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cody8200 12-12-2012 08:28 PM

Soon, when it is inevitably made legal nationwide, it won't be an issue anymore and we can tax it properly.

stevew 12-21-2012 04:32 PM

Spoiler


Cool pic that's way too big

Edward64 12-21-2012 08:47 PM

Read the latest Walking Dead version, they killed off 1 major (on the list above) and 1 somewhat major character. Major disappointment and no guarantee the TV series will follow the comic.

stevew 12-21-2012 09:02 PM

If you're speaking about "Lucille" I strongly doubt that happens as well.

stevew 12-23-2012 08:20 PM

Glen Mazarra(sp) out as show runner really has me concerned.

PackerFanatic 12-26-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2760981)
Glen Mazarra(sp) out as show runner really has me concerned.


Agreed. Hope it doesn't have as big of an effect as I am thinking, but it is worrisome.

cadmus2166 12-26-2012 09:05 AM

Yeah, it is a bit worrisome, given AMC's difficulty keeping and working with it's shows behind-the scenes talent, but I'm willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt until they prove they are incapable of making The Walking Dead a good show.

Desnudo 12-26-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2755617)
Maybe I'm the only one who does the "What Ifs" on becoming a drug kingpin? I never actually would, but I get bored a lot. I've always found BB to be entertaining drama fantasy. And funny as hell at times.


Sounds better than it is

http://www.freakonomics.com/books/fr...pts/chapter-3/

spleen1015 01-03-2013 10:21 PM

Recorded the marathon of Season 3 and finished it tonight.

Can't wait for February 10th.

spleen1015 01-04-2013 08:20 AM

Question for those who are into the comics as well...

Are they an on going series or has it ended and I can get the whole thing in a trade paperback?

Honolulu_Blue 01-04-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 2764392)
Question for those who are into the comics as well...

Are they an on going series or has it ended and I can get the whole thing in a trade paperback?


It's still an on-going series.

You can collect in two ways:

1. Trade paperbacks. The 17th trade paperback just came out in early December.

2. The Massive compendiums. I think there may only be 2 of them so far. Probably a cheaper route to go (though I haven't compared costs), but the downside is that you really do have to wait a pretty long time between each publication.

I guess you could buy the first two big compendiums and then start picking up the trade paperbacks from where the 2nd one ended. That could work.

They are incredibly fast reads. There isn't a ton of dialogue and there are many panels that are just zombies and/or desolation.

DanGarion 01-24-2013 01:05 PM

Only a couple weeks away!

cadmus2166 01-24-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion (Post 2774470)
Only a couple weeks away!


I can't wait!!

Honolulu_Blue 01-24-2013 02:41 PM

I believe the timing will work out nicely...

Just as season 3 of "Downton Abbey" is over, my Sunday night viewing will switch back to "The Walking Dead" which will then smoothly transfer over to "Game Of Thrones".

Hopefully the gap between the end of "Game of Thrones" and the last few episodes of "Breaking Bad" won't be too long.

I guess there will be some "True Blood" in there as well, though I don't consider that show to be appointment viewing. I record it and catch it when I can. It's on a lower tier.

stevew 02-07-2013 02:25 AM

New episodes start on Sunday-

According to Feinberg/Sepinwall this season opener is a bit of a "talky" type episode. [bill burr]Oh Jesus[/bill burr]

Anyways, also the Glen Mazzara firing thing is still bizarre, and I gotta wonder what exactly these "creative differences" that lead to the split were. Like if he was attempting to divert from the source material or something.

The first half of this season was really strong. Let's hope that we don't get 8 hours of Andrea being dumb, Merle being Merle and the Governor talking and talking and talking with his dumb fake accent.

Swaggs 02-10-2013 09:22 PM

Not bad -- I thought the end (the vision that Rick saw) was pretty chilling.

JonInMiddleGA 02-10-2013 09:26 PM

That ending earned a "creepiest moment ever" from my son. I won't go quite that far (little girl in pilot still gets that from me) but it's way the hell up there.

