have on them?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...-kilimnik.html

For some of us it's more of a Venn diagram...

And by my previous comment I mean yes to this.

(If there was any doubt.)

Stay tuned for a commercial for "Trump Tacos" live from the oval office.

The global John Bolton humiliation tour is at least one good thing to come out of the Trump admin.

THE ILLEGALS ARE COMING TO MURDER US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

That was disgusting.

That may have been the most un-compelling 15 minutes of television in my lifetime...on both sides.

And I've watched a fuckton of PBS.

Just another Dumb Day in American History.

Didn’t watch it because it was obvious as to what it would be...a misinformation campaign. Good to hear that his economic advisors still haven’t explained to him that his NAFTA 2.0 deal does not mean Mexico is paying for the wall.

WOrld's Greatest Negotiator

From the NYT:

Trump is particularly unsuited for the presidency because he was born rich, coddled by his dad, and has never learned how actual deal making works. He's always just gotten what he wants by asking for it. Or he makes threats, or stiffs contractors, or declares bankruptcy.

Someone who came through the ranks as a politician or an actual businessman would understand the fundamentals of dealmaking--you give up something they want to get something you want.

So, look at this wall kerfuffle. It was his most visible campaign promise. He wants it (or at least wants to look like he wants it). He's had two years to negotiate with Senate Democrats for it. But he's done nothing to actually try and get the wall built. In any normal political process, he would have come to the table wanting his wall. The Dems would have come with some things they wanted (DACA action, social security stabilization, restricted offshore drilling, etc.). There would have been negotiations, and there would have been a deal. Trump would have gotten a wall; the Dems would have gotten some concessions; and both sides would go back to their voters claiming victory.

But all he's done instead is whine over and over "I want a wall." Just two years of saying he wants it without doing anything to actually try and make it happen.

This makes sense when you understand the man-child that we elected President. That's all he's ever needed to do. When he was two years old and wanted a cup of milk, he cried for it, and his dad fired the maid if she didn't bring it fast enough. When he was twenty-two, he did it the same way, and just took his toys and went home (i.e. declared bankruptcy) when it didn't work. And by the time he was sixty-two, people with sense were wise to his game, so the only people left for him to play with were shady Russian banks. But at no time did he ever feel the consequences of his actions or have to learn how actual grown-up businessmen do deals.

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forrest fires that, with proper Forrest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & money!"


This should be criminal. If he actually does this, and who knows if he can, it will cost lives and property. This is nothing but a gotcha because he wont get his funding. How on earth can people continue to support him?

old norms, we're not doing that anymore

Looking forward to the obvious Forrest Gump memes in 5...4...3...

Run QuikSand, Run!