I'm seeing some disgruntled chatter online at the moment but honestly, I don't know if I thought this episode could have gone much better. If anything, I was surprised at the intensity in the first half of the episode.

It's a fine line between the worst of the farm & turning it into a non-stop combat festival. I thought they walked that line exceptionally well with the possible exception of a couple of scenes (a Woodbury scene that felt a little forced and the Carol bit, which I think might be some disturbing foreshadowing & was therefore necessary).

stevew 02-10-2013 10:21 PM

More motherfucking Lori. Just great.

stevew 02-10-2013 10:58 PM

Dola-

I'm guessing that the Merle and Daryl Walking Dead game that comes out will feature this time when they are away from the rest of the group maybe?

JonInMiddleGA 02-10-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2782099)
Dola-

I'm guessing that the Merle and Daryl Walking Dead game that comes out will feature this time when they are away from the rest of the group maybe?


My impression from the few screenies I'd seen was that the game was prequel, but you could well be right too.

Radii 02-11-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2782081)
It's a fine line between the worst of the farm & turning it into a non-stop combat festival. I thought they walked that line exceptionally well


+1, really solid episode.

cadmus2166 02-11-2013 10:21 AM

Definitely a solid episode. Rick's meltdown at the end of the episode was well done. Things are setting up nicely for a larger confrontation between Rick's group and the Governor.

Honolulu_Blue 02-11-2013 10:59 AM

I liked it well enough.

I think there needed to be an episode that slowed things down a bit and allowed the characters to react to all of the various traumatic experiences that were suffered over the last few episodes.

I liked the fact, for example, that when Rick, Maggie and Glenn were arguing about what happened and trying to push the pick-up off the road that you always saw zombies shuffling in the background. You also have zombies constantly around the prison. It's a far, far cry from the nearly zombie-free farm house of the second season. The issues that they are dealing with are also much more raw, urgent and grim.

JonInMiddleGA 02-11-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2782257)
I liked the fact, for example, that when Rick, Maggie and Glenn were arguing about what happened and trying to push the pick-up off the road that you always saw zombies shuffling in the background.


My son picked up on that same thing & praised it immediately. I didn't notice until he mentioned it (and then when they turned the shot 90 degrees & you couldn't miss the one just down the gravel road)

cadmus2166 02-11-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2782257)
I liked it well enough.


I liked the fact, for example, that when Rick, Maggie and Glenn were arguing about what happened and trying to push the pick-up off the road that you always saw zombies shuffling in the background. You also have zombies constantly around the prison. It's a far, far cry from the nearly zombie-free farm house of the second season. The issues that they are dealing with are also much more raw, urgent and grim.


I agree, a much more realistic touch to this scene than usual.

JediKooter 02-11-2013 01:05 PM

I'm not sure I'm liking Rick's mental state arc. I'm just not sold on it adding much to the story yet. I will be very disappointed if there's no other payoff than:

Spoiler

JonInMiddleGA 02-11-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2782345)
I'm not sure I'm liking Rick's mental state arc. I'm just not sold on it adding much to the story yet. I will be very disappointed if there's no other payoff than:
Spoiler


I'll tell you what I'm expecting after last night

Spoiler

DanGarion 02-11-2013 03:14 PM

Sunday night’s midseason return of the AMC zombie drama delivered 12.3 million viewers and a 6.1 adults 18-49 rating — its biggest yet in both measurements. Against the Grammys... wow.

stevew 02-11-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2782349)
I'll tell you what I'm expecting after last night

Spoiler


Spoiler


Talking Dead works much better on an hour format. The other format felt like Hardwick spent half the show coming in and out of commercial break. Since the show is not currently filming, they should have cast members on it nearly every week this year. In the fall, nobody was really available, except when they were killed off like T-Dog

Honolulu_Blue 02-11-2013 03:56 PM

One thing I kept thinking when they were showing the scary silhouette of Ghost Lori was, "Wow. Ghost Lori is nowhere near as bone thin as living Lori. The afterlife must agree with her."

So far we've had Rick's psychotic episode with the telephone, him "seeing" Shane during the gunfight and now this. Stable, he is not.

stevew 02-12-2013 10:49 PM

How much is an ad spot on this show vs a normal network one? Anyways it would be nice if they spent some extra money next year and expanded our landscapes vs getting another season on the barn/prison/static landscape. I rewatched "save the last one" the other day and I love that stand alone type setting.

JonInMiddleGA 02-12-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2783150)
How much is an ad spot on this show vs a normal network one? Anyways it would be nice if they spent some extra money next year and expanded our landscapes vs getting another season on the barn/prison/static landscape. I rewatched "save the last one" the other day and I love that stand alone type setting.


From an Adweek article earlier this week
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Marketers who snapped up time on The Walking Dead during the 2012-13 upfront bazaar paid an average unit cost of $245,000 per spot. Last fall, scatter pricing soared to as much as $400,000 per :30

Same article says
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Such is The Walking Dead's stranglehold on young viewers—the median age of the Season 3 premiere was a dewy 31 years—that the show absolutely eclipses its broadcast competition in the 9-10 p.m. slot. Buyers estimate that ABC’s Revenge fetches as much as $160,000 per :30, while CBS’ The Good Wife takes in around $115,000 a pop. Fox’s similarly youth-targeted Family Guy ($275,000) and The Simpsons ($290,000) are the only Sunday night scripted series that give The Walking Dead a run for its money; that said, when Sunday Night Football is in season, it boasts a going rate of around $540,000 per :30.

The Walking Dead Scares Up 12.3 Million Viewers and a 6.1 in the Dollar Demo | Adweek

stevew 02-12-2013 11:09 PM

I'm guessing they sold these episodes at the fall 3rd season rate? I wonder if they will sell the next season at 4-450/30 secs? There's like 30 some spots in an hour right?

stevew 02-12-2013 11:12 PM

Dola-I know selection bias and all that but it sure seems like everyone I encounter watches this show and I can't really recall feeling that before with another show.

chadritt 02-12-2013 11:17 PM

Not that much of a bias, 12 million is HUGE nowadays.

JonInMiddleGA 02-12-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 2783156)
I'm guessing they sold these episodes at the fall 3rd season rate? I wonder if they will sell the next season at 4-450/30 secs? There's like 30 some spots in an hour right?


Hmm ... lemme think. 46 mins of content give/take, so about 14 mins or 28 :30s per hour. Minus a couple of spots that go back to the local cable systems, and maybe 1-2 that AMC keeps for themselves to promo with.

I suspect they'll get around $350k for the upfront, be in the mid/high 400s for scatter (if the ratings hold). Problem is - for smart buyers anyway - is that pricing is based on the series avg rating but the real bangs for that kind of bucks are the premieres & the finales. You're probably overpaying for the rest of the season to get into those.

edit to add: As for the money, I imagine there'll be some profit-taking for the network & some money put aside for the inevitable cast salary bumps that lie ahead. I'd be surprised if any significant amount of it went toward actually increasing the production budget.

JediKooter 02-13-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2782349)
I'll tell you what I'm expecting after last night

Spoiler


Ok weird I missed your post.


So then I must have not been paying attention with a couple of episodes before the break. That means:
Spoiler


Correct if I'm wrong on that though.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2783269)
Correct if I'm wrong on that though.


Sure, but I'll have to spoiler it. I'm pretty sure the confusion lies in how I phrased something without expanding on it properly.

Spoiler

Radii 02-13-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2783269)
So then I must have not been paying attention with a couple of episodes before the break. That means:
Spoiler



Part one of your spoiler... it happened off screen and we just heard the noise so some people wonder if he didn't actually do it.

Swaggs 02-13-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter (Post 2783269)
Ok weird I missed your post.


So then I must have not been paying attention with a couple of episodes before the break. That means:
Spoiler


Correct if I'm wrong on that though.


I think it was left intentionally ambiguous.

Carl fired a shot, but we didn't see where it landed (and Maggie, I believe, was waiting outside for him, so it may have been for her benefit).

When Rick returned, the body was gone.

She was either eaten by fat zombie after Carl shot her or got up on her own (after Carl didn't shoot her)...

I tend to believe Carl shot her, but at this point the TV show has almost completely diverged from the graphic novel, so we will have to see.

JonInMiddleGA 02-13-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 2783280)
Part one of your spoiler... it happened off screen and we just heard the noise so some people wonder if he didn't actually do it.


I was among those people ... except for Kirkman's confirmation of her death

IIRC, there's actually a more forceful statement somewhere about that, to the effect that they were surprised that anyone doubted the death because it never really crossed their minds to do anything other than kill her.

Honolulu_Blue 02-13-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2783281)
I tend to believe Carl shot her, but at this point the TV show has almost completely diverged from the graphic novel, so we will have to see.


I tend to believe Carl shot her too. Based on how he's behaved since then, I think it's true. It would actually be a huge diservice to the character if he ended up not doing it.

I am not sure if we've ever witnesses a more improved character in television history from Season 2 Carl to Season 3 Carl. He went from an annoying little scamp who did stupid stuff for plot devices and whose presence on screen was rarely a good thing to, well, a really compelling character. That little kid's been fantastic.

JediKooter 02-13-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2783278)
Sure, but I'll have to spoiler it. I'm pretty sure the confusion lies in how I phrased something without expanding on it properly.

Spoiler




I really don't know if I should spoiler tag this or not, but, I'll err on the side of caution.

Spoiler



Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs
I think it was left intentionally ambiguous.

Carl fired a shot, but we didn't see where it landed (and Maggie, I believe, was waiting outside for him, so it may have been for her benefit).

When Rick returned, the body was gone.

She was either eaten by fat zombie after Carl shot her or got up on her own (after Carl didn't shoot her)...

I tend to believe Carl shot her, but at this point the TV show has almost completely diverged from the graphic novel, so we will have to see.


I had always thought that Carl did shoot her even though it was off screen. It made me think after reading some posts in here that maybe he didn't shoot her. However in this last episode,
Spoiler


Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii
Part one of your spoiler... it happened off screen and we just heard the noise so some people wonder if he didn't actually do it.


That's what got me thinking after reading some of this thread, since it was off screen, that maybe he really didn't do it. But, I'm firmly back on the side now that he did actually do it.

DanGarion 02-13-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs (Post 2783281)

I tend to believe Carl shot her, but at this point the TV show has almost completely diverged from the graphic novel, so we will have to see.


I agree with you that I think he shot her, and the TV show has diverged, but the one thing I have noticed with the TV show is the writers don't treat us like we are dumb and fuck with our minds that something we expect happened didn't happen.

Thomkal 02-13-2013 08:40 PM

Apparently in Montana, the zombie apocalypse has begun:

KRTV's Emergency Alert System Hacked To Warn Of Fake Zombie Apocalypse (VIDEO)

JonInMiddleGA 02-17-2013 08:38 PM

Heavy.

JonInMiddleGA 02-17-2013 08:51 PM

Followed by damn.

Chief Rum 02-17-2013 09:04 PM

Okay, so I must have missed it. Who drove that van in and what happened to him/her?

JonInMiddleGA 02-17-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2784924)
Okay, so I must have missed it. Who drove that van in and what happened to him/her?


My son said he/she ran out of the gate, I didn't see them either.

My money is on Andrea tbh. They worked too hard to hide the identity, so it's either Andrea or the geek guy.

JonInMiddleGA 02-17-2013 09:07 PM

That finish is probably in the top 3 adrenaline scenes of the show I think. I'm not sure my heart rate ever climbed any higher during a scene.


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